I like the HD collections as they are released on modern consoles. They even added some features that weren't in the original, but it doesn't detract from the experience. Which is honestly what i ask, since I would like to play how they released it. If I wanted all the QoL, I would play Untold
My opinion on the QoL features is that they should just add all of them and make them optional. Even if the game is balanced for no floor skips, no redos, no nothing, it's still likely to beat up on newcomers to old school dungeon crawlers with all assists on.
@@SnakebitSTI That's what makes it great. It's hard in the beginning but it levels as you gain more levels and unlocking moves. And tbh, you can make any build and progress the game relatively difficult. Except in EO2. Where I unlocked the Ronin's ultimate weapon early and six slashed the boss to death. On both phases.
@@sampletext9426funny enough, if we would have gotten untold 3, the collection today would have been the untold trilogy instead of HD remasters. Makes me salty, tbh
@@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 fr. Atlus please. And if you're gonna port the first three games, what about the next 3 games? The 3ds is basically discontinued
Thank you so much for making this video!!! I really want to get into the series but was having a very hard time choosing which version but now I’m definitely hunting down a copy of The Millennium Girl and going from there. Super excited to begin this journey and it’s all thanks to you!!
I think it’s very harmful to say “just play the third”. I started playing from the first one and I got so much into the series. Currently playing the second part
@filipoo78 I would say if starting with the switch trilogy start with the third, if your really love it go for the first 2 on the switch afterwards also with the new picnic difficulty the more niche knowledge based quirks of the first 2 don't really matter as much because it's nowhere near as difficult as it was originally
Brilliant video. I get so paused when choosing where to start in a game series. The DS vs 3DS definitely gave me a brain niggle. I'll play Untold Millenium first though, thanks so much!
I started by playing through Eo3 100% (all items, all chests, all fish,...) Then I played Eo1 100% Now I'm 80 hours into 100%ing eo2. What a collection. Even better than they were back in the day. I think I'm just gonna 100% all the 3ds titles afterwards... Once again....
Do it! I'd recommend playing the story modes for the Untold games for a different experience! Plus also the Etrian games on the 3DS look beautiful! Thanks for watching!
Hey, it's cool you're enjoying the games so much. I played Untold first, didn't finish it. Now I want to finish EO1, 2, 3 and then Untold. What's your favorite of them all?
Thanks for confirming the lack of 3DS features, that was one of the first things I noticed lacking in the trailers Damn shame, because the 3DS soundtracks alone are worth tracking a copy down because they go absurdly hard along with the other great touches. For anyone curious on what to look for I'd say look for 2 Untold, 1 Untold, Nexus, 4, and then 5
Never played these games Milla but am familiar with them to some degree. Thanks for this wonderful overview. Delighted the video has done well for you. Your channel is excellent. Keep up the great work.
On $80 being a rip-off.... I just finished EO2HD to the 5th stratum. Took just under 50hours. I've decided to take another stab at it with a new part for the post-game, so restarting, guessing I'll breeze through it this time and get there in 30 hours. Then the post game should take at least 30 hours. That's 80-110 hours with this game alone. I will play III, as it's one of the best in the series, so let's say 80 hours more there. Then let's say I dabble with the first one, don't finish but goof around for another 20 hours. That's over 200 hours of play time. How is that not worth $80? Very few games, even the big $60 AAA games, I almost never get 100+ hours. I'm getting at least double that here. Price per hour, it's not bad at all.
I can see where you're coming from, as value is subjective. For me, the Japanese / Asian releases being cheaper than the western digital release (even with the bundle) is the major deciding factor. I'd say it's worth importing the Southeast Asian physical copy (which cost closer to 80 on top of shipping iirc) because it's physical and was being sold for less than in the west. I'd rather spend extra on shipping and customs than pay extra to a publisher overcharging for an inferior digital release, although i see why people won't want to do that. 20 USD each (with a 40-50USD bundle) would've been much more reasonable for the digital only Western release, however ATLUS are charging us more for less. That's why it's too expensive. They're not the only company doing it either. Either way, there will be sales on this pack in the future so people will be able to get them for cheap in time :)
"rip off" might be a bit strong, but even as a super-fan of the entire series I was raising my eyebrows at $40/game (or "only" $27 each if you buy all 3 at once) for some up-res'd assets and some (but not all) of the QoL features found in EO3/4/Untold. I paid it, of course (superfan stupidity, ho!), but as a newcomer it's a bit of a tall ask. It's like they knew that the people most interested in the collection would be willing to pay the "support Atlus/more EO games in the future" tax, but if you're new to dungeon crawlers and don't know if you'll like them, $40/$80 dollars for decade-old DS game(s) with slightly prettier visuals is a tough sell.
if you never get 100+ hours in games, that's got more to do with your selection. Personally, price-to-hours is a weird rating system. There are plenty of games i've had more than 200 hours in that i wouldn't pay 80 (or even 50) dollars for
Now.... I'd say the best place to start the series depends on a few things... You start with EO1 (either DS or Switch/PC) to get the most core version of Etrian Odyssey. You go for Untold 1 or 2 if you prefer a proper story. You go for EO5 if you want the most convenience. But I would recommend EO3 if you want the best that Etrian Odyssey has to offer.
I wouldn't really call the messy stories in Untold 1/2 "proper". I don't really understand why people need a story in all their games even they totally suck. The more minimal framing stories in EO1/2 were much better written/executed/
@calebwilson495 i dont really understand why people like you feel that their opinions are facts, they aren't. Just because you think the Untold story is worse, does not mean most people agree. Stop acting like your opinion is the only one that matters. The story of Untold for me personally was way less messy and far more engaging than EO1. I would never recommend the first two EO games to anyone except a very big fan
Out of curiosity, why not mention the grimoire stones? They're one of the largest differences between the Vanilla and Untold games, and they're about as polarizing as the remake's price point.
@@NovanityHB Regardless of if the stones are just 100% side content you can turn a blind eye to, it's still THERE and I'm curious why the review didn't even mention them. But also, wasn't the game rebalance somewhat around the player having access to this new source of power? If they inform game balance then they still impact your play, even if you choose to avoid them.
@@colinthies3178 the game was mostly rebalanced around the fact that the originals had a few busted skills in some classes that completely invalidated the need for others. If anything, I find the inclusion of an optional system that allows for greater flexibility is only a positive. Now, whether interacting with that system is fulfilling or feels good is up for debate, but I'd rather have access to a bonus system that's mediocre than not have it at all
@@NovanityHB Yeah, that's totes fair~ I can understand where you're coming from and actually feel similarly in that regard. When I asked why the review didn't mention them I didn't ask critically or with animosity, it just genuinely seemed odd to me that such a notable point of comparison wasn't mentioned.
@@colinthies3178 yeah, sorry, got sidetracked mentally, I do actually agree on that point. It would've been nice to see mention of the balancing changes and more of the newer features and QoL changes
Watching the video, I disagree on floor jumping. Yes, it makes the game easier and quicker but you have Ariadne threads already to leave and plenty of geo spots and can start in any stratum you've cleared. Some of the difficulty is the journey and floor jump bypasses that entirely.
Floor jumping is an accessibility feature, hence why i believe it should be an option. It's entirely optional in games where it's a thing, and that is what's important. And thank you for your comments! I appreciate the perspectives and discussion :)
@@millasgameroom Floor Jumping was an experiment they tried in the Untold games (where it was broken to hell and back) and finally more-or-less got right by the time 5 and Nexus rolled around. On paper, the idea is great - less time spent backtracking to previously cleared floors is good, right? - but in practice it broke the game balance in half (again, in the Untold remakes specifically) by invalidating half the FOE puzzles, rendering most of the Exploration skills irrelevant, and obsolete-ing Ariadne Threads the vast majority of the time. Since this team apparently decided that any QoL feature found after EO4 was "too new" for the HD original trilogy, that means there's at least 2 reasons (one understandable, one not so much) why it was left out of the HD Collection.
@@Darkkfated Meh - i feel like EO1 didn't have the type of hazards or FOE placement where that broke any sort of balance. Other than some 2nd stratum shenanigans, i cant really see where that complaint comes from. It certainly wouldn't make a difference in EO4. Now EO3...
I would have been happy with the collection if Untold 1 and 2 where in the mix. To me they are just better than vanilla unless someone is very nostalgia driven and blinded
Since you mentioned a survey, there was actually a survey invitation+access code on the inside of the Asian Switch remaster case (the 'enquete' URL), though it looks like it closed in September.
I want to buy one tonight (Switch sale). Get a strong vibe EO 3 is the best one. I own a 3DS though Ebay sellers want between 60-100$ for Untold 2 supposedly the best one. Btw half of Ebay (video game) sellers are delusional
of the three DS originals, EO3 is the best one. yeah unfortunately prices for 3DS games are quite high atm due to the shop closure, might be worth waiting a few years to get it physically? thanks for watching :)
I've never played any of these games and am looking for where to start, so this video was very helpful. there is one thing I'm a little confused about, do only the untold games have a plot and all the others are sandbox? how do RPGs work without a narrative? what are the point/goals of the game?
Its a dungeoncrawler, its not about the story, its more like a big puzzle. Every floor is a puzzle and every enemy is a puzzle, if you don't build a proper team you might get killed in just a few turns. Its for people who like fiddeling around with builds
Alongside what Noahkaa said, the Untold story modes were also an experimental feature ATLUS did for the remakes. There are classic modes in the Untold games to cater to those who don't like stories in their games.
I will say for untold, the story mode is the reason to play, classic to my knowledge has the massive problem of being story mode but without anything that was added for it... but with any changes to old stuff for balanceing story mode the same, especially bad in 2 sense bosses had more HP so the protagonist class wouldn't tear them to peaces, and they still have that extra HP in classic were you don't get that class, still great for story mode, but if you want classic I'd recommend HD for the bugs it did fix from the OG
There's actually something I must mention about emulating the originals... The graphics and mapping DO NOT translate well. You might think that the using a mouse with an emulated version is the same as with the PC version of the HD remake, but it's not. The HD version is much smoother to work with and the larger screen makes it easier to use your mouse. And that is on top of the fact your mouse doubles as control in all other menus too. So yes, you can emulate them, but that was exactly why I was worried whether the PC port would actually work well.
I own 2U, but I opted out of getting 1U since I hear it makes some questionable changes to the story with its story mode, notably putting end-game plot points in the original early into the game for some reason, so hopefully it's better to play the HD remaster over Untold, especially since I need it to play 3 anyway (I mean, I *could* emulate the original, but the QoL stuff is probably a good thing to have), cause I imagine hunting down an affordable copy of 1U would be hell. Lol.
i got intrigue when i saw the HD remaster is coming to steam so I watched some youtube vids on what is the gameplay the gameplay reminds me of Class of Heroes which made me want to buy the all of the HD remaster games of Etrian Odyssey
I didn't like Untold 1 at all, and skipped Untold 2 because I didn't like vanilla 2, but seeing the changes in Untold 2, I might have actually liked that. So frankly I'd say the PC version of these remasters is the definitive version for 1 and 3. Untold 1's gameplay changes are too vast and mostly make the game worse, with no way to turn them off, so that ruins the fun of the original. And the remaster of 3 is the same game, but prettier and with a lot of accessibility features. The remaster of 2 definitely feels like an improvement over the original, but it doesn't change what I dislike about the game (nor should it, if it's going to be faithful to the original like the others are) so I wouldn't say "don't bother with 2," especially when you can get the whole trilogy for the same price as buying 1 and 3. But all told, this remaster collection is the best way to jump in if you get it on PC. I play them using a controller for all the movement stuff, and my mouse to do the mapping, and I genuinely prefer it to the mapping on the DS originals.
Untold 1/2 are basically different games and can't really replace 1-2. If you like messy stories, I guess you can play them. Also, the new grimoire system totally sucks so classic mode is kinda ruined. I don't see the appeal of Untold at all.
@@AbelMusaAnyone can play at any point in the series. If anything, Now with the HD release, It's okay to start at the first game as they hold up pretty well. And if some struggles, there are plenty of guides to help.
I remember being absolutely in love with Etrian Odyssey Millennium Girl, it was my first entry to the series and I quite liked the difficulty
I like the HD collections as they are released on modern consoles. They even added some features that weren't in the original, but it doesn't detract from the experience. Which is honestly what i ask, since I would like to play how they released it. If I wanted all the QoL, I would play Untold
man suffered depression with no EO3U
My opinion on the QoL features is that they should just add all of them and make them optional. Even if the game is balanced for no floor skips, no redos, no nothing, it's still likely to beat up on newcomers to old school dungeon crawlers with all assists on.
@@SnakebitSTI That's what makes it great. It's hard in the beginning but it levels as you gain more levels and unlocking moves. And tbh, you can make any build and progress the game relatively difficult.
Except in EO2. Where I unlocked the Ronin's ultimate weapon early and six slashed the boss to death. On both phases.
@@sampletext9426funny enough, if we would have gotten untold 3, the collection today would have been the untold trilogy instead of HD remasters. Makes me salty, tbh
@@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 fr. Atlus please. And if you're gonna port the first three games, what about the next 3 games? The 3ds is basically discontinued
Thank you so much for making this video!!! I really want to get into the series but was having a very hard time choosing which version but now I’m definitely hunting down a copy of The Millennium Girl and going from there. Super excited to begin this journey and it’s all thanks to you!!
You're very welcome, hope you enjoy it!
@@millasgameroom I started playing it 2 days ago and I have been loving it sooo much!!! Once again thank you!!
I think it’s very harmful to say “just play the third”. I started playing from the first one and I got so much into the series. Currently playing the second part
@filipoo78 I would say if starting with the switch trilogy start with the third, if your really love it go for the first 2 on the switch afterwards also with the new picnic difficulty the more niche knowledge based quirks of the first 2 don't really matter as much because it's nowhere near as difficult as it was originally
Thanks for the comprehensive breakdown! ^^
Brilliant video. I get so paused when choosing where to start in a game series. The DS vs 3DS definitely gave me a brain niggle. I'll play Untold Millenium first though, thanks so much!
I started by playing through Eo3 100% (all items, all chests, all fish,...)
Then I played Eo1 100%
Now I'm 80 hours into 100%ing eo2.
What a collection. Even better than they were back in the day.
I think I'm just gonna 100% all the 3ds titles afterwards... Once again....
Do it! I'd recommend playing the story modes for the Untold games for a different experience! Plus also the Etrian games on the 3DS look beautiful! Thanks for watching!
Hey, it's cool you're enjoying the games so much. I played Untold first, didn't finish it. Now I want to finish EO1, 2, 3 and then Untold. What's your favorite of them all?
3=4 > U2 > 5 > 2=1 > U1 > nexus
Go for 3 if you like the more classic, restrained approach. Go for 4 if you prefer a more modern and open formula.
They're both fantastic.
Thank you kind person. I will try that.@@Kawaiilolrofl
Thanks for confirming the lack of 3DS features, that was one of the first things I noticed lacking in the trailers
Damn shame, because the 3DS soundtracks alone are worth tracking a copy down because they go absurdly hard along with the other great touches. For anyone curious on what to look for I'd say look for 2 Untold, 1 Untold, Nexus, 4, and then 5
Never played these games Milla but am familiar with them to some degree.
Thanks for this wonderful overview. Delighted the video has done well for you. Your channel is excellent. Keep up the great work.
Thank you so much Shinra! 😊
On $80 being a rip-off....
I just finished EO2HD to the 5th stratum. Took just under 50hours. I've decided to take another stab at it with a new part for the post-game, so restarting, guessing I'll breeze through it this time and get there in 30 hours. Then the post game should take at least 30 hours. That's 80-110 hours with this game alone. I will play III, as it's one of the best in the series, so let's say 80 hours more there. Then let's say I dabble with the first one, don't finish but goof around for another 20 hours. That's over 200 hours of play time. How is that not worth $80? Very few games, even the big $60 AAA games, I almost never get 100+ hours. I'm getting at least double that here. Price per hour, it's not bad at all.
I can see where you're coming from, as value is subjective.
For me, the Japanese / Asian releases being cheaper than the western digital release (even with the bundle) is the major deciding factor. I'd say it's worth importing the Southeast Asian physical copy (which cost closer to 80 on top of shipping iirc) because it's physical and was being sold for less than in the west. I'd rather spend extra on shipping and customs than pay extra to a publisher overcharging for an inferior digital release, although i see why people won't want to do that.
20 USD each (with a 40-50USD bundle) would've been much more reasonable for the digital only Western release, however ATLUS are charging us more for less. That's why it's too expensive. They're not the only company doing it either.
Either way, there will be sales on this pack in the future so people will be able to get them for cheap in time :)
"rip off" might be a bit strong, but even as a super-fan of the entire series I was raising my eyebrows at $40/game (or "only" $27 each if you buy all 3 at once) for some up-res'd assets and some (but not all) of the QoL features found in EO3/4/Untold.
I paid it, of course (superfan stupidity, ho!), but as a newcomer it's a bit of a tall ask. It's like they knew that the people most interested in the collection would be willing to pay the "support Atlus/more EO games in the future" tax, but if you're new to dungeon crawlers and don't know if you'll like them, $40/$80 dollars for decade-old DS game(s) with slightly prettier visuals is a tough sell.
if you never get 100+ hours in games, that's got more to do with your selection. Personally, price-to-hours is a weird rating system. There are plenty of games i've had more than 200 hours in that i wouldn't pay 80 (or even 50) dollars for
I really thought they would have at least added the voices from the Untold versions. Those really made the game come alive.
I got the physical collection for 60 dollar in Japan so it’s pretty much worth it for me.
Now.... I'd say the best place to start the series depends on a few things...
You start with EO1 (either DS or Switch/PC) to get the most core version of Etrian Odyssey.
You go for Untold 1 or 2 if you prefer a proper story.
You go for EO5 if you want the most convenience.
But I would recommend EO3 if you want the best that Etrian Odyssey has to offer.
I wouldn't really call the messy stories in Untold 1/2 "proper". I don't really understand why people need a story in all their games even they totally suck. The more minimal framing stories in EO1/2 were much better written/executed/
@calebwilson495 i dont really understand why people like you feel that their opinions are facts, they aren't. Just because you think the Untold story is worse, does not mean most people agree. Stop acting like your opinion is the only one that matters.
The story of Untold for me personally was way less messy and far more engaging than EO1. I would never recommend the first two EO games to anyone except a very big fan
4 is also just a good starting point if you don't have much experience with the genre. That's how I went about it, anyway.
Out of curiosity, why not mention the grimoire stones?
They're one of the largest differences between the Vanilla and Untold games, and they're about as polarizing as the remake's price point.
I was under the impression that they're an entirely optional system (aside from any tutorial bits on how to use them)
@@NovanityHB
Regardless of if the stones are just 100% side content you can turn a blind eye to, it's still THERE and I'm curious why the review didn't even mention them.
But also, wasn't the game rebalance somewhat around the player having access to this new source of power? If they inform game balance then they still impact your play, even if you choose to avoid them.
@@colinthies3178 the game was mostly rebalanced around the fact that the originals had a few busted skills in some classes that completely invalidated the need for others. If anything, I find the inclusion of an optional system that allows for greater flexibility is only a positive. Now, whether interacting with that system is fulfilling or feels good is up for debate, but I'd rather have access to a bonus system that's mediocre than not have it at all
@@NovanityHB Yeah, that's totes fair~
I can understand where you're coming from and actually feel similarly in that regard.
When I asked why the review didn't mention them I didn't ask critically or with animosity, it just genuinely seemed odd to me that such a notable point of comparison wasn't mentioned.
@@colinthies3178 yeah, sorry, got sidetracked mentally, I do actually agree on that point. It would've been nice to see mention of the balancing changes and more of the newer features and QoL changes
Watching the video, I disagree on floor jumping. Yes, it makes the game easier and quicker but you have Ariadne threads already to leave and plenty of geo spots and can start in any stratum you've cleared. Some of the difficulty is the journey and floor jump bypasses that entirely.
Floor jumping is an accessibility feature, hence why i believe it should be an option. It's entirely optional in games where it's a thing, and that is what's important.
And thank you for your comments! I appreciate the perspectives and discussion :)
@@millasgameroom Floor Jumping was an experiment they tried in the Untold games (where it was broken to hell and back) and finally more-or-less got right by the time 5 and Nexus rolled around. On paper, the idea is great - less time spent backtracking to previously cleared floors is good, right? - but in practice it broke the game balance in half (again, in the Untold remakes specifically) by invalidating half the FOE puzzles, rendering most of the Exploration skills irrelevant, and obsolete-ing Ariadne Threads the vast majority of the time.
Since this team apparently decided that any QoL feature found after EO4 was "too new" for the HD original trilogy, that means there's at least 2 reasons (one understandable, one not so much) why it was left out of the HD Collection.
@@Darkkfated i see, thanks for explaining :)
@@Darkkfated Meh - i feel like EO1 didn't have the type of hazards or FOE placement where that broke any sort of balance. Other than some 2nd stratum shenanigans, i cant really see where that complaint comes from. It certainly wouldn't make a difference in EO4. Now EO3...
i just love how more people can play it now. i remembered this instantly. im gonna stream it too
While not the best, drawing with a mouse is a lot better than using a controller. So ironically it works really well with mouse and keyboard.
以前從來沒接觸過DRPG 這次重制版讓我對遊戲的認知又刷新了 古老的機制現代的優化 最純粹的冒險遊戲體驗 期待後續的重制版
I would have been happy with the collection if Untold 1 and 2 where in the mix. To me they are just better than vanilla unless someone is very nostalgia driven and blinded
I agree. Hopefully ATLUS remaster the Untold remakes too one of these days. Thanks for watching!
Since you mentioned a survey, there was actually a survey invitation+access code on the inside of the Asian Switch remaster case (the 'enquete' URL), though it looks like it closed in September.
Very helpful video!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
I want to buy one tonight (Switch sale). Get a strong vibe EO 3 is the best one. I own a 3DS though Ebay sellers want between 60-100$ for Untold 2 supposedly the best one. Btw half of Ebay (video game) sellers are delusional
of the three DS originals, EO3 is the best one. yeah unfortunately prices for 3DS games are quite high atm due to the shop closure, might be worth waiting a few years to get it physically? thanks for watching :)
I've never played any of these games and am looking for where to start, so this video was very helpful.
there is one thing I'm a little confused about, do only the untold games have a plot and all the others are sandbox?
how do RPGs work without a narrative? what are the point/goals of the game?
Its a dungeoncrawler, its not about the story, its more like a big puzzle. Every floor is a puzzle and every enemy is a puzzle, if you don't build a proper team you might get killed in just a few turns.
Its for people who like fiddeling around with builds
Alongside what Noahkaa said, the Untold story modes were also an experimental feature ATLUS did for the remakes. There are classic modes in the Untold games to cater to those who don't like stories in their games.
I will say for untold, the story mode is the reason to play, classic to my knowledge has the massive problem of being story mode but without anything that was added for it... but with any changes to old stuff for balanceing story mode the same, especially bad in 2 sense bosses had more HP so the protagonist class wouldn't tear them to peaces, and they still have that extra HP in classic were you don't get that class, still great for story mode, but if you want classic I'd recommend HD for the bugs it did fix from the OG
There's actually something I must mention about emulating the originals... The graphics and mapping DO NOT translate well. You might think that the using a mouse with an emulated version is the same as with the PC version of the HD remake, but it's not. The HD version is much smoother to work with and the larger screen makes it easier to use your mouse. And that is on top of the fact your mouse doubles as control in all other menus too.
So yes, you can emulate them, but that was exactly why I was worried whether the PC port would actually work well.
My problem with emulation is in games like 3, the graphics take a sharp downgrade that looks quite awful!
@@ralphbeez1411 oh, yeah... Especially the first dungeon starts to look like a wild mish-mash of colours...
Now on sale for 40€ on Steam...share a lot guys!!
I own 2U, but I opted out of getting 1U since I hear it makes some questionable changes to the story with its story mode, notably putting end-game plot points in the original early into the game for some reason, so hopefully it's better to play the HD remaster over Untold, especially since I need it to play 3 anyway (I mean, I *could* emulate the original, but the QoL stuff is probably a good thing to have), cause I imagine hunting down an affordable copy of 1U would be hell. Lol.
i got intrigue when i saw the HD remaster is coming to steam so I watched some youtube vids on what is the gameplay
the gameplay reminds me of Class of Heroes which made me want to buy the all of the HD remaster games of Etrian Odyssey
I didn't like Untold 1 at all, and skipped Untold 2 because I didn't like vanilla 2, but seeing the changes in Untold 2, I might have actually liked that. So frankly I'd say the PC version of these remasters is the definitive version for 1 and 3. Untold 1's gameplay changes are too vast and mostly make the game worse, with no way to turn them off, so that ruins the fun of the original. And the remaster of 3 is the same game, but prettier and with a lot of accessibility features.
The remaster of 2 definitely feels like an improvement over the original, but it doesn't change what I dislike about the game (nor should it, if it's going to be faithful to the original like the others are) so I wouldn't say "don't bother with 2," especially when you can get the whole trilogy for the same price as buying 1 and 3. But all told, this remaster collection is the best way to jump in if you get it on PC. I play them using a controller for all the movement stuff, and my mouse to do the mapping, and I genuinely prefer it to the mapping on the DS originals.
I'm gonna play... all of them >:3
Untold 1/2 are basically different games and can't really replace 1-2. If you like messy stories, I guess you can play them. Also, the new grimoire system totally sucks so classic mode is kinda ruined. I don't see the appeal of Untold at all.
I hope they remaster 4 too, eventually
Exactly the video I needed!
English VO only is a positive. Nexus needs English VO.
Only? I much prefer subbed content. Nothing wrong with preferring that.
Play 3, leave 1 & 2 to the masochists. There's 0 reason to go back to those unless you're a massive fan.
???
Etrian Odyssey 1 and 2 are perfectly fine games.
@@JohnGaming55 I wouldn't recommend them over any of the other entries in the series. As I said, you must be a fan.
I finished EO1 in less than 50 hours and I just struggled on the first two floors, thats the normal and the other games were normal as hell
@@AbelMusaAnyone can play at any point in the series. If anything, Now with the HD release, It's okay to start at the first game as they hold up pretty well. And if some struggles, there are plenty of guides to help.
@@AbelMusaEtrian Odyssey 1 and 2 were my fourth and fifth games in the series.
These games belong in the TRASH.