Violent unrest, state of emergency as New Caledonia independentists accuse France of recolonization

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  • France ordered troops to guard ports and the international airport in its Pacific territory of New Caledonia as a state of emergency started Thursday after two nights of riots left four dead and hundreds wounded. Turmoil erupted after France's national assembly backed hotly-disputed changes to voting rolls that indigenous Kanak leaders say will dilute their vote. FRANCE 24's Mark Owen is joined by Mikaa Blugeon-Mered, adjunct lecturer on French Overseas Territories' Geopolitics at Sciences Po.
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  • @marykinuthia6067
    @marykinuthia6067 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Get out of the colonies 😢😢😢.

  • @AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv
    @AnthonyCarroll-ue3uv หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Overseas territory always seemed like a contradiction to me.

  • @quinnnewman9538
    @quinnnewman9538 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I support independence for the island but everyone on the island should have a democratic right to vote

    • @QueenetBowie
      @QueenetBowie หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      If it was given as a choice to islanders twice in the last 5 years and both times the majority voted not to go independent, it makes sense to keep them as part of France. I’d the majority voted for secession then sure, but democratically it seems like the majority of the island doesn’t want to leave.

    • @questionmore4675
      @questionmore4675 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      you are lying,you mean any tourist visiting America should have the right to vote?

    • @barriekerr3273
      @barriekerr3273 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      First, if there was a vote on the subject of decolonization, it should have been limited to 40% of the descendants of the original inhabitants; these individuals should have the only say, not the descendants of the settlers. Imagine if the Israeli settlers in occupied Palestinian territory were asked to vote on whether or not to keep the land as property of the Palestinians-it's about as legitimate, only in terms of New Caledonia, as the subject here is intergenerational.

    • @chisomahamba379
      @chisomahamba379 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why would everyone in the island vote 🤔, only the indigenous people of Caledonia got to vote in their own country’s election and not the colonizers living their, what did you think colonizers will vote, they will start to creat all kinds of laws to vote on and then pump all the white French from France to Caledonia and they steal Caledonia and start taking their lands and killing them like Britain stoled Australia aboriginals, do you have sense at all 🤔.

    • @covfefe1787
      @covfefe1787 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@barriekerr3273 not if the majority of white people in New Caledoni have lived there for 100 years or more. New arrivals are not from France but come from neighboring island country who make up 40% of the population only 10% of the island have been born in Metro France and not all of them are white french there is a Algerian muslim population too.

  • @2msvalkyrie529
    @2msvalkyrie529 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Victimhood has discovered a new client base.!!

  • @CNinnovations
    @CNinnovations หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Indépendance Now

    • @NickolayEl
      @NickolayEl หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And what's the plan post-independence? Bend the knee to the highest bidder? Looking at the map its not hard to guess who it would be...

    • @iABY2959
      @iABY2959 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@NickolayEltell us who?

    • @Tribuneoftheplebs
      @Tribuneoftheplebs หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@iABY2959 China. And it's not happening. The West will not allow Chinese military to station there

  • @ModernAffairs.
    @ModernAffairs. หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Please dont kill the resistance everyone has a right to have their forgotten homeland back from Colonialism. Viva la revolutions

  • @fleurelise997
    @fleurelise997 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do New Caledonians have any say in Fr political affairs? No? Then let the people have their independence. Stop pretending this whole voting referendum is not about France still obtaining the country's nickel revenue.

  • @NANIKTV-my8in
    @NANIKTV-my8in หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Give them independence. All other pacific Islands are independent countries. Why is French still the colonial power??? In the 21st century??

    • @Ggnmgjhg
      @Ggnmgjhg หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Because the new Caledonians are educated and smart enough to know that ANYTHING is better than becoming American or Chinese

    • @frankyyaggabot6222
      @frankyyaggabot6222 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Had three referendums to date and they said they wanted to remain with France. But I guess you speak for them!

    • @milibibi2152
      @milibibi2152 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@frankyyaggabot6222no they did not, settlers say no to independance...of course...

    • @jaystrickland4151
      @jaystrickland4151 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The people voted to remain a part of France. The independence movement is a violent minority.

    • @jamesgo2014
      @jamesgo2014 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Ggnmgjhgnew Caledonians? Are they the native?

  • @ThatFijianGuy
    @ThatFijianGuy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    France GET OUT OF THE PACIFIC!!

    • @hans-dieterjung4026
      @hans-dieterjung4026 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      US, UK and EU go Home and stay Home !!!!
      US and EU geht nach Hause und bleibt zu Hause

  • @CalumLogan
    @CalumLogan หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Get up ! Stand up ! People of the world ...

  • @PurestBollocks
    @PurestBollocks หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great analysis.

  • @youtubeuserzzzz
    @youtubeuserzzzz หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Get out France! Can people in French Guiana, French Polynesia or even New Caledonia, vote in regional France affairs? Get out France. Metropolitan France has so many problems of its own.

    • @ZoomZoomMX3
      @ZoomZoomMX3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The price of gasoline, good, health care would all go through the roof including schooling.
      A tiny island is like northern Canada without being inside the bigger group you will pay far more for everything.
      What rights are suppressed? Marrying younger girls or some religion?
      Why bother separate?
      How are you suppressed?
      Where's the information for the argument?

    • @covfefe1787
      @covfefe1787 หลายเดือนก่อน

      New Caledonia voted to be seperate from Metro France and be its own territory French Guiana is part of Metro France and they vote in French elections. EU law also applies to them. French Guiana is like Hawaii while New Caledonia is like Puerto Rico.

    • @braticuss
      @braticuss หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, they can vote in all French national elections. How about doing a minute worth of research before speaking about something you know noting of.

  • @yderelio
    @yderelio หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That’ s why France banned tiktok? Really?
    Does it fit with “freedom”? So sad…

  • @awake3362
    @awake3362 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    French territory?
    No to colonialism and exploitation in the 21st century. Independence now for the natives.

  • @RUTHLESSambition5
    @RUTHLESSambition5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    France still clinging on arent they😂😂😂😂 Desperate acts of a dying empire

    • @geoffoakland
      @geoffoakland หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A majority voted twice not for independence. The 'independenists' are a minority.
      Just like in Greenland, the independence political party gets less than 10% of the vote. The money they get from Denmark gives them a high standard of living, ,almost 40,000 euros per capita income

    • @user-vq1pt7yw9l
      @user-vq1pt7yw9l หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@geoffoakland majority Europeans ?

    • @geoffoakland
      @geoffoakland หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@user-vq1pt7yw9l the Europeans are actually a minority in both places, meaning even among the natives most voted against independence because the know their Healthcare, housing welfare all come from France (Denmark) in Greenlands case. If a majority were to vote for independence, so be it. They will have to make do on their own. And who will come step in if France were to leave? That's right, China, and we all know how that will work out.

    • @ksitali149
      @ksitali149 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@geoffoaklandIn Greenland, pro-independence parties have been in power since 1979. What nonsense are you talking about?!

  • @josephmara1892
    @josephmara1892 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kanak are native and original people who seeking independence. Colonial settler need to go back France 🇫🇷. France should learn from Algeria 🇩🇿

  • @andrewlim9345
    @andrewlim9345 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I see parallels between race relations in New Caledonia and Malaysia. Both societies seem fragmented alone ethnic lines with indigenous populations fearing being swamped by immigrant populations. Both Kanaks and migrant populations regard New Caledonia as home but disagree about the direction of the territory.

  • @Roonoh_Official
    @Roonoh_Official หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    France should just accept the will of Islanders.

  • @cuc6410
    @cuc6410 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's not French territory, time to go home

  • @ModernAffairs.
    @ModernAffairs. หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    European colonialism shame on you for your brutal past and present history.

    • @jaystrickland4151
      @jaystrickland4151 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shame on the independence movement you lost the vote and now try and deny it to others.

    • @jamesgo2014
      @jamesgo2014 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jaystrickland4151where they denied? To the colonizers?

    • @jaystrickland4151
      @jaystrickland4151 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamesgo2014 They voted to be a part of France that means the French living there are not colonizers.

    • @jamesgo2014
      @jamesgo2014 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jaystrickland4151 who voted? The natives? Or the settlers?

    • @jaystrickland4151
      @jaystrickland4151 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamesgo2014 the rules of the referendum excluded roughly 2/3s of the European population. Even with the scales tilted heavily in pro independence movement they could not win.

  • @roelralutin7805
    @roelralutin7805 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm for their independence. But france should try looking for ccp hand in there. Honiara is not far away.

    • @kamsunleong6648
      @kamsunleong6648 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sure let's blame China. Nothing to do with the recent voting reforms by Paris

  • @uck8978
    @uck8978 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Maybe they want another referendum?🤔

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe have a referendum ABOUT
      having a referendum..?

    • @uck8978
      @uck8978 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@2msvalkyrie529 this deserves a separate referendum of itself😅

    • @grayday14
      @grayday14 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@uck8978
      they are too drunk to vote

  • @Ratimir101
    @Ratimir101 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Free New Caledonia 🇳🇨
    Imperialists 🇫🇷 go home

  • @jaroslavkriz6848
    @jaroslavkriz6848 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stop the french colonization. It is ridiculous for the island in the Pacific to be a part of France. If the colonization continue the local Kanaks will lose their island.

  • @zolandia5262
    @zolandia5262 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is the economic relationship between France and New Caledonia? I'd imagine New Calefonia would be subsidised massively by mainland France.

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 หลายเดือนก่อน

      French should just leave them to
      get on with it.! They can sell coconuts or grass skirts to make a
      living . Good luck and Au Revoir...😂

    • @grayday14
      @grayday14 หลายเดือนก่อน

      true its the best place in the area because of that ,but after this mess ,im taking my family to a safer country

    • @fleurelise997
      @fleurelise997 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@2msvalkyrie529 France wants to continue to exploit the country's nickel supplies. It's all about greed.

  • @greatgalaxy2118
    @greatgalaxy2118 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crimea is not Russia, but 10 thousand KM away New Caledonia is France, lol.....

  • @questionmore4675
    @questionmore4675 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    the people dont want france lord over them.

    • @kizgintosbaga
      @kizgintosbaga หลายเดือนก่อน

      they probably judge themselves. "what kind of people are we to allow french to lord over us"

  • @Aimancitizens
    @Aimancitizens หลายเดือนก่อน

    ça me rappelle les indépendantistes corses qui ont reclame la meme situation ? 👇

  • @fibo2459
    @fibo2459 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New Caledonia, French Polynisia, Comores, St Martin, Martinique, Guadeloupe, Haiti. When is France going to come with a sustainable solution to its former territories who are all on the brink of civil war? Is France still able to govern and convince a diverse population?

  • @ModernAffairs.
    @ModernAffairs. หลายเดือนก่อน

    Peace freedom Justice is for everyone

  • @adrianhudek9111
    @adrianhudek9111 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Russia

  • @peeptweet
    @peeptweet หลายเดือนก่อน

    Azerbaijan will support the Kanak people in their quest for liberation. The global community must address French fascism and extreme nationalism.

  • @pisceanboy13
    @pisceanboy13 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'd side with the Kanaks, if it weren't for the fact that they had multiple opportunities to vote for independence via referendums but failed to do so. So now they cannot blame the colonizers for not achieving independence.

    • @Fate_trades
      @Fate_trades หลายเดือนก่อน

      The issue with the third referendum was that they requested a delay due to the large number of elderly people who died during the COVID pandemic, resulting in numerous funerals. They were concerned that their people wouldn't be able to go to the polls. Given that the Kanaks are in the minority, they must do their best to bring together as many people as possible. However, this becomes difficult when some are at the cemetery, others in the hospital with their family, and family is an important value in the Pacific islands.

    • @grayday14
      @grayday14 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Fate_trades when it comes to drinking ,they are there for breakfast time!

    • @asmirann3636
      @asmirann3636 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are ignorant. Natives are only 40% of the population. While the European migrants and settlers are 60% of the population.
      Natives would loose every referendum because they are lesser in numbers.
      French have orchestrated a population replacement of the Natives.

    • @braticuss
      @braticuss หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Fate_trades They voted 3 times.

  • @ModernAffairs.
    @ModernAffairs. หลายเดือนก่อน

    Make New Caledonia Native Again

  • @atrismith7487
    @atrismith7487 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Kanaks would be very happy to recieve all the special payments of aboriginals in Australia .And who will be looking after the Kanaks if they gain independences They will be given Australian money and end up in Australia Welfare System or working if they are inspired too work

  • @robertlee6338
    @robertlee6338 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    5:18 Australian Aborigines were not mistreated in Australia, Aborigines were hunted instead of foxes for sport

    • @kizgintosbaga
      @kizgintosbaga หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah. birits and their love of sports. they play the same game in America too. it was a continential genocide history never witnessed and will never vitness again.

    • @braticuss
      @braticuss หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kizgintosbaga The Mongols were worse. They removed a larger percentage of the world's population than another other group in human history.

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Macron asked China to build ports for New Caledonia.
    That empire and Australia were worried and angry.
    Whenever there are developments that go against the interests or hegemony of the Empire.
    This type of drama will happen.

  • @rubeng729
    @rubeng729 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Or you could send the foreign legion, pacify them, make everyone vote an stay there until they understand

  • @sportszone9159
    @sportszone9159 หลายเดือนก่อน

    French colony that's it

  • @grayday14
    @grayday14 หลายเดือนก่อน

    some work for their life and to get ahead but Kanaks just lay around all day beg ,smoke drink,then they claim unequal life ,everyone has the same opportunities but not everyone wants to take advantage ,I know because every day I see it

  • @stupidburp
    @stupidburp หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    C C P influence, probably

    • @brunoalbano616
      @brunoalbano616 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      More Russia, they love this type of instability. China is friendly to France, as De Gaulle recognized CCP rule of China 60 years ago and France is friendly to China. A New Caledonia close to China would cause an Australian intervention. If this causes a bot reaction, you can be sure of it.

    • @happymelon7129
      @happymelon7129 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Macron asked China to build ports for New Caledonia.
      That empire and Australia were worried and angry.
      Whenever there are developments that go against the interests or hegemony of the Empire.
      This type of drama will happen.

    • @xxoo-lp6vc
      @xxoo-lp6vc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@brunoalbano616The empire and AUS angry, Macron asked China to build port.

  • @zolandia5262
    @zolandia5262 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Notable use of "prepone" by the guest. Not a word.

  • @contra18765
    @contra18765 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Overseas territory? You mean Colonies?

  • @faqashdhangax4884
    @faqashdhangax4884 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I live another country I can vote they're citizens

    • @vivekudayakumar5039
      @vivekudayakumar5039 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ur country is not ruled by the French government, isn't it??

    • @vivekudayakumar5039
      @vivekudayakumar5039 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ur country is not ruled by the French government, isn't it??

  • @sherbajwa7443
    @sherbajwa7443 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Leave other people's countries alone.

  • @2msvalkyrie529
    @2msvalkyrie529 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This so called " lecturer " attempt to explain the current situation was painful.
    I lost the Will to Live after 10 minutes.

  • @CaptainKGF1
    @CaptainKGF1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    😂😂😂 , those who lecture world on hypocrisy democracy values will see widefire in own capital streets as they invited middle east in home...for last 200 years.😂😂😂😂😂

  • @DebadritoDutta
    @DebadritoDutta หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shameless people...the colonizers are lectureing

  • @amosgenga321
    @amosgenga321 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The dangers of colonialism and imperialism.

  • @wdp7128
    @wdp7128 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Them Kanaks are completely correct.
    If the laws are adopted,
    They would be disenfranchised.
    Like those original people of Australia.

  • @robertlee6338
    @robertlee6338 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Apartheid