I had coworker once who told me that cheating on your spouse is okay, you just have to do it in MODERATION. He was dead serious. someone please tell me that's a ridiculous thing to say to someone.
Beating your spouse is okay.... Drinking and driving is okay.... Storming Congress in an attempted coup is okay... Well shit, I was against all these things until I realized that moderation is the key. Must have missed that memo.
Cheating on his wife was already bad, but the moment Jeff threw her mother's abuse in her face, he showed the garbage of a human being that he was. He deserved everything he got and then some.
Okey, you made me changed my views on the man. Thank you. Yes, the moment you use something so intimate, you cross a line. It's like during a fight between my girlfriend and I, I mention or say something mean about her dear late mom, who sadly passed away relatively recently, as of the moment this comment is written. Not only would she be devastated and memories and emotions would show, but she'd go murderous and ravenous with grief and rage.
@@sweetsugarystars2378 And so did OP. Should anyone ever bring this to the attention of authorities with appropriate proof ... This story features two scumbags, as evidenced by OP destroying the personal belongings of Jeff which Eileen specifically asked him to send him back. OP is no better than Jeff, he just happened to use his scumbag powers against a fellow scumbag by chance ...
In the lawyer story, OP was standing up for an older woman who was like family and had clearly been deeply damaged by what Jeff did. And I think that's great. There's no better revenge in my mind than the one you take for the sake of somebody else who was wronged.
@@shells500tutubo no he really did. He used Lexus Nexus to look not for legal case studies but for a personal vendetta. You’re not allowed to use resources like that for personal issues. Many cops, nurses, doctors and lawyers have lost their jobs for doing that. OP better hope no one he knows used Reddit and links what happened.
@@SUPERVEGITO896 the boat part where the ex lost a lawsuit, seems to me he done something illegal. And even when if it wasn't illegal it was deceitful. And too many people use the law to get away with deceitful behaviour. Sometimes when dealing with shitty people if you stick to the confines of the law, your playing checkers when the other side is playing chess. Why do you think even the law uses moles/ undercover agents?
I think the Jeff and Eileen thing was just desserts. He lived off her for a whole year when he had the funds and means to make funds. He screwed her out of alimony, a years worth of reserve funds and her dignity. When it’s family it’s personal and I would most definitely wreck them.
I'm surprised Eileen's lawyer did not try to find out if Jeff had quit or was fired from his job. Maybe Eileen told the lawyer she didn't want alimony, so there was no reason to find out why Jeff left his job?
@@diffuusio4852 Because he technically stole money from her. He lived off her for a year when he obviously had extra money laying around and she should get compensation/get back what she spent on him when he could clearly pay for himself or at least help with paying for stuff.
Yes for OP. They just used knowledge they had to help someone they loved. This wasn't a law case and they were a law student not a lawyer. Knowledge is key in the best revenge plot.
To the people in story 2 saying that Jeff didn't do anything to them, WRONG. Family is who you love and who loves you and doesn't end with blood and laws. I have an Aunt Eileen (dif name) and if someone did that to her it would be the same as if she was blood.
What you said is so true. When a spouse cheats that person doesn’t just cheat on the spouse. They cheat on the kids, the in-laws, his parents who believed they raised a decent child and everyone else who trusted him. So many are hurt and disillusioned. A divorce for these reasons is worse in a way than a death in the family because it is the death of love, esteem and trust and instead of people drawing closer in sympathy, they are torn apart with suspicion. As a spouse who was cheated on by a husband raised in a devout Christian family I feel somewhat rejected by some who assumed that I must have failed him miserably by making him unhappy in some way. Was a good wife? God only knows, I tried to be, but I was never good enough. I must not have been. I was replaced by a stripper.
only if there is no doubt of their guilt and the law has it's hands tied. Honestly I'd have tried to nab him for the money. you going to fake your way out of paying alimony, lose it all sucker
someone had to stick up for and defend Eileen and OP was the only one around that was equipped to do it, so why not? Sometimes, justice is the justice and penal code systems; but other times, its vengeance served by a dear and close friend of the victim.
Sometime justice/vengeance is, as in this story, a nice, warm comfy blanket that one can wrap around oneself and just give a contented sigh at a job of work well done.
Justice and morality or ethics are often different things. OP did good, righting a severe wrong. Sometimes ethics must take a backseat to do what is truly right.
@@lancerevell5979 yes exactly!! Calling OP a 'scumbag lawyer" was wrong and kinda harsh too! I think some of the 'bad lawyer' comments left were, possibly, a little bit biased, and were, most likely, based on either their own prejudice or their own, bad, personal experiences.
What OP did wasnt illegal. He merely used skills he learned at work to *help* give Jeff some payback. Was it immoral? Maybe. Was it unethical? Possibly. Was it deserved? Absolutely. I thought he might have taken it too far, up until the moment Jeff threw Eileen's maternal abuse in her face. After that, I think anything was fair game. Unluckily for Jeff, and luckily for OP and Eileen, OP knew how to play the game, how to play it well, and how to play to win. Good on OP for standing up for Eileen after all that Jeff did. This could possibly be classed as nuclear revenge, its that impressive! Lol 😆
It is illegal for an employer to do so here in Australia. Unfortunately many immigrants don’t know this or don’t trust the law to protect them and let employers get away with wage theft.
@@lztx Basically: Red Hood was Jason Todd (the second Robin) he was infamous for Being a bad Robin and DC asked their readers if Jason Should live or die and the fans killed him, until he came back to Life as the now Anti-Hero Red Hood
Story 2: fully siding with OP, Jeff deserved very bit of what he got, and to those saying op was being unethical, sometimes you have to be morally grey to set things right.
The guy who cheated on his wife kind of deserved it. He lied to her about being made redundant, stole money from her, had an affair, and gas lit her. Once you do that, you've lost all rights to sympathy.
Jeff had it coming. Jeff was a swindler ie selling a boat with undisclosed problems. Jeff was a liar ie telling Eileen he lost his job, while planning his exit. Jeff was a cheater. Jeff was a lawbreaker ie making unpermitted revisions/additions after his construction inspection. Jeff was a douche ie flirting with his new assistant. Jeff was introduced to Karma by OP. Sweet Karma had her way with Jeff. Jeff had it coming. OP, Eileen is fortunate to have people in her life like you and your mom.
And those who say OP was in the wrong are probably Jeff's friends or Jeff himself whining because they got caught. It's almost like the ax murderer who killed his parents and then asked for mercy because he is an orphan. Jeff is whining because he was emotionally unfaithful to his new wife, whining because the new boat owner found out Jeff swindled him, butthurt about losing money on the house he contracted by using mostly Eileen's money. Cry me a river.
Yeah but what OP didn’t just affect just at also affected his wife if you go to the original story he says that the wife was pregnant… he more than likely didn’t cheat on her and most of the things he did were illegal
I disagree: Jeff wasn't made to suffer *enough!* In particular, he didn't get hit for alimony. As for his second wife, well she consented to getting involved with a married man, so doubt she's exactly innocent. Her getting pregnant is unfortunate. However, scumbag spawn is one of the things abortion is for. If not, at least the bastard should get slapped for child support, which is to the good!
@@misanthropichumanist4782 so what he didn’t get hit for alimony. You’re acting as if he took Eileen for everything she had given she was loaded. They both left the marriage solvent.
Someone had to be there for Eileen.. Jeff totally got what they deserved. I had an ex much like Jeff- I wish someone had done that for me. Though, they are now getting what they deserve. I agree with a comment below mine- the vigilante revenge is great
Eh, my 'Jeff' called me not long ago begging myself and my now husband to get tested because he drank himself into liver failure 🙄. Naw, dude, we're good. You left because you couldn't handle my medical issues because of genetics, remember? I hung up when he started screaming at me.
Agreed. I was that person for my friend-not to OP's extent, though I did cause some damage... To this day her ex is terrified of me because to him I sound like a complete psychopath. No, I just don't take kindly of abuser. She's happier now, she's married to a great guy we all actually like. I grew up with her, so it was personal because she was more like a sister than a friend.
@@nixxyhasthoughts but he got that information through questionable means, he effectively hacked into his Jeff's private email. I'll be honest, I don't know enough of US law, but that would likely be enough to have this information thrown out in court here, with a bonus compensation claim against op. If a murderer murders a child molester by accident, nobody feels much remorse for that child molester, but the murderer is still a murderer.
WRT to the Jeff and Eileen: If Jeff concealed assets during the divorce proceedings that is hugely illegal. The divorce could be reopened and Jeff could be heavily penalized.
The second Jeff stole from Eileen (hiding assets and taking money for the new house), he doesn't deserve any sympathy at all. The only thing I found wrong was the photos, OP probably didn't go through them and may have thrown out something important.
Re: the second story. OP wasn't *completely* in the right, but not even close to as bad as Jeff. Jeff not only cheated, they manipulated and emotionally abused Eilein and OP uncovered a pattern of that behaviour. OP just made sure Jeff got their just desserts.
The lawyer story. OP actually wasn't a lawyer yet, so yes, while it seemed to be highly unethical on it's face, it's not something that would actually cost him his law license since all of it was done prior to him getting his law license.
As far as I'm concerned, "Jeff" got a well-deserved Nuclear Revenge. I don't give a $#!+ how "unethical" OP's actions were; destroying a destroyer is a service to humanity.
I would absolutely love to speak to the person who called op "just another scum bag lawyer". I would like to know why they would never defend or help a friend, and what happened to make them such a shittty person
Lawyer story - OP may have abuse some of his "power" but he did it to stand up for someone that had no one throughout her life, not her husband, not her mother, etc. OP good for you for putting that sorry excuse of a man in his place. For those calling you unethical, blah, blah, blah... let's see what they will be willing to do if it was someone they love and I bet anything that they will go to those lengths too if they could.
@@pansprayers LOL! Agreed. Though I was thinking what OP did was more of what the show Leverage was based on, protecting those who can't protect themselves.
@@pansprayers I get it I do. My concern was how OP jeopardized his future. Using Lexus Nexus the way he did can cost him his future as a lawyer. The smart thing for him to have done was tell Eileen about the affair and let her lawyer handle how Jeff cheated her out of alimony.
Jeff gave the universe (OP) the tools needed to serve his karma for his misdeeds. OP may have been wrong to use the tools, but *tools are meant to be used,* so that balances out. The reality that Jeff's divorce & firing were based on fiction (at least partially), is balanced by the egregious dishonesty Jeff employed to achieve his new life/wife/job/home. So, plenty of poetic justice & Eileen was empowered to move on toward a better future after devastation, trauma, & self-doubt Jeff caused her.
Really find it funny that if the OP in Story 2 wasn't a lawyer. People'd be fine and rooting for what he did. But because the dude's a lawyer, they go all "Oh! Look! Another evil, dirty lawyer, doing bad things! RAWR!!!" Like come on, some peeps need to get off their high horse.
Jeff deserved EVERY BIT of that sweet revenge from OP. He looked at Eileen as family and, at least where I live, if someone messes with your family…you go scorched earth on the bastard. I applaud OP and think he did a good thing for someone he cares about
What have we learned? Not to use the same password for everything! I have a LOT of different passwords, the only place they’re all written down is a small notebook and only I know where it is, because I’m not daft by having the same password for everything
The law student story, while yes, they should have left it be however, if they asked permission from the friend, then it's justified. The only thing people are glossing over is that the friend did acknowledge that they shouldn't have done what they did, so accusing them of doing wrong is moot.
Hey fluff. Just found you on Monday. I've binged like 80 of your episodes, of all categories. Love your voice, enthusiasm and your little character. Can't wait for more.
About the 3rd story, I work in a grocery store that has the similar policy, where if an item is overcharged, if it's under 10$ it's free, over 10$ you get a 10$ discount and it's only for the first item (other items get the overcharge off but they don't get an extra discount). The discount doesnt apply to employees either because... well I know when items are overcharged and I could abuse it to get free items.
"Your item is free if scanned at a higher price (for the first one, difference returned for the rest)" has been the policy of most grocery stores in Australia since barcodes started to be used, though I'm not sure if there was a cap. I've used that "weird trick" several times but never maliciously like in the story.
Story 2 : I get a feeling that some people not agreeing with what OP do just because one thing and one thing only.... *DELETING HIS NETFLIX WATCHLIST* 😏
Re: 2nd Story - I think OP wronged Eileen in this. After being fully able to prove that he (Jeff) fraudulently hid the money so he could keep it in the divorce, he could've constructed a case for her for restitution. He is training to be a lawyer, which has ethics attached to that profession. I don't care about Jeff in the slightest in this situation. He's a lying scumbag. 'Nuff said. (Edited because I referenced the wrong story)
OP discovered that information in a highly unethical and probably illegal way. He couldn't actually give up that information without incriminating himself. Jeff was a scumbag for sure, but that does not excuse criminal behavior on the part of OP.
If the occasion calls for it, then a lawyer should help their clients to find closure through revenge... otherwise people won't recognize lawyers as one of Law's hands anymore!
''OP had no moral authority to do anything but still engaged in highly unethical behaviour'' Since when are we talking about morals and ethics when it comes to prorevenge? If someone you love gets taken advantage of like that and you have the means to make their life a little better by getting revenge on the person who inflicted all the hurt, would you say ''Oh no I have no moral authority to do that and it's highly unethical behaviour''? What a joke
While I’m all for what OP did for Eileen that was very illegal. And if what he did ever got out or discovered. Not only would he lose his license but he would go to jail
I fully support every single thing that OP did and more. Jeff deserved exactly what he got. My biggest question is why the mistress married Jeff if she never trusted him.
I really wish that Aunt Eileen had gotten compensation somehow. I honestly thought that OP was going to bring the evidence to Aunt Eileen and she could possibly re-file (don't know if you can do this) divorce compensation due to hidden assets. That would have been way more satisfying. Aunt Eileen, who was the one who'd been wronged didn't really get anything from this. Also, yes, Jeff deserved everything that happened, but the way it happened was a little too grimy for my taste.
Nah. Team OP. All the way. I don't believe that the finger-pointers can say in crystal clear conscience that they wouldn't have done the same if they had the means and the know-how.
1st story. Wouldn't OP have been able to use the information found on aunt's computer to go back to the courts to get alimony for the aunt? Most of the other stuff, like the boat issue, would have come out. That would have been better revenge, and legal, imo.
So, genuine question for attorneys out there: Cheater Jeff hid financial assets prior to his divorce. Could the ex-wife not go after that since he literally hid assets from the court? (Yes, I understand this varies based on being a community property state, not or potentially another country).
Yes(if there isn’t a time frame where they live after the divorce), which why what OP did as a law student was so stupid. He found proof on Eileens property of this evasion all he had to do was let her know so she could decide what to do with it.
I always love when people are like "you're inherently inferior in this position, and I will prove it by...sabotaging you with petty bullshit to confirm my bias while not at all demonstrating your actual alleged inherent inferiority"
I had coworker once who told me that cheating on your spouse is okay, you just have to do it in MODERATION. He was dead serious.
someone please tell me that's a ridiculous thing to say to someone.
Very ridiculous
Yes, it is ridiculous. Tell his wife about this.
That sounds like a guy trying to justify being a scumbag.
That sounds like a cheater trying to get away with cheating
Beating your spouse is okay....
Drinking and driving is okay....
Storming Congress in an attempted coup is okay...
Well shit, I was against all these things until I realized that moderation is the key. Must have missed that memo.
Cheating on his wife was already bad, but the moment Jeff threw her mother's abuse in her face, he showed the garbage of a human being that he was. He deserved everything he got and then some.
Okey, you made me changed my views on the man. Thank you.
Yes, the moment you use something so intimate, you cross a line.
It's like during a fight between my girlfriend and I, I mention or say something mean about her dear late mom, who sadly passed away relatively recently, as of the moment this comment is written. Not only would she be devastated and memories and emotions would show, but she'd go murderous and ravenous with grief and rage.
Bruh he wronged her not op plus what he did is illegal and can go to jail
@@SUPERVEGITO896 Yeah? Jeff did illegal shit too though. He fucked up his own life.
@@sweetsugarystars2378 And so did OP. Should anyone ever bring this to the attention of authorities with appropriate proof ...
This story features two scumbags, as evidenced by OP destroying the personal belongings of Jeff which Eileen specifically asked him to send him back.
OP is no better than Jeff, he just happened to use his scumbag powers against a fellow scumbag by chance ...
Lol what he did was illegal. Not wrong, ur argument is that it was illegal. Lmao
In the lawyer story, OP was standing up for an older woman who was like family and had clearly been deeply damaged by what Jeff did. And I think that's great. There's no better revenge in my mind than the one you take for the sake of somebody else who was wronged.
But it’s illegal
@@SUPERVEGITO896 OP didn't actually do anything illegal, but set up Jeff to receive repercussions for things he did.
@@shells500tutubo no he really did. He used Lexus Nexus to look not for legal case studies but for a personal vendetta. You’re not allowed to use resources like that for personal issues. Many cops, nurses, doctors and lawyers have lost their jobs for doing that. OP better hope no one he knows used Reddit and links what happened.
@@SUPERVEGITO896 the boat part where the ex lost a lawsuit, seems to me he done something illegal. And even when if it wasn't illegal it was deceitful. And too many people use the law to get away with deceitful behaviour.
Sometimes when dealing with shitty people if you stick to the confines of the law, your playing checkers when the other side is playing chess. Why do you think even the law uses moles/ undercover agents?
@@khornebloodgod2137 the law is the law
I think the Jeff and Eileen thing was just desserts. He lived off her for a whole year when he had the funds and means to make funds. He screwed her out of alimony, a years worth of reserve funds and her dignity. When it’s family it’s personal and I would most definitely wreck them.
I'm surprised Eileen's lawyer did not try to find out if Jeff had quit or was fired from his job. Maybe Eileen told the lawyer she didn't want alimony, so there was no reason to find out why Jeff left his job?
Kyla Fuller: Agree with you completely. 👍
Now switch the genders. It happens every day lol
@@diffuusio4852 If you listened to the story she literally couldn't work that's why she has a trust fund from her parents to last her lifetime
@@diffuusio4852 Because he technically stole money from her. He lived off her for a year when he obviously had extra money laying around and she should get compensation/get back what she spent on him when he could clearly pay for himself or at least help with paying for stuff.
I'm VERY team OP. I'm happy someone was there for Eileen, even if she didn't know it.
“COME ON EILEEN”
I am too. Him being a lawyer was a bonus, but anyone with a modicum of knowledge on how the internet and email works, could have done the same stuff..
Yes for OP. They just used knowledge they had to help someone they loved. This wasn't a law case and they were a law student not a lawyer. Knowledge is key in the best revenge plot.
Jeff reaps what he sowed.
Agree completely.
To the people in story 2 saying that Jeff didn't do anything to them, WRONG. Family is who you love and who loves you and doesn't end with blood and laws. I have an Aunt Eileen (dif name) and if someone did that to her it would be the same as if she was blood.
What you said is so true. When a spouse cheats that person doesn’t just cheat on the spouse. They cheat on the kids, the in-laws, his parents who believed they raised a decent child and everyone else who trusted him. So many are hurt and disillusioned. A divorce for these reasons is worse in a way than a death in the family because it is the death of love, esteem and trust and instead of people drawing closer in sympathy, they are torn apart with suspicion. As a spouse who was cheated on by a husband raised in a devout Christian family I feel somewhat rejected by some who assumed that I must have failed him miserably by making him unhappy in some way. Was a good wife? God only knows, I tried to be, but I was never good enough. I must not have been. I was replaced by a stripper.
The lawyer story. Seriously OP went all Batman on "Jeff". So yeah vigilantly revenge is fine by me.
Yup. Eileen couldn't have done any of those things. OP was acting on her behalf. I think Jeff deserved all the misery he got!
Right?! So many crappy people get away with crappy stuff. Nice to know there is some justice in the world!
Preach it
only if there is no doubt of their guilt and the law has it's hands tied. Honestly I'd have tried to nab him for the money. you going to fake your way out of paying alimony, lose it all sucker
@@AlgeArid I am the terror that flaps in the night. I am the tapioca pudding that gets spilled on the floor.
someone had to stick up for and defend Eileen and OP was the only one around that was equipped to do it, so why not? Sometimes, justice is the justice and penal code systems; but other times, its vengeance served by a dear and close friend of the victim.
Sometime justice/vengeance is, as in this story, a nice, warm comfy blanket that one can wrap around oneself and just give a contented sigh at a job of work well done.
Cheating always comes with karma. No exceptions.
Justice and morality or ethics are often different things. OP did good, righting a severe wrong. Sometimes ethics must take a backseat to do what is truly right.
@@lancerevell5979 yes exactly!! Calling OP a 'scumbag lawyer" was wrong and kinda harsh too! I think some of the 'bad lawyer' comments left were, possibly, a little bit biased, and were, most likely, based on either their own prejudice or their own, bad, personal experiences.
What OP did wasnt illegal. He merely used skills he learned at work to *help* give Jeff some payback. Was it immoral? Maybe. Was it unethical? Possibly. Was it deserved? Absolutely. I thought he might have taken it too far, up until the moment Jeff threw Eileen's maternal abuse in her face. After that, I think anything was fair game. Unluckily for Jeff, and luckily for OP and Eileen, OP knew how to play the game, how to play it well, and how to play to win. Good on OP for standing up for Eileen after all that Jeff did.
This could possibly be classed as nuclear revenge, its that impressive! Lol 😆
Threatening someone with deportation is seriously fuckin' low.
It is illegal for an employer to do so here in Australia. Unfortunately many immigrants don’t know this or don’t trust the law to protect them and let employers get away with wage theft.
story 2: OP wasn't excatly a vigilante getting justice like Batman, more of an Anti-Hero dealing out brutal Karma like Red Hood
(r/Nuclearrevenge)
I was thinking Daredevil
@@kjb-gamesandreading3981 I haven’t seen the Daredevil series
Sometimes what you need is an anti-hero.
How have I not heard of Red Hood before now!?
@@lztx Basically: Red Hood was Jason Todd (the second Robin) he was infamous for Being a bad Robin and DC asked their readers if Jason Should live or die and the fans killed him, until he came back to Life as the now Anti-Hero Red Hood
Story 2: fully siding with OP, Jeff deserved very bit of what he got, and to those saying op was being unethical, sometimes you have to be morally grey to set things right.
Cheating has major consequences. You cheat, expect a whole hurricane to come at you.
I'm ok with the grey.
I guess the critics wouldn't be so harsh on them, if they weren't a lawyer.
No you dont
Right. And the people who say OP was unethical are the same ones who bank on the honesty of others to perpetrate their frauds and other crimes.
Not at the expense of ruining your budding career.
The guy who cheated on his wife kind of deserved it. He lied to her about being made redundant, stole money from her, had an affair, and gas lit her. Once you do that, you've lost all rights to sympathy.
Jeff had it coming. Jeff was a swindler ie selling a boat with undisclosed problems. Jeff was a liar ie telling Eileen he lost his job, while planning his exit. Jeff was a cheater. Jeff was a lawbreaker ie making unpermitted revisions/additions after his construction inspection. Jeff was a douche ie flirting with his new assistant. Jeff was introduced to Karma by OP. Sweet Karma had her way with Jeff. Jeff had it coming. OP, Eileen is fortunate to have people in her life like you and your mom.
And those who say OP was in the wrong are probably Jeff's friends or Jeff himself whining because they got caught. It's almost like the ax murderer who killed his parents and then asked for mercy because he is an orphan.
Jeff is whining because he was emotionally unfaithful to his new wife, whining because the new boat owner found out Jeff swindled him, butthurt about losing money on the house he contracted by using mostly Eileen's money. Cry me a river.
“I deleted his Netflix playlist…” petty level: ninja.
Story 2: Jeff got what was coming to him. Anyone who says otherwise has no soul. You can't change my mind.
Anybody with his morals straight can see that there are two scumbags in that story.
The ends don't justify the means. They never have ...
Yeah but what OP didn’t just affect just at also affected his wife if you go to the original story he says that the wife was pregnant… he more than likely didn’t cheat on her and most of the things he did were illegal
I disagree: Jeff wasn't made to suffer *enough!* In particular, he didn't get hit for alimony.
As for his second wife, well she consented to getting involved with a married man, so doubt she's exactly innocent. Her getting pregnant is unfortunate. However, scumbag spawn is one of the things abortion is for. If not, at least the bastard should get slapped for child support, which is to the good!
@@misanthropichumanist4782 so what he didn’t get hit for alimony. You’re acting as if he took Eileen for everything she had given she was loaded. They both left the marriage solvent.
Eileen was like an aunt to OP her entire life. I'm fine with OP doing what she did to Jeff, especially after what he did to Eileen.
I thought the second story was good. I think OP just wanted revenge for Eileen because OP thought of her as an aunt.
Someone had to be there for Eileen.. Jeff totally got what they deserved. I had an ex much like Jeff- I wish someone had done that for me. Though, they are now getting what they deserve. I agree with a comment below mine- the vigilante revenge is great
Eh, my 'Jeff' called me not long ago begging myself and my now husband to get tested because he drank himself into liver failure 🙄. Naw, dude, we're good. You left because you couldn't handle my medical issues because of genetics, remember? I hung up when he started screaming at me.
Sometimes when family is not able to stand up for themselves or get payback it is up to others to do it.
...they?!
@@Thomas-wo9ur my ex and his mistress
Agreed. I was that person for my friend-not to OP's extent, though I did cause some damage... To this day her ex is terrified of me because to him I sound like a complete psychopath. No, I just don't take kindly of abuser. She's happier now, she's married to a great guy we all actually like. I grew up with her, so it was personal because she was more like a sister than a friend.
Can’t believe people feel bad for Jeff from story 2 what pansies.
No one really felt bad for him, the complaints are about OP's actions
@@thepraetorian2368 all OP did was shine a light on what Jeff did. They didn’t manufacture anything. Play asshole games, win asshole prizes 🤷🏻♀️
@@nixxyhasthoughts but he got that information through questionable means, he effectively hacked into his Jeff's private email.
I'll be honest, I don't know enough of US law, but that would likely be enough to have this information thrown out in court here, with a bonus compensation claim against op.
If a murderer murders a child molester by accident, nobody feels much remorse for that child molester, but the murderer is still a murderer.
@@barvdw Very well said, sir (madam? Whatever title you prefer). I think you should make this a separate comment so more people can see it!
They're probably cheaters who got away with shady financial dealings and therefore side with Jeff.
WRT to the Jeff and Eileen: If Jeff concealed assets during the divorce proceedings that is hugely illegal. The divorce could be reopened and Jeff could be heavily penalized.
I know I probably sound like the ahole for saying this, but OP did a good job with Jeff. Jeff got what he deserved
For story two I 100% agree with Op
Eileen was practically op's second mother I applaud him for getting revenge for his family
The second Jeff stole from Eileen (hiding assets and taking money for the new house), he doesn't deserve any sympathy at all.
The only thing I found wrong was the photos, OP probably didn't go through them and may have thrown out something important.
Re: the second story. OP wasn't *completely* in the right, but not even close to as bad as Jeff. Jeff not only cheated, they manipulated and emotionally abused Eilein and OP uncovered a pattern of that behaviour. OP just made sure Jeff got their just desserts.
Not just Eileen but 2 other women as well. And was just a genuine douche while ending a 25 year relationship
The lawyer story. OP actually wasn't a lawyer yet, so yes, while it seemed to be highly unethical on it's face, it's not something that would actually cost him his law license since all of it was done prior to him getting his law license.
Unauthorized access would not look good on your record as a lawyer.
It will bring major doubts into any case your doing.
Also unethical does not actually mean illegal. So I do not know why that person thinks that.
The person that says that can say that but bet if op was their family and they were in that situation like eileen they would thank op for doing it
Well it could mean he won’t be getting one. WHEN he gets found out. Because “Jeff will know it was him
But he can go to jail and never receive a license
Us women are protective and vindictive. Poor Jeff never thought about the fall out. Que OP and fall out.
As far as I'm concerned, "Jeff" got a well-deserved Nuclear Revenge.
I don't give a $#!+ how "unethical" OP's actions were; destroying a destroyer is a service to humanity.
I agree with op in story two, Who wouldn't defend a beloved family member?
I would absolutely love to speak to the person who called op "just another scum bag lawyer". I would like to know why they would never defend or help a friend, and what happened to make them such a shittty person
Someone once told me, "if he'll cheat with you, he'll cheat on you."
Story 2: Should've signed him up for Scientology by email & phone, you can NEVER get off of those lists no matter how much you change your info.
Lawyer story - OP may have abuse some of his "power" but he did it to stand up for someone that had no one throughout her life, not her husband, not her mother, etc. OP good for you for putting that sorry excuse of a man in his place. For those calling you unethical, blah, blah, blah... let's see what they will be willing to do if it was someone they love and I bet anything that they will go to those lengths too if they could.
I prefer to call it 'Lawfully Chaotic'. But, having had a 'Jeff', I'm petty.
@@pansprayers LOL! Agreed. Though I was thinking what OP did was more of what the show Leverage was based on, protecting those who can't protect themselves.
@@pansprayers I get it I do. My concern was how OP jeopardized his future. Using Lexus Nexus the way he did can cost him his future as a lawyer. The smart thing for him to have done was tell Eileen about the affair and let her lawyer handle how Jeff cheated her out of alimony.
How low do you have to go to abandon your own wife I'm disappointed that he did that to his wife
Jeff gave the universe (OP) the tools needed to serve his karma for his misdeeds. OP may have been wrong to use the tools, but *tools are meant to be used,* so that balances out. The reality that Jeff's divorce & firing were based on fiction (at least partially), is balanced by the egregious dishonesty Jeff employed to achieve his new life/wife/job/home.
So, plenty of poetic justice & Eileen was empowered to move on toward a better future after devastation, trauma, & self-doubt Jeff caused her.
Anyone who has a problem with OP in story 2, clearly has a few skeletons in their closet that they would hate a bored lawyer to find out about 😈
For story 2, he certainly got what was coming to him. However, OP committed serious crimes under CFAA and could go to jail for a long time.
Eileen had a superhero come to her rescue. Jeff got exactly what he deserved.
"-deleated his Netflix watchlist"
That's it, OP is a monster ;) (just kidding, of course^^)
Jeff went after a member of OP’s family, full fuckin nuclear approved
Really find it funny that if the OP in Story 2 wasn't a lawyer. People'd be fine and rooting for what he did. But because the dude's a lawyer, they go all "Oh! Look! Another evil, dirty lawyer, doing bad things! RAWR!!!"
Like come on, some peeps need to get off their high horse.
Jeff survived the encounter, far as we know. So... yeah, the bastard got less than he desereved!
Jeff deserved EVERY BIT of that sweet revenge from OP. He looked at Eileen as family and, at least where I live, if someone messes with your family…you go scorched earth on the bastard. I applaud OP and think he did a good thing for someone he cares about
What have we learned? Not to use the same password for everything!
I have a LOT of different passwords, the only place they’re all written down is a small notebook and only I know where it is, because I’m not daft by having the same password for everything
Equalizer dude deserves a cape
The law student story, while yes, they should have left it be however, if they asked permission from the friend, then it's justified. The only thing people are glossing over is that the friend did acknowledge that they shouldn't have done what they did, so accusing them of doing wrong is moot.
Hey fluff. Just found you on Monday. I've binged like 80 of your episodes, of all categories. Love your voice, enthusiasm and your little character. Can't wait for more.
Have fun, Fluffo is a blast.👍😊
6:05 I'd say that had he been nicer the whole time, then he wouldn't've gotten all this deserved backlash and karma.
Jeff deserved everything he got!!! What a great friend 😂
About the 3rd story, I work in a grocery store that has the similar policy, where if an item is overcharged, if it's under 10$ it's free, over 10$ you get a 10$ discount and it's only for the first item (other items get the overcharge off but they don't get an extra discount). The discount doesnt apply to employees either because... well I know when items are overcharged and I could abuse it to get free items.
"Your item is free if scanned at a higher price (for the first one, difference returned for the rest)" has been the policy of most grocery stores in Australia since barcodes started to be used, though I'm not sure if there was a cap. I've used that "weird trick" several times but never maliciously like in the story.
That last story! That's the revenge that keeps on giving!
Story 2 : I get a feeling that some people not agreeing with what OP do just because one thing and one thing only....
*DELETING HIS NETFLIX WATCHLIST* 😏
Story 2 Deleting the Netflix watch list was the best and most petty part of the whole story :D
Story 2: OH, hiding assets from the family court will really piss off the judge.
Re: 2nd Story - I think OP wronged Eileen in this. After being fully able to prove that he (Jeff) fraudulently hid the money so he could keep it in the divorce, he could've constructed a case for her for restitution. He is training to be a lawyer, which has ethics attached to that profession.
I don't care about Jeff in the slightest in this situation. He's a lying scumbag. 'Nuff said. (Edited because I referenced the wrong story)
OP discovered that information in a highly unethical and probably illegal way. He couldn't actually give up that information without incriminating himself. Jeff was a scumbag for sure, but that does not excuse criminal behavior on the part of OP.
OP on #2: we could use more pro bono lawyers like that!
Ey that law student is off becoming the next saul goodman, I like that.
BRAVO OP. Revenge is often Justice.
OP should have advised Eileen to get a lawyer and Sue for alimony and tip off the IRS for tax evasion/fraud.
Op had their friends back heavily💯👏
OP really messed things up for Jeff. What a good friend.
Story #2: Never thought I would listen to She-Devil in real life, except the wife had a guardian angel. 😆
Odds are if Jeff wasn't having an affair at the time, he probably would have been down the road.
Now _this_ is how to unwind after a long day at work- a cold bottle of water and a DarkFluff r/ProRevenge video.
I have been sick today and have literally been watching these old videos all day so Dark Fluff will tell me he loves me over and over.
Oh, I do love the middle story! Controversial? Sure? Morally justified? YES!
Oh my gosh. Jeff sounds just like my dad….literally what he is doing to my mom right now. Crazy.
I think it was fantastic Jeff got what he deserved good looking out op!
Story 2: I really liked the little petty things OP did, like the e-mail, twitter, and Netflix stuff.
OP loved Eileen since a child…he was allowed to do whatever he wanted and I’m glad!
First Story: Screw people off of what they deserve, expect to be screwed back seven-fold.
If the occasion calls for it, then a lawyer should help their clients to find closure through revenge... otherwise people won't recognize lawyers as one of Law's hands anymore!
Whaaat?? Number 2 said they were a lawyer so I thought they were going to go hard! What about the years of back alimony due to their aunt, for one?
''OP had no moral authority to do anything but still engaged in highly unethical behaviour''
Since when are we talking about morals and ethics when it comes to prorevenge? If someone you love gets taken advantage of like that and you have the means to make their life a little better by getting revenge on the person who inflicted all the hurt, would you say ''Oh no I have no moral authority to do that and it's highly unethical behaviour''? What a joke
Jeff did not need any help messing up everything. He would have eventually have done it himself.
I would love to hire OP the student lawyer, 🤣.
Number 3 and number 4 revenge on story 2 made me chuckle, cultured guy right there
I'm glad Eileen had op on her side. He did nothing wrong. Op just gave another narcissistic AH his just desserts.
Sometimes when family is not able to stand up for themselves or get payback it is up to others to do it.
What do you call 500 lawyers at the bottom of the sea? A good start. Yeah Jeff cheated but OP went way overboard with that revenge.
anyone throwing hat twords op for helping their aunt deserves what Jeff got
While I’m all for what OP did for Eileen that was very illegal. And if what he did ever got out or discovered. Not only would he lose his license but he would go to jail
I fully support every single thing that OP did and more. Jeff deserved exactly what he got. My biggest question is why the mistress married Jeff if she never trusted him.
So OP committed a whole bunch of crimes, hopefully he gets karma
The comment about Jeff and scumbag lawyers….that must have been Jeff, because damn I wish he had piled on even more revenge on the scumbag cheater.
I really wish that Aunt Eileen had gotten compensation somehow. I honestly thought that OP was going to bring the evidence to Aunt Eileen and she could possibly re-file (don't know if you can do this) divorce compensation due to hidden assets. That would have been way more satisfying. Aunt Eileen, who was the one who'd been wronged didn't really get anything from this.
Also, yes, Jeff deserved everything that happened, but the way it happened was a little too grimy for my taste.
Op was amazing! I’ve been a victim of two cheating husbands( I have poor judgement but in a wonderful relationship now) so I wish I knew OP
“You dont need a criminal lawyer, you need a Criminal…..Lawyer!!!” Breaking Bad
On that first story, way to go Op, It should teach those two morons you cheat people you going to get bit in the end.
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Way to go Op. I wish I had someone to go to bat for me.
Good Riddance, Jeff
OP gave justice where she couldn't and Jeff got everything he deserved and should have received more!!! OP is NOT wrong
Nah. Team OP. All the way. I don't believe that the finger-pointers can say in crystal clear conscience that they wouldn't have done the same if they had the means and the know-how.
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Bad karma for his new wife (previously the mistress)!!! & all I can say is, a cheater is always a cheater, can't change that bad habit of theirs!!!
1st story. Wouldn't OP have been able to use the information found on aunt's computer to go back to the courts to get alimony for the aunt? Most of the other stuff, like the boat issue, would have come out. That would have been better revenge, and legal, imo.
So, genuine question for attorneys out there: Cheater Jeff hid financial assets prior to his divorce. Could the ex-wife not go after that since he literally hid assets from the court? (Yes, I understand this varies based on being a community property state, not or potentially another country).
Yes(if there isn’t a time frame where they live after the divorce), which why what OP did as a law student was so stupid. He found proof on Eileens property of this evasion all he had to do was let her know so she could decide what to do with it.
Second story was so juicy there are no fruits left!
I always love when people are like "you're inherently inferior in this position, and I will prove it by...sabotaging you with petty bullshit to confirm my bias while not at all demonstrating your actual alleged inherent inferiority"
OP1 is an awesome amateur private investigator. I’ve never regretted as much as $1 with my Private Eye.