Possibly repeating what someone else has said so apologies. That is the Guards compartment not Controllers, that's an American term. The decorative cloths over the seats are called antimacassar. Macassar was an oil that gentlemen put on their hair so these were to protect the upholstery. People had them on their furniture at home for the same reason back in the day, and also used on the arms of chairs. As an apprentice Vehicle Builder at The Plant Doncaster BREL I worked on many MKI and II coaches and also many Brake Vans. We had the Royal Scotsman coaches in one year and they were something else.
Back in the early 60s greasy hair goo went out of fashion. "Greasy kid stuff" it was called in commercials for Vitalis, as I recall. Nobody uses stuff like Brylcreem anymore.
They're not really called 'cars' in the UK, that's mainly American terminology. They're called coaches or carriages here. And these aren't abandoned, they're up for renovation and sadly if folk get into them and ruin them, then they will indeed become scrap. You were clearly respectful, which is great, but so many others aren't and these things get destroyed or burnt out.
@Ben LawsIndeed. Hence why I said 'not really', as opposed to 'not'. There are some exceptions, but on the whole, they're coaches or carriages. Depends on the type of train.
@@StrathpefferJunction In the UK it's generally loco hauled trailing stock which are known as coaches or carriages, whereas it's the vehicles of self powered multiple unit trains which are known as "cars", especially with urban electric units, like those on the london underground.
For Heaven's sake, people! When he said, " burnt-out car warehouse", he meant the automobile warehouse and garage that had been gutted by a conflagration of flame and 🔥 , that had been documented on the news. The one owned by an automobile dealership.
@@majorpygge-phartt2643 Yes; as you say, London Underground people often shorten the term to ‘car’, as per ‘6 car set’ etc. These days, with modern stock there’s not much difference with so much being ‘self powered’ rather than loco hauled.
these are probably stored here pending restoration, having already been purchased by a heritage railway or railtour company. Great to see no smashed glass or deliberate vandalism/graffiti etc. Thanks for not disclosing the location, as it helps keep the idiots away. That old mk1 First Class coach is in great condition. A cool explore this one, and i enjoyed watching it.
Over 20 years ago, I worked for a railroad in the United States, and we had a great deal of abandoned infrastructure. Mostly buildings, a turntable that actually worked, as well as dormant microwave sites scattered across the line. Looking, I wish I would have taken pictures, as most of it is long gone. Some the newer cars in your video, don't look too terribly old - perhaps 20 or 30-years old. With the mold & bird droppings, a respirator is definitely required. Thanks for taking the video, as it was both entertaining & educational. :)
9711 was moved to Weardale Railway in January 2020, so the Mk2 DBSO has been in this shed a little over a year. It is due for restoration, however like so many projects, covid will have paused these plans - the owners, Crewe Diesel Preservation are planning on refurbishing a full push-pull set in fact. The Inter-City Mk2 M3374 carriage is available to buy as a Hornby model and, I THINK, is owned by Riviera Trains, who of course are also not operating due to covid. Rolling stock storage is often basic but run down, but there nothing here which is abandoned or forgotten in the slightest. My dad is a huge railway geek and I was in sheds worse than this back in the early 80s watching engineering volunteers slowly restore their giant projects.
Shame to see as I am a train enthusiast, the mk2 carriages and mk1 carriages are very much still in use today across a lot of the heritage railways up and down the country, like stepping back in time I so enjoy it, great video as always lads keep up the good work see you in the next one 😀👍
For info - the 'decorative napkins' over the backs of the seats in the first class carriage are actually called antimacassars. They are so placed to try to avoid the seat backs getting 'filthy' from the heads of travellers resting on them.
The cab is a Driving Brake Second Open. This was part of a batch of MK2f carriages converted in 1979 for the Edinburgh to Glasgow service. As this was a back and forth journey it meant that the Locomotive could be controlled and train driven from the opposite end of the rake in one of the 2 directions, normally from Edinburgh to Glasgow. This means that this was not necessary for the Locomotive to run round at one end of the journey and it could operate the service in push-pull mode, saving time in the intensive schedule. A batch of Class 47 locos were converted to be able to run in push-pull mode and reclassified as 47/7. In 1984 when the train was travelling at high speed in push mode and had just passed Polmont, the leading DBSO hit a cow thst had got into the line and due to its relatively light weight, derailed. As the loco continued to push for a few more seconds, the carriages zig-zagged, causing a many fatalities. The DBSOs still in service today are now speed limited as a result.
They worked from London Liverpool Street to Norwich on the Great Eastern main, in recent years, with Class 86 and 90s propelled at speeds of up to 100 mph. Several mods were made since the incident in '84 including snowploughs, added ballast weight and gangway reinforcement to enable 100 mph running. Some were recently in use with DRS and Network Rail.
My old account was on that train,,he changed seats with the man next to him and that man got killed 15 minutes later by being partially flung out a window,my accountant of Muslim faith said the experience changed his life.
Not really as abandoned but more likely stored out of harms way. The blue / greys look to me as being part of a fully restored set that was recently out on the mainline for tours. Let's hope videos like this don't end up giving chance for vandals trashing them.
Sadly they'll crush you to death if you were to crash in one. As nice as a lot of the old carriages were they're literal death traps compared to modern ones.
You have trespassed on our property. Durham Constabulary have been informed. We seem to be missing some items from the old carriage that we had a detailed inventory of. Would you care to explain and contact us in order to assist the Police investigation.
Hi, we don’t take anything from places so these items must have been misplaced. If I remember correctly, there wasn’t much of items to take besides the seat throws, and we don’t have any of them. The police can come to us if they wish, but we predict the lack of ‘no trespass’ signs as well as the buildings disconnection from the rail line would project our infiltration as civil.
@@Urbandoned lack of no trespassing signs don't work mate - Ive used that defence - your local boarded up shop or house for sale doesn't have them, and even if the door window was open - you wouldn't get away with "no trespassing signs were up". But the best way to defend any potential claim in future is to document the point of entry and establish it has been used before, This covers you a little if you get accused of breaking and entering. Be very careful the land/property owner doesn't throw accusations at you like things are missing or things are damaged due to your entry (legal or otherwise) and try to use two cameras as legal back up. In case your wondering I did my first urbex ( it wasn't called that then) a whopping 36/37 years ago in a closed railway station that's now a retail park, so I know what I'm talking about. Good luck from an (almost) retired urbexer 👍
@@Scots_Diesel meh I disagree. Lack of trespass signs prevents a visit from being aggravated, specifically on a damaged building that people are considering to be on a railway with a more serious offence. Inside the building, there are no signs that the tracks connect to active line, with rubble covering the tracks that indicates they have been out of use for a long time. Despite this might not actually being the case, on our initial visit we were under the belief that the trains were vacant, due to their decaying, mouldy, cobweb filled condition, which is what we projected in the video. Time someone has been doing Urbex doesn’t really change much for us, as we’ve been exploring for three years and have experienced pretty much everything, public and private that the hobby has to offer. We are obsessed as one might say.
@@Urbandoned it's not a case of disagreement, any law criminal or civil cannot be defended by the ignorance argument, many have tried it and lost, I nearly got done for breaking and entering a derelict old tramway power station in Kirkcaldy - despite it having various open entry points and no signs, luckily I got away with it at court. They will say you had no just or lawful cause to be in the property therefore you wilfully gained access illegally. And if you say "there's no trespass signs" up they will argue that regardless of signs you should know it's wrong to enter into (differs from onto) private property. On the flip side on commercial property if you got seriously injured, even though you're technically trespassing you, in theory can still sue for damages. I'm trying to cover your ass dude after 37 years urbexing visiting 100s if not 1000s of sites and having worked with some of the UK and Irelands top ubexers I know what's what & a few scars, brushes with police, courts, security, druggies, homeless etc has taught me a lot about urban exploration - keep up the good work and learn from others and yourself. Stay safe P.S how long you been at it as I can give you pointers to a few places.
It's refreshing to see how seating arrangements were under BR .I used to use them from Liverpool lime Street to London and I found them very comfortable. I was more recently on a pendelino and although the London journey was faster I couldn't help but notice the lack of space and cramped aircraft style seating but thay don't half go.
The interior of the older train was delightful! So much space. It shows the creators were considering pleasure over efficiency, which isn't focused on nowadays.
I like old train carriages. I feel like the decor was made to make you feel homely and snug, kind of like a living room on rails. Today's trains feel very sterile and cold in comparison.
English accent but strange American terminology..... "car" - carriage "cabin" - cab "railroad" - railway "fee" - fare "decorative napkins" - err, headreast covers/antimacassars "there wasn't nowhere near as much...."
It's the same as that family guy episode, when Stewie says to Brian about his girlfriend Jillian's voice getting that inflection in her voice, and her voice going up at the end of every senteeence!. I noticed it working in a shop, that so many people now speak with a fake American voice, and cant even form a sentence without using the word like... When students came in to the shop from say London,it would be that stupid gangsta "innit,blud"" accent,or the generic accent, that's now used in every part of the country
For anyone questioning this shed I found where it is and I won't give away its location but all the stock isn't abandoned it is all preserved under a heritage society and this shed connects to a much bigger yard with mainline connection, so without permissions this video is more illegal than you may think
It is abandoned there's hardly any roof above and you can hear all the water coming in, they would have much newer and secured places built to house trains to be worked on, that place is disused for sure. Most of those trains are from British rail era.
@@TheAnonyy it isn't the shed is apart of weardale railway the carriage siding is falling apart but those coaches are mainline ready and are used for rail tours
@@TheAnonyy its not Abandoned, its a fully operational Preserved line, its operated by Volunteers and need the money donated by others to help restore things like it, its the weardale railway
I’m not even 50 and I remember trains having these “private” compartments. All I see now are dens of smoke and a bygone age but that’s how many trains were in the UK up until the 1980s. The Mk2 coach, the one they said wasn’t that interesting, it looks just like the diesel-pulled InterCity trains I remember! This is the age of the train!
I would definitely love to see more vehicle graveyards. I’m a huge car and urbex fanatic, so combining the two worlds is perfect to me. Keep up the videos lad, loving them!
In over 30 yrs on The Railway, that is the first ever Brakevan that I have seen that doesn`t have a Coal Stove in it. It used to be part of my job to prepare those things for going into traffic, including lighting the Fire. Network Rail only Banned them from use not long ago.
I must’ve ridden that green Anglia train hundreds or thousands of times Norwich London Liverpool St in the 90’s/00’s. Great cooked full English breakfast on it.😊
I wouldn't exactly call the weardale railway line a busy live line. Seen as tho it only seems to run every Saturday and sunday of about 8 months of the year apart from the december month when they put the polar express on. Also its a storage shed not abandoned 😢
I don't know for sure, but this rolling stock looks like it's being stored possibly for restoration. Not sure the contributor has got all his facts right?
@@transportacrosstheuk7369 They will most likely be restored for use on heritage railways. However, there are many older vehicles like this still in use on the mainline albeit for rail tours and dining trains.
At 7:50 he says "a brakevan was added to the end of a train as the cars did not have brakes." I knew British Rail did things on the cheap, but not that cheap!. There's not much friction between steel wheels and steel rails - so all trains have brakes on every car/wagon/carriage. Typically they are operated by the release of vacuum in a hose continuous throughout the length of the train.
The Building was originally the Gun Barrel Shed, part of the Wolsingham Iron Works Established in 1864. Gun Barrels for the Royal Navy where cast and machined in the building during World War 1, extended during World War 2 producing Shells & Casings and RMS Titanic's Anchor Head was Cast on Site as their as well. Plans to make the Garde II listed building into a museum for the Weardale Railway have not materialized so far.
Sadly listing buildings seldom seems to help with their preservation as the jobs for the boys shambolic way English heritage is run. Take it from someone who is trying to renovate a Grade 2 listed cottage.
@@PurityVendetta If it’s only grade II you’ll be dealing with the local conservation officer not Historic England (as it is now called). Gaining LBC for even major changes to a grade II building is usually pretty easy, as long as you put the case.
It’s amazing how people think sites are abandoned and trespass on other peoples property. We had a similar situation on the Wirral. People would turn up at a functioning training centre and help themselves to property on the train.
Aviation, especially on the older commercial planes, the wing numbers tell a story of original owners until they are retired. Although today’s and previous videos all good! Keep up the good work!
The Wairarapa line, connecting Wellington NZ, up the Hutt Valley, through the 8.9 Km Rimutaka tunnel and on over the plains to Masterton--about 100 Km all told, uses mainly refurbished and regauged Mk2 carriages with plug doors. There is plenty of bright lighting, personal reading lights, good toilets and a power point for every seat. Roaring along at about 70--85 km/hr...or less.. it is a real cruise of a journey. 100km==100 mins :-)
Love this vid pal! The ‘napkins’ on the headrests/seat backs are called antimacassars. There were designed to protect the seats from chemicals in hair creams back in the day. Just a little fun fact there for ya. Cheers for the vid. Get me fired up to do some urbex myself which I’ve always fancied.
Those weird lace things on the seats bugged me but an older relative told me they are called 'antimacassars' to stop people with greasy hair marking the seats. The things you learn after watching Urbandoned! 😄 The footage kept reminding me of that 2015 werewolves-on-a-train movie 'Howl'. I'd love to see more vehicle/machinery graveyards, your explore of the massive burnt out car warehouse is one of my favourites. Quality stuff.
Your relative is correct. I statrted at Lovers Walk, Brighton as a heavy cleaner in January 1997, and we still used the same name, Although they were paper by then and in the first class compartments of 63 stock only.
Maccasa oil, was a hair oil used from late Victorian until the 1950s to slick down gents hair. Think the way the boys in Grease slick their hair. Anti-maccasas as they became known were common on trains and in homes and are still used, particularly in 1st class
Car 9711 is an old DBSO (driving brake second open) which I recognize from the Norwich to London Liverpool Street line where I worked on the railway for 24yrs. These were withdrawn back in the 00s and were originally pushed pulled with class 86 locos, hence the driver controls at one end. It is still in "Anglia" blue and white livery. I will just add these sets came from Scotland where they were used on push-pull services between Glasgow and Edinburgh with a 47/7 for motive power.
I remember the WCML in 1974, Lodon to Glasgow, fairly sure the locomotive was an 84 in early Electric Blue but not certain, it was all so clean and felt like you were in a rocket, my usual motive power was a 4EPB!
That blue end unit, was used so that they did not have to change ends with the locomotive, they could drive it from either end, two sets come to mind, the gatwick express, and the Edinburgh to Glasgow express, where they were driven from either end for time saving and simplicity,
Great video guys! I guess a facility like this one is not in regular use anymore due to the size of modern trains, as well as the unsafe condition of the structure. Maybe it was built to service steam engines back in the day? Anyway, more videos like this one please. The history of the UK's transport infrastructure is really interesting and not often reported.
Weardale Shed. Not disused. Carriages stored for later restoration. I am sure you could have got permission to enter if you had contacted the Weardale Railway. E3507 is not listed on my register of existing Mk1 & 2 Carriages so now added for future observation.
Was the short vehicle they called an engine in the text in reality is a brake van.?...the wheel is for a manual brake which old time guards applied on non-braked goods trains.
Thank you, that was interesting to see. The cloth on the back of the chairs is called 'Antimacasa' it comes from when Men used an oil in their hair (like Brillcream) called Macasa. It used to stain the back of armchairs at home or when out, so everyone used antimacasa's.
The napkins on the seat backs are called antimaccassars and they are to mop up hair oil. People used to oil their hair.... The red"engine" with the brake wheel is an old guards van that would have been found as last carriage on every train, and which on passenger trains would have accepted bicycles and extra baggage.
Wow what a find bet you never expected that when you stood outside these building. Absolutely love this kind of stuff. Don’t think the building has much time left so is likely to start collapsing on the rolling stock within 😢 Great video guys
Apart from the 'Americanisms' creeping into the English language, was a very interesting video. To be honest they didn't seem that old to me, but I'm one that went to school on a steam train in the late 1950's early 1960's.
The coaches with the long double insulated windows are MK3/4's and the white and maroon coach is a MK1 BR standard, also some hoppers, a fuel tanker, a 20T brake van. Although the MK3's look abandoned, the soft furnishings are easily replaced and being of all galvanised steel and aluminium construction can be brought back to use fairly quickly. MK1's had ash frames as well as asbestos fireproofing which is why many MK1's linger untouched because the asbestos removal is a heinous job to take on. The MK3's were originally designed for the Intercity 125 sets, an interesting side note is Reliant that maker of three wheel vehicles of which I own one, made all the fibreglass under carriage furniture as well as the plastic coach end interiors for British Rail. A lot of heritage railways have gained very cheap MK3's but they don't sit well with steam and not all heritage railways have copious amounts of mainline diesels in their flock so they are warehoused until suitable engines are acquired, also some heritage companies who restore coaches to mainline operation lease them to steam and diesel charter companies who operate railtours but with the baloneyvirus stopping everything, its likely these are mothballed until the plandemic has ended. (I use those terms precisely in that some suggest that those in control held their hand back so their slimy mates could bilk billions out of the taxpayer, the longer the crisis the more billions they can thieve, Covid is a nasty nasty contagion that should have been dealt with far more effectively than the hamfisted bumbleclustery we got from BloJo)
You story is very illuminating, but that was the Original Question. I don’t need a story book resume, being in the Railway Industry for 58 years means I am aware of all you say and perhaps more.
Another so called abandoned place that isn’t, the coaches are stored awaiting restoration , the last thing needed is vandals finding the place , take nothing but photos leave nothing but footprints, hope they end up back on the main line .
That's a guards van with the wheel in that was at the end of the train with a guardsman in the train was at the front pulling the carriages. It shows you the younger generation using the American terms for words that's the one that's the influence from America. Although I do thank you for the footage very interesting and that lovely long old building.
What an absolute gem of a find..so glad to see it preserved like this, to be honest it's the elements that have found it like this..I am glad it is still around to be documented for us to see..love all your videos whether it's old, new or otherwise.
Very cool explore as always. Hopefully some of these will be preserved there is a lot of history inside those walls but with the condition of the roof and dampness it might not last that long.
That is what we noticed - they're at a stage where anything could happen. Their location favours protection but they're condition favours further deterioration and destruction.
I cannot understand what vandals get out of ruining places and totally trashing them? Not either of you though.The maroon and cream carriage reminded me of when I was a student in Glasgow a very, very long time ago. When I went home to Oban at the end of term, the train that I was on, had to travel at some speed, till it got to Craigendoran outside Helensburgh, as the blue electric trains used the same track, and were close behind us, and went to Helensburgh Lower station! One of my friends had her suitcase from the rack above, fall and wallop her on the head! "Those were the days", and it was lovely to see the old carriages. I love your videos, as they often stir my memories. ........old Tich.
Ah yes an Anglia mk2 DVT. I used to see these operate on the London liverpool st to Norwich via Chelmsford with a class 86/87 propelling. Think they were withdrawn around mid 2000s when replaced by the class 90 IC sets
Mk2 DBSO rather than DVT (the mk3 driving vehicles were DVT - which yes you're right, is what caused them to be withdrawn). And pulled/pushed by Class 86 or 90. Class 87s never worked in regular service on Anglia.
What a fab video .....amazing scenes of those lovely period trains and the building. I hope they get restored....especially the early 60s carriages which are like the ones in the Bond film: From Russia with Love!
This is not abandoned, this is evidence of trespass. The camera operator can't be that daft to think those perfectly servicable units were abandoned for years.
Amazing Old Carriage Shed and almost certainly pre-1948 Nationalisation, to "British Railways", Build? Shame it was abandonned, sometime after "Anglia" was added? The "Anglia" DBSO ("Driving Brake Second Open") being the Final(?) addition to the collection, if you can place that time frame? Not sure about the Tanker as I don't know when that Shape appeared, but all the other Rolling Stock was still in use in the Late 1980's. Especially the Brake Van - where the "Guard" sat. Not the "Driver", ya dizzy twonk :) I was based at Carnforth T&RS / C&W / Plant Depot from 81 to 91 and saw all these in use, except for the Mk2 "Anglia" DBSO's, which were converted in the early 80's to work Push-Pull Services between Glasgow Queen Street and Edinburgh Waverley with 12 dedicated Scotrail Class 47/7's (the Micro-Buffet was converted around the same time), and those type of Tank wagons of course. I never saw those. The 1st resident seems to have been the Coach under Canvas / Tarpaulin, with the Mk.1 being the 2nd? Both being Sealed-in, by swiching the Track alongside them, where the 3rd and consecutive vehicles were added. Would seem also, that all the Coaches, apart from the "Anglia" DBSO, are 1st Class, but certainly NOT, the Brake Van. I've travelled in one between Lancaster and Carnforth, on the back of an Empty MGR Coal Train in the 80's, and they are Very Far from comfortable, I can tell ya. lol I would suggest that the whole collection is just that, Someone's "Private Collection" and that all the vehicles were bought from "British Railways" and "British Rail" Surplus? Something likely happened to the Owner, so it was forgotten about? Hell of a Shame, but I'm sure these vehicles can all be recovered from the building and have the Owner's "Intended" Renovations finally done on them? Sorry for the essay, but I envy you guys and this video is Awesome. Many thanks
Better than it being left to rack and ruin though. This way we have all got to take a look at it instead of just a few hoarders. And thankyou, now a few more of us can go take a look as we know where it is with a bit of research on the internet. Just found it myself using the internet.
@@waynesmith4612 Hoarders? You of course know how much attention these need to become serviceable for Main Line use? It isn't hoarding. A train tends to have many pieces of rolling stock. They need many items, especially different types. If you want to see them, go to the Heritage Railways, and pay to see them, which helps the restorations costs to be covered. The DBSO means less run arounds, and no need for loops, and a propelling return journey, with a suitable equipped loco. Bums on seats pays for us all to see them. Private storage should be respected.
@@MAPFWH Yes but right now no-one is seeing them except a select few, not only that if you watch the vlog you will see they are just going to further rack and ruin. Sorry i have seen this to many times, things going to be restored by people who just have no idea or the funds to complete the task. But in fairness to all, yes some preservation groups do a fine job as i'm sure we both know, but i have to ask you in all honesty judging by this vlog this doesn't seem to be the case does it? Lets hope this vlog kick starts the restoration because as i said this place is really easy to find using the internet. Lets hope they get restored before the wrong type of explorers find them. Personally i'm glad these have been brought to light and i do genuinely hope they get fully restored to their former glory, that im certain we can both agree on.
@@MAPFWH By the looks of them coaches work stopped on them long before covid started, judging by their state sometime around the time of the black death.
Ex Foundry this building was used to load castings onto rail cars and not originally a rail repair depot these are awaiting restoration . They form part of a heritage rail line now if you'd looked through the windows and doors you would have seen the shunting line and all the other paraphernalia of the heritage line
06.04 These are 1970s rolling stock. In the late 1970s I did something like 12,000 miles a year using carriages like this. Look at the space with a table at every window and compare it with the trains of today with airplane type seating. I could well have stood at that buffet bar. Thanks for showing.
I think the two Mark 2 coaches are Mk2D.s. These were my favourites as the ride was very good without being spongy, the seats were positioned directly at windows and were low enough not to create a sense of claustrophobia. All carriage design since then has showed declines in comfort, by use of aircraft style high backed seats and partially or fully blocked views of the passing landscape.
Disliked not because they filmed it, but it's opened up to vandals and arsonists, as many have said, coaches and loco stored due to covid lockdown. And some more vulnerable coaches stored away from weather for protection. And most in service condition awaiting reopening of heritage runs and revenue to restore coaches waiting repair.
Clearly not abandoned. The building is a bit dilapidated sure, but those carriages are clearly not abandoned and are being cared for, the "stripped out" one is clearly undergoing restoration. Abandoned coaches do not stay in as good condition as this, even if they are kept under a roof...
Great video of stuff most of us would like see, keep it up guys, especially the industrial sites which I find really intriguing. More vehicle/machinery graveyards ? Yes please 👍
This is the heritage railway that I work at, they are not abandoned at all and its a live, working depot. They hopefully should be restored soon
What heritage?
You sure
Was this place used once as a film set? It looks familiar. PS. You’re not a ghost that don’t know you are dead yet?
that was wy the hearing pros where like new
Sure thing. When will they be ready, 2040?
Possibly repeating what someone else has said so apologies. That is the Guards compartment not Controllers, that's an American term. The decorative cloths over the seats are called antimacassar. Macassar was an oil that gentlemen put on their hair so these were to protect the upholstery. People had them on their furniture at home for the same reason back in the day, and also used on the arms of chairs. As an apprentice Vehicle Builder at The Plant Doncaster BREL I worked on many MKI and II coaches and also many Brake Vans. We had the Royal Scotsman coaches in one year and they were something else.
Back in the early 60s greasy hair goo went out of fashion. "Greasy kid stuff" it was called in commercials for Vitalis, as I recall. Nobody uses stuff like Brylcreem anymore.
Good to hear from someone who knows what they talking about.
My inner train nerd is having a field day with this video.
They're not really called 'cars' in the UK, that's mainly American terminology. They're called coaches or carriages here. And these aren't abandoned, they're up for renovation and sadly if folk get into them and ruin them, then they will indeed become scrap. You were clearly respectful, which is great, but so many others aren't and these things get destroyed or burnt out.
@Ben LawsIndeed. Hence why I said 'not really', as opposed to 'not'. There are some exceptions, but on the whole, they're coaches or carriages. Depends on the type of train.
@@StrathpefferJunction In the UK it's generally loco hauled trailing stock which are known as coaches or carriages, whereas it's the vehicles of self powered multiple unit trains which are known as "cars", especially with urban electric units, like those on the london underground.
For Heaven's sake, people! When he said, " burnt-out car warehouse", he meant the automobile warehouse and garage that had been gutted by a conflagration of flame and 🔥 , that had been documented on the news. The one owned by an automobile dealership.
@@majorpygge-phartt2643 Yes; as you say, London Underground people often shorten the term to ‘car’, as per ‘6 car set’ etc. These days, with modern stock there’s not much difference with so much being ‘self powered’ rather than loco hauled.
Even then, the word passenger is typically used in the American term passenger cars. But we do also say coaches here.
Well i have never seen a set of points inside a shed like this. In fact it looks to be a complete crossover. Amazing.
these are probably stored here pending restoration, having already been purchased by a heritage railway or railtour company. Great to see no smashed glass or deliberate vandalism/graffiti etc. Thanks for not disclosing the location, as it helps keep the idiots away. That old mk1 First Class coach is in great condition. A cool explore this one, and i enjoyed watching it.
Over 20 years ago, I worked for a railroad in the United States, and we had a great deal of abandoned infrastructure. Mostly buildings, a turntable that actually worked, as well as dormant microwave sites scattered across the line. Looking, I wish I would have taken pictures, as most of it is long gone.
Some the newer cars in your video, don't look too terribly old - perhaps 20 or 30-years old. With the mold & bird droppings, a respirator is definitely required. Thanks for taking the video, as it was both entertaining & educational. :)
Reminds me of the old sheds may Dad worked in at Newton Abbot when it was a proper working station back in the late 70s early 80s
Get the jargon right lads !
Carriage/Car = Coach 🤦🏼♂️
Warehouse= Carriage shed or depot 🤦🏼♂️
Controller= Guard 🤦🏼♂️
Train= Loco 🤦🏼♂️
Holding cell ! 🤦🏼♂️ = Guards van !
Jargon busted 👍🏼😉
9711 was moved to Weardale Railway in January 2020, so the Mk2 DBSO has been in this shed a little over a year. It is due for restoration, however like so many projects, covid will have paused these plans - the owners, Crewe Diesel Preservation are planning on refurbishing a full push-pull set in fact. The Inter-City Mk2 M3374 carriage is available to buy as a Hornby model and, I THINK, is owned by Riviera Trains, who of course are also not operating due to covid. Rolling stock storage is often basic but run down, but there nothing here which is abandoned or forgotten in the slightest. My dad is a huge railway geek and I was in sheds worse than this back in the early 80s watching engineering volunteers slowly restore their giant projects.
I'd hoped someone might see this video and snap these carriages up and restore and display them.
@@FlickeringEmber They are stored there waiting their turn, cant restore everything at once.
@@FlickeringEmber hi i agree, what clown put them there in the first place ?
@@petersmith4455
No clowns. The point of this comment is that the building and these coaches are NOT abandoned 🤷♂️
That's good news
Shame to see as I am a train enthusiast, the mk2 carriages and mk1 carriages are very much still in use today across a lot of the heritage railways up and down the country, like stepping back in time I so enjoy it, great video as always lads keep up the good work see you in the next one 😀👍
For info - the 'decorative napkins' over the backs of the seats in the first class carriage are actually called antimacassars. They are so placed to try to avoid the seat backs getting 'filthy' from the heads of travellers resting on them.
Thanks for letting us know!
Yes, I posted that already x
Victorian gentleman used Macassar oil to style and fragrance their hair.
@@Pianoguy32 I mean that was a hundred years before that coach was made
@@noaerrr the headrest covers were around then too. Hence they are called 'antimacassars'
The cab is a Driving Brake Second Open. This was part of a batch of MK2f carriages converted in 1979 for the Edinburgh to Glasgow service. As this was a back and forth journey it meant that the Locomotive could be controlled and train driven from the opposite end of the rake in one of the 2 directions, normally from Edinburgh to Glasgow. This means that this was not necessary for the Locomotive to run round at one end of the journey and it could operate the service in push-pull mode, saving time in the intensive schedule. A batch of Class 47 locos were converted to be able to run in push-pull mode and reclassified as 47/7. In 1984 when the train was travelling at high speed in push mode and had just passed Polmont, the leading DBSO hit a cow thst had got into the line and due to its relatively light weight, derailed. As the loco continued to push for a few more seconds, the carriages zig-zagged, causing a many fatalities. The DBSOs still in service today are now speed limited as a result.
They worked from London Liverpool Street to Norwich on the Great Eastern main, in recent years, with Class 86 and 90s propelled at speeds of up to 100 mph. Several mods were made since the incident in '84 including snowploughs, added ballast weight and gangway reinforcement to enable 100 mph running. Some were recently in use with DRS and Network Rail.
@@kevvynolan8753 Cheers, didn't know that, very interesting. Trying to get an 00 gauge model of one is proving difficult!
@@split_pin don’t think you can get any models, you can get a conversion kit though
@@Bahamas-rd8le Bachmann make an 00 gauge one but its ludicrously expensive.
My old account was on that train,,he changed seats with the man next to him and that man got killed 15 minutes later by being partially flung out a window,my accountant of Muslim faith said the experience changed his life.
Not really as abandoned but more likely stored out of harms way.
The blue / greys look to me as being part of a fully restored set that was recently out on the mainline for tours.
Let's hope videos like this don't end up giving chance for vandals trashing them.
Why is everything so americanised🤷 cool find mind probably grade 2 listed by now
@@deanwilliams5466 they're mk2s E and F types are my guess but they aren't mk3s
I dont think this was made by a rail fan just someone who likes to tresspass into abandoned buildings.
9711 Anglia was actually seen at a scrapyard in 2017, so seeing it here indicates that someone wants to preserve it.
The DBSO seems to be owned by the weardale railway
The interiors of these carriages are in better condition than the current modern day offerings
Much more comfortable as well
Sadly they'll crush you to death if you were to crash in one. As nice as a lot of the old carriages were they're literal death traps compared to modern ones.
@@TalesOfWar true, they used to splinter into a thousand pieces in big accidents.
@@TalesOfWar more chance of getting hit by a train than actually having a crash in one though...
You have trespassed on our property.
Durham Constabulary have been informed.
We seem to be missing some items from the old carriage that we had a detailed inventory of.
Would you care to explain and contact us in order to assist the Police investigation.
Hi, we don’t take anything from places so these items must have been misplaced. If I remember correctly, there wasn’t much of items to take besides the seat throws, and we don’t have any of them. The police can come to us if they wish, but we predict the lack of ‘no trespass’ signs as well as the buildings disconnection from the rail line would project our infiltration as civil.
@@Urbandoned lack of no trespassing signs don't work mate - Ive used that defence - your local boarded up shop or house for sale doesn't have them, and even if the door window was open - you wouldn't get away with "no trespassing signs were up". But the best way to defend any potential claim in future is to document the point of entry and establish it has been used before, This covers you a little if you get accused of breaking and entering.
Be very careful the land/property owner doesn't throw accusations at you like things are missing or things are damaged due to your entry (legal or otherwise) and try to use two cameras as legal back up.
In case your wondering I did my first urbex ( it wasn't called that then) a whopping 36/37 years ago in a closed railway station that's now a retail park, so I know what I'm talking about.
Good luck from an (almost) retired urbexer 👍
@@Scots_Diesel meh I disagree. Lack of trespass signs prevents a visit from being aggravated, specifically on a damaged building that people are considering to be on a railway with a more serious offence. Inside the building, there are no signs that the tracks connect to active line, with rubble covering the tracks that indicates they have been out of use for a long time. Despite this might not actually being the case, on our initial visit we were under the belief that the trains were vacant, due to their decaying, mouldy, cobweb filled condition, which is what we projected in the video. Time someone has been doing Urbex doesn’t really change much for us, as we’ve been exploring for three years and have experienced pretty much everything, public and private that the hobby has to offer. We are obsessed as one might say.
@@Urbandoned it's not a case of disagreement, any law criminal or civil cannot be defended by the ignorance argument, many have tried it and lost, I nearly got done for breaking and entering a derelict old tramway power station in Kirkcaldy - despite it having various open entry points and no signs, luckily I got away with it at court.
They will say you had no just or lawful cause to be in the property therefore you wilfully gained access illegally. And if you say "there's no trespass signs" up they will argue that regardless of signs you should know it's wrong to enter into (differs from onto) private property.
On the flip side on commercial property if you got seriously injured, even though you're technically trespassing you, in theory can still sue for damages.
I'm trying to cover your ass dude after 37 years urbexing visiting 100s if not 1000s of sites and having worked with some of the UK and Irelands top ubexers I know what's what & a few scars, brushes with police, courts, security, druggies, homeless etc has taught me a lot about urban exploration - keep up the good work and learn from others and yourself.
Stay safe
P.S how long you been at it as I can give you pointers to a few places.
It's refreshing to see how seating arrangements were under BR .I used to use them from Liverpool lime Street to London and I found them very comfortable. I was more recently on a pendelino and although the London journey was faster I couldn't help but notice the lack of space and cramped aircraft style seating but thay don't half go.
Most splendid correct!
The interior of the older train was delightful! So much space. It shows the creators were considering pleasure over efficiency, which isn't focused on nowadays.
Great video, but why are you going all American? Railroad, car etc?
I like old train carriages. I feel like the decor was made to make you feel homely and snug, kind of like a living room on rails. Today's trains feel very sterile and cold in comparison.
English accent but strange American terminology.....
"car" - carriage
"cabin" - cab
"railroad" - railway
"fee" - fare
"decorative napkins" - err, headreast covers/antimacassars
"there wasn't nowhere near as much...."
Poor educational standards of English schools im afraid.
It's the same as that family guy episode, when Stewie says to Brian about his girlfriend Jillian's voice getting that inflection in her voice, and her voice going up at the end of every senteeence!.
I noticed it working in a shop, that so many people now speak with a fake American voice, and cant even form a sentence without using the word like...
When students came in to the shop from say London,it would be that stupid gangsta "innit,blud"" accent,or the generic accent, that's now used in every part of the country
@@tonyjones9442 Netflix generation. Linguistic impotence.
By the way, these aren’t abandoned or forgotten. The Mk2 DBSO (9711) belongs to the Crewe Heritage Centre.
Will the Heritage Centre be restoring the carriage?
yeah proberly like 50011 at the heratage centre it got scrapped
If they're owned by crewe Howcome this isn't in crewe?
@@zachbedfordmedia7631 it was moved for resto last year, just before covid.
Isn’t this trespassing as he is on private land
For anyone questioning this shed I found where it is and I won't give away its location but all the stock isn't abandoned it is all preserved under a heritage society and this shed connects to a much bigger yard with mainline connection, so without permissions this video is more illegal than you may think
It is abandoned there's hardly any roof above and you can hear all the water coming in, they would have much newer and secured places built to house trains to be worked on, that place is disused for sure. Most of those trains are from British rail era.
@@TheAnonyy it isn't the shed is apart of weardale railway the carriage siding is falling apart but those coaches are mainline ready and are used for rail tours
@@TheAnonyy its not Abandoned, its a fully operational Preserved line, its operated by Volunteers and need the money donated by others to help restore things like it, its the weardale railway
My family like having meals on vintage lines. They dress up these carriages and it's great.❤️
The first class seating is not private it's just a corridor carriage which were common up until the mid 1970s.
I’m not even 50 and I remember trains having these “private” compartments. All I see now are dens of smoke and a bygone age but that’s how many trains were in the UK up until the 1980s. The Mk2 coach, the one they said wasn’t that interesting, it looks just like the diesel-pulled InterCity trains I remember! This is the age of the train!
It was the genesis of high capacity trains in the UK, the 2+2 seating arrangement.
I've seen this building myself many times, but never ventured in as it's still active, with plans for the rail line attached to be used a lot more
Where is it friend lol
@@PrincepsAve Weardale Railway Wolsingham.
I would definitely love to see more vehicle graveyards. I’m a huge car and urbex fanatic, so combining the two worlds is perfect to me. Keep up the videos lad, loving them!
This isn't a graveyard, more a rather insecure secure store.
Thanks, more to come certainly
ive done a few buddy
In over 30 yrs on The Railway, that is the first ever Brakevan that I have seen that doesn`t have a Coal Stove in it. It used to be part of my job to prepare those things for going into traffic, including lighting the Fire. Network Rail only Banned them from use not long ago.
These coaches definitely in storage as they are in very good condition. Used to look after 1254 20 years ago when it was a cross country vehicle.
I must’ve ridden that green Anglia train hundreds or thousands of times Norwich London Liverpool St in the 90’s/00’s. Great cooked full English breakfast on it.😊
I work at Ecclesbourne valley railway and we have those first class red coaches. Just been refurbished
BertGaming : I was pleased to read your comment !
Love the mk2 coaches. Great find.
Those seats I remember being so much more comfortable than the new trains, even on first-class, they seem thin and flimsy.
This is Madness they all need to get out of there.
Not abandoned, just no-one there when you arrived. It's in use and the carriages are preserved.
These look like stored movie props to me. What do you think viewers?
Nah
@@NinfaCarpentergeorgia198 Definitely not, it's just a maintenance shed of a preserved railway.
I think it used to be a maintenance shed, but is now just a storage shed ... but a crumbling one.
I wouldn't exactly call the weardale railway line a busy live line. Seen as tho it only seems to run every Saturday and sunday of about 8 months of the year apart from the december month when they put the polar express on. Also its a storage shed not abandoned 😢
I don't know for sure, but this rolling stock looks like it's being stored possibly for restoration. Not sure the contributor has got all his facts right?
The ANGLIA one is getting restored, these coaches are just stored there for time being...
The coaches I know won't be coming back into public service as now are extremely outdated
@@transportacrosstheuk7369 They will most likely be restored for use on heritage railways. However, there are many older vehicles like this still in use on the mainline albeit for rail tours and dining trains.
An interesting video, but as a request, can you please get the terminology right?
I'd be interested in seeing more.vehicle graveyards. Interesting way of going back over recent history.
At 7:50 he says "a brakevan was added to the end of a train as the cars did not have brakes." I knew British Rail did things on the cheap, but not that cheap!. There's not much friction between steel wheels and steel rails - so all trains have brakes on every car/wagon/carriage. Typically they are operated by the release of vacuum in a hose continuous throughout the length of the train.
The Building was originally the Gun Barrel Shed, part of the Wolsingham Iron Works Established in 1864. Gun Barrels for the Royal Navy where cast and machined in the building during World War 1, extended during World War 2 producing Shells & Casings and RMS Titanic's Anchor Head was Cast on Site as their as well. Plans to make the Garde II listed building into a museum for the Weardale Railway have not materialized so far.
Sadly listing buildings seldom seems to help with their preservation as the jobs for the boys shambolic way English heritage is run. Take it from someone who is trying to renovate a Grade 2 listed cottage.
Interesting
Thanks for this info, I just watched the video.
@@PurityVendetta If it’s only grade II you’ll be dealing with the local conservation officer not Historic England (as it is now called). Gaining LBC for even major changes to a grade II building is usually pretty easy, as long as you put the case.
It’s amazing how people think sites are abandoned and trespass on other peoples property. We had a similar situation on the Wirral. People would turn up at a functioning training centre and help themselves to property on the train.
Aviation, especially on the older commercial planes, the wing numbers tell a story of original owners until they are retired. Although today’s and previous videos all good! Keep up the good work!
With you on that one 👍
The Wairarapa line, connecting Wellington NZ, up the Hutt Valley, through the 8.9 Km Rimutaka tunnel and on over the plains to Masterton--about 100 Km all told, uses mainly refurbished and regauged Mk2 carriages with plug doors. There is plenty of bright lighting, personal reading lights, good toilets and a power point for every seat. Roaring along at about 70--85 km/hr...or less.. it is a real cruise of a journey. 100km==100 mins :-)
Love this vid pal! The ‘napkins’ on the headrests/seat backs are called antimacassars. There were designed to protect the seats from chemicals in hair creams back in the day. Just a little fun fact there for ya. Cheers for the vid. Get me fired up to do some urbex myself which I’ve always fancied.
Surely this is trespass!
Those weird lace things on the seats bugged me but an older relative told me they are called 'antimacassars' to stop people with greasy hair marking the seats. The things you learn after watching Urbandoned! 😄 The footage kept reminding me of that 2015 werewolves-on-a-train movie 'Howl'. I'd love to see more vehicle/machinery graveyards, your explore of the massive burnt out car warehouse is one of my favourites. Quality stuff.
Your relative is correct. I statrted at Lovers Walk, Brighton as a heavy cleaner in January 1997, and we still used the same name, Although they were paper by then and in the first class compartments of 63 stock only.
Maccasa oil, was a hair oil used from late Victorian until the 1950s to slick down gents hair. Think the way the boys in Grease slick their hair.
Anti-maccasas as they became known were common on trains and in homes and are still used, particularly in 1st class
The days when Brillcreme was used a lot.
@@snowflakemelter1172 Brill Creme! A lit-tle dab'll do ya!
@@snowflakemelter1172 Teddy Boys come to mind. My uncle was one.
Comfortable carriages! built for short and long distance comfort Unlike the trains of today.
Car 9711 is an old DBSO (driving brake second open) which I recognize from the Norwich to London Liverpool Street line where I worked on the railway for 24yrs. These were withdrawn back in the 00s and were originally pushed pulled with class 86 locos, hence the driver controls at one end. It is still in "Anglia" blue and white livery. I will just add these sets came from Scotland where they were used on push-pull services between Glasgow and Edinburgh with a 47/7 for motive power.
DBSO 9711 was originally ex Scotrail. Used between Edinburgh and Glasgow on the push-pulls with a 477 at the other end.
@@rasherpig all DBSOs were originally on the Edinburgh and Glasgow route with 47/7s
@@Trainman10715 Yes. They were all converted in Glasgow for the Push/Pull Edinburgh - Glasgow service
I remember the WCML in 1974, Lodon to Glasgow, fairly sure the locomotive was an 84 in early Electric Blue but not certain, it was all so clean and felt like you were in a rocket, my usual motive power was a 4EPB!
This is amazing! Love this it feels like it has been stuck in time loved the vid keep up the good work!
Much appreciated - thank you for the kind message
That blue end unit, was used so that they did not have to change ends with the locomotive, they could drive it from either end, two sets come to mind, the gatwick express, and the Edinburgh to Glasgow express, where they were driven from either end for time saving and simplicity,
Great video guys! I guess a facility like this one is not in regular use anymore due to the size of modern trains, as well as the unsafe condition of the structure. Maybe it was built to service steam engines back in the day? Anyway, more videos like this one please. The history of the UK's transport infrastructure is really interesting and not often reported.
Weardale Shed. Not disused. Carriages stored for later restoration. I am sure you could have got permission to enter if you had contacted the Weardale Railway.
E3507 is not listed on my register of existing Mk1 & 2 Carriages so now added for future observation.
Was the short vehicle they called an engine in the text in reality is a brake van.?...the wheel is for a manual brake which old time guards applied on non-braked goods trains.
CARRIAGES ON THEIR OWN, put them together to make a train, there's also a 20ton guards van there (my old workplace, I was a Tinsley guard).
Guys, as always an amazing video thank you and stay safe.
Thanks for the support
Simply amazing footage boys
Thank you, that was interesting to see. The cloth on the back of the chairs is called 'Antimacasa' it comes from when Men used an oil in their hair (like Brillcream) called Macasa. It used to stain the back of armchairs at home or when out, so everyone used antimacasa's.
I’m inclined to agree with those who are suggesting that this video might not be too helpful to those trying to restore these carriages.
Not too helpful and totally illegal.
A good insight into how good train travel used to be.
The napkins on the seat backs are called antimaccassars and they are to mop up hair oil. People used to oil their hair....
The red"engine" with the brake wheel is an old guards van that would have been found as last carriage on every train, and which on passenger trains would have accepted bicycles and extra baggage.
I enjoy seeing history before it's lost to the elements like this. it's really sad too seeing it treated like this.
Brilliant love this find
Wow what a find bet you never expected that when you stood outside these building. Absolutely love this kind of stuff.
Don’t think the building has much time left so is likely to start collapsing on the rolling stock within 😢
Great video guys
It's grade 2 listed, the owners want to restore it but need funds first.
Thank you :)
Fantastic find. I have just gotten into the world of urbex here in Spain. Awesome video.
Great info about the place you are exploring very professional :).
We spend a good amount of time trying to learn about the refreshing environments we find ourselves inside, happy that it's noticeable :)
Apart from the 'Americanisms' creeping into the English language, was a very interesting video. To be honest they didn't seem that old to me, but I'm one that went to school on a steam train in the late 1950's early 1960's.
Great to see something a bit different. Look forward to the next video!
Happy you enjoyed it, thank you
I went here a few weeks ago and for anyone that hasn’t been it really is as amazing as it looks.
The coaches with the long double insulated windows are MK3/4's and the white and maroon coach is a MK1 BR standard, also some hoppers, a fuel tanker, a 20T brake van. Although the MK3's look abandoned, the soft furnishings are easily replaced and being of all galvanised steel and aluminium construction can be brought back to use fairly quickly. MK1's had ash frames as well as asbestos fireproofing which is why many MK1's linger untouched because the asbestos removal is a heinous job to take on. The MK3's were originally designed for the Intercity 125 sets, an interesting side note is Reliant that maker of three wheel vehicles of which I own one, made all the fibreglass under carriage furniture as well as the plastic coach end interiors for British Rail. A lot of heritage railways have gained very cheap MK3's but they don't sit well with steam and not all heritage railways have copious amounts of mainline diesels in their flock so they are warehoused until suitable engines are acquired, also some heritage companies who restore coaches to mainline operation lease them to steam and diesel charter companies who operate railtours but with the baloneyvirus stopping everything, its likely these are mothballed until the plandemic has ended. (I use those terms precisely in that some suggest that those in control held their hand back so their slimy mates could bilk billions out of the taxpayer, the longer the crisis the more billions they can thieve, Covid is a nasty nasty contagion that should have been dealt with far more effectively than the hamfisted bumbleclustery we got from BloJo)
Actually they’re MK2 coaches, not MK3 or 4
You story is very illuminating, but that was the Original Question. I don’t need a story book resume, being in the Railway Industry for 58 years means I am aware of all you say and perhaps more.
Giving the bollocks you said in covid, I’d like to see you run a country with the pressure Boris is getting..
Great explore. This isn’t abandoned. Maybe take a little research before posting
BR Mk1 and 2s, they are awaiting removel to Crewe, the building is a gem too.....
Going to Crewe for LSL?
The British Railways Mk. I coaches were built in the '50s.
The decorative napkins you refer to are "antimacassar" and were used to prevent staining of the upholstery from hair products.
Originally Macassar oil in VIctorian times, of course, hence the name.
Last time I saw carriages like the blue ones in service was in the 90's in the greater London area.
Another so called abandoned place that isn’t, the coaches are stored awaiting restoration , the last thing needed is vandals finding the place , take nothing but photos leave nothing but footprints, hope they end up back on the main line .
They wont go back on the mainline bit may go into service for railtours or heritage etc
@@transportacrosstheuk7369 they are going to crew heritage center
@@southwesttransportphotogra554 good to see them getting some.kind of life are they being broken up?
@@steventhornton4716 I think they are being preserved
@@southwesttransportphotogra554 so glad they are being saved
quite the place that one yet soon to fall down by the looks of the gantry supports
You guys are really respectful of these places. I wish all young people were like you.
there mainly British rail mk 3 ( mk 2 dbso basicly a dbso means you can control the locomotive at the front) and mk 1 coaches if you were wondering
That's a guards van with the wheel in that was at the end of the train with a guardsman in the train was at the front pulling the carriages. It shows you the younger generation using the American terms for words that's the one that's the influence from America. Although I do thank you for the footage very interesting and that lovely long old building.
What an absolute gem of a find..so glad to see it preserved like this, to be honest it's the elements that have found it like this..I am glad it is still around to be documented for us to see..love all your videos whether it's old, new or otherwise.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed this feature. The building seems to have been damaged before the trains were placed inside, due to it's former use.
Yeah I would like to see more as I’m a rail fan (fan of trains)
It'll be magnificent to have this place and the trains restored to its former glory.
Very cool explore as always. Hopefully some of these will be preserved there is a lot of history inside those walls but with the condition of the roof and dampness it might not last that long.
That is what we noticed - they're at a stage where anything could happen. Their location favours protection but they're condition favours further deterioration and destruction.
I cannot understand what vandals get out of ruining places and totally trashing them? Not either of you though.The maroon and cream carriage reminded me of when I was a student in Glasgow a very, very long time ago. When I went home to Oban at the end of term, the train that I was on, had to travel at some speed, till it got to Craigendoran outside Helensburgh, as the blue electric trains used the same track, and were close behind us, and went to Helensburgh Lower station! One of my friends had her suitcase from the rack above, fall and wallop her on the head! "Those were the days", and it was lovely to see the old carriages. I love your videos, as they often stir my memories. ........old Tich.
Ah yes an Anglia mk2 DVT. I used to see these operate on the London liverpool st to Norwich via Chelmsford with a class 86/87 propelling. Think they were withdrawn around mid 2000s when replaced by the class 90 IC sets
Mk2 DBSO rather than DVT (the mk3 driving vehicles were DVT - which yes you're right, is what caused them to be withdrawn).
And pulled/pushed by Class 86 or 90.
Class 87s never worked in regular service on Anglia.
What a fab video .....amazing scenes of those lovely period trains and the building. I hope they get restored....especially the early 60s carriages which are like the ones in the Bond film: From Russia with Love!
This is not abandoned, this is evidence of trespass. The camera operator can't be that daft to think those perfectly servicable units were abandoned for years.
Amazing Old Carriage Shed and almost certainly pre-1948 Nationalisation, to "British Railways", Build? Shame it was abandonned, sometime after "Anglia" was added? The "Anglia" DBSO ("Driving Brake Second Open") being the Final(?) addition to the collection, if you can place that time frame? Not sure about the Tanker as I don't know when that Shape appeared, but all the other Rolling Stock was still in use in the Late 1980's. Especially the Brake Van - where the "Guard" sat. Not the "Driver", ya dizzy twonk :) I was based at Carnforth T&RS / C&W / Plant Depot from 81 to 91 and saw all these in use, except for the Mk2 "Anglia" DBSO's, which were converted in the early 80's to work Push-Pull Services between Glasgow Queen Street and Edinburgh Waverley with 12 dedicated Scotrail Class 47/7's (the Micro-Buffet was converted around the same time), and those type of Tank wagons of course. I never saw those.
The 1st resident seems to have been the Coach under Canvas / Tarpaulin, with the Mk.1 being the 2nd? Both being Sealed-in, by swiching the Track alongside them, where the 3rd and consecutive vehicles were added. Would seem also, that all the Coaches, apart from the "Anglia" DBSO, are 1st Class, but certainly NOT, the Brake Van. I've travelled in one between Lancaster and Carnforth, on the back of an Empty MGR Coal Train in the 80's, and they are Very Far from comfortable, I can tell ya. lol
I would suggest that the whole collection is just that, Someone's "Private Collection" and that all the vehicles were bought from "British Railways" and "British Rail" Surplus?
Something likely happened to the Owner, so it was forgotten about? Hell of a Shame, but I'm sure these vehicles can all be recovered from the building and have the Owner's "Intended" Renovations finally done on them?
Sorry for the essay, but I envy you guys and this video is Awesome.
Many thanks
This is a Heritage Railway depot and technically you are trespassing , it's not abandoned and now you've possibly opened up the place to vandalism .
Better than it being left to rack and ruin though. This way we have all got to take a look at it instead of just a few hoarders. And thankyou, now a few more of us can go take a look as we know where it is with a bit of research on the internet. Just found it myself using the internet.
@@waynesmith4612 Hoarders? You of course know how much attention these need to become serviceable for Main Line use? It isn't hoarding. A train tends to have many pieces of rolling stock. They need many items, especially different types. If you want to see them, go to the Heritage Railways, and pay to see them, which helps the restorations costs to be covered. The DBSO means less run arounds, and no need for loops, and a propelling return journey, with a suitable equipped loco. Bums on seats pays for us all to see them. Private storage should be respected.
@@MAPFWH Yes but right now no-one is seeing them except a select few, not only that if you watch the vlog you will see they are just going to further rack and ruin. Sorry i have seen this to many times, things going to be restored by people who just have no idea or the funds to complete the task.
But in fairness to all, yes some preservation groups do a fine job as i'm sure we both know, but i have to ask you in all honesty judging by this vlog this doesn't seem to be the case does it? Lets hope this vlog kick starts the restoration because as i said this place is really easy to find using the internet. Lets hope they get restored before the wrong type of explorers find them. Personally i'm glad these have been brought to light and i do genuinely hope they get fully restored to their former glory, that im certain we can both agree on.
@@waynesmith4612 We're in a Pandemic lockdown situation. Maybe the last twelve months or so have meant that work stopped.
@@MAPFWH By the looks of them coaches work stopped on them long before covid started, judging by their state sometime around the time of the black death.
these aren’t abandoned they were sold to heritage railways. British railway would of scrapped them if not
Thanks for this great explore I loved it 100%👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
No problem, thankful that you liked it
Ex Foundry this building was used to load castings onto rail cars and not originally a rail repair depot these are awaiting restoration . They form part of a heritage rail line now if you'd looked through the windows and doors you would have seen the shunting line and all the other paraphernalia of the heritage line
Fascinating to see but sad these have been left to decay considering there is many train fans out there. Thank you for the tour.
It is such a shame, your welcome
06.04 These are 1970s rolling stock. In the late 1970s I did something like 12,000 miles a year using carriages like this. Look at the space with a table at every window and compare it with the trains of today with airplane type seating. I could well have stood at that buffet bar. Thanks for showing.
I think the two Mark 2 coaches are Mk2D.s. These were my favourites as the ride was very good without being spongy, the seats were positioned directly at windows and were low enough not to create a sense of claustrophobia. All carriage design since then has showed declines in comfort, by use of aircraft style high backed seats and partially or fully blocked views of the passing landscape.
Yes, the later MK2s were the best!
What a find! Looks so untouched, no vandalism, just decay.
The place isnt actually abandoned, the building itself is clearly in a state of decay but a few of the carriages inside are owned by a heritage
Disliked not because they filmed it, but it's opened up to vandals and arsonists, as many have said, coaches and loco stored due to covid lockdown. And some more vulnerable coaches stored away from weather for protection. And most in service condition awaiting reopening of heritage runs and revenue to restore coaches waiting repair.
Clearly not abandoned. The building is a bit dilapidated sure, but those carriages are clearly not abandoned and are being cared for, the "stripped out" one is clearly undergoing restoration. Abandoned coaches do not stay in as good condition as this, even if they are kept under a roof...
Great video of stuff most of us would like see, keep it up guys, especially the industrial sites which I find really intriguing. More vehicle/machinery graveyards ? Yes please 👍
Yes I would like to see more vehicle graveyard because they are basically vehicles stuck in time