Another awesome presentation, however, the over use of fancy graphic effects and sounds are detracting from the quality of your knowledge and work. Less is more as they say unless your considering a career change with Pixar Animation Studios 😊
Another fascinating case from this fantastic channel! I do believe that some people deserve to die for their crimes but I would never vote for the death penalty as mistakes would be bound to be made and it would be tragic if an innocent person were put to death.
You're really finding your footing on TH-cam. I appreciate the better video and audio quality. The sound effects are a bit much & repetitive. But you've come a long way!
@@APsychForSoreMinds haha. They're doing a great job. Just a few tweaks. I know personally TH-cam is a lot of trial and error. It's a forever learning process.
No Capital Punishment for me, it's an unethical. I work in a World Heritage Listed Prison, (Decommissioned), a young man was sentenced to death there in 1961, he was then commuted to a Life Sentence. He served 15 years before being fully exonerated of the crime. Herein lies another problem with the Death Penalty... The chance of making mistakes.
Hi Dr. Das, Hope you had a fun Crime Com !!! Very well done video as always. #1" Expiration dates are for whimps"! LOL This is just an opinion. Just one side of a big question. The question I think you asked was , "do you believe in the death penalty with or without special circumstances? ( special circumstances such as Intellectual disability or Insane) It is a moral dilemma for me. I absolutely believe in the death penalty. The more heinous the crime and absolute certainty of guilt the chances the death penalty should be used. I do not believe in uncertainty of guilt and use of the death penalty. Such as, " Tim was the last person to see Skipper alive" Tim did it ! I just know he did it ! Who else could have done it? " "That is not enough. "(Please ignore my poor spelling) What do you with John S ? He murders three very young girls and he has an Intellectual deficiency of 64 ? (Intellectual deficiency of 64 is a special circumstance in the USA.) At 17 his intellectual abilities were equal to a 10 year old . John had problems from early childhood. He came from a stable family with married parents with mom and dad living in the home with him. I could not find any paper that said if his parents really interacted with John. oldpsychiatrist sent to live in a residential home for the intellectually disabled in order to help John adapt and be able to function in society. He grew up in these facilities. They taught him right from wrong if they didn't they would not have said he did not like corrections. A correction(He is doing wrong then ,corrected and shown the correct behavior) ( Who the Hell likes a correction?) ( A correction is like the stupid terminology of "constructive criticism ".) (Let me tell you "criticism is criticism is criticism is criticism etc...) (Just like when people ask: What is the difference between sea salt and salt? The price... Duh !) dilemma : John lacked many attributes that are ascribed to an ordinary moral agent: 1. He lacked the ability to empathize with others. 2. He seemed to not understand between conventional and moral rules and 3. he tended not to learn from errors in a way other people do. These attributes tend to give people the ability to commit anti-social acts remorselessly. His only regards he had were for his own needs. Did John present an Intellectual capacity for ordinary or moral reasoning? burglary and stealing. whenand I really would like to weigh all aspects of the crimes for as fair a decision on the death penalty, but I just don't have the information." So, who cares about an unbiased opinion anyway." LOL ( The USA's Flying Monkey Hilary Clinton said ,and I quote "Why let facts mess up your opinions ". ) LOL Can you hold John who is devoid of morality (because of his) Intellectual deficiency and his inability to adapt socially is so extreme he should be excused him from responsibly of the murders? I do know. What I think is he had enough conventual rules taught to know the difference between right and wrong you don't need morality to follow the conventual rule " do not commit murder. " The three young girls were given the death penalty , so let's see what heinous crimes they committed. July 1951, 1st murdered girl Brenda Goddard, 5. She was picking flowers in her front yard when John walks up and says he can show her where she can gets better flowers. So, they move off to the back yard to a copse where he lifts her over a fence and she just happens to fall on her head and hits a stone. While unconscious he manually strangles her to death. He leaves her where he killed her. He was picked up for questioning about this murder since he was in the area , but he said he didn't know anything about it. August 1951 , 2nd murdered girl 9 , Cecily Batstone crossed paths with John near a cinema and he persuades her to get on a bus with him to a desolate area where he manually strangles her to death and leaves her where she falls. He crossed paths with Cecily in town. Lots of people saw him with Cecily , but he was he brought in to the police station to be questioned about some stealing. Before the police could ask him anything he starts bragging about killing Brenda and Cecily , plus a bunch of stealing he had been doing. His parol officer talks with John and she decides he didn't know right from wrong and tells the judge and the judge sent him to Broadmoor. John had a job while at Broadmoor as a cleaner. One day they asked him to wash the outside of an outbuilding. So while in regular clothes he climbs up on the outbuilding and hops over the fence. He escapes for about 4 hours and while out walking around town. 3rd murder : a young girl of 5, Linda Bowyer riding her bicycle when he walks up and somehow persuades her to follow him in a shortcut trail and strangles her to death. He left her where he killed her. They did not find her for 2 days. He told the psychiatrist he murdered them to give the cops something to do: 1. Motivation : Revenge he resented the police since a young child. 2. Was power: power over life and death with these defenseless little girls. The crimes these very young girls committed were : 2. Unsupervised made them vulnerable (Where are your mothers) 4. Innocence , since he didn't look like the boogey man he wasn't the boogey man. I think he targeted these babies and and preyed on them because of all those reasons. I think he might not have any moral empathy he had and knew conventional rules. Right from wrong. He enjoyed the wrong. I think he was given the correct sentence he should have been hanged. Last quote to think about from Will Rogers " Whoever wrote the 10 commandments made'em short. They may NOT always he KEPT, but they can be understood."
Hello Dr Das, another great video! Here's a really technical question: If a defendant with paranoid schizophrenia kills someone during a psychotic episode, what's the practical difference between a conviction for manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility (partial defence) as opposed to being found 'not guilty by way reason of insanity'. In both cases the defendant would presumably go to a high secure psychiatric hospital (hospital order) with a restriction order for indeterminate length of incarceration, but is it down to the degree of severity of psychosis that determines which applies? Also I guess that in the case of 'not guilty by reason of insanity' there would be no chance of the patient being transferred to prison if his condition improved, whereas in the case of diminished responsibility a transfer to prison is possible if his condition improves? I look forward to your reply!
Hi again Dr Das, I just noticed Dr Grande's new video about "white woman syndrome" and I find it highly HIGHLY problematic! I am so disappointed in him. I thought he had at least SOME decency left but no. Just drama and clickbait. Please never go in that direction. I appreciate that you might grow your channel slower since drama and clickbait is what attracts views, but please keep your professional integrity continuing forward.
He lost me too, over a year ago. Sad. I enjoyed his real case studies. I also dropped Dr. Mike when he went on vacation during covid and got caught on a yacht partying and hanging all over people.
@@nopenever3 OH yes, that covid party was disgraceful! I would have forgiven him if he posted his apology on his main channel (we all do stupid things sometimes) but ffs, the way he went about it was suuuuuper shady!
Hello Dr Das, beautiful weather here in Johannesuburg and the world in my small village seems okay 😁 how does mentally deficient person work out the meticulous plan to escape from scary Broadmoor? Is a pathologically low IQ what the lay person knows as a low IQ?
Hi Gail. I don't think he worked out a complex plan. I think he just climbed over the wall when he saw the opportunity. Pathologically low is VERY low - i.e enough to hinder normal functioning.
I dont agree with the death penalty as people have been killed and later have been find to be innocent. I think life should mean life with no chance of parole.x
Me too. I once supported it... sad to say but we don't have a justice system... it's an injustice system. Live and learn. I do not begrudge people who support it for a crime against their loved ones... I hope to never be in that situation. It is also much less expensive to do life than death row and an execution for some reason. It is our money.... possibly killing innocent people.
P.S. John sentenced 3 little girls Brenda 5 , Cecily 9 and Linda 5 to the death penalty and executed them. They had committed no crimes. They were all 100% innocent, but he killed them anyway. What that man did was unethical and morally revolting. If it was my baby that man killed he would get the death penalty and nothing less. I wonder if the little girls ever got to cry for their mothers. During the civil war Walt Whitman tended too many men that were in the hospitals wounded. He would also go out into the battlefields at night to help find the men laying and dying in the fields. He said they could always find them, because as they were dying they would be calling for their mothers.
He mentions that Straffen wasn't going to be able to get much help with his disability and yet he thinks he was in the right place? Doesn't he claim that if the criminal has no real chance of rehabilitation they shouldn't be in a hospital but prison? If Straffen was mentally 10 at the time of incarceration at a mental hospital doesn't that mean he's really never going to actually understand the crimes committed? And if someone can't understand the crimes then how can they be evil? Doesn't the fact of someone being evil mean they understand that they are hurting others? And Straffen is said to have enjoyed killing due to how many people he murdered. Am I confused? I think so.
I think the death penalty should be brought back for the really horrific offences, say instead of full life terms. It would save the country a lot of money!
I think it's a useful tool, tell us where the body is or go to sleep. If the DNA evidence is irrefutable, and a child has been raped and/or murdered.....well, bye. However, I know that innocent people have been executed (American). Nobody should be executed on eye witness testimony. Looking forward to your book! PS. Very inappropriate, but if you did one of these shirtless, I believe Dr. Grande would be immediately forgotten.
Dr. Grande has become a pop culture psychologist. I liked him when he actually had real cases. Also ... they mess up dna cases too. Unbelievably incompetent injustice systems. There are always exceptions but once the first innocent person was executed it should have stopped.
Maybe I misunderstood and I apologise if I did but who or what facility in its right mind let's a patient/killer close to the front door in civvies, asking for trouble, and I'd like to know if the family of the 5 year old took action over that fact.
Does broadmoor still have a TC? (I’m sure I studied it had one back in the day). If so how well does this work in reality? It sounded fantastic in rehabilitation people (in books). It is something I’ve always been fond of exploring (but not as a resident). ☺️
Kinda mixed on the death penalty of course if its seriously horrific and your 100 percent certain they are responsible then why not would save so many years of them rotting away and not to mention its expensive!!
The editing and the arm-waving was so off-putting, I'm afraid I couldn't watch for more than a minute. Shame, as the subject and the information sounded interesting.
Another awesome presentation, however, the over use of fancy graphic effects and sounds are detracting from the quality of your knowledge and work. Less is more as they say unless your considering a career change with Pixar Animation Studios 😊
Agreed, the sound effects are quite off-putting. Great, engaging information and presentation otherwise.
Noted!
Very interesting topics. The depth of human psychology is really fascinating.
indeed it is
Another fascinating case from this fantastic channel! I do believe that some people deserve to die for their crimes but I would never vote for the death penalty as mistakes would be bound to be made and it would be tragic if an innocent person were put to death.
You're really finding your footing on TH-cam. I appreciate the better video and audio quality. The sound effects are a bit much & repetitive. But you've come a long way!
Thanks for the tips!
I will flog my editor
@@APsychForSoreMinds haha. They're doing a great job. Just a few tweaks. I know personally TH-cam is a lot of trial and error. It's a forever learning process.
Agreed on seeing awesome progress in overall editing and sound quality. (Content has always been solid :) )
No Capital Punishment for me, it's an unethical. I work in a World Heritage Listed Prison, (Decommissioned), a young man was sentenced to death there in 1961, he was then commuted to a Life Sentence. He served 15 years before being fully exonerated of the crime. Herein lies another problem with the Death Penalty... The chance of making mistakes.
thanks for sharing, Della
Hi Dr. Das,
Hope you had a fun Crime Com !!! Very well done video as always. #1" Expiration dates are for whimps"! LOL This is just an opinion. Just one side of a big question. The question I think you asked was , "do you believe in the death penalty with or without special circumstances? ( special circumstances such as Intellectual disability or Insane)
It is a moral dilemma for me. I absolutely believe in the death penalty. The more heinous the crime and absolute certainty of guilt the chances the death penalty should be used. I do not believe in uncertainty of guilt and use of the death penalty. Such as, " Tim was the last person to see Skipper alive" Tim did it ! I just know he did it ! Who else could have done it? " "That is not enough. "(Please ignore my poor spelling)
What do you with John S ? He murders three very young girls and he has an Intellectual deficiency of 64 ? (Intellectual deficiency of 64 is a special circumstance in the USA.) At 17 his intellectual abilities were equal to a 10 year old .
John had problems from early childhood. He came from a stable family with married parents with mom and dad living in the home with him. I could not find any paper that said if his parents really interacted with John.
oldpsychiatrist sent to live in a residential home for the intellectually disabled in order to help John adapt and be able to function in society. He grew up in these facilities. They taught him right from wrong if they didn't they would not have said he did not like corrections. A correction(He is doing wrong then ,corrected and shown the correct behavior) ( Who the Hell likes a correction?) ( A correction is like the stupid terminology of "constructive criticism ".) (Let me tell you "criticism is criticism is criticism is criticism etc...) (Just like when people ask: What is the difference between sea salt and salt? The price... Duh !)
dilemma : John lacked many attributes that are ascribed to an ordinary moral agent: 1. He lacked the ability to empathize with others. 2. He seemed to not understand between conventional and moral rules and 3. he tended not to learn from errors in a way other people do. These attributes tend to give people the ability to commit anti-social acts remorselessly. His only regards he had were for his own needs. Did John present an Intellectual capacity for ordinary or moral reasoning? burglary and stealing.
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I really would like to weigh all aspects of the crimes for as fair a decision on the death penalty, but I just don't have the information." So, who cares about an unbiased opinion anyway." LOL ( The USA's Flying Monkey Hilary Clinton said ,and I quote "Why let facts mess up your opinions ". ) LOL
Can you hold John who is devoid of morality (because of his) Intellectual deficiency and his inability to adapt socially is so extreme he should be excused him from responsibly of the murders? I do know.
What I think is he had enough conventual rules taught to know the difference between right and wrong you don't need morality to follow the conventual rule " do not commit murder. "
The three young girls were given the death penalty , so let's see what heinous crimes they committed.
July 1951, 1st murdered girl Brenda Goddard, 5. She was picking flowers in her front yard when John walks up and says he can show her where she can gets better flowers. So, they move off to the back yard to a copse where he lifts her over a fence and she just happens to fall on her head and hits a stone. While unconscious he manually strangles her to death. He leaves her where he killed her.
He was picked up for questioning about this murder since he was in the area , but he said he didn't know anything about it.
August 1951 , 2nd murdered girl 9 , Cecily Batstone crossed paths with John near a cinema and he persuades her to get on a bus with him to a desolate area where he manually strangles her to death and leaves her where she falls.
He crossed paths with Cecily in town. Lots of people saw him with Cecily , but he was he brought in to the police station to be questioned about some stealing.
Before the police could ask him anything he starts bragging about killing Brenda and Cecily , plus a bunch of stealing he had been doing. His parol officer talks with John and she decides he didn't know right from wrong and tells the judge and the judge sent him to Broadmoor.
John had a job while at Broadmoor as a cleaner. One day they asked him to wash the outside of an outbuilding. So while in regular clothes he climbs up on the outbuilding and hops over the fence. He escapes for about 4 hours and while out walking around town.
3rd murder : a young girl of 5, Linda Bowyer riding her bicycle when he walks up and somehow persuades her to follow him in a shortcut trail and strangles her to death. He left her where he killed her. They did not find her for 2 days.
He told the psychiatrist he murdered them to give the cops something to do:
1. Motivation : Revenge he resented the police since a young child.
2. Was power: power over life and death with these defenseless little girls.
The crimes these very young girls committed were :
2. Unsupervised made them vulnerable (Where are your mothers)
4. Innocence , since he didn't look like the boogey man he wasn't the boogey man.
I think he targeted these babies and and preyed on them because of all those reasons. I think he might not have any moral empathy he had and knew conventional rules. Right from wrong. He enjoyed the wrong. I think he was given the correct sentence he should have been hanged.
Last quote to think about from Will Rogers
" Whoever wrote the 10 commandments made'em short. They may NOT always he KEPT, but they can be understood."
Wow! You should start your own TH-cam channel, Claudia.....
Hello Dr Das, another great video! Here's a really technical question: If a defendant with paranoid schizophrenia kills someone during a psychotic episode, what's the practical difference between a conviction for manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility (partial defence) as opposed to being found 'not guilty by way reason of insanity'. In both cases the defendant would presumably go to a high secure psychiatric hospital (hospital order) with a restriction order for indeterminate length of incarceration, but is it down to the degree of severity of psychosis that determines which applies? Also I guess that in the case of 'not guilty by reason of insanity' there would be no chance of the patient being transferred to prison if his condition improved, whereas in the case of diminished responsibility a transfer to prison is possible if his condition improves? I look forward to your reply!
Love listening to you! You could read me a recipe book and I’d be mesmerized ❤
Hi again Dr Das, I just noticed Dr Grande's new video about "white woman syndrome" and I find it highly HIGHLY problematic! I am so disappointed in him. I thought he had at least SOME decency left but no. Just drama and clickbait. Please never go in that direction. I appreciate that you might grow your channel slower since drama and clickbait is what attracts views, but please keep your professional integrity continuing forward.
He lost me too, over a year ago. Sad. I enjoyed his real case studies. I also dropped Dr. Mike when he went on vacation during covid and got caught on a yacht partying and hanging all over people.
@@nopenever3 OH yes, that covid party was disgraceful! I would have forgiven him if he posted his apology on his main channel (we all do stupid things sometimes) but ffs, the way he went about it was suuuuuper shady!
Yes, please, don't go the Dr. Guacamole route.
Hello Dr Das, beautiful weather here in Johannesuburg and the world in my small village seems okay 😁 how does mentally deficient person work out the meticulous plan to escape from scary Broadmoor? Is a pathologically low IQ what the lay person knows as a low IQ?
Great questions
Hi Gail.
I don't think he worked out a complex plan. I think he just climbed over the wall when he saw the opportunity. Pathologically low is VERY low - i.e enough to hinder normal functioning.
@@APsychForSoreMinds Thank you Dr Das 😀
Greetings Dr. Das from Phoenix, Arizona
greetings back, sherri
I dont agree with the death penalty as people have been killed and later have been find to be innocent. I think life should mean life with no chance of parole.x
Me too. I once supported it... sad to say but we don't have a justice system... it's an injustice system. Live and learn. I do not begrudge people who support it for a crime against their loved ones... I hope to never be in that situation. It is also much less expensive to do life than death row and an execution for some reason. It is our money.... possibly killing innocent people.
P.S. John sentenced 3 little girls Brenda 5 , Cecily 9 and Linda 5 to the death penalty and executed them. They had committed no crimes. They were all 100% innocent, but he killed them anyway.
What that man did was unethical and morally revolting. If it was my baby that man killed he would get the death penalty and nothing less. I wonder if the little girls ever got to cry for their mothers.
During the civil war Walt Whitman tended too many men that were in the hospitals wounded. He would also go out into the battlefields at night to help find the men laying and dying in the fields. He said they could always find them, because as they were dying they would be calling for their mothers.
He mentions that Straffen wasn't going to be able to get much help with his disability and yet he thinks he was in the right place? Doesn't he claim that if the criminal has no real chance of rehabilitation they shouldn't be in a hospital but prison? If Straffen was mentally 10 at the time of incarceration at a mental hospital doesn't that mean he's really never going to actually understand the crimes committed?
And if someone can't understand the crimes then how can they be evil? Doesn't the fact of someone being evil mean they understand that they are hurting others? And Straffen is said to have enjoyed killing due to how many people he murdered.
Am I confused? I think so.
I think the death penalty should be brought back for the really horrific offences, say instead of full life terms. It would save the country a lot of money!
I don’t know how I feel about the death penalty, but the fact that Ian died in 2017 makes me feel sick. His victims were so young
I think it's a useful tool, tell us where the body is or go to sleep. If the DNA evidence is irrefutable, and a child has been raped and/or murdered.....well, bye. However, I know that innocent people have been executed (American). Nobody should be executed on eye witness testimony. Looking forward to your book!
PS. Very inappropriate, but if you did one of these shirtless, I believe Dr. Grande would be immediately forgotten.
Dr. Grande has become a pop culture psychologist. I liked him when he actually had real cases. Also ... they mess up dna cases too. Unbelievably incompetent injustice systems. There are always exceptions but once the first innocent person was executed it should have stopped.
It’s Robert Maudsley now DR DAS ….not Brady
No death penalty we shouldn’t kill like they did !
I had hoped it wasn't Ian Brady. A very scary man.
Maybe I misunderstood and I apologise if I did but who or what facility in its right mind let's a patient/killer close to the front door in civvies, asking for trouble, and I'd like to know if the family of the 5 year old took action over that fact.
Sorry to break it to you but Ian Brady died 4 years ago in 2017 in ashworth
good point!
You gave that away by your thumbnail
Ethical blanket ban on death penalty
Too many innocent people executed.
Does broadmoor still have a TC? (I’m sure I studied it had one back in the day). If so how well does this work in reality? It sounded fantastic in rehabilitation people (in books). It is something I’ve always been fond of exploring (but not as a resident). ☺️
i think it does, yes
What is a TC? Theatre Company?
Kinda mixed on the death penalty of course if its seriously horrific and your 100 percent certain they are responsible then why not would save so many years of them rotting away and not to mention its expensive!!
Myra and Ian wasn’t married
Sorry, can't watch with all the extraneous activity and sound effects.
The death penalty should be allowed if its a fact that they killed. Just my opinion thinking from the side of the victim's 🤔
Ian Brady and Myra Hindley we’re not married
I think the death penalty is acceptable for certain cases
Would you care to expand?
Is Robert maudsley the longest serving (typed before your answer)
Please contact me a relative
:)
The editing and the arm-waving was so off-putting, I'm afraid I couldn't watch for more than a minute. Shame, as the subject and the information sounded interesting.
Did you try squinting your eyes?
@@APsychForSoreMinds ha ha! You seem like a really good guy but the sounds were off-putting.