"But Maxwell only has 75 health" (Day 51 Boss Rush as Maxwell, but With 15 Maximum Health)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Maxwell but he has 15 max health. He's still extremely good. I feel like it wouldn't be very hard to shave off a few more days so I might try this again some day.
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This video’s pacing turned out much different than the Wortox boss rush so I want some feedback on that.
Also, I recommend trying 15 health Maxwell for yourself. As I say in the video, it’s surprisingly fun. The link for the mod is in the description.
As far as pacing goes, I personally would prefer more attention to showing/explaining the boss fights. Even if the fights are repetitive, I think this kind of gameplay is fresh to most viewers so it'd be better to show the entire fight (along with using mods like Epic Health Bar to indicate how much damage is being done) even if it means speeding up the footage if you feel like the fight took too long.
Obviously it's a great video as is, but since no one has provided feedback on the pacing yet I thought I'd (hopefully) start the conversation by giving my take.
@@lardee1373 yeah it's funny saying "then I repeated these two abilities until the boss died" but it'd be even funnier to show it off in awkward silence
>Fuel Weaver Day 21
>Dies to Tallbird
Yeah that about sums up this game
>pick the hot weed
>overheat and die
This actually happened to me.
@@MrSillyheadSr
>try to get twigs
>it accidentally got in fire
>still tried to cut the tree for some twigs
>dies
>my book also died which caused another death
I’m just silly >-
"First I summon minions, then I cast Shadow Prison. And I repeat those spells over and over again. This fight costs x nightmare fuel."
So called hard to play character
Shadow prison? Some bosses don't even need that. For klaus, I just wait.
@@MrSillyheadSrEles não atacam os cervos?
Vc tem que spawnar eles longe do range do Boss e atacar somente o Boss
@@marcelofontanagiro4783not if you spawn them further away, as long as they don’t enter the actual attack range you can just hit klaus and they’ll attack him and ignore the deer since they only target what you’re actively fighting if they don’t have anyone in their initial spawn radius
I have come here to confirm that Maxwell is indeed gaming
what you dare comment before me? thats it im turning on my keyboard
Maxwell gaming
holy shit maxwell gaming
wagstaff: don't starve
I find it hilarious that Maxwell’s only downside of low health is negated entirely by using night armor, which he is conveniently immune to the only downside of
And then the backpack slots are replaced by the tophat slots
Also can get nightmare fuel easily by himself while also chopping down tons of wood
“A recent video has brought to our attention the balance issues with a certain character. Due to this, we will be changing Maxwell’s max health from 75 to 1.”
After playing this, part of me genuinely wants Maxwell to have 15 health in the actual game. Give him a REAL downside
@@eberferatu2324 it doesn't make any sense for his character though, they'd have reason to look elsewhere for a downside.
It also doesn't take into account the difference between pro and normal players. For any casual player or anyone who just isn't really good at teh game, having half the normal health is a problem, and there are characters who gain extra health in this game, like Wolfgang. For a pro player the health addition may be irrelevant, if a mere 15 health is enough, why need 300? Why need wx-78's health boost either? Normal players gain greatly, though, myself included, as I am moderately good but not impervious to attack.
a few ideas:
- will refuse to do all basic chores (picking bushes, chopping/mining/hammering/digging/paddling)
- maxwell can give tools to his shadow puppets (eg. oar, hammer, pitchfork)
- working (eg. hammer/paddle) is now replaced with “order”. this mechanic makes his shadow puppets act as a proxy for majority of his actions
- maxwell can do basic chores but only via lazy items (eg. turf-raiser helm, shadow reaper)
@@supbruh7793 No basic chores at all would just suck, worse efficiency would be better ngl, also make him complain thr whole time lol
@feartheghus Also for laggy players who can't afford better internet/device, his low hp can already be deadly.
TLDW;
Eberferatu summoned minions, caged the bosses, and continued spamming those two abilities for most of the bosses. All for incredibly high cost of like 5 nightmare fuel per boss
The video we've all been waiting for.
I PROMISE I’m getting faster at making these
Very true
For drawing toad's aggro while duelists are alive, go behind the pond and /dance to recall the duelists and toad will just aggro onto you. once hes behind the pond you can just prison him there
What kills chatacters with Low HP/Funni Quirk:
Bosses: Rarely ever.
Dumb Mistakes: Yes.
Very nice run!
I'd like to add one point because I didn't hear it mentioned: shadow sneak doesn't just guarantee nightmare fuel drops, it adds nightmare fuel drops onto the existing table. This means shadow splumonkeys drop 1.5 nightmare fuel instead of 0.5.
Huh. I never noticed.
One of those moments where there is no downside if you are just that good in the game, but i think the problem is more with Beefalos than with his downside being "not enough"
Fair argument but there are multiple reasons outside of beefalo why low health doesn’t really matter
1. There’s night armor which Maxwell doesn’t lose sanity from
2. Maxwell can just stay back and let dualists do the work
3. 75 health is enough to survive several attacks from bosses, even with just a football helmet. For example dragonfly takes 5 hits to kill you in that situation
4. Healing is instant, you just need to take a moment to be back at full health
@eberferatu2324 beefalo are also becoming more and more redundant
Summons minions
Cages
Refuses to elaborate
Profit
4:30 in case anyone wonders, even tho the monkeys are already shadowed, using this spell on them is not pointless. Not only does it guarantees the fuel drop, but the original 50% chance dosen't go away. You get 3 times as much fuel.
basically, it turns into a 50% chance to drop x2 nightmare fuel? that's actually sick
Amazing video and rush Eber!! The funny part is I just realized you had 15 hp when you died to the tallbird lol, and thanks for the quote 😁!!!
Thanks!
You lose: half of your health.
You gain:
Free use of nightmare gear , lots of cheap powerfull minions , ability to destroy forests with a glance , and collect items from your berry , grass and twig farms quickly , free inventory space , ability to read wickerbottom books (making her a swap character for maxwell) , ability to cage bosses , making them not a threat for a few secconds , ability to kill all regular mobs for free , fightless source of nighmare fuel (the only resource you really need as maxwell) ,a sanity regeneration , almost on par with tam o' shanter and some belly rubs , for being a good maxwell-picking boy.(/girl)
Ballanced i ' d say.
(Also: woody.
Drawbacks:
a bit of a harder summer.
You have to stay still for a few secconds durring full moon to regain human form.
Wins:
Free tools
Free weapon and armor
Free exploration speed
And then they buffed him.)
Woodie was pretty bad though
@@eberferatu2324 that's true!)
But interstingly ebough it might have been by design. He had no niech , but was ok at everything.
At least i view him as such.
Still true , he was bad.
But now they added the forbiden thing: the skill that turns off his last remaining downside.
Well technicaly he has one more: he cant eat more than one cooked monster meat.
And well , has a tiny bit of a harder summer.
Ever without this skill he is mostly just a better willson.
Its kinda funny. He is either a better willson(early game)
Or he is the most anoying character to play under the sun.(lunar event starts , or wickerbottom joins the server.)
"BuT he transformes after eating monster food" is even less of a downside than 75 hp.
Its borring.
Good downside makes character interesting.
Wortox has to consume souls to survive , willow had to watch her sanity once , wigfrid has to charge the enemy , wickerbottom relyes on sanity food , wx is a steamtruck that has to work to get really powerfull, but then has to worry about not getting wet, wormwood has to rely on alternative medicine ... i , to be honest run out of meaningfull downsides in modern dst. Either my memory is failing , or most of them are not impactfull enough to change your playstyle?
Woody wasn't powerfull.
But he had no downsides that would realy matter.
He was slightly better at everything, but with no fun or engaging drawbacks.
Now he is good at everything, with posibly no drawbacks at all.(thou , i am shadow wrangler fan. I think it defynes woody playstyle , letting you embrace the curse. Instead of denying it.
I loved it! Well played man.
Thank you!
Maxwell don’t starve
Maxwell don’t starve
What a good temporary secret video
Allow me to explain how the fight goes:
Basically, first I summon minions. Then I cage the boss. Then I continue spamming those two abilities. The fight cost about 1 nightmare fuel.
İ came here from Lardee's community post, and i can say you're trully a good Maxwell main, good video
That was a very fun watch, and also hilarious how strong maxwell is ahaha. thanks for the video!
Please come back, our child needs you 🥺🥺
Is this an Isaac reference???
Maxwell and Wendy is the power combo of the century, one deals with single targets and locks enemies in place, the other deals with swarms and makes you deal more damage the longer it takes to kill something
What in the Alabama
Wanda is pretty amazing as well considering she can outrange most bosses
For me his best combo is Wickerbottom, Farm&Swarm duo op as hell
Uncle and niece
Remember when people hated the maxwell rework and call him weaker because of it?
Good times.
Thank you for making this video. I can't believe some people think Maxwell is difficult to play as lmao.
17:36 “I died again during the fight because of a piece of flint”
Me: relatable
Edit: I’m not kidding guys, I literally died to a rock as Maxwell 💀
I like these types of videos because it teaches me about characters I underrestimated, I'll try Maxwell now
Maxwell is just insane he power creep the entire game
now maxwell with 1 hunger and 1 hp
Dang, you can get a saddle by day 2 nice skill. I always get it by day 4 or 5
Fight Toadstoll - Die to a flint 😂😂😂😂😂
Amazing video dude!
Rejoice! The benevolent eberferatu has blessed us with a video!
I’m scared for when he gets his skill tree… idk what they’ll do but it’s gonna be crazy.
I'm pretty excited for it honestly. As strong as he is now, he still has quite a few flaws and limitations his skill tree could address, specifically regarding planar enemies and bosses.
@@omarsongaming3255 Dude, he needs small nerfs, not to get buffs that make him even stronger
@MaximusChivus clearly you've never tried fighting planar bosses as maxwell. He only needs buffs against planar enemies specifically, not all enemies. I definitely don't think he really needs any nerfs, though. He's pretty well balanced as he is now outside of rift content, and changing any of his core abilities would probably mess him gameplay wise. The role he fills in the game is perfectly fine as it is now.
@@omarsongaming3255 he's absolutely not balanced lmao no he's cracked as shit, also i said this earlier but maxwell vs planar is very much fine.
he's simultaneously the best gatherer, has the highest damage potential, prison breaks pretty much every boss, accesses all of another incredible character's perks freely, has 12 slots of inventory that can teleport items back and forth and on top of all this has no real downside. codex costs a fraction of a nf per use and bone helm completely removes any sanity that needs to be sunk into casting or reading. pretty much the only category he's not the best at is teleporting but only 2 chars have teleportation perks anyway.
on the note of planar, he really suffers the least out of any pre-skill tree combat character. duelists (and grumble bees) do a lot of weaker hits as opposed to wolfgang doing a lot of damage per hit, so they suffer far less reduction per hit than he does. while the same goes for follower characters in general, the only followers that are both good at surviving and immediately replacable to use vs planar enemies are maxwell's shadows, since they only take up to15 to 30 damage max per hit, no matter the damage source.
Maxwell may or may not be overpowered. But what's definatly overpowered is beefalo, and not in fun way either, in every character is beefalo way
Beefalo drastically speed up a very boring and time consuming part of the game so I will always use them
Now you can get the true wizard experience, dying to literally anything.
The new planar damage is deadly to Maxwell and Wanda. You should make a run fighting the newer bosses with planar attack.
Maxwell does fine against planar stuff. Dualists are less effective but it’s still very easy
Beefalo may as well be their own character to play.
broken op!?
Nooo you can't just spam shadow prison & duelist to kill the boss
Maxwell: Haha codex go burr
Uiiii maxwell is so nice. I rly enjoy the beequeen rush on him
im so glad maxwell is getting attention
Oh no, an advanced character performs well when you play him well! I guess thats why all the speedruns are done on Maxwell instead of Wolfgang.
Maxwell really isn’t hard to play. Get a beefalo and you’ve almost entirely removed the downside
A point he makes often in the video is that its hilarious easy to negate his main downside and for a large portion of players it doesn’t take more than a couple of days to combat it, night armor, a beefalo, hell even an alchemy Engine and a football helmet and you Can be set for a while
I love Maxwell!
Very good video
The strength of Maxwell has been debated for a long time
I love playing Maxwell but i have never killer Fuelwever. I hope to one day, Thank you for the video, it will help guide me in the right direction.
When Maxwell gets a Skill tree what would you like him to have, maybe some plainer damage on his duelist?
its funny how an endgame boss like inkblights just die in a few minutes when paired against his duelists
You can ride the beefalo during toadstool if you use a fire staff to burn the trees
Yeah. I thought I wouldn’t have had enough red gems to use purely fire staffs but in hindsight I think I did. Also in hindsight I think not using the beefalo was better anyway because of the increased damage I could do.
devious gaming skill
If I remember correctly in the solo game summoning his shadows would limit your max hp as well as sanity, I think that would be a good change.
I think that would be a fun change
A few minutes in and I genuinely forgot that you were capped at 15 health. I only remembered nearing the end of the fuel weaver fight.
allow him to explain how the fights go
This guy eats magnets
I am 2 months late to this, but I would like to draw your attention to the fact that Maxwell doesn't even have a skill tree yet.
When he does, there will be blood... So much blood...
Although maxwell capabilities for getting huge amount of wood any day, I still prefer unpaid labor for my piggies
cheap spells go brrr is funny but maxwell feels like he's not for newbies to play as
How do you feel about the dreadstone armor? together they're really durable with no penalty to sanity because Maxwell, AND gives a nice bonus to shadow damage.
It’s good for Maxwell and I would have made it had I killed werepig before Fuelweaver
How busted beefalo are with Maxwell:
Actually to fight klaus's deers you just need to freeze the fire one with 1 hit ice staff, then you can lock them both away from klaus and not to worry about his deer spells anymore, easier menthod
That’s a good option but I was going to kill bee queen anyway so I think using jellybeans was cheaper
that beefalo did more than those shadow duelists 💔💔💔💔
In combat? Absolutely not. Rider only does 25 damage a hit while fully buffed shadow dualist do 60
@@eberferatu2324 i meant in emotional support duhh!!
maxwell gaming
wait, wouldn't day 51 be the world record for all bosses solo? if so, that's crazy
It isn’t. The record is 37 days by Guille. His list of bosses was a bit different but it’s still absolutely insane and obliterated all other competition
@@eberferatu2324 dang thats crazy. and I thought jakey and catperson were the record holders before.
@@eberferatu2324 hey can you put a link to the video here? I cant find it on his channel
@@thet6462 it’s currently unlisted and unedited. He’s going to make a proper video out of it but you can still find it on forums and discord. Anyway, here’s the link th-cam.com/video/gBiMnSpuQNc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=k9bAD6cOt0RLW6jG
Edit: actually it isn’t unlisted, just on his second channel
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This is true for pc but I honestly think casting characters will always be balanced on controller because you can’t do the finer stuff willow would be the best for console IMO but maxwell is definitely busted on pc especially with the no downside night armour removing the health penalty
Nice vid but id favor a full none clipped none edited and none commentary if possible.
It’s linked in the description
great video!
Lookmaxwell
cool thumbnail
Meatgood drew it
@@CreeperDjtownI love that guy
Interestingly enough , i'd say that this is the only unbalanced maxwell itteration in dont starve history.
His pre-rework state sucked for combat. Which makes total sence.
In most situations he was just willson with 75 health.
I remember respecting any and every maxwell who would do mostly combat.
Duelists , debqtably , lacked any use.
Sometimes they were fina , but not always.
And in solo i see him as somewhat of a snowball character, but with a crutch.
His insane sanity regeneration at the start of the world playing against you , because , as maxwell , you want as much nightmare fuel as possible.
And his night armor and sword are less of a sweet litle bonus , as they are an esential part of his kit.
He can maintain insanity only throu their use , and throu eating anti-sanity food, which , playing as maxwell , i discovered to be a way smaller group than it seemed as any other character.
Basicaly just green mushrooms , and cooked moster meat if you got healing.
His need for nightmare fuel , and insane sanity regen flips the game on its head.
Now if you are not smart with your starting kit , you may find yourself in a situation , where getting more nightmare fuel is a painfull chore , and you ll have to wither painfully grind to get your initial sanity-lowering suply , or will have to visit ruinst just to run around from nightmares.
But if you are smart , and manage to rush magic , and use nighmare fuel for a nighmare light , you just increased your farrming rate.
And then you shall spare your sword and armor until you are sure that you could make another one ,because they are your best friends in fuel farming.
Its actually quite fun to rise to power , and then to use shadow armor and a football helmet to become a tank in your shadow party , and to start feeling confident with minions , and being able to spare some nightmare fuel and health.
Also health cost really adds up to the ealygame cost of minions.
You can just basicly kill yourself if you aint carefull, redusing your overall low health even lower.
Solo maxwell really flips the game on its head , and is hold back not only be a downside (mattering way more , because he needs to participate in fights , or feed his own health to monsters.), but also cost of one of his upsides(15 health per cast and n.f.) , and shier unforgiving power of the other.(harder to collect early game n.f.)
Overall , he is a bit stronger than a character should be , but he is literaly the big great reward chqracter.
He emight be a puppet master , but he still needs to get his hands dirty.
Free nightmare fuel generation , cheap casts, and easy ways to get insane , might just be the biggest problems of moddern maxwell.
Well aside from the whole "where we but a round block? Correct , in the square hole" aproach to the most bossdights, and generaly to most treats.
If its not a boss , he would just cast shadow sneak instead of prison , because this one is op too...
WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE GOT A STRONGER VERSION OF IT FOR WILLOW!?
aight pack it up maxwell we know its you who made this video 😭😭🙏🙏
Hi, I’m Maxwell
Oh my god it's Maxwell
Epic video
nubi
ok watching this vdeio made me realise maxwell looks alot like my uncle
0/10 no Bearger kill.
5:50 what 'Atrium Bridge'? What are you talking about
It’s a piece of land in the ruins that seems to point towards the atrium. I’m standing on it at 5:57
No no no but he has low max HP
I already have too many worlds for waxmell.
They're all Wanda worlds 🧖
There is nothing wrong with having maxwell at very high percs since he is originally unlocked upon beating adventure mode and that was part of the reward so later on attempting to adjust him to balance and fit with dst is a great job regardless being the case or not since again he was originally an awesome end game character reward
Carter has one of the best reworks ever, hope Klei never nerfs him bc he is awesome for destroying Raid Bosses in Solo
Klei almost never does nerfs but I’d be happy to see his max health reduced to something actually threatening
He still needs to be somewhat playable for casuals though
balanced i think
Something off about the voice
Can you use the health bar mod?
I’d rather not for a few reasons but if enough people want it then I’ll consider it
Do what you prefer bro
Eberfergyattue
"But Looksmaxxwell only has 75 grimace shakes" (Day 51 Edge Streak as Looksmaxxwell, but With 15 Hardmaxximum Rizz)
You hurt my brain
@@Potato_Tomato-od2lz i'll see you on the dark side of the moon
This makes me wanna pull an Odin
I hope you feel bad
@@amanjii701 my stomach hurts you win
Why my beefalo can't go to cave with me?
Use a beefalo bell to your beefalo
part two when
I so think I made some very avoidable mistakes (mostly in the form of bad routing which I didn’t show) so I might try this again some day
Not even 1 max health smh
Maxwell's only real problem right now is that while he's very powerful against pre-rift bosses and enemies, he's extremely weak against planar enemies and bosses to the point of being almost completely ineffective against them, which is made even worse by the fact that he doesn't benefit anything or made stronger whatsoever by any of the celestial champion/lunar rifts gear. Hopefully, his skill tree will address this soon.
You can still feasibly throw some nightmare fuel at a boss to kill it
@eberferatu2324 Sure, but the large amount of health planar bosses possess combined with planar entity protection and the fact that almost all planar enemies have devastating area of effect attacks results in your duelists dealing significantly less damage AND dying extremely quickly, causing fights against planar bosses to become highly time consuming and repetitive, which in turn makes them tedious and annoying. That's not exactly a fun gameplay experience. Planar entity protection literally cuts the damage of your duelists down by almost 50%.
1. each piece of void gear gives him tier 3 buffs for his duelists, so you can have 56 damage duelists while still holding a weapon that can do up to 88 damage per hit when ramped up, while also ignoring its sanity drains per usual maxwell style
as for the defensive side of things, void gear maxwell can still survive two full rasp chomps or slap combos
2. nah, even when thrown against planar enemies the duelists + cage are super bullshit powerful and extremely cheap regardless
Thousandth
berfer
Hi Guille!!!
atu
w video
gonna give maxwell a try
Have fun!