Oktoberfest
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- It's the time of year when people flock to Munich to drink large quantities of beer. But how did this tradition start?
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Oktoberfest is just a big tourist trap. You will find more foreigners there than lokals.
Fascinating. Thank you.
I spend one evening at Oktoberfest in 1989. In recent decades Oktoberfest is world famous and overrun with tourists. The beer (ein Maß) is outrageously expensive and finding a place at a table is not easy. In the later evening many drunks stagger in all directions and one must be careful not to step in vomit. Many Munich residents hate the Fest and plan their out-of-town vacations during Oktoberfest.
A lesser known, but more interesting event is the Cannstatter Fest in Bad Cannstatt, a suburb of Stuttgart. In size it is second to the Oktoberfest and occurs in May.
märzen beer is very delicious because it has a very signifcant taste
but you shouldnt drink too much
Der Bremer Freimarkt ist wesentlich älter als das Münchener Oktoberfest. Der erste fand schon 1035 statt.
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Very interesting and informative as usual. Hey can you do some videos wearing Lederhosen just for the fun of it.
I am a british citizen living in Germany born in Nigeria. Jetzt frag mich mal wo ich herkomme. And i´ll have to explain things.
Manchmal überfordert mich die Frage. I grew up bi-lingual. Was eigentlich bedeutet - I was unable to speak any language propperly till i was about 24.
I went to a bank in England i was greeted with: Hi mate how can i help you.
went to a Fast Food restaurant in Germany: Guten Tag der Herr, was kann ich für sie tun.
Cheapest pub restaurant in an english City has wonderfull soft toilet paper.
Went to a very fine Hotel Restaurant in Germany got the ruffest toilet paper ever, which i guess only excists in germany.
But both Experiances were made about 15 Years ago. Things might have changed since then.
Danke für deine Sendung. Made me laugh and enjoy a lot. Ich warte auf neue Videos.
btw, its called "wiesn" because its held at the "theresienwiese"(wiese = lawn) which is now mostly a paved area or consists of gravel, ironically (was that sentence even a bit correct? didnt know where to put the ironically)
Bayreuth checking in...Being an Ausländer these details are important.
In the mid of '70s most of Munich breweres replaced the malty Märzen by beer Pilsner kind which isn't so tasty. Still Augustiner brews tasty M#rzen which became in 2000 in North Germany esp Hamburg culture status, the brewery had delivery difficulties at times. - Cheers, Heinz
And that's why a lot of people don't go to the Oktoberfest but to the Batlmarkt ... it's like Oktoberfest without tourists.
I have never been to an Oktoberfest. Nor to THE Oktoberfest neither to any other Oktoberfest.
My grandfather was from Munich
Why not rename it to Septemberfest?
I think mostly southern Germany has the Oktoberfest, we, in North Rhine-Westphalia do not have Oktoberfest
+SimonHellinger Sorry. I am a bit late. The real Oktoberfest is in Munich, and it's just the biggest Volksfest, which is Kind of a Festival that happens every year in every town in Bavaria. The rest is just fake.
Wiesn means "Meadows".
"brought forward"? September is before October so it should be something as "moved back".
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I didn't know that!
mmh. Jetzt ein kühles blondes ^^
Thankfully, this tradition and others are not very common Northern Germany. But sadly, it's a stereotypical tradition which all Germans will be confronted someday.
And what about the »Hamburger Dom«, the »Bremer Freimarkt« or the »Hannover Schützenfest«? Every »Kirmes« or »Schützenfest« is technically a “October Fest” [!]. Certainly, there are a lot local differences, but basically it's almost the same.
In my area (East-Bavaria) old historic feasts are called »Dult«.
And, such feasts can have a really long tradition, a longer tradition than the Munich Oktoberfest; e.g. in Passau the »Maidult« dates back to 1655 and the »Herbstdult« even back to 1164. And, the Straubing »Gäubodenvolksfest«, which is the second biggest feast in Bavaria with approx. 1 Million visitors within 11 days (in a town of 48000 inhabitans) was first held as agricultural feast of the »Unterdonaukreis« (today known as »Bezirk Niederbayern«) in 1812 as a local branch of the original Munich Oktoberfest - in Passau.
Martin Steindl I should be more accurate: North-Eastern Germany. Anyway, the other way around it works better: Every October Fest is a "Volksfest". ;)
The only fests we have in my region is an annual fair and the annual "city/town/village birthdays". I guess that's enough.
Those festivities have other, for me more understandable, origins and todays functions than the October Fests.
Why go to the Wies'n if you can go to the Wasen? ;) Much less crowded and more or less the same experience... More things to do besides getting drunk, actually.
Much less crowded? It's the second largest folk festival in the world with nearly five million visitors every year.
rewboss Well, everything's relative, I guess. What I meant was that you get more or less the same experience without quite so many drunk people vomiting everywhere :D That's my experience, at least. Also, as someone who doesn't really go there just to get drunk, I found that the Wasen seems to offer more things to do... That might just be because I know Stuttgart much better, though ;)
I very much appreciate your videos. I learn a lot from them and they help me brush up my German.
Very interesting. Thank you!
The only Oktoberfest I have been to is this one
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitchener-Waterloo_Oktoberfest
peggyt1243 Did you know that Kitchener used to be called Berlin?
It was renamed during World War I
I knew it used to be called Berlin but I thought it was the second world war. Either way it is Kitchener now.
peggyt1243 named after the British equivalent of Uncle Sam at the time, iirc
"Under the spreading chestnut tree..."
How or why would 16th century beer catch on fire if it gets too warm? What was its contents, other than the basic things that are in German purity law abiding beer nowadays? I mean, what happened chemically? Somehow I can not imagine that a water based substance like beer suddenly starts burning. OK, the alcohol in it could theoretically burn, but normally, to prepare something flambé at room temperatures, you need really strong stuff with at least 40 or 50-something per cent of alcohol, and somehow I don't think beer had that much alcohol, even back in the day. Also, you said Märzen (which was brewed instead) had even more alcohol, which doesn't really make sense in that context.
I don't know the specifics, but it's not the beer itself that catches fire (obviously). Some part of the brewing process results, in warm weather, in an increased fire risk. There will have been lots of straw around, and on hot, dry conditions you really don't want to be setting fire to it.
rewboss sounds like an old wives tale that one... Wouldn't the grain have been threshed before the malting process so not sure why there would be straw around? Anyway interesting stuff all the same.
You should do one on the Reinheitsgebot, because there is a lot of myth around that (the original text didn't mention yeast as it wasn't known about at the time) and the law as it stands today which is the German Beer law.
For completeness would also be good to do a comparison with the process of brewing English real ale which has v little CO2 in it and uses stuff like isinglass to speed up the process of the yeast going to the bottom of the barrel.
Ah but you don't like beer :-)
I'm guessing about the straw catching fire, but there's always straw lying around the place, threshed or otherwise.
rewboss Somehow I had to think of "Warum liegt denn hier überall Stroh rum?" ;-) Ah well, internet memes...
Still, the straw would have been on the floor, while whatever's left over from brewing would be in a tank or a tub or something...But I guess it's something one would have to research about in order to find out why there was an actual danger of fire.
All the German sources I could find are anecdotal and only mention "higher risk of fire in the beer brewing process"; although I actually think that that wasn't the main reason for the ban. Just think about it - if the economic incentive to produce beer is high enough (beer to sell, sales tax to collect) I'm sure people and also rulers wouldn't have been content with just banning the production, but instead probably would have thought of a way to deal with the risk (remove flammable material, build stone compartments, etc.). The actual, much more plausible reason is one of quality control: The popular beer type at the time was produced in the so-called bottom-fermented brewing process, and for that kind of brewing, you need temperatures of around 10°C, which were just not possible to achieve during the hot summer months. So production was banned in order to keep the market from being flooded with low-quality beer which was brewed at too high temperatures.
It is called "Oktoberfest" in September because at the time, when it took place the first time, the Bavarians had the Gregorian, not the Roman calender of today. In Gregorian calender "October" is at the time when "September" is in the Roman calender.
For the same reason the "October Revolution" in Russia took place on the 27th of September. The 27th of September in the Western "Julian" calender is the 10th of October in the Eastern "Gregorian" calender.
No, that's not true; and in any case the Gregorian calendar, not the Julian calendar, is the new calendar. The Holy Roman Empire (which included Bavaria) adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1582, centuries before the first Oktoberfest. Because the Gregorian calendar was introduced by a pope (Pope Gregory XIII, hence the name "Gregorian"), Catholic areas like Bavaria were more open to it.
Also, the Russian October Revolution took place on 25th October in the Julian calendar (which Russia was using at the time), which in the Gregorian calendar is 7th November.
I have always wanted to visit Germany, half of my Dad's side of the family are from Nürnberg, which other cities in Germany would you recommend visiting?
Munich, Munich, and Munich.
Passau, Regensburg, Straubing (while the Gäuboden festival ;))
Drezden
drunken Bavarian When I eventually go, I will bear those places in mind, if I was to go down as far as Nürnberg it would be impossible for me to not visit München, as a Football fan. And as someone who likes beer, Oktoberfest is a must for me, just need people to go with who would be up for that.
szeproza I have always wanted to visit some of the former East German cities, such as Dresden, Leipzig, Rostock, the glamour of the 'Western' stuff only goes so far, and in Britain most places are exactly the same, so something not 'Mainstream' would certainly be worth a visit for me, from pictures online Dresden does look a lovely place
Ryan Christopher
Dresden, Leipzig and Rostock are definitely worth visiting. If you go to Dresden, take the chance and also visit the Elbe Sandstone Mountains!