Putting Others First - Selfishness v. Selflessness Redux | Sanders Sides
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
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At long last, the day is here. Thomas was torn between going to a callback and potentially fulfilling his dream of being a part of a huge cinematic project, or going to two of his best friends’ wedding to be there for them and support them. And, even though, he’s sure he made the right choice, something feels off. After all is said and done, is there something to be said for putting others before yourself?
I wanna give a HUGE thank you to the director of this episode, Joan, who takes so much of their time to help get these performances outta me and I could not be more grateful!
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I also have to thank Joan for heading up the writing of this episode, as well as Davi and Quil, who assisted!
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And a GIGANTIC thank you to the animator who brought every video game scene to life: John Stratman!! He has an amazing channel and you’re gonna wanna check it out, TRUST ME!
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Also, I have to give a HUMONGOUS thank you to Erin AKA RainyDayWindow, for helping create all the Ace Attorney art for the Rhythm Redux song!
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Gotta give a GINORMOUS thank you to Joseph and Joan who helped create the music for the Rhythm Redux song!!
And I’d like to give a GARGANTUAN bit of gratitude to Connor, who helped compose special background music for this video!!
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And, a TITANIC thank you to Talyn, who is the hands behind the Deceit makeup!
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And a GIANT thank you to Joan and Cam, who helped me edit this video!!
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Of course, a SUPER-SIZED thank you to Diana, Aleksandr, and Dalton for voicing and playing characters in this video!
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Peter Singer - Effective Altruism
• Peter Singer: The why ...
„You need to unlearn that selfish is a dirty word“ LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
PREACH
I mean really, If people weren't selfish than they wouldn't be human, it's one of the things that makes people, people. They gotta get that info in their brains
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
i need to unlearn that
LOUDER FOR ME CAUSE IM DEAF AF AND IGNORANT AF
"youre not stuck with an evil snake boi... youre just stuck with a snake boi"
yaaas, i love him!!!
HES A SASSY SNAKE BOI
Same !!!! He my favorite character!
@@iz_thefizz8688 wooo!
*claps* he finally admitted to being a snek🐍🐍🐍
I love the little shimmy he did!!! It was great
Decades from now, people are going to analyze the great philosopher Thomas Sanders and be so amazed and confused why he is the same persons talking to himself in a bunch of different outfits. Truly the Plato of our time.
Philosophers are always exotic beings
Thomas fits in very well
True 😂😂
He's like the modern Mr. Rogers, just for more mature audiences
God, Janus is written so well in this episode
He plays the devil's advocate for all the arguments but never actively steers thomas wrong. He has good arguments without needing to quote, and he's kind of like a compliment to Logan.
Yeah!
Actually, the "compliment" is extremely accurate due to the fact that blue and yellow are invertered colors, which compliment each other! You invert blue, you get yellow and vice-versa! You are one smart cookie!
Janus is the compliment to Patton, the same way Remus is a compliment to Roman. My personal belief is the upcoming orange side will be Logan's foil.
In a way, Janus is an opposite to both Logan and Patton. They're three sides of a coin. Or something. Anyway, if Patton is morality and Logan is Logic, Janus isn't REALLY deceit. He's desire. Sometimes you do what you do because it makes sense, sometimes you do it because it's right, and sometimes you do it because it's what makes you happiest. And that's okay, but the reason Janus becomes a problem is because Thomas (the character) is an imperfect communicator and he would rather lie to avoid confrontation than tell the truth and admit to others that he's being selfish.
I think Janice genuinely likes Logan and is willing to work with him to bring some peace to dilemmas but did u see how he reacted when Roman laughed at his name he lashed out because it actually hurt him sometimes he can be an ass but I don't think he is actively trying to hurt Thomas he wants to help in the only way he knows how
Remus and Virgil: *This video games sucks*
Yup
Yes yes yes not fair to them
Water9826 Bottle omg yes 😂
Oml yes
LMFAO YES
“Not that any of you care, but I am unharmed.” *OUCH*
yup
THAT HURT
Mood
I KNOW my boy did not get the respect he deserves this episode
When Patton pushed Logan's button (skip all) after telling Roman not to 😭😭
When Roman makes fun of Janus' name, you can just see how hurt he was by it, and unlike Virgil, he didn't have anyone stick up for him, Janus has to stick up for himself
Oh no, Janus!! I’ll accept you!
I legit started crying at that part😭😭
it made me so sad seeing him visibly hurt, and when no one said anything about it, like PATTON DIDN'T EVEN MAKE A DISAPPROVING FACE COME ON
Our poor snake boi 😭
Le Rat Man we all accept him and by all I mean all us dark sides.... *****! I’ve said too much
Did anyone notice how the two sides that were missing (Remus and Virgil) were the two sides that actually played a really large role in this episode? The anxiety over having to pick between yourself and others, as well as guilt, and the dark creativity needed to imagine those train car scenarios
This comment sounds so smart
My theory is that whenever the other sides aren’t “physically there”, Thomas actually embodies their personality and role. It’s not full proof because of the anxiety 2 parter but in the moving on 2 parter Logan said that he wasn’t an emotion and couldn’t really duck 🦆 out. And of course Thomas actually said “falsehood”. So Thomas feeling anxious and imagining that dark situation makes complete sense to me cause they are part of him after all. Does that make sense? lol
i can just see the two watching the show, and when janus came into scene virgil said 'Now i think its time to dial down, i feel like making the snake cry would be to far' and remus just makes roman go off
LITERALLY THOUGHT THAT
@@Sarah-vv6in Quack
When Thomas did his first vine dressing as a dad I wonder if he ever thought that character would become a animated frog final boss having a moral crisis
Lol would you 🤣
He knew it all along!~
It's 1:14 AM and I'm holding myself back.
😂😂
Isabella Madore I totally would think about it if I did XD
“You’re not stuck with an evil snake boy,” *dramatic pose* “You’re just stuck with a snake boy.”
wholesome snek boiii 🤘
That just made me love him even more!!
@@chaoticmushroomchildren6936 yeee 🤘😄🤣
and that precious smile
@@thelittleprince7072 shhHHHHH- IM GONNA START FANGIRLING AGAIN- 🤣🤣🤣
The sides just look at each other and think: each of you is an idiot, but I'm a horrible person, so what are we gonna do?
O u c h
I mean, you’re not wrong
That's pretty much it.
I feel like at the end though, they all just felt really bad and they just wanted to like each other again.
accurate af :,)
Did you know snakes are colorblind?
So the line where janus says if remus didnt have a mustache he wouldn't be able to tell whos the evil twin might be true for him.
Oh 🤔
It also explains the red/blue shirt thing from a few episodes back cause the shirt was gray.
@@purposehearts190 oh yeah!
@@purposehearts190 i mean, it had red and blue on it sooo
Noooooooooooooooooo (Is it a Pokémon reference or a just a pun you thought of and thought wuz funny)
IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE
HIS NAME IS JANUS
JANUS IS THE GOD OF CHOICES
AND IS LITERALLY TWOFACED
the galaxy-brain naming in this series....
Ohmygosh that is brilliant, thank you for telling us!!
oh my g o d .
AND HIS LOGO HAS TWO HEADS ITS SUCH A GOOD NAME IM SCREAMING
I FORGOOTT THATS SO SMART
Janus is the embodiment of the “we should overthrow the government, just kidding. Unless?”
A mood.
XD
Richy Gaming I don’t agree, I don’t believe in the Good sides Bad sides because that is a concept that Roman came up with. Understanding what Roman and Remus came through it makes sense that Roman would have a strong sense of right and wrong. Roman has ALOT of problems that NO sanders sides episode has touched, this is happening for a reason. I think that the next season will be unraveling Roman and Remus getting accepted by Roman. This will be EPIC
Michal Korn 👀👀👀👀
That would be amazing!!!
Everyone: WhEreS ReMUs-
Remus: *driving the trolly*
He then proceeds to run over Leslie for the hecken heck of it
Pft..omg YES
Pfffft that actually made me laugh
You got me xD
good one XDD
Virgil: has a redemption ark
Janus: is honestly trying to help Thomas
Remus: eating deodorant in the background
Honestly i prefer the dark sides
Now let’s see what happens when orange is revealed
I want to like, but I don't want to ruin the 666- so take this as a like-
31:48 deceit vs lillypatton FIGHT!
Wait, who is Janus again?
Roman (really upset): "When is it enough!?"
Deceit: "......... trees?"
That made me laugh SO HARD
Danny Keenan TIME STAMP PLEASE
Candy Corn the Unicorn around 40:09
Sameee
The idea that Janus probably genurly thought Roman was talking about trees make me laugh harder than it chould
I had to rewind the video, rewatch it, and then pause the video so I could laugh
"You're not stuck with an evil snake boi... You're stuck with a snake boi"
I giggled a lot
Didn't we all?
@@pixiheartgirl6768 Yes, yes we did
@@feyasatos Rhetorical question, but okay.
Pixi Heartgirl noooo...
i *snickered*
*everyone talking/arguing for one hour*
*Remus and Virgil in mind scape playing just dance*
Or cards against humanity xD
@@pip_a_doodle2175 _y e s_ 😂
Edit: that would be probably Remus's idea 😂
*Caring Ocean* they were probably playing both
Actually that probably is what they are doing.
@@pip_a_doodle2175 I'm just imagineing them in a corner of the mindscape playing because Virgil got board and Remus showed up
The absolute flex of having Leslie Odom Jr in your video but only giving him a few seconds of screen time
Chad move right there.
"just your typical tuesday." -Thomas Sanders
I mean Thomas is definitely more popular than him soooo
May i gently remind-
"It's not like I'm trying to look out for Thomas or anything"-Deciet/Janus
I was thinking of "I don't want Thomas to be punished in a world where you can die for breaking the rules." LIKE HE'S A SNEK BOI NOT AN EVIL SNEK BOI
Lmao he's a tsundere confirmed
@@g.g.7730 XD
LEGIT THOOOOO
Sander sides are turning into mini movies and I’m here for it
YES IT SHOULD BE A MINY MOVE SERIES
His first episode was like 5 minuets then 14 minuets and now an hour!
Isabella Fortune I remember that!!!
I don’t care if this isn’t a movie, it needs ALL of the oscars
Ikr
DAMN RIGHT IT DOES THE THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO THIS IS DAZZLING!!!
I again agree with this statement
Yeah all the sides should get Oscars-
oh wait they're all one person
it basically is a movie
that little pose Janus makes when he says "You're just stuck with a snake boi" is KILLING me
So cute lol
I have a screeshot of it
me to
It is important to remember that they are all, at the end of the day, all parts of the same supremely silly individual.
Time stamp?
Janus is apart of Thomas. He asks himself, "how can we trust you?" For me that feels like, "How can I trust myself?"
Derpy Dragan THANK YOU? THAT’S WHAT I THOUGH!
Oof
Oooh darn
they're.. all a part of thomas..
Oh.. Ouch
roman: WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO HELP THOMAS?
janus: *BECAUSE IM ONE OF THE IDIOTS WHO LIVES IN HIM*
Lmao gotg meme
K
Lmaooooo thats something he would say tho
Yo like-
Why does that sound like it’s canon!?!
Virgil after he finds out that Thomas and Patton accepted Janus: What the gosh darn diddly dang f*ck happened while I was playing Just Dance?
Im imagining virgil in michel jackson clothes doing the moonwalk and seing patton janus and thomas talking and being like:IM NOT BRAVE ENOUGH FOR DIS and sturts runinig
BEST COMMENT BY FAR
I think logan was busy keeping him from self destructing from all the anxiety.
Took them a whole episode to accept Virgil and not even ten minutes for Janus
Why Just Dance though xD
I noticed this watch that when Logan pops up again, Janus has a little "oh sh*t" moment-but after that, as Logan speaks, he sort of leans in, looking genuinely interested. Whether he's playing it up to make Logan feel better or if he's just actually interested, I think it's sweet how intently he's listening to Logan's info, especially given how insecure Logan's acting about it lately.
Aww that is sweet. Thanks for pointing that out!! I hadn't noticed that before
Also I think it's interesting that the "light" sides listen more to Logan when the "dark" sides are involved. Especially with the color wheel theory and the foreboding orange eyes that Logan has in the latest Asides episode, hinting at "the orange side" and that, in theory, orange would be considered a "dark" side
yeah i also feel like he was getting frustrated that no one was listening to “logan” of all people. when deceit was disguised as logan you could tell he was getting annoyed. i feel like logan lowkey might be his favorite
as much as deceit seems to enjoy toying with the sides and slightly pissing them off, he does seem to have an appreciation for logan and his logical ways
@@naan000 I saw another comment that pointed this out: Deceit is not just lying. To deceive, you must know the truth to veer someone away from it. Deceit even as himself talks a lot like Logan because he needs the logic and information to make his arguments or to twist the facts in his favor.
He hides his face and then is just like “Heyyyyyyyyy man how ya doin?” It’s Dutch an awkward and subtle gesture and it has me in tears😂
“You’re not stuck with an evil snake boi...”
_You’re stuck with a snake boi_
GachaFox YT I am a NEUTRAL snake boi thank-you-very-much!
*_Janus is just so wholesome now-_*
That was the best part, I love him so much he's so sassy
that face that he made when he said that was the best thing
*snek shimmy*
I’d like to think Virgil was hiding in his room because he’s trying to think of how to talk to Thomas and the others about him being a past “dark side” and this episode was to show that not everything was black and white so showing deceit in a new “light” gave way to how old concepts aren’t always the best concepts.
"so showing deceit in a new “light” gave way to how old concepts aren’t always the best concepts." Janus did say that the moral ideals Thomas grew up with were only hurting him...
Yeah that's probably true
I forgot about that! Good theory!
Oh yeah, now I feel so bad... oh noooo...
THATS WHAT I THOUGHT (about Virgil)
We all care that Logan's okay, we all stopped to read his facts..poor buddy.
I did indeed pause to read his facts. Poor Logan :c
Eriotl Ampora omg I thought I was the only one who stopped to read it
Same, I paused just cause I wanted to know what it was.
I mean
Logan brought the T and I was thirsty.
If you know what I mean.
Why is Remus wiggling his eyebrows like that?
Im another person who stopped to read his facts! And this video was sooooo emotional.
Ok I JUST noticed the nod from deceit at 42:04 trying to tell Roman that Thomas is telling the truth, but because Roman doesn't trust him, he interprets it as a sign of Thomas lying.
Roman: When is it enough?
Janus: .... Trees?
A whole ass mood
Trinity Erin lol
y e s
Tree though
Lol
I can't stop laughing
Roman: "I'm not going outside"
Gosh Roman is so ahead of his time.
Too soon. Jkjk 😂
Truuueee
Too soo
No..sounds like me ;-;
Roman: "I'm not going outside"
Any anime weeb that has a series to catch up on: "Me neither bro"
“You’re not stuck with an evil snake boi. You’re just stuck with a snake boi”.
He spends too much time with Remus.
@@mckaleighwatson3942 I freaking love the headcanon that Deceit and Remus CHOOSE to hang out with each other-
Oh brother
Caitlin Owens snake bois can be good just look up snakes in hats
i feel like romans worst nightmare is being like his brother, and then cut him really deep. also he took janus’ little nod as a “hes lying” instead of a “hes telling the truth” and thats why he freaked out. he also fears abandonment/people not liking him and therefore through a tantrum. god i love lore
I mean I would fear that too if my Twin was exiled.
When Patton is grabbing Lee and Mary Lee from his inventory you can see that he also has 2 cookies. Guess he was feeling dangerous that day.
Did you notice that inventory is from Stardew Valley? No? Just me then ;-;
5. . . Second. . . Cookies
Hes a danger boi
OMG YAS
there are also a bunch of references to patton-cake
After Roman leaves- I’m just imagining him and Virgil hiding out like under the bed watching The Nightmare Before Christmas and avoiding everyone.
That's actually so cute omg-
*why is that so cute.*
I don't even support the ship alot but that sounds adorable :0
Princexeity everybody! (I hope I spelled it right) And I thought more like he went and hidden in his room "locking" it and hides under something sothat IF somebody came he is hidden or "gone"
6 feet apart because they're cautious.
Omg that’s adorable
"you're not stuck with an evil snake boi."
**smug grin**
"You're stuck with *a* snake boi"
- Janice, 2020
Allyson Moore Janus
After the greek god of lies
@@PolynomialPandemic Huh?
Lol
AdoniZylle 1261 yeah the way all the names tie together is amazing
I adore how Janus starts out feeling like a villain but is revealed to actually have Thomas' best interests at heart, because it's so real. Lying feels inherently evil (and can be very toxic, certainly), but usually it just stems from the desire to protect oneself. It's one of the biggest reasons victims of abuse learn to lie: they NEED to in order to keep themselves safe, and once they've escaped, realizing you don't have to lie to protect yourself anymore is so alien it can be hard to grasp.
“Roman, you shouldn’t push people’s buttons”
...Pump the breaks, Princey
*you pump those BREAKS*
When Roman asked how they can trust Deceit and before he started to pull his glove off I was just chanting “Name! Name! Name!”
same lmao
I think we all were. At least, those of us who weren’t in tears. I take that back. I was in tears and still chanting it.
gracedbyme when he said my name is I gasps and jumped so much
YEEES
I seriously thought he was just gonna show his hand cause it had a tattoo or something....😂😂
Imagine Virgil coming out of his room to see roman having a breakdown, Logan sulking, and Janus and Patton talking to each other. like what the heck I was gone for and hour what happened????
Omg yes XD
I need to see that
It was a mistake to read the comments during the video
Nora has no clue either i’m sorry and you are correct
I'm drawing that, thanks
37:07 to 37:09. Just… Janus' _face,_ realizing Logan isn't here to shut him down and kick him out like nearing the end of SvS, but is actually in a roundabout way _validating what Janus himself said._
This is precious and hindsight is 20/20.
YES
yeah
Just went back to take a second look at that. There is excitement in that expression. He smiles. He's been validated for what could be the first time in a very long time (possibly most of Thomas's life)
You can tell Thomas has been getting more comfortable with some topics with us, the religion jokes, swears, he wouldn't do this before, but uh these ideas are AWESOME, the 8-bit songs, the graphics that are everywhere now, and call backs, I would never complain
Same, totally agree.
Literally everyone is gonna ignore the fact that Leslie Odom Jr. himself literally made an appearance in the video and they only made one hamilton reference
Spade Strange wait when
Yes when
You couldn't give starving, down in his luck actor Leslie Odom Jr. A hotdog's worth of lines and screen time? How very dare!
I'm playing, bless y'all for this
@@earltaboada Roman referred to him as Aaron Burr 32:34
....technically 2. Check The Mind Vs. the Heart and My Negative Thinking
So much happened in this episode that everyone is forgetting how much of a banger that song was
While trying to make sense of the episode, the song got lost in the mental shuffle. If it were any other type of episode, the song would not have been lost in the mental shuffle.
I know roman was acting like a dark side,Patton wasn’t himself,Logan is now stuck in a game and deceit is acting like logan
It was AMaZinG
True
Yesss
Roman: "Well when is it enough??"
*Dramatic music plays*
Janus: ". . . . . Trees . . ?"
*more dramatic music plays*
🤣🤣🤣
it's giving that one scene in working through intrusive thoughts with the hot dog
Patton: “Janus?”
Janus: “I’ll take care of him”
Me: *cries*
That scene honestly confuses me because I can’t tell who he is going to go to. Like Patton said he was going to go and help Roman (I think-) so he isn’t going down to say anything to Roman. So who exactly is he going to..?
Isabellla LaRocca I think Thomas.
WHERES PATTON GOING
SlimySnekBoi ÙWÚ OOH! OKAY! Thank you! It makes so much more sense thank you so much!
Robert Pongrac I’m p sure he’s gonna go Check on roman
Next Time on Sander Sides:
Virgil: hey everybo- WHAT IS HE DOING HERE
Janus: 👁👄👁
WHERE'S MEH POPS?!
All of Virgil's nicknames ever given to him:
1. Dark stormy knight
2. Creepy cookie
3 .Brad pitiful
4. Worry wart
5. Friendo
6. Panic at the everywhere
7. Jack smellington
8. Incredible sulk
9. Charlie frown
10. Virge
11. Robert downy junior
12. Shadowy but angelic song bird
13. Kamlia the chicken
14. Vomity central
15. A mean one
16. Kylo friends
17. Bat winged cherob
18. One angry man over there
19. Perp man
20.Sunshine
21. Emo
22. Emo nightmare
23. Hot topic
24. Wet blanket
25. Chemically unbalanced romance
26. Negitave Nancy
27. Jason toddler
28. Jerky mcjerk face
29. Supreme dark overlord of negitave comers
30. Sirly temple
31. J Delightful
32. Dr gloom
33. Fairest of them all
34.Count woaloft
35.Marilyn Monrose
36. Sweet and sour misunderstood shadowling
37. Poor little anxious baby
38. Gerard gay
39. Tiger
40. Bird brain
There's a lot😂
Also most of these are from Roman which I love😂 edit: I added the last ones because of the newest sander sides video!
@@stranguhh2878 Hmmmmmmmmmmm
@@stranguhh2878 oh my goodness did you put this in every comment? All of the comments (that I've read so far) that have a bunch of replies have this added to them lmao that is commitment!
Roman: I have no fucking clue.
Is no one gonna talk about how iconic Lee and Mary Lee’s friendship with Thomas is
Liz G I know right it’s great
I love it so much
Mae Mitchum “what part of us bringing booze juice and pastries to your house makes you think we like hanging out with you?”
thinking about how everyone shamed roman for trusting janus last time then turn around and shame him for not trusting him now. he deserves so much
^^^This
Yeah Roman deserved better. I might love Janus, but Roman deserves the world. Patton seems to unintentionally be causing a lot of issues he needs to be held accountable for...
both times roman was acting extremely selfish for his own views
It's always situational, but yeah. Definitely could be better on both sides.
@@notbubblystarters05 Yeah. Though it was wrong of Janus to insult Roman like that. I mean I doubt that he doesn't know what hurts the sides. Roman does have things to work on. Just like Thomas, the sides are all learning that it's okay to have your mind work the way it does. It's okay to have anxiety, it's okay to lie sometimes, it's okay to be sad, and it's okay to have intrusive thoughts. I feel like for the longest time, Thomas has despised his lies, anxiety, and intrusive thoughts, thus despising their embodiments; Janus, Virgil, and Remus, which is probably why they are considered the darksides. Roman is a prince, Thomas' hero. Thus Roman feels like part of his job is protecting Thomas from anyone who could hurt him. He probably feels like he needs to protect the other sides too. For the longest time, Janus, Remus, and Virgil were the villains that he and the light sides, had to protect Thomas from. I think it's gonna take time for Roman to except Janus.
Also Roman mentions, in another video, that he shows his love through making fun of the person or thing he loves. Mabie he was trying to show support in the end by making fun of Janus' name, but it failed. Though he might have just been being rude. I do feel like if the first one is the case, that Roman needs to learn when and when its not, okay to show love by making fun of something. Because I can see why Janus and the others we're seeing him as being rude. I mean Roman did just call him a villain and also there is the most likely case that Roman was just being immature. But honestly I think everyone just needs time.
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
Roman, 2 days later: "Lol, Janus.."
Roman 5 years later: "what a stupid name..... Janus..... Lol"
@Hannah Potter Yes or like a short video 😂
This is me and morality hates me for it
Virgil's just playing animal crossing in his room while all of this is going down
its okay he needs self care time too
He worked overtime at the wedding, deciet spoke to him so know he's chilling then.
*XD*
*VIRGIL* Playing animal crossing while doing just dance.
*EVERYONE DOWNSTAIRS* So uhhh stress anxeity and everything bad. *Virgil still not comeing down*
I was napping
Virgil LaJeunesse oh my god someone named virgil actually responded 😂👏
“You’re just stuck with a snake boy!”
Janus I would die for you in an instant you are so precious-
My exact reaction. He must be protected. Precious little snek 🐍💛
Exactly
Literal baby, new best boy
iM GLAD WE ALL AGREE
The danger noodle just needs some LOVE. We are here for Janus 🐍💛
I really like how when Janus wanted them to trust him, he gave them his name, just like when Virgil started trusting them he gave his name. I'm starting to feel like names are a big thing to the Dark Sides (Except Remus, but he's a special muffin)
But if he isn't on his redemption arc yet, it may be simply for them to feel sympathy, because that's what Virgil did, so he's playing into their senses
To add on to this I think it's because they are treat the bad guy. Much like real life people hide and lack trust towards other if all their life they are made to believe to be a bad person. The on thing people can do in order to protect themselves is their identity and involvement.
Actually, I interpreted that as Remus already having some form of trust in them. He said he had no reason to lie to Thomas. But you aren’t wrong about him being a special muffin lol
@@darkcadk well, I don't personally think deceit is ever really a necessarily bad thing. I think *most* people would agree lying to the serial killer to help your friend isn't a moral evil.
In my opinion it comes down to a mix of why and the potential outcome. Lying is a tool, you can use to harm others, or to try to help others
That tool can easily corrupt however whenever we try to justify helping ourselves with the illusion of helping others, aka, a lot of times "I just want to spare their feelings" is, "I don't want to take responsibility".
On the other hand, lying for yourself isn't necessarily bad- if people want to hurt you or others, that's an obvious example. But feeling uncomfortable and telling a small lie say, about not wanting to hang out with someone but you don't want to explain why so you say you feel sick- I wouldn't say that's evil either.
It's nuanced and complicated, as most moral questions are
@@darkcadksorry I know your comment is a year old but, respectfully, did you actually watch the video? like really watch it?
Janus isn't really the embodiment of deceitfulness that we've been lead to think he is by this point in the narrative. it's more accurate to say that he the embodiment of selfishness, where Patton is the embodiment of selflessness i.e. this name of this episode AND the one that lead into this one; as we've learnt from this episode, selfishness is not inherently evil or wicked, it is NECESSARY for your own survival.
I know the two are shipped together a lot, but Janus is, objectively, much lass harmful than Remus, and I think them being shipped together so much has given people the wrong idea about Janus as a character. This entire episode exists to justify why EVERYONE has the capacity to lie and be selfish.
tl;dr Janus is not playing into everyone's sensitivities (when he speaks he is almost always being truthful) and is only trying to help Thomas in the way that he knows how: by placing Thomas first (Patton tries to keep him morally righteous, Logan gets him to be scheduled and think logically etc.)
“Those baby making Catholics” - Roman 2020
I dunno if I should feel offended 😂😂 or maybe asian catholics are different 😂
@@isabellatheresemateo3961 probably. my (asian) catholic uncle's dad has like 10 silblings
My favorite quote from roman
@@kay-nc9lt Guess it's the Roman Catholic quote now?
DuckKingCinema I’m gonna end up as one of them. Send help and Deceit. He has so many arms. Imagine the hugs.
I can't believe Remus filled Roman's room with cats
i thought it was patton
Bayeis, You’re right. Not nearly nasty enough.
Would Roman and Remus share a room since there brothers
That would be epic. Tell Remus to do that to me.
that one kid ash Remus kicking the top bunk to annoy the crap out of Roman is now in my head. Thank you
Watching Janus’s hurt expressions when Roman called him evil hurt me, it made me cry. Janus is the Roman god of passages, gates and doors. He was often depicted with two faces. Deceit has two faces. Deceit/Janus is doing his best to protect and guide.
Oh neat to know! I was confused bc I thought it was "Janice" like from the good place. I just thought "how does that apply here?"
Yeah, Janus has found an element of acceptance where his function is seen as valid and as a show of good faith he reveals his name...and Roman laughs, but unlike with Virgil revealing his name it's not funny or played as such. This time Roman has gone too far, and everyone makes sure he knows it. And just like that this moral absolutism he was clinging onto just got punched in the face
I liked Deceit the moment he was introduced. I too know Roman mythology. But what I thought about was how deceit isn't necessarily a bad thing. It can often be used to protect yourself. Like in the Court room episode. He was deceiving Thomas at first, but only for Thomas's own best interests. Deceit can be your own body protecting you, mentally and/or physically. Convincing yourself you did the right thing or lying to get out of a bad/potentially dangerous situation.
I also wonder how long he's been there? Like for all we know he could have been a part of every episode. I also see bits of Logan and Patton in him. He isn't just Patton's other more adult moral side. He also gathers facts and information to make well informed arguments, unlike Patton, but more like Logan. He can also play a bit into Virgil's paranoia. Because whatever Thomas is worried about makes Deceit come out of the woodworks to better protect Thomas as he is also Thomas's biggest protector. I don't think Virgil or any of the others sees the amount of respect Deceit has for them as a whole. I mean, Roman doesn't count, because he's being a bit of a bully. But I think Janus was being genuine when he said he admired Roman's selfless act, sacrificing his own needs, and sentencing Thomas to the wedding. Though he didn't like being seen as a softie so he covered it up with a lie at the end that ended up sparking an argument between him and Roman. I think we're going to Roman's room soon. Roman is showing a lot of doubts, insecurities that he was clearly showing through out the video, and the last few minutes might have seemed like a betrayal to him. Making him step out in a way similar to how Virgil did. It will then be him and Janus reconciling because he never meant to genuinely hurt him. You can see him back pedal when he thinks he's gone too far, especially with Patton. He even defends Patton in their battle.
That's my theory at least.
I don't want to tell you
I mean it could’ve been Janice and not Janus and Mr.Sanders is just having a good laugh
I read a quote the other day that reminded me of this video:
"Selfishness is not evil by nature. How could it be evil to love yourself?"
Edit: And another thing, as I've just noticed. Roman was described by Logan as "welcome" creativity. In other words, he's creativity inspired by things like Disney, the family friendly stuff. So it's his very nature to see Janus as evil. His focus on Disney isn't an accident by Thomas. In most Disney films, the villains are pure evil and they don't redeem themselves. Janus started as a villain, so Roman will see him as such.
oooooo wow! i LOVE that quote. Very Janus-y!
Is no one gonna talk about how close deceit sounded to crying when he said "My name.." the first time
@@clover951 sAME bro
Can I get the time stamp for this?
SadBoy Hours yES
@@oliverh.8432 the scene starts at about 41:11
RIGHT?!
“DECIET, what did you do to Logan!!!!????”
“Nothing and I resent the question”
Janice**
but yes i loved this line lmaooo
@@espinozaeden Janus, not Janice. And this moment was before the name reveal happened.
still wanna know what he did to logan tho, they never really said it
Emma Kartchner Janus***. It’s most likely based off of the Roman god Janus, typically depicted with two faces (calling someone two faced is like calling them deceitful).
two episodes ago: Roman is like the kids filter
Roman: starts swearing
Me: suspicious
The Midnight River 2 episodes?
My head canon is that Roman represents the part of creativity generally considered acceptable by Thomas. Since Remus’s introduction and acknowledgement, there’s been a bit more acceptance of distasteful thoughts by Thomas, thus making Roman occupy part of that gray area between what is and isn’t appropriate (like swearing)
@@KingFlame-dh8rs dealing with intrusive thoughts, are there healthy distractions
@@shelbyteague7928 I wouldn't say acceptance, but rather tolerance.
When did he cuss I missed that
Janus posing as Logan: " …Having heard a piece of information before _does not give you license to ignore it in the future._ Especially when the consequences of forgetting are so perilous. "
Wait. Is J here (27:37 - 27:46) low-key passive aggressively calling them out for ignoring Logan (Logic, y'know, _Common Sense™)_ so hard all the time when he's talking about maintaining a healthy lifestyle that Deceit _(Self-preservation)_ of all people had to step up in his stead? Because if so, I am all for it. Go off, snek boi, go off!
Patton reigning himself in so he isn’t too harsh and overbearing is both sad yet great character development
Jenny Mathews everyone’s characters development is amazing Thomas is such a creative and talented person
Joan and Talyn are also responsible for the amazing storyline behind these videos.
Also, what about Deciet(or Janice) and Roman! That character work is just 👌
Jenny Mathews exactly.
@@el.the.mushroom.gal. Janis
I feel so bad for him he’s trying so hard yet it just not enough so he breaks down and I hope it gets better.
There is no way Roman is coming out of this without trust issues.
I think Roman already had trust issues, if you're being honest.
Multiple Fandom Lover This just made them more intense and visible to the other sides most likely.
just more angst to feed off of
Is these an are there healthy distractions reference
Everyone is having trust issues
"We love you kiddo"
"Right.."
WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS
Timestamp: 42:23
I’ll thank about it! *It made me sad*
Looks like someone’s slowly having a mental breakdown
@@weirdcatcoaster1237 Yes. We need that juicy Roman angst.
@@divineichor7079 YES THAT ROMAN ANGST IS WHAT WE NEED
That fight between Patton and Janus... It shows very clearly that Janus is more than just Thomas' deception. He's also his self-preservation and self care. Even in the court room scenario he wasn't saying "be selfish because why tf not", he was more so saying 'It's fine to be selfish every once in awhile, it's *needed*". Janus is easily my favourite character, and his theme is just amazing~
I also find it really sad how, Roman isn't even trying to look past Janus being "Deceit". Lies is all he ever see's in him, and it's sad. Very well written story don't get me wrong! Just... Yeah :/
I agree, to be fair though, for the first two videos with Janus Roman was on his side, defending him and the conclusion was Janus was evil, siding with him was criticised, now he's the only one in the video not siding with him. Plus, Janus lied to him to butter him up and used him to better his deception, so he's less likely to trust him. Still not cool laughing at his name though and Janus does obviously have Thomas's best interests at heart, I can just kind of see where Roman is coming from is all
@@lpsshortcake3790 You make a good point. I can see wheres he coming from too.
It also sticks with Roman's character; he was the last "Light" side to accept Virgil as well. He very much embodies the "we're Light and good, you're Dark and bad" argument as a hero would to those he sees as villains. And he seems to see Remus as HIS dark side, rather than one of Thomas' "it's like looking in a fun house mirror". I'm glad that this has been consistent with Roman as a character and it's a great arc for him.
@@lpsshortcake3790 yeah the fact that Janus manipulated Roman in the last video (which is actually pretty much stated by Roman here) and most people just gloss over it doesn’t sit right with me.
If somebody had toyed with me if I had a fragile mental state and ultimately harmed me for their own purposes, no matter how virtuous, I’d be pretty pissed at them too.
This series
1st episode: Thomas sharing more about himself and giving small life lessons
Now: full narrative with major character development each episode
My point
*character development*
@L. New i know Right I’m so happy it’s so long
Wonderful story telling
It's because a few episodes in, Joan was made the lead writer and director. They looked at this series and went, "what if these characters weren't just figments of Thomas's imagination but rather like, actual people? like with a backstory?" And in the course of a few episodes, we got names, Virgil's backstory, new costumes, and the introduction of the Dark Sides.
HOW IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT LESLIE WAS JUST CHILLING LIKE WHAT
Im just Bumbee I WAS JUST ABOUT TO COMMENT THIS
Aaron burr...
...sir...
Alvin Is bored oh sure sir
Regan Matthews im alexander hamilton at your service sir.
Pink Lasagna I’ve been looking for you
Why are we not talking about how the legend Leslie Odom Jr HIMSELF was in the video
THANK YOU. You are literally the second comment I've seen mentioning him
Finally! I had to scroll way too far to see a comment about this!
+
Like- how did that happen
BroadwayBookworm325 EXACTLY how did he get there ?!
Janus posing as Logan at 27:55, looking downward from his spot in the info-box portrait like he's questioning his life choices after Patton all but told him his advice wasn't worth anything to the current conversation and Roman cut him off just as he was about to say something.
This is Janus having realized he is not being HIMSELF at the moment yet they're STILL dismissing him without a second thought even if not quite as outright, and that the methods used to shut him down being subtler might feel worse. Currently identifying _way too much_ with Logan's continued struggle to make himself heard and internalizing just how hard poor Logan actually has it when trying to be listened to too. I think this is the moment when he started to regret taking Logan's place during this video, if he didn't already.
(And, by the way he acts so done with their sh*t after this moment as well as the passive aggression towards people's important contributions being ignored _rolling off_ of the way he framed his advice just before this together with his response of "Nothing at all _and I resent the question"_ to "What did you do to Logan?!" as coupled with his initial concerned/guilty "Oh sh*t" reaction at seeing Logan more or less in person later, I think there might've been an important if awkward off-screen conversation there that we missed spanning from when they swapped at 23:20 to J showing up in disguise at 26:45. One involving Logan being so done he might've greenlighted this post hostile takeover. Which, that still probably involved Logan lashing out first or simply thinking it wouldn't make a difference, since it's already a given they won't listen to Dee either if he's posing as _Logan._ Then lo and behold they actually _do._ And it feels nice of course, but also Janus has mixed feeling about it now whoops. Apologies are in definitely order after this, if they weren't a given already.)
“Those baby making Catholics.” I’m dying
I was like "ok Christian :v " it was so funny XD
Honestly though. My great-grandparents who were veryy very Catholic, had 14 kids. My parents, who are also Catholic, had 8 kids.
And my parents, who is ALSO Catholic had 1 child.
Me.
My parents are catholic and I'm the second of 8.
I WAS gonna say I disagree cuz my mums a catholic and she only had 3 children.
However
My dads not religious so i guess that evens it out.
And then I remembered how many aunts and uncles I have on my mums all-Catholic side of the family and...well...
Let’s just say now I agree
Conclusion: Leslie Odom Jr. Is the other dark side
hOLY CRAP HE'S THE ORANGE SIDE 😆
And now he has to be a regular, it's in his contract.
I KNEW IT
emphasis on the dark side part SHSJSJSJS
*just a joke, don’t kill me*
Hi I’d like to report a racism
Janus: **raises hand to show that he's telling the truth**
Me, an idiot: wait is his name written on his hand
Same
Omg I thought the same thing to XD
Same xD
😁 part of the squad too 🙋
Hand reveal squad
Brooooo! How did I only just notice how smooth the transition from Logan's voice to Janus' voice was??!!?!! THAT WAS BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!
"those baby-makin' Catholics"
-stares at my seven aunts and nine uncle's...- okay but you don't have to call us out sire
Hufflepufflez :3 *confused Jewish laughter*
Now military catholic is a whole new level (besides me) I swear every time they get home from a deployment they make a baby.
My four siblings and I, 7 aunts and uncles, and their collective 18 children can verify that
is no one gonna talk about how janus' name is the same as the Roman god Janus who has two heads, is the god of new beginnings and doors (both mental and physical), his 2 heads (one young one old) allow him to look at all aspects of a situation and come up with a conclusion that is inclusive and his two heads look at both evil and good!!!! and im pretty sure that's why deceits name is janus, he has two sides, looks at all aspects of the situation etc
I mean even his symbol is a two-headed snake
Holy hell.... thank you for sharing!
And I'm pretty sure Janus had a role in a myth including Romulus-
Yass
I've seen Janus mentioned as a possible name for Deceit exactly for these reasons. Add the fact that all the 'dark' sides have names of a similar origin and it's a pretty solid case. I won't lie, I screamed when he introduced himself. We got it right!
Janus going back to the mind palace be like:
Janus: Virgil, I get why you didn’t want to share your name now.
Virgil: so he laughed at yours too?
Janus: **makes ‘duh’ face**
Poor boys
Shadow Monster In Your Closet it rly be like that doe
omg yes 😂😂
aw :,)(
Cute
I also love how Janus actually LISTENS to Logan
The way Janus said “i’ll take care of him” with such a soft smile on his face I LOVE HIM
That wasn't quoted correctly, but I agree.
“I’ll take care of him”
46:12 💛
And seconds later he suggested to push people down stairs, tbh that's iconic 😂
Names of The Sides:
Logan
Roman
Patton
Virgil/Virge
Remus
Janus/Janice(Idk sry)
“This is Sanders Sides, not Odom Sides. Ahem, I’m not threatened at all.” Thomas, you outdid yourself
I wanna like but its at 666 likes
Yes
Yavier Xman quadrupled now
@@FlowerPetals12 what does that mean ;w;
Everyone: having mettle breakdowns
Remus & Virgil: quietly playing animal crossing in the background
Virgil: in his room having a panic attack
Remus: filling Romans room with feral cats
Lol yas
i don’t think remus does anything quietly lol
Remus: OoooOoo~ we could SO totally buy that chair! It would go nicely with the living room!
Virgil: no we don't have enough bells for that! Besides, I only have a few leaf tickets left, and I'm saving them for this lamp!
Remus: BUT- BUT THE CHAIRRRR!
Virgil: Remy, I swear to go-
Remus: I. WANT. THE. CHAIR.
Virgil: NO.
MissBliss Number2 OMG yes! *\(^o^)/*
It has taken until *now* for me to notice that the hooked cane used to pull Logan away is the same as the one that Janus is holding when he reveals himself. HOW DID I MISS THIS?
I've been scrolling in the comments trying to find someone who noticed like me. I'm watching this instead of skipping to find all of Logan's lowdowns to actually let him be listened to and I noticed it right away, lol.
@@Bgdf007I was also looking to see if anyone else noticed this
Remus: This guy’s deceit in disguise!
Everyone: No..........???
The next sander sides episode: *are you sure about that*
FORESHADOWING-
Oml yasssssssssss
AHHHHHH-
I wish that happens
Oh my - HOL' UP A DIDDLY DARN MINUTE
Janus: “You’re not stuck with an evil snek boi...”
Thomas: .......
Janus: “you’re stuck with a SnEk BoI”
that is one of my favorite lines both in phrasing and delivery
DeathX Dylan mine too
zonescat yeah
Seeing Janus without his gloves is what it’s gonna be like to see Roman with legs.
M0RG0LIG
Wait, Roman has _legs?_ I know Logan, Virgil, Remus, and (maybe in SvS?) Janus do because we literally saw them but Roman has legs?
I didn’t think he did either but my friend just pointed out that he has legs in the video game section. Disappointing but oh well.
Janus without the glove was as bad as Remus without the mustache from the bloopers. Just... really uncomfortable for some reason.
@MrLegendofLP
😂
Oh my god I forgot about that
Watch the vines with Princey. He's definitely got legs.
Janus: - reveals his name -
Everyone: .....
Roman: - starts laughing -
Janus:- completely ruins his self esteem -
Janus:
Woke up
Had some wine (he probably drinks it)
And chose:
*Self-Esteem destruction*
To be fair it is pretty shitty to make fun of other people's name (no hate on roman it was just mean)
Oh rewatching this I actually realised something the ones connected to the dark sides all have Roman names
Janus- two faced god of lies and gateways(pretty sure)
Remus- one of Romes founders with his brother Romulus(Roman)
And Vergil a poet who criticised those in power in his works
Also I could tell when Roman said “He’s just trying to build up false confidence in you so he can plummet it down into its depths” Roman was talking about himself, when Janus used to flatter and manipulate him.
I think that Janus was trying to beneficially manipulate him. But Roman can't see that now, he's just coming to terms with the fact that he was being manipulated
Wonder if Janus has a another name that matches the God he's named after... Because there are quite a few gods that have a feminine names and goddesses who have masculine names. Wonder if Thomas thought of that??
I wonder if he used to do that to Virgil as well. Which is why Virgil is super wary around him and calls him a liar.
I bet it was another one of Janus' 'beneficial lies.' Trying to get Virgil to calm down the only way he knew how to, by lying, but which epically backfired on him with Virgil seeing the half-truth and being paranoid of anything Deceit now does.
mrsbasia122 that makes sense. I mean the way Janus acts it just sounds like how Remus can’t think of positive metaphors. Janus almost always speaks in lies because it’s the only thing he’s ever known. And Remus doesn’t know positive metaphors because those thoughts weren’t separated to him. I thought Janus looked a little more composed and relaxed in this episode (video? Idk) and was able to be honest because that is what benefits Thomas in that moment. It sounds to me like Janus will do anything to benefit Thomas even if it means lying and manipulating.
Lmao Janus
I was disappointed that they didn't hug at the end - before I realized.
Oh yeah.
Right.
One person.
Right????? I keep expecting them to physically touch and then take a second to remember "Right. All one actor." I'm so glad Thomas, Joan, and Talyn are able to do this as a career, they're so talented!
I like to imagine that they hugged as soon as the camera was turned off and/or once they sunk out.
Yeah! Same! The only way they can hug is if another person is playing the character, like that old episode where Thomas' friends played the sides. It would nice to see a come back of that one day, so we can see them interact now that the relationships between them have changed so much!
@@MrLegendofLP sw
@@MrLegendofLP
fgh
Who else's heart shattered during Roman and Janus' arguement and the aftermath of their arguement?
im a big roceit shiper soo- Y E S
When Roman just kind of left, all I was thinking about was Virgil’s character arc/absence in Accepting Anxiety Part 2. He seemed so close to snapping that I was worried this would turn into something worse.
Meeee😭
Still breaks my heart.
I almost cried
I love the fact that it changes from Deceit and Payton fighting each other, to just Thomas’s mental health.
And also, looking back, I realize that everything is about all the other sides and barely about Roman. It’s Virgil this, Patton that, Logan this, Remus that, Janus this and etc.
Everyone views Roman as some annoying characteristic of a stereotypical hero, so that is what he is. No one is giving him any sort of ear to listen to how he feels unloved and left out, no matter how hard he tried to voice that and I realize that now, Roman has feelings himself. It’s like being the funny friend, and yet you yourself make yourself the “funny friend” to ignore what’s hurting you.
They see him as the funny friend and as the annoying side, but he’s more than that, but as long as everyone sees him as annoying and “funny” he will remain that way.
Remus and Virgil are probably just vibing in a corner somewhere
Mood tho👌
They better be 6 ft apart
Virgil: **strangling Remus so he doesn’t interrupt the moment(s)**
Probably screaming at each other while playing uno
True. Like Virgil’s just playing on his phone while Remus is holding a little grey rat by the name of munchkin.
No one's pointing out Logan's whole "I'm ok, not that any of you care."
Yeah Patton has been super dismissive of all the other sides and this episode I think he finally realized that. A little too late and I'm certain future episodes are going to be about the consequences of that but both Logan AND Roman have been pushed aside. Virgil not so much just because of how heightened Thomas' anxiety always is, but Patton has been pretty stubborn.
It need to be pointed out though ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I liked how Pat tried to interject but Logan just kept going.
poor logan. and also the fact that he felt the need to make his input optional. like he doesnt think anybody cares about him or what he thinks... :(
@@MrLegendofLP True and Patton was trying to dial back in this episode
I know poor Logan
Am I the only one who thought when Roman laughed at his name, Janus looked like he was about to cry?
He might not have, but I did
He did look like that...and i did cry
He totally looked like that and he’s sad cause it sounded like Remus made fun of him for it and then he shares it with the group so they trust him then Roman makes fun of him for it. He was just like 😟
I know. I thought so too.
I know and it was so sad. Poor snek boi
I'm rewatching all of these again and realizing Janus actually looked kinda hurt when Roman said they couldn't trust him near the end 😭
Deceit: *rants about mental health care*
Me: *“We Stan a mental health advocate”*
YASSS
We stan a snake boi.
Amen
*obvious evil laugh*
We Stan a Mental Health snek advocate-
For y’all wondering where Virgil was, he was obviously social distancing
april aw my pleasure!
Virgil and Logan are the only sides with brain cells (Logan was social distancing with the text box)
I love this but also Thomas said in a live stream this is a alternate timeline so this is set before everything happened
Pretty sure he's playing Just Dance in his room.
Mary Dewitch I’m so scared for where Virgil is and what he’s going through because, normally, Anxiety would be a huge factor in what Thomas was experiencing in the episode, yet he wasn’t present!! WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PRECIOUS ANGSTY BOI!!!
Roman's "I'm not going outside" aged, and I'm not sure if it's like milk or wine
Ella Starburst I think that was the joke
@@ambiguousgrass607 Guess you can say Roman has predicted the future on his own accord (or by accident)~
Also if we're choosing to find a comparison to self-clairvoyance, Roman's quote aged like red wine~
“I always thought that sort of language was .... ineffable.”
Flashbacks to Good Omens
I was looking for this
glad to see i'm not the only one