Why Do Some Airports Have Night Flight Curfews?
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- Alright - we know the answer to the title of this video is pretty obvious. In fact, you’re probably already typing in the answer as a comment before you’ve watched the first five seconds of this video! But bear with us as we examine night curfews a little more closely and how they are setup at some airports.
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Sydney International Airport in Australia. The airport is so close to the city, and flies over genuinely expensive residential suburbs, that curfews, flight paths and noise complaints are so extreme that it becomes an election issue every single Federal election.
I wonder which came first the airport or the residences. Often the airport is placed outside of town as in the past jets were even louder. However, developers and town planners routinely allow for homes to be built ever nearer the otherwise removed airport. In that case people knew they were moving near an airport (or a steel mill or what ever) I'm not sure they have a position, but in the converse where the homes were there before the airport was constructed I feel that it should not be allowed anymore than some other disruptive industry would not be allowed in such a place.
The straightforward and fact-based answer to the question is: "Because the residents living near those airports are not Avgeeks."
Good answers!!!
Which begs the question why even have residents near an airport
Apparently avgeeks are not supposed to sleep. Who knew
@@jlust6660 no it’s just that we’re so used to the sound 9/10 it doesn’t affect us.
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Many y neighborhoods were there long before the airports.
LAX, BUR, LGB, & SNA have night flight curfews. The interesting one is Long Beach Ca, curfew is from 9pm -5am I believe. When Jet Blue was still there word around the campfire was Jet Blue still had departures until midnight so they paid a fine daily. Probably why they left LGB all together. At SNA planes can't takeoff using full power until a certain height is achieved. LAX also has a clause saying that a airplane can't make a turn until over the ocean...
I live right next to Calgary International and I actually quite enjoy hearing the planes while I’m trying to sleep
I live 3km away from an small airport without curfew. I don’t notice it a lot. Occasionally when I’m outside I hear planes taking off but otherwise it’s very calm.
This is why there is a lot of interest in the 737 MAX, A220 and A320neo planes. Their much lower noise levels allow for far more night operations even at noise-restricted airports.
Hell yeah I would live near one of those without a night curfew. I’d probably just soundproof my walls, so I can plane spot 24/7, 365d per year
Melbourne does not have a curfew.
It was opened 1970 a long way from residential areas with future runways clearly defined on maps.
People built houses closer and closer and now some are demanding a curfew.
My view is they bought cheap land and need to live with it.
Same with DFW - it was built in the middle of nowhere & then the area was built up around it. At one time several residents tried to sue to have restrictions forced upon the airport. Thankfully the courts said no, that the airport was there long before any residents so tough luck.
There was a SWA flight that would fly over my home @ 0445 each morning as I was heading out for work. I was sad when that flight was cancelled.
Some would ask why would you buy a house near an airport and then complain about it? I actually have some acquaintances that have done this...they're not happy with my opinion of them. Common sense is definitely becoming a lost art
I am at more than 30km from AMS, but depending on wind conditions and runway assignments there frequently airplanes do come over very low as they line up for landing. It’s almost an hour to get to the airport from here by car or train. So… do I live “near” an airport in your book?
that finally explains why on several occaision when i get to the airport late at night or early the next morning, the gate terminals are pretty empty
I live next to the Haneda Tokyo international airport and the flight route is directly over my houses but thankfully the law don’t allow any plane to go over Tokyo at night so I love it
I've lived in a bravo airspace area my entire life. Growing up, I was literally *directly* under the flight path for landing aircraft. I could tell when a 727 was coming way before anything else. I hate the 727 in particular, but I was fine with other jets. Where I live now, there are a lot of medical helicopters and also a mix of charlie traffic. Used to it.
IMO If you don ‘t like noisy planes taking off and landing close to where you live. Then move to a different house away from an airport…moving you is easier than moving the airport. Done
I lived right under a flight path to a city centre airport, now closed. Planes flew over on approach late at night. People have no business complaining about airport noise when they choose to live near an airport 🙄
AMEN!
I live 6 miles from East Midlands Airport (EMA) the airport's busiest hours are between 9PM and 6AM because of the cargo operations and we've never experienced any issues with noise
Awesome, luckily, aircraft are much quieter than they used to be, it's amazing considering their size!
I grew up on a flight path for landing 34km away from the Manila Airport. From the noisy BAC111 in the 70's to today's Airbus NEO's. Newer planes with NEO's are indeed quieter. We are used to it and can identify planes through sounds. People who file cases are just in for the money.
I actually live close to Changi Airport, before covid i would see tons of cargo 747s and passenger A380s. Its extremely amazing to look at the planes in the night!
Same here. The GE90 rotor bow during start-up is a great alarm clock ☺️
I was in Lisbon and they have a Curfew until 5am
I live along the runway path for two of the four runways for Orlando International (MCO). Arrivals are allowed until about midnight on these runways, but all departures are required to take the other two runways that primarily fly over the rural areas of Orlando during these restrictive hours; this is due to those flight paths being over less densely populated areas of the metropolitan area.
Hello Simple Flying. Amazing video to explain Night Curfews at airports. I personally do not live near an airport but I do live near train tracks and so we often hear the sound of the horn every time a train came through. At first it was annoying but then you get used to it. I do believe that the same concept wouldd apply here as well. Once your body gets used to the constant sound of airplanes taking-off and landing every night.
Yes I would love to live near an airport with flights leaving and coming all the time
I live about 20 miles from an airport and most times it's fine but sometimes the approach route is over my house and the 747 can be quite loud at 2000ft at 11pm
At Sydney airport, the curfew is between 11PM to 6am. During those times, you’ll see BAE qaud jets are used for cargo. And also takeoff towards the ocean no matter if there’s 8knt crossing wind or tailwind. Only takeoff to the suburbs if strong winds comes
At YVR there is a runway ban. The North runway is shut down overnight (except during the a part of the summer when they do maintenance on the South runway) for a noise restriction.
Bogota's system for night ops is interesting. The airport is located on the western side of the city , with rural areas to the west and heavily populated neighborhoods to the north, south and east. between midnight and 6:00 runway 31R is used for all departures and 13R is used for all arrivals, As long as winds are below the maximum tailwind for the runways/aircraft. This is done to avoid having planes fly over the city at night
A couple of villages are close to the approach path for 13R, But given the low power setting for landings, it's prefeable than having departing aircraft
During the day, Runways 13L and 13R are used for landing and departures unless the tailwind limit is exceeded due to them having an ILS and a straight-in approach. Runways 31L and 31R are only used during the day if there is a lot of westerly wind
I have a friend that lives right next to the atlanta airport in georgia, otherwise known for its title as the busiest ariport in the world. He said to me in a conversation that it never stops, even at night. Every 20 secs or so another plane lands during the day, and at night its no different, he said ab every 1 min a fedex or a ups lands. Couldn't imagine trying to sleep lmao
KSAN has curfew between 2300- 6:30 for take offs. Only landings are allowed. If you wanna take off under the curfew it is authorized, but a fee will be imposed.
I’m approx 5nm. It’s not bad. I know it’s bedtime when I hear FedEx at 2030ish with the 757-200 they run.
This may not count, but I live directly under EWR's 4L/R approach, when the aircraft make their final left turn for final and they're around 5 minutes from touch down (30 miles). You'll notice them sometimes, especially during bad weather when they fly low. But it honestly isn't bad at all, and honestly quite soothing. Might just be me though, I've never heard anyone else complain. Gives me killer views for plane spotting though.
SYD Sydney Airport use to have 11pm curfew when I was there. We could apply for “dispensation” to Canberra for a departure after 11pm & usually always granted it more often than not. 👍🏻☺️✈️🇦🇺
Sydney still has a curfew. Aircraft are allowed to take off after 11pm provided they have pushback clearance before.
Night air traffic and airports are beautiful glitter.
When I lived in Perth, i lived over the approach into RW03 there was a plane every 15 minutes with no curfew, I got used to it
I currently live under a flight path from Melbourne airport, I am in bed before the curfew takes place but I couldn't care less because the noise actually helps me sleep.
I served on an aircraft carrier. It wasn't the noise on board, it was the deafening roar of silence at home. :D lol
The thing is you move next to an airport expecting sound so the airport shouldn't have to change operations. noise can also be avoided through sound insulation. My friend lives right next to a busy airport and hears nothing at all
If the airport was built first (away from the city), why allow real-estate to develop land (within 2-3 mile radius) for residential use?
The neighbors of Mexico City's airport like this video
paphos airport seems to be one of those airports that has fight hours restrictions all the times i have flown into or out of there i have not seen any flights scheduled to depart or arrive between 2330 and 0600 even though the airport is about 15 miles from the nearest town.
I could definitely live near an airport, lived next to the railroad in college and had no issues.
I live under the take off flight path for YVR. Pre-pandemic there used to be a 4:30am departure flight that was annoying
I live next to dubai intl. And on RWY 30 path. My wife gets really sick of the aircraft noises but shes getting used to it. While since day one, my avgeek neurons tingling of how beautiful those noises are. So i dont mind at all living near an airport at this stage.
"Could you tolerate living near an airport"
I do live fairly near a major international airport but one of the "noise restrictions" at that airport has the aircraft making most of their noise where humans won't hear it. Approach and climb-out are over a large river, part of which is surrounded by wetlands and other spaces that don't have any homes on them... so there aren't that many people who can easily hear the flying airliners from their homes.
That sounds suspiciously like Vancouver where I live
Sounds like Orlando (MCO) to me - that’s what they do here at night lol
@@reedreinfeld3737 that's almost exactly what they do here at night as well.
Not only does Sydney have a night curfew but it also has a day time hourly movement restriction too. I’ve sat at the holding point for 34L for 10 minutes waiting to depart simply because the hourly movement rate had been reached.
Did you touch yourself while waiting to depart?
I find jet noise therapeutic so I can't complain. It's like the white noise or cooling fans people use to help them sleep. Turbine powered helicopters are a bigger annoyance at these late hours.
In 2018 my flight from Luton to Ljubljana was delayed by 5 hours so instead of landing at 8pm we landed at 1am... the airport was ready to be closed but the poor workers needed to stay for our flight.
I don’t mind planes flying at night but not all the time. Curfews can also mean that you don’t have to work nights.
I live near a small airport and the reason there aren't any planes taking off or landing at night doesn't have anything to do with noise. I guess it is all about safety and demand: There's not need to fly in night time from or to our city, but also this isn't like an international airport with too many departures or arrivals.
0:50 well they baught a house there it’s kinda hard to miss JFK airport in your backyard
i would be so happy if i lived next to an airport that had constant flights. The town i live in only gets a departure or arrival around once every 35 mins
If you don't like noise, don't move near an airport. It's pretty simple.
Some people have had their family homes there for longer than their nearby airport had existed. Heathrow is a great example with Myrtle Avenue
I live close to CGN where we have more flights at night due to big cargo operations from UPS.
At RPLL, T2 will close down at the night mostly on the domestic sector.
I live right under the approach path and my airport is 4km away. And the airport has no Restrictions. I really enjoy it:)
FYI in case you’re wondering the beautiful shots at the beginning of the video are from Fiumicino airport in Rome
Alot of plane fly over my house it’s annoying at night especially when it’s 777x
I lived near Orlando International for a few years and barely noticed the noise. Maybe one a month I heard a plane and I was very close to the airport.
I’m the biggest avgeek as you’ll find, but even I can’t stand hearing planes 24/7. I spent 12 hrs a day for years working right next to a runway that supported both civil & military aviation 24 hrs a day. Guess I’m over it.
I guess everyone’s different. I moved next to a very busy airport a couple years back and I absolutely love seeing planes pass just a few hundred feet overhead. Specially the wide bodies.
Initially my dad told me you’ll get bored in a few days but I don’t think I ever will.
Toronto 3 airports all varry, Pearson International is from 0000 - 0630, Billy Biship is from 1100 - 0600 and Hamilton International does not have a curfew. Pearson does allow airlines to fly in within the curfew hours on a daily but comes with a heafty fee.
makes you wonder that the engineers behind the engines (GE, Rolls-Royce, etc.) take everything into account. not only to decrease the sound inside the cabin, but also for those airport with restrictions, residential comfort and the penalties for the noise produced. perhaps in time, those curfews will be lifted and all airports can and will be open 24/7....but that's a long way away.
When Japanese tourism was a big deal in the nineties no one in the flight path of Cairns International Airport got a full nights sleep as the flight came in low and loud at 4.30 AM !
I would love to live near an airport! That’s what earplugs are for! 😅
My house is right next to PEK and is in traffic pattern so it is hard sometimes but helps me planespot and when they take off they turn to go right above me and once i saw sichuan airlines panda livery a350.
I've lived near USAF bases and airports. The airports aren't that bad. Living across the street from Reagan the sound of the jets was nearly soothing.
It's the air force bases that are freaking loud.
Modern aircraft engines are much quieter than what it was 25+ years ago, I think people should do their research and think twice on where they want to live especially within the flight paths and departures are normally louder than arrivals.
At paris-orly curfew is applied because it is closer to the city than Roissy charles de gaulles which doesn't have curfew.
Actually Shanghai Hongqiao Airport SHA also has a ban on departures between 0-6am
At Chicago O'Hare International Airport every 3 months they rotate the runway for take off and landing
When I flew in and out of Bangalore, international flights arrived and departed at night. My flight leaving departed after 3:00 AM.
I love living by Ontario International Airport, California 🥰🛫
I have a question : what does the plane or the pilot do in an airport after a long flight? Like do they sleep there waiting for next day flight or its just the disembarkation and the boarding ?
Their are regulations in place in how much rest time they are required to have for long haul flights. The exact number vary by regulator and often union contracts.
@@johniii8147 like for exemple the emirates flight from DXB to LAX is so long likendo they just land and wait for boarding and then leave immediately ?
@@adibak6434 no, there will be another crew in LA which will fly back, crews of long haul flights usually get to enjoy a few days at the destination, but it’s too short to be called vacation
@@spongebubatz wow i didnt know that thanks ☺
@@adibak6434 No of course not. They have a rest period. In LAX of a day or two depending on rostering.
I notice a KEWR they allow cargo flights only between the hours of 1 and 5 AM
Yep
I grew up near Midway in Chicago
Who was there first? The airport or the residents? In most cases the airport was there way before the people. I feel they chose to live there then they don’t have a right to complain.
This was a great video!
Thanks for the feedback! - TB
I’ve stayed at the Atlanta airport several times so I would defiantly live by an airport. FOR SHURE
I live near Pune international airport but I don't face any such problems because we always have narrow body jets but still they make some noise but I like to stay near the airport
Shouldn't you pretty much know when you move to an area if there is a major airport near you? Close enough to be distracting to you?
In my family we saying: if you move close to a airport you have no rights to complain about aircraft flying there if you want a quiet place don get a house near the bloody airport
Am I jus weird for liking the sound of the planes n falling asleep to them?
What is the airport featured at 1:22, please?
I live 20 car minutes from FRA. I could hardly live here without the ban. Either I am annoyed by landing or starting machines. Fortunately there are different routes for starting jets depending on weight and destination. Only the heavy ones take the Route directly over our town. But all landings from west are operated over our heads. You need to know, that in summer in Germany it is common to air the home to cool it down during the night. ACs are not common and very expansive to operate and also noisy - for the neighbours and the owner. And nobody is willing to buy an AC for the sake of airport operation. Therefore a promise has been made by the politics (and enforced by court) to set up a night flight ban with the start of operation of the fourth runway in 2011.
Recently herd of someone complain about an "Air Ambulance" transfer landing in Southampton at 4am with a critically ill patient and being woken up. I just hope this person NEVER needs an Air Ambulance. Southampton General Hospital in South of England is one of the countries leading hospitals for critical care.
Night time noise restrictions.
I love the air Namíbia 🇳🇦
This video..i like it👍👍
I never heard any aircraft take off or landed in YIA at night
I don’t mind an all round roar
I grow up near Muritala Muhameed International and got used to seeing mega jet at window level on the 4th floor at 1am and all through till 6am and we still slept like a baby ..lol😝🤓😅😅
Maybe, depends. I'd have to think about that.🙂
There's an airport in Umthata, South Africa that closes at 6pm last 2 planes departing from Johannesburg had to return to Johannesburg it was only a few minutes past six 😂😂😂
I work at ewr newark do we have a night curfew
i never knew Some Airports Have Night Flight Curfews
I could do it at any time, but I love planes.
2:54 what airport is that?
I think its Dubai
I do tolerate night landing but you cannot sleep well,some airports in central América take those flight especial from Europe, not very happy.
I could live near can airport as rents are typically cheaper
Yes I would tolerate the noise.
And would never sleep because of the noise which ment i could wake up all night studying 🤣🤣
I would love to stay near the airport...
2:51 anyone know which airport is that?
Newark Liberty int.
@@jethrovanderklij815 from that aerial view looks like quite a big airport
What’s the airport at 1:25?
Newark Liberty int.
@@jethrovanderklij815 thanks!