Criticising arrest bid for Netanyahu a 'huge mistake', former ICC prosecutor says • FRANCE 24
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- In an interview with FRANCE 24, former ICC prosecutor Luis Moreno Ocampo reacted to the court's request for arrest warrants over the war in Gaza. The ICC has faced heavy criticism from Israel, the US, Germany and Canada since it announced it was seeking warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and his Defence Minister Yoav Gallant for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Moreno Ocampo called this reaction "disappointing". For him, attacking the ICC prosecutor's decision instead of focusing on the crimes is a "huge mistake".
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When Europe created ICC they clearly meant it for African and Asian leaders not for Western leaders 😂😂.
Well Reality is about the evolution and constant adaptation=change✓
@@mariapadilla7501 Aka "im a racist but im also a proud vatnik so: NO YOU"
Correct, the court is an extension of western patriarchal imperialism
They were surprised when one of their one own was charged with crimes against humanity, clearly they didn't expect that ICC would actually go through with it🤡😂😂
Exactly, 'international law' was never for all. The hypocrisy of the West is clear.
Double standards on showcase shameful.
Bullying judiciary in itself a criminal mindset and condemnable.
The former prosecutor is correct in saying that attacking the prosecutor instead of focusing on the alleged crimes is a huge mistake, it's actually the worst mistake they could make, because it costs them their credibility. You flex your muscles when you have no arguments, I'm pretty sure they teach you that in debate classes.
My same thoughts excatly thank you.
It is because they know they'll lose (at the very least their faces) if they go to trial. Flexing their muscle is to show whether the court can be willing to risk the Bden sanction and withdrawing of financial support. It is not to declare their innocence, it is to declare their control of the politicians of the most powerful superpower.
Without visiting Israel or Palestine how can ICC come up with arrest warrant? It’s Qatari army
Internet shows all crimes unless your blind or deaf
Internet and tvs are transmitting what hamas want you to see, not the reality!!! You are so dumb!!!
This is really gonna make a huge change in the world democracy right now.
Nothing will change until the return
Yes liberal democracy is clearly a failed system alongside republicanism most of monarchies supported icc agaist israel and hamas
@@catrickthecat they always do. Censorship for no reason
Those that didn't sign up to the rome statute appear to be the biggest violators of the same.
Which is exactly the reason why they didn't sign in the first place. They knew that will limit their violations.
Tell that to Putin, he didn't signed... China neither... And many others...Putin is the master mind in all this.... He uses BRICS existance to destroy the West...Russia-Ukraine, hamas/Iran - Israel, China-Taiwan, South Africa, Brazil used to charge the western countries...
There you are, is not so difficult to see who is doing campaigns and taking actions against who...
The US and Israel are one of them
So timing is the issue? Not the crimes?
They are soooooo desperate
A court's job is only to prosecute crime.. not pass moral judgement. So the allegation of 'moral equivalence' is nonsense. Requesting an arrest warrant is simply a procedure necessary to prosecute crime.
It makes zero sense and was possibly the stupidest thing Biden ever said. Tackle it from literally any angle and you will dismantle that claim.
@LaicheeKang-rk7sy Of course.
Why wasn't there an arrest warrant for the leaders of Hamas on October 10th?
@@JuliaMRichter The same reason there are no arrest warrant for Hagana after 1948 Nakba
Wasn’t it lovely that the head of the UN saw fit to pass judgment on Israel two weeks after Oct 7 by lecturing Israel that Oct 7 “did not happen in a vacuum”?
Israel has demolished gaza into a wasteland. Explain that?
Can someone please explain to me again why no European nation including the US wanted these people in their country before during and after WWII????? What did they know that we are now finding out???? 🤔
They are doing a great job.
Listening to the ICC makes a civilised person feel sick
Any news on the remaining hostages?
Yet, Hamas still has the hostages hidden in Gaza and still shooting rockets from there.
Kudos to France and some other Europeans for supporting international law. No one is above the law. Meanwhile the US has lost all credibility with their reaction. Same for the UK and Germany.
France is no supporter of international law. Ask Africa their true nature
Maybe international law should get involve in saving children from legal rape in backward countries.
Maybe afd ruling germany doesnt sound that bad compared to current goverment of germany
@@sunrise1975italiayeah to the uncivilised wastane wold
@@sunrise1975italia USA is famous for rap eing children and underaged. Remember Eipsten and his Island.. How many politicians, billionaires, celebrities enjoyed that island huh!
Germany would not know anything about independence they been kissing so long
Are you talking of West Germany or of East Germany?
Reverse psychology not going to work
East Germany doesn't exist any more. It merged with West Germany over 30 years ago.
If you rule against our adversaries it’s independent , justified and well made. But if you rule against our friend no no it’s unacceptable
The naked double standards of US
Yes I'm from this USA land and I see our government is the problem and honestly I'm almost certain this is the reason for wars from way back in da gap. Back in so called time I mean. WW1 etc
Your mom?
Rules are for the but not for me! Western European
It’s about time.
Long overdue
france and Germany reduced to little players follwing orders
France says it supports the court.
Try again 🤦♂️
France will ICC arrest Netanyahu and putin on French soil
They are like puppies to the Zionists
Germany has actually stated that if the warrant were indeed issued and Netanyahu then turned up in Germany, they would arrest him and hand him over.
Old mate seemed a bit tired but had good points, thanks for an interesting interview! 👍
Well, Putin seems to love the criticism of the ICC. It's almost an endorsement of his actions.
Exactly
Putin still isn't accused of war crimes.
EXACTLY... I think as much as the West attacks the ICC, more international law gets fragile.
Dictatorships and Autocrats are loving this... Basically they will have an excuse to do the most horrific things now on.
Not comparable! Putin's opposioners found themselves poisoned to death or in jail, there is no real system law in Russia.
Israel has the most Independent judicial system, we are the only democracy in the ME.
Terrorists sitting in jail literally get 3 meals per day, an option to study and make degrees, lawyers and reunion meetings, so that's not even comprable!
#ArrestNetanyahu
First all the Islamic terrorists groups.
Arrest you too big mouth
Over dose ?
It's not a mistake ...arrest them for war crimes ....
If the international committee sees Hamas as a terrorist group, why not the world leaders help Israel gather international armies to fight or keep international peace in Gaza? And remove Hamas.
The world must show to netanyahu supporters ,that netanyahu and his defense are not better than those killed by Nato for crime
*_"the court is helping us to recover mental sanity"_* I agree, which is precisely what makes all of the criticism, at the very least, so very sad.
If anyone has contrary view of khan and Amal then he is paid. It is apparent that ICC prosecutors committed a mistake and perhaps were under pressure
You pay for lies but truth. Thus those that accuse Khan and Amal of being paid actually are the ones who got paid to lie.
Defund the ICC
The news host was expecting that guest will speak in favor of Israel and talk against International Law 😂
The ICC has become a joke!
You know you're on to the right track
When the criminals can only attack the court but cannot attack the actual evidence you know he is guilty.
Which evidence? I didn't see any provided by the prosecuter.
@@JuliaMRichter That's alright the court does see it
As does the rest of the world The IDF themselves were pumping out live video broadcasts for a long time gone showing it themselves they were very proud to slaughter the civilians.
For example when they were targeting people running to the UN food truck They broadcast it live as they were shooting them down with machine guns.
@@JuliaMRichter And then you have the stupid people who believe them when they say they were not targeting the civilians
But many of us know that they have the exact same technology we have
They can identify every single individual male female age height
So they know who they are targeting No one is killed there by mistake.
@@JuliaMRichter You can even find some of that video evidence here! on youtube
@@edas1315 I very much daubt it.
What has the ICC done for Armenians in Nagarno Karabakh who had to flee their homes? Nothing! How come no charges were brought against Azerbaijan's President for the refugee crisis he created?
ICC... A sad state of the world
Where was ICC during Vax mandates?
How dangerous that he is saying it was a "mistake" where 45 civilians killed by burning alive! !! How it can be a mistake?
Thanks for that interview, very clear message.
Discussion of facts and their relation to law is what counts. I believe this is what is contained in the ICC accusation. It is the Court, and not the prosecutor, which may then convict or absolve. That is how it should be. Let Israel show up and put forth a factual and legally based argument, and attend to consequence, including full exoneration/condemnation as warranted.
No one recognizes their authority
I support Luis on this. There is no need for the innocent to fear ….
That's what witch hunters used to say.
No one is above the law ....
Just You understand, Israeli authorities at all levels issued an arrest warrant for Hamas after October 7th their capture and search is currently underway! Israel is independent of any International courts system !! Palestinia is underway the International courts system! So this under this case Hamas have both courts system arrest warrant! Have a nice day 😂
2:46 He's absolutely right about the absurdity of saying that the prosecutor should have separated the arrest warrant requests. I said that the moment I heard this straw man argument from Israel and their defenders. Laughable stuff.
Clearly not equal. One is responsible for tens of thousands of innocent deaths.
Yup Hamas
If I was the ICC Judge I would not fly either after all threats
Maybe a helicopter ride
Karim khan rocks. He should be man of the year 2024!
Nobel prize
he is muslim
U are a fooool
@@larryc1616 Nobhead prize
Much respect Luis...🇿🇦 The host was desperately trying to change the direction Luis was going 😂😂
Thank you, Luis Moreno Ocampo, for your integrity.
Thanks to the ICC chief prosecuter & interviewer. A saying in Ireland , "Never lose the head in the heat of the hunt".
Israel, Hamus 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Someone from Washington against icc as if that is new lol
Sovereign countries Vs e.u. lackies pffft
Smart man!!
they sanction them, cause it doesn't fall inline with their interests
The best for him if he don't want to stay in jail very simple give the land of Palestine and recognize as a Palestinian state hood. Simple.
there's people with sense in the world. Drunk by power, and you started doing insanity.
because keeping low civilian casualties is almost impossible without giant loss of soldiers.
- Karim Ahmad Khan member of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. Khan's father, was born in Pakistan. First married to the daughter of the fourth caliph of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. (Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
Not supporting the ICJ and the ICC means that you endorse impunity and lawlessness.
ICC ~ jumped up e.u. lackies kangaroo court, with Zero jurisdiction over sovereign countries. Who do you imagine is going to enforce any "warrants"?
ICC is correct.
I can't follow this fellow's reasoning. Israel doesn't recognize the ICC, so there's no reason for Netanyahu to cooperate with it. Nothing will happen anyway, since politics will trump any legal concerns.
After Gaza and the blatant disregard for example to the UN, ICJ, ICC, UNHRC, UNICEF, UNRWA and UNSC the Western Countries demolished the "Rule Based Order" and "International Humanitarian Law." I hope Israel is worth that for them…
I thank these people for doing something to try to stop this massacre of mainly children that has been attempted to be covered up, lied about and disguised as a war. Otherwise this would go on and on without people recognizing it for what it is!
He is an American. Who has no knOwledge of judgement.Shame on him.
Whos going to get Hamas to go to court? Has anyone ask what Hamas thinks about all this?
Mistake? Like maybe the people should be supressed?
Push arrest warrant more on Pm Netanyahu because he's Jew. Why no warning to the billionaire hamad leaders to heed ICC rulings? Why no tracking down on Sinwar to face the music? This guest's keep blinking. Why? Lies? All paid?
Title is confusing. Former ICC prosecutor approves the warrant and defends the current prosecutor. Critics of prosecutor is a huge mistake, arrest bid is not a mistake (it is the opposite!).
The title is fine, I understood it immediately, without even watching the video.
Approves also means supports thus the title is correct.
it’s quite refreshing to hear an intelligent non partisan take on what has become a huge he said ahead of said mess. the ICC is ok going after Russian President or African tin pot rulers… just shows how one sided this world really is. all we all want is peace - get on with our lives.
I'm almost sure most ppl in the comments have not read the title correctly or even watched the video... Comments are all over the place, filled with engrish, they don't even look like comments for this video. Y'all look like bots.
...lol😅 you're the only one reading and watching
The people just don't get it. This is nobody's business but Israel God is in control
Death toll of the people who starved to death in the Gaza? You know, EVIDENCE. Hint: So few the prosecutor could not use them because they reveal his charges are a sham.
Its only the war criminals making the most noise!
Oh shame making big noise big mouth
Was this Argentine not the same guy who could not prosecute George Bush and Tony Blair for what they did in Iraq?
Arrest Netanyahu and galant
Ocampo.....eloquently with appropriated defined the seperate individual crimes committed and pushed the word salad aside.
Totally now has become a icc comody shoe 😅😅😅
Lock 🔐 Putin and Netanyahu up 😂😂😂😂😂!!!!!
Europe should not follow US opinion. 👍🏼
Lock him up!
circus
How dare they criticise
Israel was commiting crimes since 1948 in Palestine (despite all the cirmes around the world, like Russia, Germany, England, etc)
I think the ICC could have first issued arrest request against HAMAS leaders just when the October 7 incident happened with proof.
Secondly the issue of Bibi and Defense minister request to arrest them now could have been justified properly.
But matter is.... ICC issuing the arrest request at the SAME TIME for both parties. Why wait this long for HAMAS ? I can not understand why did ICC wait for HAMAS?
The Philippines suffering so much from china as well civil war in Sudan but UN speak nothing !
The US needs to stay out of the ICC business. The ICC is doing important work and more importantly getting justice for everyone in the region.
ICC ~ jumped up e.u. lackies kangaroo court, with Zero jurisdiction over sovereign countries. Who do you imagine is going to enforce any "warrants"?
this is so important
So the ICC boss is KARIM KHAN, I wonder
Very interesting perspective.
🙄No Excuse for involving or hurting unrelated people. ICC leads the way in higher standards.
who someone is angry that mean is guilty....
Moreno never said that that the bid to arrest was a big mistake, but that the criticism of the prosecutor was a big mistake. DW always promoting misinformation!
Ok for Putin not for Netanyahu 😅😅😅😅 ....
This guy is a sellout..he does not deserve an interview. His take is biased
Thanks man 🙏
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I think this is one of the incompetent and arrogant person I have ever seen
Read the Wikipedia page for Moreno Ocampo. Then tell us ALL about his 'incompetence'.
END OF ICC
I think this gentleman is in denial. Khan quite clearly did draw some sort of equivalence, he even suggested the warrants were being sought in relation to the same underlying principles. We all heard this, and can play back prosecutor Khan clearly stating it.
Criticising arrest bid for Netanyahu a 'huge mistake', former ICC prosecutor says ?? I Really thought the man criticized the ICC bid, I have not heard a single word of critisizem. this really looks like to a bid of France 24 to create doubt among the public
So what is meaning of WAR?
How do Israel responsible for starvation of Palestinian
What ya gonna do about it buddy?
Netanyahu and Putin 👊are now are close friends
Obviously, there is no moral equivalence. Simultaneity is not equivalence, except for a very feeble mind.
So if Netanyahu goes to a prosecutor and says investigate me.. that would have stopped ICJ!
Would the appointed Prosecutor look at the evidence first? I'm sure anyone, even those with no legal background would say yes!
But isn't that exactly what ICJ did not do?
Did not go to thoroughly verify the facts on the ground? He did not show up !
Imagine a prosecutor making a judgement without visiting a crime scene!
In the case of Gaza, start with the opinion that both sides could be lying.
Then thoroughly investigate and then only make a judgement.
You seem not to understand what's going on here. A warrant of arrest is not judgment!! It is issued to ensure that the accused is brought to trial. The evidence is produced during the trial where the accused gets the opportunity to defend himself and produce counter-evidence
As of now, the warrant has not yet been issued. The court has simply requested it. It's up to the judges to decide whether the warrant should be issued or not, based on the arguments presented by the prosecutor.