19:24 "Both don't produce any mana at all by themselves" is wrong, since they both say "each land", not "each other land", so they include themselves. They're effectively just a better Swamp and Forest, respectively, discounting the fact that they die to nonbasic land removal and that Ayumi landwalks over them
I have one in really beautiful condition. Doesn't make much sense for me to play with it when other people in my play group literally proxy entire decks though.
Legend says, in a 1000 years time, the legendary commander player will arrive to predict us the next Moxfield ad, bringing peace and balance to the game.
I think it could have been fun to have "honorable mentions" between listing #2 and #1. I was kind of thinking Maze of Ith might be on here, Thespian Stage, or War Room could make the list. Always love the content!
Filth and Urborg is pretty cool. You can even do a janky little setup with Final Parting by entombing Filth and tutoring Urborg, playing it, giving all of your creatures swampwalk and all lands are now Swamps
Above that I would put Dakmor Salvage. Having dredge on a land is busted and goes infinite really easily. I might be partial cause I play Gitrog but I obviously play chasm as well.
Glacial chasm is so absurd. In my Kura commander deck this just lets me lock so much of the table out of the game, and it’s not even that hard to protect.
Used Boseiju in against a colorless deck the other day. Took out their Lodestone Golem. They asked if I would pay the extra one, I said no. They asked if they could search for a waste, I said no again!
Man they day Yavimaya was spoiled I was ecstatic. Having that and Urborg in Kozilek for Eye of Ugin, Maze of Ith, Hall of the Bandit Lord and Mishra’s Workshop is extremely valuable! Nice vid boys ;)
I'm a big fan of utility lands, I pretty much slam them into a deck before doing my colour fixing - I play all of these besides #6, though I wasn't quite expecting Phyrexian Tower to be that high, I should probably slam it into more decks.
I beg to differ on Phyrexian Tower, the BB you get from saccing a creature can be VERY useful.^^ Use it to get two activations of Attrition take out two non black creatures and get two more sac triggers for you, and they better hope you don't have a Dictate of Erebos out.^^
For yavimaya, don't forget about scryb ranger/quirion ranger being able to return a land and untap a creature. Being able to tap, then bounce then replay a cradle or a nykthos due to the forest typing yavimaya provides can get you a stupid amount of mana.
I think off-color fetches only have real utility if you can reliably recur them (loam, crucible, etc) or if the lower end of the curve is pip-dense. I have a lot of RR, BB, and RB cards in Neheb Minotaur tribal, so that’s the only deck I have off-color fetches in
Another awesome video! I just had an idea for a cool video and I thought I should tell you guys about it since I don't make content myself anymore. You guys should make a video about how to set your mana curve and what spells you generally want to play at specific costs. For example: I would say that generally in the one and two drop slots you want spells that ramp, remove, and cantrip, and these would comprise about 1/3 of my decks nonland cards if not more. At the eight drop slot you generally want spells that when you the game, and I would generally include about four or five of these.
I wonder what locations on Dominaria will complete the "All lands are X" cycle... assuming Shiv will be Mountains. What if there's an extra one for Zhalfir like "All lands are Wastes" xD hahaha oof... though I would assume since most "time-magic" is Blue, Zhalfir might be Islands.
I have been wanting a legendary cycle of basic land types forever. Shiv would be perfect but they might just make it a normal legendary land like Yavimaya/Urborg. If they do then I would have no complaints and let’s just keep crossing our fingers
honestly don't think that is a cycle they want to complete because cards like Boil are legal in modern and they don't want to make instant speed armageddon a thing for modern as a format.
For #2 on the contrary. They do produce mana by themselves. If you put either down on turn 1 you could tap them for the type they assign to every land since they assign it to themselves. Not a big deal but they can still produce mana on their own 😀 But yeah they really have a ton of utility and I don't even know all them but I stumble into some time to time. Like I have the old card Living Lands - makes all forests 1/1 creatures in addition to lands. Throw in a cradle and Living lands and all of a sudden your opponents lands are now at risk of anything that stifles or destroys creatures. Of course so are yours but as you guys mentioned. This is something you do with a plan in mind so that you're almost indisputably benefiting more.
So I cut urzas saga from my tokens deck because at the time I only had 1 artifact it could get. But after edits I now have 3 plus ESPER SENTINEL. Was looking for a upgrade to a utility land slot that's isn't working out
I used to play urborg in mono G lands just so I could tap fetches and other non mana producing lands when I run out of basics. Card has so many fun synergies.
Lands that (can) win the game: Strip Mine Crawling Barrens Den of the Bugbear Dark Depths Field of the Dead Kessig Wolf Run Cabal Coffers Gaea's Cradle Serra's Sanctum Mystic Sanctuary
I tapped a land once, but that was a long time ago. I have tried drawing a hand by myself but it just isnt the same. Man 2 and a half months sure take a toll on you!
Solid list, I actually hate playing Urborg and Yavimaya. I have a pimped mana base (fetches, duals, triomes, shocks etc) more often than not in my decks I’m fine for colours of mana. They usually end up assisting my opponents more than I ever see the benefit. In good mana bases I don’t think they’re needed
I run Urza's Saga in my Liesa Forgotten Archangel (midnight hunt) deck just because it can find Skullclamp. The only other target in the deck is sol ring. Skullclamp is just so crazy that I think it pretty much justified Urza's Saga on its own in a 2 color deck
@@NitpickingNerds Depends if I get Mishra's Factory and Explorer's Scope in my opening hand or not :P Hard to say though, I think it's pretty decent, certainly racked up some Ws in my playgroup, it's one of the only decks I've kept around despite basically everyone switching to Commandrr. Managed to beat a Standard deck once (granted being functionally vintage certainly helps, but I'm assuming Standard decks are generally designed to win vs. say a "goblins with hats" deck. Red Deck Wins would prolly demolish it, but kicking a Rite of Replication on Hero of Bladehold is a pretty good way to beat Hero of Bladehold apparently.
Yavimaya + Eladamri is my favorite flavor win in elves. My forests have grown densely and crept into my opponents land allowing my elves to march in undetected to smack ya right in the face!
Normally I get really annoyed when youtubers put the same advertisement in the middle of every video. Here tho I don’t mind because I love moxfield it is amazing
Chatterfang loves yavimaya since it has forrest walk. I also use phyrexian tower in the deck since im popping out squirrel tokens like rodents do on their own.
Underrated mention: Emergence Zone - Comes into play untapped - 1 + sacrifice Emergence Zone to play any spells for the rest of the turn as Flash - Win games on opponents turns with proper set up :P
If mox field would be an actual card. Land Tap: create a token of your choice: create an artifact with "Tap: create a colorless artifact with( tap: add 3 colorless mana) create any mox from o. g. mox cycle. create a land token of your choice except it loses Legendary if it is: Wasteland, Nykthos, Tolarian Academy, Ancient Tomb, Gaea's Cradle, Cabal Coffers, Fable Passage
Great vid. Are y'all doing deck upgrades for the Battle for baulders gate precons? Would like to see party time and exit from exile's. I made the rivateers rampage modifications and it's one of my favorite decks
"Top 10 cards below a certain number of decks" would be interesting, I think. many of these top 10s are about cards that are already popular and well known.
I've never seen field of the dead do anything considering how much people love it. I think standard it was good but Ive just never seen it make more than 2 or 3 zombies in a game. It has just got cut from all my decks, great trade in though! 👍
I dont think fotd is actually an utility land, its a combo piece/part of a larger labdfall package. 2 or 3 zombies by the lategame deffinitelly isnt worth a colorless tapland. Play it on landfall? You have too many bodies and can do whatever you want. People will need to boardwipe every single turn just so you dont kill them.
@@Blackvolttage I've seen it make maybe 10 zombies in a game in a dedicated high level landfall deck, definitely better value than a basic in that for sure
I play Yarok landfall, and him doubling the zombies earned with each land, and doubling ramp, so that wood elves, could grab a forest, and a snow-covered forest. Thats two names. But with field of the dead online, a wood elves would grab two lands which would then produce four zombies, 4 2/2s, a 1/1, and ramping two lands is insane value for 3 mana
oh, i run elesh with urborg and kormus bell, never had the chance to pull it off, but it's there. the bell on it's own is brutal with elesh in some games tho.
fetch lands are better in legacy vintage and modern. i get that they fetch things but like you get one copy of the fetches and one copy of a something that’s worth fetching, basics are generally the last thing to fetch, i don’t run fetch lands in commander because i don’t think they are anywhere as strong as they are in constructed formats
By themselves, Urborg taps for one black mana and Yavimaya taps for one green mana. What did you mean @ 19:23 both don't produce any mana by themselves?
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I'm so mad that Volrath's Stronghold is on the reserved list. I'd love to put it in a bunch of decks, but it's absolutely not worth $75 or whatever. Hopefully at some point they do an almost-functional reprint (or better yet, just abolish the RL).
@@baconsir1159 Original versions of cards still maintain most of their value. Most vintage cards get their value from their historic/collectable attributes, rather than from their value as game pieces. A lot of them don't even see much play. For an example of what I mean, look at the price of Alpha/Beta Shivan Dragons. The card itself as a game piece is virtually worthless, you can get them for a couple cents, but Alpha/Beta Shivan Dragons cost thousands of dollars. Also, tell me you've speculated on RL cards without telling me you've speculated on RL cards ;)
@@sailorforce Sure, that's fine, I just don't personally really like playing with proxies. I'm very much in favor of people using them and punishing WotC as much as possible, I just don't really like using them myself. As someone who spent my entire childhood playing with LEGOs, it's very similar to how I wouldn't want to mix Mega Bloks in with my LEGOs.
Tried Moxfield. Really hate that the check boxes next to the cards in your deck are for whether the card is in your "collection" instead of if you acquired a copy for the deck you're building. Who thinks this makes any sense?
@@NitpickingNerds The circle to the right of the card. When I made my first deck I thought it was a really handy way to know if you had acquired the card for the deck yet. But when I made my second deck, some of the cards were already checked. Who would care about what's in your collection when you're in the individual deck interface? There should be a separate section that shows all the cards in your collection, though I have no idea why anyone would keep track of that on Moxfield anyway. Who is going to enter a bunch of cards they have no intention of putting in decks into Moxfield? If you're going to do it anywhere, you should do it on TCG or something because that automatically adds cards you buy to your collection saving you a TON of time. Huge design flaw in my opinion and makes it less useful than other methods.
I know you guys gave your definition of what utility lands are, but I really disagree with fetches being considered utility lands. Their primary purpose is fixing, and while they do have very real upsides of shuffling, filling the graveyard, and creating extra landfall triggers, I would say that to be considered a utility land, people should be primarily playing it for non-fixing reasons. Also, Field of the Dead is placed way too low. I truly think every single deck should be playing that card, regardless of what their color identity is.
Ad for Moxfield is predicted at 11:31
Holy crap! Did I win the prediction game?
Dang if that was a blind prediction you win!
Right...
Congratulations friend!
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Moxfield is truly a staple in commander at this point
That’s a fact
Moxfield is amazing
Tags are pretty sweet ngl
19:24 "Both don't produce any mana at all by themselves" is wrong, since they both say "each land", not "each other land", so they include themselves. They're effectively just a better Swamp and Forest, respectively, discounting the fact that they die to nonbasic land removal and that Ayumi landwalks over them
I’ve actually played against someone in a game that was using a real tabernacle. It was such a cool experience!
Big deal....I have against and with power nine in vintage. Or unlimited what we used to call it in the 90s.
@@kennethlancaster1237 🤦♂️
I have one in really beautiful condition. Doesn't make much sense for me to play with it when other people in my play group literally proxy entire decks though.
Tabernacle shouldn’t be banned because it’ll just release elf ball/creature snowball decks. It’s more of a sad thing that it’s reserved list.
Legend says, in a 1000 years time, the legendary commander player will arrive to predict us the next Moxfield ad, bringing peace and balance to the game.
It’s not possible
When they do arrive they will be quickly dismissed as a lunatic
I think it could have been fun to have "honorable mentions" between listing #2 and #1. I was kind of thinking Maze of Ith might be on here, Thespian Stage, or War Room could make the list. Always love the content!
So many great lands missed this list
If you run Field of the Dead, get Thespian's Stage and Vesuva to copy it. You'll build an out of control Zombie horde.
Filth and Urborg is pretty cool. You can even do a janky little setup with Final Parting by entombing Filth and tutoring Urborg, playing it, giving all of your creatures swampwalk and all lands are now Swamps
It is a wombo combo!
Green creatures have forestwalk. All creatures have swampwalk. Don't forget the Roots of life. Bazinga!
I think I'd put Glacial Chasm in the top ten, such a unique ability on a land.
Above that I would put Dakmor Salvage. Having dredge on a land is busted and goes infinite really easily.
I might be partial cause I play Gitrog but I obviously play chasm as well.
Glacial Chasm has effectually won me multiple games...great crop rotation target and is an all star in my Tameshi combo deck.
Glacial chasm is so absurd. In my Kura commander deck this just lets me lock so much of the table out of the game, and it’s not even that hard to protect.
It's my defense alongside Constant Mists and Sunstone in my Aesi lands deck.
Used Boseiju in against a colorless deck the other day. Took out their Lodestone Golem. They asked if I would pay the extra one, I said no. They asked if they could search for a waste, I said no again!
Man they day Yavimaya was spoiled I was ecstatic. Having that and Urborg in Kozilek for Eye of Ugin, Maze of Ith, Hall of the Bandit Lord and Mishra’s Workshop is extremely valuable! Nice vid boys ;)
Ayyy I've been waiting for this, was hoping I'd get a birthday shout out on my birthday!
I'm a big fan of utility lands, I pretty much slam them into a deck before doing my colour fixing - I play all of these besides #6, though I wasn't quite expecting Phyrexian Tower to be that high, I should probably slam it into more decks.
Which number 6?
I beg to differ on Phyrexian Tower, the BB you get from saccing a creature can be VERY useful.^^ Use it to get two activations of Attrition take out two non black creatures and get two more sac triggers for you, and they better hope you don't have a Dictate of Erebos out.^^
Oh dang, early comment time. Moxfield ad at 8:44 maybe.
For yavimaya, don't forget about scryb ranger/quirion ranger being able to return a land and untap a creature.
Being able to tap, then bounce then replay a cradle or a nykthos due to the forest typing yavimaya provides can get you a stupid amount of mana.
Or you can have a Vesuva and have it be whatever expensive land you want it to be on the battlefield
Also a great land!
10:35, oh crap I didn’t realize that
Have you done a video on building with moxfield ?
If not I would love to see if I am missing any features.
I have been cutting off-color fetches to soften my more casual decks, they actually become tiresome to shuffle several times per game
I think off-color fetches only have real utility if you can reliably recur them (loam, crucible, etc) or if the lower end of the curve is pip-dense.
I have a lot of RR, BB, and RB cards in Neheb Minotaur tribal, so that’s the only deck I have off-color fetches in
Urborg and Yavimaya also allow Tabernacle to tap for mana.
Another awesome video! I just had an idea for a cool video and I thought I should tell you guys about it since I don't make content myself anymore. You guys should make a video about how to set your mana curve and what spells you generally want to play at specific costs. For example: I would say that generally in the one and two drop slots you want spells that ramp, remove, and cantrip, and these would comprise about 1/3 of my decks nonland cards if not more. At the eight drop slot you generally want spells that when you the game, and I would generally include about four or five of these.
Shivan gorge is a gem in my pinger deck, it's a pinger ON A LAND. It's everything that deck wants
I wonder what locations on Dominaria will complete the "All lands are X" cycle... assuming Shiv will be Mountains. What if there's an extra one for Zhalfir like "All lands are Wastes" xD hahaha oof... though I would assume since most "time-magic" is Blue, Zhalfir might be Islands.
I have been wanting a legendary cycle of basic land types forever. Shiv would be perfect but they might just make it a normal legendary land like Yavimaya/Urborg. If they do then I would have no complaints and let’s just keep crossing our fingers
honestly don't think that is a cycle they want to complete because cards like Boil are legal in modern and they don't want to make instant speed armageddon a thing for modern as a format.
@@PoopinaBucket I was referring to the other 3-4 cards that would complete the Urborg and Yavimaya set...
Don’t want to see the mountain one because I’ll get sick of every red deck running valakut
"That finds basic lands loser" I laughed way to hard at that because you two are just so wholesome together.
For #2 on the contrary. They do produce mana by themselves. If you put either down on turn 1 you could tap them for the type they assign to every land since they assign it to themselves. Not a big deal but they can still produce mana on their own 😀
But yeah they really have a ton of utility and I don't even know all them but I stumble into some time to time. Like I have the old card Living Lands - makes all forests 1/1 creatures in addition to lands. Throw in a cradle and Living lands and all of a sudden your opponents lands are now at risk of anything that stifles or destroys creatures. Of course so are yours but as you guys mentioned. This is something you do with a plan in mind so that you're almost indisputably benefiting more.
LMFAO @12:46 🤣Imagine this just "casually" getting played in a game... 🤣
Volraths stronghold is sooo strong makes a deck so hard to shut down
That whole cycle is great!
You guys have awesome chemistry and know your stuff! Also Beezy is literally 😤🥺
My birthday video!! 🎉🎉😘
So I cut urzas saga from my tokens deck because at the time I only had 1 artifact it could get. But after edits I now have 3 plus ESPER SENTINEL. Was looking for a upgrade to a utility land slot that's isn't working out
It can not get esper sentinal sadly
@@NitpickingNerds dangit you're correct. Still might.
I used to play urborg in mono G lands just so I could tap fetches and other non mana producing lands when I run out of basics. Card has so many fun synergies.
You have Yavimaya now
@@NitpickingNerds exactly!
Beezy on one today with the quick rips and jabs and I'm here for it 😆
Love your videos guys , they have been the only thing keeping my mind off being sick in bed for the last few days.
I love phyrexian tower so much. Absolute Mvp in my nevinyrral deck.
Lands that (can) win the game:
Strip Mine
Crawling Barrens
Den of the Bugbear
Dark Depths
Field of the Dead
Kessig Wolf Run
Cabal Coffers
Gaea's Cradle
Serra's Sanctum
Mystic Sanctuary
I'm sure there are others, but I can name about 10 off the top of my head here 🙂
Valakut wins the game
Dakmor Salvage can be a part of combos too and dredge on a land is underrated imo
I will say I dont think manlands count :P
@@NitpickingNerds Not even if they can go infinite with infinite mana? Crawling Barrens and Den of the Bugbear can
I tapped a land once, but that was a long time ago. I have tried drawing a hand by myself but it just isnt the same.
Man 2 and a half months sure take a toll on you!
I think Otawara is better than Bosejiu in higher power when it can remove anything temporarily, but all of them are playable over a basic.
Strip Mine lock! When casting Armageddon just isn't salt inducing enough.^^
Volrath’s stronghold worse than hall of Heliod’s generosity huh? You guys feeling okay or is the heat wave getting to you?
If you like sac outlets on lands Diamond Valley is an underrated gem.
What do you guys think about ancient tomb?
Quicksand also a good cheap sleeper utility land; run it in my budget kozilek the great distortion deck.
Phyrexian Tower my beloved
Yavivmaya in mono blue with Acid Rain, Sunder, Frozen Aether and Back To Basics and you have a solid mono blue mld deck.
Just bought an urborg an hour before watching this. Also please do more 'is it worth it' videos
Solid list, I actually hate playing Urborg and Yavimaya. I have a pimped mana base (fetches, duals, triomes, shocks etc) more often than not in my decks I’m fine for colours of mana. They usually end up assisting my opponents more than I ever see the benefit. In good mana bases I don’t think they’re needed
However I should add, urborg WITH cabal coffers is a no brainer. That’s the exception.
Do adds at middle and end?? 😆 That would be great.
Nice video bros. 💪🏻😃
I run Urza's Saga in my Liesa Forgotten Archangel (midnight hunt) deck just because it can find Skullclamp. The only other target in the deck is sol ring. Skullclamp is just so crazy that I think it pretty much justified Urza's Saga on its own in a 2 color deck
Running top, ring, skull clamp with urzas saga is just too good
Halfway through the video i was like hey joe’s hair is purple xD
Slick, hope to get a chance to say hello in Montreal!! I love that city!!
Hope to see you there
"Lands don't win the game."
[Laughs in my Manland deck]
How good is that deck?
@@NitpickingNerds Depends if I get Mishra's Factory and Explorer's Scope in my opening hand or not :P
Hard to say though, I think it's pretty decent, certainly racked up some Ws in my playgroup, it's one of the only decks I've kept around despite basically everyone switching to Commandrr. Managed to beat a Standard deck once (granted being functionally vintage certainly helps, but I'm assuming Standard decks are generally designed to win vs. say a "goblins with hats" deck. Red Deck Wins would prolly demolish it, but kicking a Rite of Replication on Hero of Bladehold is a pretty good way to beat Hero of Bladehold apparently.
Yavimaya + Eladamri is my favorite flavor win in elves. My forests have grown densely and crept into my opponents land allowing my elves to march in undetected to smack ya right in the face!
That is spicy
Normally I get really annoyed when youtubers put the same advertisement in the middle of every video. Here tho I don’t mind because I love moxfield it is amazing
Moxfield is amazing and they support the channel!
@@NitpickingNerds that’s awesome
Chatterfang loves yavimaya since it has forrest walk. I also use phyrexian tower in the deck since im popping out squirrel tokens like rodents do on their own.
Underrated mention: Emergence Zone
- Comes into play untapped
- 1 + sacrifice Emergence Zone to play any spells for the rest of the turn as Flash
- Win games on opponents turns with proper set up :P
Not a card I would ever play
We have had a little dear fawn living in our yard. It's probably a month old so thanks for the one month birthday wish for little spottie.
Deer fawn... Although they have become dear to us haha
Niceee , no more grading utillity part 2 but this is cool :D
If mox field would be an actual card.
Land
Tap: create a token of your choice:
create an artifact with "Tap: create a colorless artifact with( tap: add 3 colorless mana)
create any mox from o. g. mox cycle.
create a land token of your choice except it loses Legendary if it is: Wasteland, Nykthos, Tolarian Academy, Ancient Tomb, Gaea's Cradle, Cabal Coffers, Fable Passage
Literally everyone underestimates Nesting Grounds... One of these days, people will notice it.. One of these days...
@Nitpicking Nerds I wish Tabernacle was around $1500, its currently listed as a market price of $3888 on TCGplayer.
Well that is just dumb lol
Great vid. Are y'all doing deck upgrades for the Battle for baulders gate precons? Would like to see party time and exit from exile's. I made the rivateers rampage modifications and it's one of my favorite decks
"Top 10 cards below a certain number of decks" would be interesting, I think. many of these top 10s are about cards that are already popular and well known.
They are about cards that are known for sure but rankings arent designed to be flash :)
See you at Tier1Con :)
Dual commenting, i think there is an argument for Urza's saga being higher than 9
Great Video 👍
I love otawara and alchemist’s refuge
My favorite land has got to be westvale abbey. Puts in a ton of work in my Edgar markov deck.
I do love that land
Suddenly, Elesh Norn becomes the top commander on EDHRec... Land destruction becomes the new meta...
I've never seen field of the dead do anything considering how much people love it. I think standard it was good but Ive just never seen it make more than 2 or 3 zombies in a game. It has just got cut from all my decks, great trade in though! 👍
I dont think fotd is actually an utility land, its a combo piece/part of a larger labdfall package. 2 or 3 zombies by the lategame deffinitelly isnt worth a colorless tapland. Play it on landfall? You have too many bodies and can do whatever you want. People will need to boardwipe every single turn just so you dont kill them.
@@Blackvolttage I've seen it make maybe 10 zombies in a game in a dedicated high level landfall deck, definitely better value than a basic in that for sure
I play Yarok landfall, and him doubling the zombies earned with each land, and doubling ramp, so that wood elves, could grab a forest, and a snow-covered forest. Thats two names. But with field of the dead online, a wood elves would grab two lands which would then produce four zombies, 4 2/2s, a 1/1, and ramping two lands is insane value for 3 mana
It makes zombies with the oinly downside being a tapped land. It ask nothing of you and gives you actual creatures
@@NitpickingNerds okay fine, I guess I was just confused by its big price tag as it never seemed justified
Ey commander Montreal! That’s where I live! Cant wait to meet you guys there! : ) Btw, where is the link, I don’t see it in your description?
Beezy is adding it now
Top ten best ways to reference Field of the Dead GO!
Beezy does love himself some field of the dead
@@NitpickingNerds 😂👍🙌
oh, i run elesh with urborg and kormus bell, never had the chance to pull it off, but it's there. the bell on it's own is brutal with elesh in some games tho.
It is spicy when you make it happen
fetch lands are better in legacy vintage and modern. i get that they fetch things but like you get one copy of the fetches and one copy of a something that’s worth fetching, basics are generally the last thing to fetch, i don’t run fetch lands in commander because i don’t think they are anywhere as strong as they are in constructed formats
Moxfield ad is obviously at 16:43
Edit: I was wrong :(
No one will ever win1
I wonder if Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale stacks with Magus of the Tabernacle and Pendrell Mists?
By themselves, Urborg taps for one black mana and Yavimaya taps for one green mana. What did you mean @ 19:23 both don't produce any mana by themselves?
I have to say Urborg is significantly better than yavimaya. It has so many more pay offs.
I think it is really close but if I had to pick I would pick Urborg
You guys are coming to Montreal?
I love how these guys hate each other
We are best friends :)
Marchesa + the Court's + Hall of Heliod = 😭
stripmine + titania is hilarious
Where was Bojuka bog?
My birthday is Friday. Make it a good one please!
Card List so you don't have to view the whole thing:
1. Island
2. Island
3. Island
4. Island
5. Island
6. Island
7. Revised Island
8. Unlimited Island
9. Beta Island
10. Alpha Island
Island sucks compared to these bad boys!
Oh my god I have the same birthday as amber!! 😂😂
I'm so mad that Volrath's Stronghold is on the reserved list. I'd love to put it in a bunch of decks, but it's absolutely not worth $75 or whatever. Hopefully at some point they do an almost-functional reprint (or better yet, just abolish the RL).
Proxies are a thing that exists
Lost me at abolish the RL, I don't mind certain cards keeping value over time.
@@baconsir1159 Original versions of cards still maintain most of their value. Most vintage cards get their value from their historic/collectable attributes, rather than from their value as game pieces. A lot of them don't even see much play. For an example of what I mean, look at the price of Alpha/Beta Shivan Dragons. The card itself as a game piece is virtually worthless, you can get them for a couple cents, but Alpha/Beta Shivan Dragons cost thousands of dollars.
Also, tell me you've speculated on RL cards without telling me you've speculated on RL cards ;)
@@sailorforce Sure, that's fine, I just don't personally really like playing with proxies. I'm very much in favor of people using them and punishing WotC as much as possible, I just don't really like using them myself. As someone who spent my entire childhood playing with LEGOs, it's very similar to how I wouldn't want to mix Mega Bloks in with my LEGOs.
you can find a gold bordered copy in Moderate to heavy play for about 25-30 dollars bro. i got one at star city for my yawgmoth deck
Very surprised at no glacial chasm, or maze of ith!
Well that’s because maze of ith is awful
Many mtg discord communities, including the NN Community, deny that fetch lands make a noticeable impact on the game. Glad to see you guys disagree.
Tried Moxfield. Really hate that the check boxes next to the cards in your deck are for whether the card is in your "collection" instead of if you acquired a copy for the deck you're building. Who thinks this makes any sense?
I am not sure what check box you are talking about
@@NitpickingNerds The circle to the right of the card. When I made my first deck I thought it was a really handy way to know if you had acquired the card for the deck yet. But when I made my second deck, some of the cards were already checked. Who would care about what's in your collection when you're in the individual deck interface? There should be a separate section that shows all the cards in your collection, though I have no idea why anyone would keep track of that on Moxfield anyway. Who is going to enter a bunch of cards they have no intention of putting in decks into Moxfield? If you're going to do it anywhere, you should do it on TCG or something because that automatically adds cards you buy to your collection saving you a TON of time. Huge design flaw in my opinion and makes it less useful than other methods.
how is tabernacle not no. 2?
What about emeria the sky ruin?? It can be busted too
*personal question* Joe is your hair purple? Or is it just a camera illusion? Lol
How could alchemist refuge,winding canyon and maze not get mentioned
Before I start I have a feeling, field of the dead is #1 🙄😅
RIP 😩
Close but no cigar
I'd classify yavimaya/urborg/fetches as fixing lands rather than utility, although i can see calling them that.
In mono blue, Yavivmaya is actually just free busted utility with acid rain to effectively just play Armageddon.
love cheese cards 🧀
I stick with my poor mans strip mine ghost quarter yeah i cant hit basics but everything else
What kind of monster would strip mines a basic land?
@@ramuslatsman6944 theres always that guy
Some guy played tabernacle at an lgs. He was kinda a jerk if you could believe that
I know you guys gave your definition of what utility lands are, but I really disagree with fetches being considered utility lands. Their primary purpose is fixing, and while they do have very real upsides of shuffling, filling the graveyard, and creating extra landfall triggers, I would say that to be considered a utility land, people should be primarily playing it for non-fixing reasons.
Also, Field of the Dead is placed way too low. I truly think every single deck should be playing that card, regardless of what their color identity is.
So even if the primary function is fixing it doesn't change the fact that they are utility as well.