In the mid-80's I worked at a body shop that got a contract with USPS to repaint several mail collection boxes. I and another guy went out in a non-marked pickup truck and collected said mailboxes. Nobody even questioned us. It felt pretty strange. Oh, it didn't take us very long to unbolt them and load them in the truck. 7-10 minutes sounds about right.
Sorry, but stupidity is not an excuse. They could have done that then called the PO bcse someone told them they were idiots. I think it's going to get ugly bcse if anyone died under their care. I can see the lawsuits coming. That's like seeing a car parked by dumpster and thinking it's trash.
Imagine telling a lawyer he nitpicks details. That's part of the job. 😂 Literally small details like that could win you a case, even by a technicality.
This reminds me of a few years back, when someone broke into a DMV and stole the specialized printer that they print ID's and Driver's Licenses with. Long story short, couldn't get it to work, so he callled them for "tech support".
Steve, You are right about the purpose of the green boxes. I'm 70 at time of posting and recall seeing the postal step vans delivering the mail to these boxes, and seeing the letter carriers (we called them mailmen back then) picking up the mail from them.
@@shakemiz Surely employers in all sectors always have a general duty to ensure their employees are fit to perform the job? An independent licensing body does not absolve the employer of their duties. How many times have we heard of employers being sued when a truck is involved in a road collision and someone is injured or killed? Those drivers are licensed too. If the employer has no duty then how can they legitimately be sued? Then there's Steve's favourite - the warranty of merchantability (or its equivalent for services). The employer has a legal duty to provide the service people pay for and ensure it is up to the required standard. If an employer thinks that checking their employees are licensed is sufficient and all they need to do then they are being negligent. When a lawsuit (or worse - an inquest or criminal case) arrives, saying but these two bozos were licensed won't be a successful defense.
Yeah if you want to get to the hospital fast, you call these guys. The only way this story could be more perfect is if they were quoting Talladega Nights the whole time.
Postal inspectors are no joke. They are federal commissioned LEO that are required to be armed and have the same authority as an FBI agent has in regard to arrest powers, serving subpoenas, and executing warrants.
Committing a crime through the USPS is really foolish as you end up bringing basically a second FBI into the situation and a whole lot of Byzantine but quite serious potential charges.
The Postal Service has surplus boxes and it is possible to obtain one. We have one sitting in front of our Post that is a flag collection box. Note: It was an Eagle Scout project and lawfully obtained from the USPS. With regard to these two, I am amazed that they got it loose in 7 minutes. The bolts get really rusty and are hard to remove unless you cut them.
Planned a crime, committed that crime, used work equipment (an AMBULANCE) to transport the stolen material INCLUDING US MAIL, the list goes on. They will probably be going away for DECADES. What types of drugs were they on?
Nah 12 months Max and most of that is probably probation. apparently they didn't take the mailbox with the intentions of committing mail fraud however stupid the idea was.
@@ncdogg425 It wasn't mail fraud, it was mail theft, interferring with mail, theft of public property, etc, etc. While they MAY get a smaller sentence with a lenient judge, it's also possible a judge may throw the book at them, even just as a deterrent, as has happened in the past.
My understanding, and it is only conjecture, is that mail boxes were painted green shortly after WWII because the government had a HUGE surplus of green paint following the end of hostilities.. (my creds? I was born a couple days after D-Day, and recall hearing such information, anecdotally, when I was a youngster).
Could be. Afterall, police and fire uniforms are mostly blue because of the enormous surplus of Civil War army uniforms and uniform fabric that were sold off between the 1860s and 1890s, in that case, they just stuck with the color over time
The dark green boxes are for the mail carriers to pick up more mail ready for distribution to another part of their route. Those vehicles have limited space. The blue boxes for outgoing mail
In my mind this sounds like a misunderstanding occurred somewhere in the scenario. Like, the guys had the idea that, "hey this post box is in a really weird place, is it even being used? We could sure use it." Then, in discussing getting permission from the postal service, someone got the impression the someone else had already received permission from the postal service, so when it was bolted to the ground they thought "Well, we got permission," and took it anyway. Comedy ensues.
One thing I do know about the American Mail Service, they take a very dim view of any fuckery with the mail. Up to and including those weird boxes you have for your mail.
Another case involving incompetent criminals. By the way, mail boxes are about as common as public pay phones. I have not seen public pay phones around here in a long, long long, time.
@@DrEpicPhD yeah he plays the game but it’s kind of silly that so many people comment on a $100 bill for a challenge he has outstanding instead of actually commenting on the topic at hand. This hundred dollar bill is actually there for a purpose to indicate that he’s willing to pay up if someone can proof to him where the Supreme Court has stated that you do not need a drivers license. Because there are some folks out there that think that a drivers license is something that is not necessary and they are free to operate a motor vehicle without such a restriction on their travel. I rarely see anyone actually comment on the actual purpose behind the one at dollar bill and it bothers me to see so many people who make no valuable contribution in the comments toward the topic but are very keen to simply point out where the $100 bill is. I could care less where the $100 bill is because I know Steve is correct, and I would rather sit there and enjoy the video and I see all these silly comments pointing out where the $100 bill is and once in a while I decide to reply like I did hear with The statement that I think it’s a little bit silly to be so focused on something that is ultimately not even part of the video really. So yes, Steve plays the game, but I wish more people would have something substantive to say. Ran over
Stuff like this frustrates me to no end, it's almost as bad as that porch pirate I had to deal with by ordering the ark of the convenant off amazon Still don't know how to get the melted wax stain out of my driveway, but fixed is fixed
Right? I just assumed this to be the case but once they admitted it was bolted to the ground it’s like welp… there goes that defense. I’m not a fan of lying of course but this whole situation is weird. Were they high on Nitrous? Was it a bet? Were they really just trying to improve the logistics flow of their EMS organization, what the heck?
Given the time at which the box was taken, I'd guess that it had recently been emptied, and had little or nothing in it. Surely, if there had been mail in it, that would have been mentioned in the complaint.
That's a good point. If there was no mail in it, it would be hard to file federal charges of mail theft. Then they could only be charged with stealing a metal box.
The dark green boxes are called "relay boxes" and they still exist in large quantities. You're correct that they're used to temporarily hold mail for either collections or delivery.
In post office terms the green boxes "Not for deposit of mail" are called "relay boxes". As you mentioned walking routes (not many of these now) would reload their mail sacks (carried over the shoulder) so as to not have too heavy a load to carry around. Both these boxes, and the blue ones (which have a deposit door/slot) are opened by a key that mere possession by unauthorized people is a big no-no (crime).
Are they crazy ya don’t mess with the mail!!!!!! I worked as a carpenter/locksmith at a state university and we had housing apartments/dorms etc. The postal service wanted their locks installed on doors to mail rooms to access boxes from behind. I said sure leave the locks and a key and I’ll install and return key. They said no we will have someone with me as I installed them, they sure did. Watched as I did it and as I tried key they were there.
Back in around 1999/2000-ish, don't remember the year exactly, not important. But I saw a tv show about the world's dumbest criminals. And the one I remember most is about a man who was smuggling illicit substances via his suitcase through the airport. He saw the police had been sent in and he also saw the substance sniffing dogs and he panicked and picked up another random suitcase to try not to draw attention to himself. Turns out the suitcase he picked up also had the same kind of illicit substances inside it and he got arrested for smuggling illicit substances.
In California, it is a bad idea to use collection boxes because they get broken into or stolen frequently. If I have something to mail, I take it inside the Post Office building every time. In the 90s, some of the mail I had sent out was stolen from a collection box .
In Australia there are several laws that deal with this. We even have a law called 'Steal by Finding'. In court all you have to say is that I didn't mean to deprive the owner of his goods and chattels. Then it becomes a vagrancy charge. $100... go away
I talked to a man and he told me his story. He and his friend went to prison for a prank in his youth for stealing a 500lb bike rack. He was out in his car when he was drunk. In an instant, they had this funny idea of stealing a 15ft long heavy steal bike rack. It was a prank, just for fun. They picked it up, lifted it on the roof of the car and drove down main street with it on the top of their roof. Cops are always on main street in small towns. The cops saw them, red lights, they pulled over. Later, they both went to prison for this dumb stunt. I think back to my youth, at that time I had no life experience at all. I had no idea how very serious things can get in an instant. In small towns, these county cops are always out to put you in prison, especially if you are a young adult.
Imagine them getting a call along the way for an emergency and they show up with no room in the ambulance due to the stolen loot. 😄 These guys are pure friggin' geniuses and deserve a promotion - they can decorate their jail cells with images of the box.
$1800 for something hand made and includes material. Sounds like a decent price. Basically 8 hours labor, including painting, and material (metal, hinges).
I've read that the USPS does, sometimes, sell surplus mailboxes. They should have looked into getting one of those instead of stealing one that is in use.
My Dad was a mail carrier for 30 years in Manhattan. The green boxes are absolutely so that trucks can drop bags of sorted mail off mid-route for the carriers to pick up and deliver. They're still used today.
I'm Glad an honored to be here to answer all your questions. No I can not answer any questions because it is being investigated. Or I don't have that information for you now, I will get that to you later after we find that pigs can fly.
Stupid criminals make for very funny stories sometimes. My mother, who was a public defender for several years of her career, once heard a story from a colleague about the most foolish client *they* ever had: He was accused of holding up a McDonald's in broad daylight, in downtown New York City, at lunch hour. There must've been forty people in that place who all saw the robbery happen. Now, often too many witnesses are just as good for a defendant as no witnesses at all -- they end up disagreeing with each other, and everything gets confused. So it went in this case. When they were interviewed separately, no two witnesses could agree on pretty much anything. He was tall, short, fat, thin, Black, white, Latino, long-haired, shaven-headed... you name it. There was only one thing they all agreed on, and every single one of them mentioned it unprompted: they said he was wearing a pair of bright gold lamé pants during the robbery. The client my mom's colleague had to defend was caught four blocks away from the restaurant, carrying $2,000 in a McDonald's bag and *still wearing* the gold lamé pants. Mom said that her colleague lamented that it would've actually been the perfect alibi. All he had to do was whip round the corner, take off the pants in an alley, drop them into a dumpster and walk away in gym shorts. Nobody would have ever looked twice at him. As it was, Mom said, her colleague had a hard day defending that dude.
"for personal and decorative purposes" sounds so silly, but I can actually believe that part. Look at all the guys who decorate their garage or mancave with stop, yield and speed limit signs.
From what I understand, those boxes are usually keyed alike within an area, so if a key goes missing, now someone potentially has access to all the boxes around. For that reason, I typically will just go to the post office and put my outbound stuff through the slot in the lobby.
the green boxes are called relay boxes and you are correct they are for the carrier on a walking route to place mail for delivery. by the way they are still used today. One thing that is missing from the story is how would they open the door on the hlue mailbox. The mailmen use a key called an arrow key that is unique to each geographical area
They need to be working for a NASCAR pit crew. Even in an emergency it takes a minute or two to unload and load the wheeled stretcher, and 99% of the drop boxes I've seen have bolts so rusty that it would take cutting them with a torch to remove them. Getting all 4 bolts out in 3-5 minutes sounds very suspicious unless one of them did it on a previous trip to prep for the theft. Most of the times I have seen the USPS replace a box, they had to pour a new slab with brand new bolts sticking out or drill new holes in the existing slab if big enough.
I remember the days of multiple boxes at each location, one for local mail, one for out of state mail, and you had to put it in the right one or it would come back to your house.
One of my clients is an ambulance service and those ambulances when pulled into the garage automatically upload a ton of data. Not just gps data but also braking data and acceleration data, voice recordings, and just everything you can possibly record. And they can get fired or at least blocked from driving if they have too many heavy braking events. They want smooth and safe drivers. So these guys should know that they could be traced.
Those two EMS workers must have been sampling the meds in their Ambulances' drug box. Much cheaper to just have a metalworker hand build you one. That way there are no criminal records, court costs, parole officers, and you get to keep your job and your profession.
The most concerning part of this story is that these are EMS technicians, that are to some degree in charge of saving peoples' lives. Tell me that this happened out in the sticks in Alabama, and I might be able to swallow the pill a little bit easier. You might as well watch the video of them doing this with the Dukes of Hazard theme playing in the background.
While not a mail drop box, the similar size book drop box was stolen from a local area rural library near where I live in Louisiana a few years ago, and was never found.
the only thing I thought hearing this story: when does hertz enter the picture.
😂😂😂
They probably asked to rent from Hertz, but suprisingly backed out when would-be renters said they need to collect a postbox bolted to the ground.
The ambulance was rented from Hertz.
It hertz my brain to even think about it...
Hertz probably required a stolen postbox to return a vehicle.
In the mid-80's I worked at a body shop that got a contract with USPS to repaint several mail collection boxes. I and another guy went out in a non-marked pickup truck and collected said mailboxes. Nobody even questioned us. It felt pretty strange.
Oh, it didn't take us very long to unbolt them and load them in the truck. 7-10 minutes sounds about right.
The word "mastermind" is doing heavy lifting :-).
He was the smart one! TWICE as smart as his buddy!
Now you just need a hitter, a hacker, a grifter and a thief!
@@Frankjc3rd or a Brute, a Stalker, a Corrupter, and a Dominator
My minds impression of this is 50% Walt and Jesse stealing the barrell and 50% Homer falling out of the ambulance down the cliff.
The frightening thing is that these guys passed the requirements to be EMS certified and are making life and death decisions.
They do all there is to do. You dont think they'd try anything to keep you alive if it meant unbolting your soul from your body? lol
There was never any question of his Job's conduct, but his criminal conduct. I'd say that's a good thing.
Drugs
Sorry, but stupidity is not an excuse. They could have done that then called the PO bcse someone told them they were idiots. I think it's going to get ugly bcse if anyone died under their care. I can see the lawsuits coming. That's like seeing a car parked by dumpster and thinking it's trash.
Intelligent vs. Smart.
Imagine telling a lawyer he nitpicks details. That's part of the job. 😂 Literally small details like that could win you a case, even by a technicality.
This reminds me of a few years back, when someone broke into a DMV and stole the specialized printer that they print ID's and Driver's Licenses with. Long story short, couldn't get it to work, so he callled them for "tech support".
Sometimes being stupid can be a crime.
crime against humanity 🤣🤣
At least they conveniently wear those red ball caps these days.
Shame some of them get qualified immunity from it.
I disagree.
Stupidity LEADS to crime.
@@BlackJesus8463if you VOTED, you can't cry about the STUPID prizes from your masters.. 💯💯😂😂😂
Steve, You are right about the purpose of the green boxes. I'm 70 at time of posting and recall seeing the postal step vans delivering the mail to these boxes, and seeing the letter carriers (we called them mailmen back then) picking up the mail from them.
A guy I worked with called the cops to report that someone had stolen a TV from his car-a TV he had bought knowing it was stolen.
This story elevates the immortal phrase, _"Hold my beer and watch this!"_ to a whole new level.
The scary part... people's lives were in the hands of these bozos and their employer thought they were suitable for that job. 😬
How would you know before hand?
😬 excellent emoji choice.
The employer is not at fault. Usually is the state that license EMS to ensure their skills are up to date.
@@shakemiz Surely employers in all sectors always have a general duty to ensure their employees are fit to perform the job? An independent licensing body does not absolve the employer of their duties.
How many times have we heard of employers being sued when a truck is involved in a road collision and someone is injured or killed? Those drivers are licensed too. If the employer has no duty then how can they legitimately be sued?
Then there's Steve's favourite - the warranty of merchantability (or its equivalent for services). The employer has a legal duty to provide the service people pay for and ensure it is up to the required standard.
If an employer thinks that checking their employees are licensed is sufficient and all they need to do then they are being negligent. When a lawsuit (or worse - an inquest or criminal case) arrives, saying but these two bozos were licensed won't be a successful defense.
They were sober is the sad part .
Hmm…, I’m gonna need some hard evidence to support this assertion, pretty much every line of the story argues against it.
@@briangonigal3974 Fair point.
Yeah. This is not sober activity.
.....MAYBE.....
I was going to ask if they were drinking on the job
Just OMG... When will stupidity become an actual crime?
If you VOTED, you're complicit in all the crimes done in your name by your masters.. 💯💯
"What is THAT doing in the back of the ambulance?"
"Uh... that's a psych patient. Thinks he's a USPS mailbox. Tragic."
Rumor has it the box had gone postal.
@@martinswiney2192 He's definitely feeling a little blue right now.
THESE are the people who revive and stabilize the dying and race Code 3 to the hospital?
They have multiple talents.
Yes, they have very weird senses of humour. I'm a Trauma Tech, I've met a fair few in over forty years of work.
Yeah if you want to get to the hospital fast, you call these guys. The only way this story could be more perfect is if they were quoting Talladega Nights the whole time.
So refreshing 3 replies and no one has said it... yet.
Well, not anymore at least 😂
Postal inspectors are no joke. They are federal commissioned LEO that are required to be armed and have the same authority as an FBI agent has in regard to arrest powers, serving subpoenas, and executing warrants.
And who gave them the power, consent, legitimacy, 💵💵 and weapons?? GODS?? 😂😂😂
That's who arrested some of my wife's friends who was selling supplements they weren't supposed to.
Committing a crime through the USPS is really foolish as you end up bringing basically a second FBI into the situation and a whole lot of Byzantine but quite serious potential charges.
@@patrickday4206 and how many times did they VOTE?? 😂😂😂
@@jpnewman1688 Daniel Smith for selling mms in federal court in spokane Washington I think he got 10 years
The Postal Service has surplus boxes and it is possible to obtain one. We have one sitting in front of our Post that is a flag collection box. Note: It was an Eagle Scout project and lawfully obtained from the USPS. With regard to these two, I am amazed that they got it loose in 7 minutes. The bolts get really rusty and are hard to remove unless you cut them.
Of course an EMT would probably have tools for quickly cutting something loose, as people do sometimes get stuck on things.
My town turned a decommissioned postal box (painted a different color, clear signs on it) into one of the drop-off points for ballots.
@@MonkeyJedi99 My city used to use one to collect water/sewer payments. It was taken out of service because those boxes are completely insecure.
Well, if you accept that anything can be broken, and locks only keep honest people honest, then nothing is secure.
Planned a crime, committed that crime, used work equipment (an AMBULANCE) to transport the stolen material INCLUDING US MAIL, the list goes on. They will probably be going away for DECADES. What types of drugs were they on?
They'd been at The Entonox(O2/N2O) they keep in the back.
Nah 12 months Max and most of that is probably probation. apparently they didn't take the mailbox with the intentions of committing mail fraud however stupid the idea was.
@@ncdogg425 I didn't know their gender was in question.
@@kenmore01 haha I fixed it thanks
@@ncdogg425 It wasn't mail fraud, it was mail theft, interferring with mail, theft of public property, etc, etc. While they MAY get a smaller sentence with a lenient judge, it's also possible a judge may throw the book at them, even just as a deterrent, as has happened in the past.
Federal Court is BIG LEAGUE. 99% conviction rates.
Doesn't make it right. ✌
No one gets that rate without mistakes made or rights trampled.
@@BlackJesus8463 Actually yes it does.
@@adama1294 They get that rate because they don't take a case to trial without being able to prove it.
Same with the Hitler Jew trials. High conviction rates
My understanding, and it is only conjecture, is that mail boxes were painted green shortly after WWII because the government had a HUGE surplus of green paint following the end of hostilities..
(my creds? I was born a couple days after D-Day, and recall hearing such information, anecdotally, when I was a youngster).
Honestly makes sense, just having millions of gallons of mil spec green paint that is designed to resist the elements and be applied to steel
Could be. Afterall, police and fire uniforms are mostly blue because of the enormous surplus of Civil War army uniforms and uniform fabric that were sold off between the 1860s and 1890s, in that case, they just stuck with the color over time
The dark green boxes still exist in some Massachusetts neighborhoods.
The dark green boxes are for the mail carriers to pick up more mail ready for distribution to another part of their route. Those vehicles have limited space. The blue boxes for outgoing mail
I've seen a few of those in Canton MA.
@@michaeltelson9798the blue boxes are also used as relay boxes the same as the green ones, especially in areas with walking routes.
In my mind this sounds like a misunderstanding occurred somewhere in the scenario. Like, the guys had the idea that, "hey this post box is in a really weird place, is it even being used? We could sure use it." Then, in discussing getting permission from the postal service, someone got the impression the someone else had already received permission from the postal service, so when it was bolted to the ground they thought "Well, we got permission," and took it anyway. Comedy ensues.
This is some serious Laurel and Hardy stuff here. Or maybe Three Stooges.
Soitney.
Oh a wise guy.
@@leechandler3411Well, this is another fine mess you’ve gotten me into, Stanley.
Nyuk, nyuk
Back in the late 80's, I covered a mailbox with Lincoln Logs and stuck a roof on it.
Lasted 2 days... gone.
Old school Legos
That's pretty amusing.
0:28 Noticed the T-shirt! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
One thing I do know about the American Mail Service, they take a very dim view of any fuckery with the mail. Up to and including those weird boxes you have for your mail.
Except for the Postmaster General.
I don't think it is weird to not have a bug expressway cut through my front door.
What we have here is a couple of certified Super geniuses
Ben’s doing LAW4NYC today.
Dam' , Thought it only dropped early for me...
Mornin' Bill
@@Bobs-Wrigles5555 14 secs for me! 😁
G’nite Bob.
Another case involving incompetent criminals. By the way, mail boxes are about as common as public pay phones. I have not seen public pay phones around here in a long, long long, time.
You'll find most public phone boots near airports, bus terminals and train stations.
Like I said in the live feed, I love your levity and humour! You made my morning!
Can we keep it? It followed us home. Is it a puppy? No its a mailbox.
Understatement of the year: "When something is bolted to the ground and owned by the federal government, you generally don't want to mess with it."
Ben rests against the inner edge of the top shelf of the bookcase to our right.
Who cares
What is Ben?
@@scotthannan8669 Steve
That’s the oldest trick in the book
@@DrEpicPhD yeah he plays the game but it’s kind of silly that so many people comment on a $100 bill for a challenge he has outstanding instead of actually commenting on the topic at hand. This hundred dollar bill is actually there for a purpose to indicate that he’s willing to pay up if someone can proof to him where the Supreme Court has stated that you do not need a drivers license. Because there are some folks out there that think that a drivers license is something that is not necessary and they are free to operate a motor vehicle without such a restriction on their travel.
I rarely see anyone actually comment on the actual purpose behind the one at dollar bill and it bothers me to see so many people who make no valuable contribution in the comments toward the topic but are very keen to simply point out where the $100 bill is.
I could care less where the $100 bill is because I know Steve is correct, and I would rather sit there and enjoy the video and I see all these silly comments pointing out where the $100 bill is and once in a while I decide to reply like I did hear with The statement that I think it’s a little bit silly to be so focused on something that is ultimately not even part of the video really.
So yes, Steve plays the game, but I wish more people would have something substantive to say. Ran over
Ben sticking a leg out, from the shelf end beside LAW4NYC, Steve's LHS
Stuff like this frustrates me to no end, it's almost as bad as that porch pirate I had to deal with by ordering the ark of the convenant off amazon
Still don't know how to get the melted wax stain out of my driveway, but fixed is fixed
5:21 one might argue a different sequence of events in the box was already unbolted and tipped by a dumpster in another theft attempt by someone else.
Right? I just assumed this to be the case but once they admitted it was bolted to the ground it’s like welp… there goes that defense. I’m not a fan of lying of course but this whole situation is weird. Were they high on Nitrous? Was it a bet? Were they really just trying to improve the logistics flow of their EMS organization, what the heck?
Pure Michigan
From the story I would’ve expected Florida.
@@prismblack9631 Michigan is just as bad.
Given the time at which the box was taken, I'd guess that it had recently been emptied, and had little or nothing in it. Surely, if there had been mail in it, that would have been mentioned in the complaint.
That's a good point. If there was no mail in it, it would be hard to file federal charges of mail theft. Then they could only be charged with stealing a metal box.
And the Darwin Award goes to a couple of ems workers! 😂😮😊
I bet dumpsters almost never get stolen lol
They do in Los Angeles
@@halfdeadedlifereturningwit3420by the homeless or rival trash companies? Lol
@@samholdsworth420 Scrappers
@@DrEpicPhD ahh lol
If it is metal, it will be stolen and taken to a scap yard. Cable boxes in my city are missing.
I was blue; they thought it was in respiriatory distress.
I WAS hoping to hear some dirt on my least favorite politicians, but this works
Someone I once knew: "If it's not bolted down, it's mine; if I can pry it loose, it's not bolted down."
This reminds me of Hank and Steve laughing about Walter and Jesse not realizing that barrels actually roll.
The dark green boxes are called "relay boxes" and they still exist in large quantities. You're correct that they're used to temporarily hold mail for either collections or delivery.
Ive never heard the term postal technician before. My neibor is a letter carrier
Must refer to the employees who install and service the blue mail boxes and the green supply /storage boxes
Sanitation Expert and a maintenance engineer.
@@mikecrooks8085cheerleader and athletic supporter.
This is the thing that comes straight from Lloyd and Harry's shenanigans.
In post office terms the green boxes "Not for deposit of mail" are called "relay boxes". As you mentioned walking routes (not many of these now) would reload their mail sacks (carried over the shoulder) so as to not have too heavy a load to carry around. Both these boxes, and the blue ones (which have a deposit door/slot) are opened by a key that mere possession by unauthorized people is a big no-no (crime).
Face it the EMS techs went "postal".
Are they crazy ya don’t mess with the mail!!!!!! I worked as a carpenter/locksmith at a state university and we had housing apartments/dorms etc. The postal service wanted their locks installed on doors to mail rooms to access boxes from behind. I said sure leave the locks and a key and I’ll install and return key. They said no we will have someone with me as I installed them, they sure did. Watched as I did it and as I tried key they were there.
Back in around 1999/2000-ish, don't remember the year exactly, not important. But I saw a tv show about the world's dumbest criminals. And the one I remember most is about a man who was smuggling illicit substances via his suitcase through the airport. He saw the police had been sent in and he also saw the substance sniffing dogs and he panicked and picked up another random suitcase to try not to draw attention to himself. Turns out the suitcase he picked up also had the same kind of illicit substances inside it and he got arrested for smuggling illicit substances.
The fact that some blue steel boxes are worth $1800 is probably the 2nd most insane thing in this story...
In California, it is a bad idea to use collection boxes because they get broken into or stolen frequently. If I have something to mail, I take it inside the Post Office building every time. In the 90s, some of the mail I had sent out was stolen from a collection box .
Saw the title of this video, and I thought it was going to be about politicians.
In Australia there are several laws that deal with this. We even have a law called 'Steal by Finding'. In court all you have to say is that I didn't mean to deprive the owner of his goods and chattels. Then it becomes a vagrancy charge. $100... go away
It's not the box that has me concerned. It what was potentially IN the mailbox.
junk mail
@@BlackJesus8463 Junk mail is what you receive. Those get delivered in bulk to the post office.
One year, I mailed my taxes at one of those boxes by my work, in Troy. Someone lit it on fire.
Never used those things again.
As Bruce Rivers, the criminal lawyer says: Stop self snitching!
I really liked when you said the ambulance has a camera which videoed their entire actions. Guess that could be pretty good evidence.
I talked to a man and he told me his story. He and his friend went to prison for a prank in his youth for stealing a 500lb bike rack. He was out in his car when he was drunk. In an instant, they had this funny idea of stealing a 15ft long heavy steal bike rack. It was a prank, just for fun. They picked it up, lifted it on the roof of the car and drove down main street with it on the top of their roof. Cops are always on main street in small towns. The cops saw them, red lights, they pulled over. Later, they both went to prison for this dumb stunt. I think back to my youth, at that time I had no life experience at all. I had no idea how very serious things can get in an instant. In small towns, these county cops are always out to put you in prison, especially if you are a young adult.
Ben is on edge at the New York tag.
Imagine them getting a call along the way for an emergency and they show up with no room in the ambulance due to the stolen loot. 😄 These guys are pure friggin' geniuses and deserve a promotion - they can decorate their jail cells with images of the box.
$1800! Someone is getting ripped off, oh wait that’s me as a tax payer.
$1800 for something hand made and includes material. Sounds like a decent price. Basically 8 hours labor, including painting, and material (metal, hinges).
These things sit outside and take a beating. Ask grocery stores how much a grocery cart cost. Durable stuff cost, and it’s for good reason.
I've read that the USPS does, sometimes, sell surplus mailboxes. They should have looked into getting one of those instead of stealing one that is in use.
My Dad was a mail carrier for 30 years in Manhattan. The green boxes are absolutely so that trucks can drop bags of sorted mail off mid-route for the carriers to pick up and deliver. They're still used today.
Indeed a Federal offense-a felony, I believe. Once again proving most criminals really aren’t that bright.
I'm Glad an honored to be here to answer all your questions. No I can not answer any questions because it is being investigated. Or I don't have that information for you now, I will get that to you later after we find that pigs can fly.
Ben is sticking out from the LAW4NYC tag Steve's LHS
Stupid criminals make for very funny stories sometimes. My mother, who was a public defender for several years of her career, once heard a story from a colleague about the most foolish client *they* ever had:
He was accused of holding up a McDonald's in broad daylight, in downtown New York City, at lunch hour. There must've been forty people in that place who all saw the robbery happen.
Now, often too many witnesses are just as good for a defendant as no witnesses at all -- they end up disagreeing with each other, and everything gets confused. So it went in this case. When they were interviewed separately, no two witnesses could agree on pretty much anything. He was tall, short, fat, thin, Black, white, Latino, long-haired, shaven-headed... you name it.
There was only one thing they all agreed on, and every single one of them mentioned it unprompted: they said he was wearing a pair of bright gold lamé pants during the robbery.
The client my mom's colleague had to defend was caught four blocks away from the restaurant, carrying $2,000 in a McDonald's bag and *still wearing* the gold lamé pants.
Mom said that her colleague lamented that it would've actually been the perfect alibi. All he had to do was whip round the corner, take off the pants in an alley, drop them into a dumpster and walk away in gym shorts. Nobody would have ever looked twice at him.
As it was, Mom said, her colleague had a hard day defending that dude.
"for personal and decorative purposes" sounds so silly, but I can actually believe that part. Look at all the guys who decorate their garage or mancave with stop, yield and speed limit signs.
Including Steve!! 😀
From what I understand, those boxes are usually keyed alike within an area, so if a key goes missing, now someone potentially has access to all the boxes around. For that reason, I typically will just go to the post office and put my outbound stuff through the slot in the lobby.
Ben by the NY plate to Steve's left
I honestly believe they were that stupid to think it was abandoned.
Theft of Federal property, destruction of mail, and damages > $1,800? They may lose their EMT licenses
"The Two Most Common Elements in the Universe Are Hydrogen and Stupidity." --most often attributed to Harlan Ellison, or perhaps Frank Zappa
the green boxes are called relay boxes and you are correct they are for the carrier on a walking route to place mail for delivery. by the way they are still used today. One thing that is missing from the story is how would they open the door on the hlue mailbox. The mailmen use a key called an arrow key that is unique to each geographical area
I know EMS companies and employees are under incredible stress every day, but this company needs to seriously review its hiring practices.
Sounds like those EMS technicians went full postal 📫
And possibly full frontal.
They need to be working for a NASCAR pit crew. Even in an emergency it takes a minute or two to unload and load the wheeled stretcher, and 99% of the drop boxes I've seen have bolts so rusty that it would take cutting them with a torch to remove them. Getting all 4 bolts out in 3-5 minutes sounds very suspicious unless one of them did it on a previous trip to prep for the theft. Most of the times I have seen the USPS replace a box, they had to pour a new slab with brand new bolts sticking out or drill new holes in the existing slab if big enough.
I remember the days of multiple boxes at each location, one for local mail, one for out of state mail, and you had to put it in the right one or it would come back to your house.
Ben Hundo's on the 2nd shelf, right, to the right of the New York LAW4NYC license plate (straight down from the front wheels of the blue Cobra ragtop)
Now we need a movie, "Gone in 7 minutes!"
One of my clients is an ambulance service and those ambulances when pulled into the garage automatically upload a ton of data. Not just gps data but also braking data and acceleration data, voice recordings, and just everything you can possibly record. And they can get fired or at least blocked from driving if they have too many heavy braking events. They want smooth and safe drivers. So these guys should know that they could be traced.
right out of a Cheech and Chong movie
The really sad part about this is that the PO does dispose of boxes now and then and they can be had if you put your name on a waiting list!!
What a rocket scientist
I really hope they don't do their jobs the same way. "Hey, these kidneys are pretty close to the colon."
I think they honestly thought it was abandoned 😂
This is quite a twist on the aphorism "It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission."
Ben located right side of New York license plate.
Now I’m wondering how often a postal inspector writes a speeding ticket. Like those wildlife officers you spoke about recently. 🤔
These guys should be renamed Harry and Lloyd. To think there's a real life Harry and Lloyd out there🤯
Those two EMS workers must have been sampling the meds in their Ambulances' drug box. Much cheaper to just have a metalworker hand build you one. That way there are no criminal records, court costs, parole officers, and you get to keep your job and your profession.
"Mastermind." 😂😂😂 Reminds me of a line from The Return of the Pink Panther - "Idiot!" (Dreyfuss speaking of Clouseau.) SMH
If only all criminals were this honest.... and stupid.
"He was the mastermind of this operation..." ?!?!?
The most concerning part of this story is that these are EMS technicians, that are to some degree in charge of saving peoples' lives. Tell me that this happened out in the sticks in Alabama, and I might be able to swallow the pill a little bit easier. You might as well watch the video of them doing this with the Dukes of Hazard theme playing in the background.
Right, because Alabama is so much more lawless than NYC to people whose only knowledge of Alabama is a 35 year old show they never watched.
Wow, talk about living your life in stereotypes.
I love your shirt, Steve!
Unless the box was empty, there's theft of mail involved... not just the box, but everything in it.
While not a mail drop box, the similar size book drop box was stolen from a local area rural library near where I live in Louisiana a few years ago, and was never found.