It did get kinda frustrating though watching JL and constantly seeing him beat by something like electricity. I can accept him not being a god, but some of it is kinda ridiculous.
Outside of the Golden Age comics and the current comics after the 6th Dimension storyline, Superman is never god tier. Even when he is, they just tell different stories where he has to accomplish something unrelated to his strength and speed.
And his car from the episode 'My Girl' with the canopy that opens up rather than a door. That was a toy too. The 'Super Coupe'. Came with a Clark Kent figure. Also the car toy could 'fly' as it had pop out wings and rocket boosters come out the back. :P It was a red recolor of the blue 'matrix conversion coupe' from the Superman The Man of Steel toyline from the year before.
Because you guys really focused on Dan Turpin's eyebrows last time, design for Dan Turpin in the show was modeled on comic book legend Jack Kirby, who originally created the character.
Superman doesn't need air, water or food. He can survive off of sunlight alone but he doesn't know that yet so he wears suits for space and underwater travel until Justice League.
Regarding Superman's power level: He doesn't seem to actually be injured by anything. He gets knocked around a lot but he doesn't have super-inertia (although he should be able to control his momentum if he remembers to fly). It's not clear if he's in pain or just surprised at times but neither necessarily contradicts being invulnerable.
Yeah most of the time you don't see any actual injury on him. He just doesn't brace himself (or at least can't when he's in the middle of flying) before impacts so he just gets knock around a little. Remember despite how much he can lift he still is only like around 200-275 lbs.
On Aaron's point of being mistaken for a store employee, I've definitely been confused for a B&N employee because of the green collar shirt and the Star Wars lanyard I was wearing at the time.
13:16 I'm going to assume Parasite absorbed a COPY of Earl Garver's concienceness. Since it's a separate 3rd entity, any crime it commits would be its fault, not Parasite's. When Parasite regained control of his body, the 3rd entity "died", so it can't be brought to justice.
You guys should do Justice League, Batman Beyond and Static Shock at the same time because they're all connected. I wish there was a proper episode watch order like the Arrowverse specials but there's a lot of things that don't work unless you watched a specific episode throughout the three shows so it might be difficult to figure out.
The current hold your breath record is held by a 56-year-old Croatian freediver called Budimir Šobat who held his breath for 24 minutes and 37.36 seconds, and that is a normal human.
The show creators wanted to keep this incarnation of Superman's power level down to almost his Comic Book Golden Era beginning level - which was much weaker than the Superman we are used to. He is also very prone to "take a hit" because he never developed his instinct to get his guard up. He does begin to power up more as the DCAU continues. The unofficial explanation is he is "learning" and still becoming accustomed to what he can truly do.
Golden Age Superman was the OP one that could move planets with a giant chain he built. It's the post Crisis Superman that they based this Superman off of
@@BaithNa You are thinking of the developing Golden Age Superman on his way to becoming the much more powerful Silver Age Superman. Golden Age Superman started off the weakest by far. He could not fly, had no X-Ray vision, had no Heat vision, got stunned to near unconsciousness by an ordinary torpedo, etc ... He started flying in the early 40's Fleischer cartoons because animating long distance leaping was too difficult back then. Radio Show Superman was also pushing his power levels, but for different reasons. Comic Book Superman didn't fly until 1943. As the Golden Age continued, Superman's powers grew substantially over that time period.
@@dunringill1747 _"Golden Age Superman started off the weakest by far. He could not fly, had no X-Ray vision, had no Heat vision"_ You're mostly right but one detail is a little off. He did start off the weakest (June 1938) with superhuman strength (including leaps), speed and durability (and incredible eyesight and hearing) but he had his X-ray vision less than a year in (April 1939). Some other interesting dates (assuming my research is dead on): Full on super-hearing (1939) Super-breath as in a very impressive blowing out an opponent's torch (January 1940) Super-ventriloquism (1941) (only included here because this was so early in) Super-breath as in putting out a whole fire with a single gust (June 1941) Super-loud voice (1942) (of course, it's only logical) Using x-ray vision as heat vision (July 1949) Freezing breath (May 1959) although he had technically done this in May 1943 but by first flying into the stratosphere to inhale some "sub-zero air" Heat vision as separate power (1961)
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps I'm not sure how my statement could be considered partially wrong when your details list backs up exactly what I had said. Anyway, when it comes to Superhero 'Powercreep' found in comics, Superman is a prime example character to point out.
@@dunringill1747 _"I'm not sure how my statement could be considered partially wrong when your details list backs up exactly what I had said."_ Maybe I didn't phrase it well. I guess I mean that Golden Age Superman is using his X-ray only 10 months after his debut hence saying "Golden Age Superman had no X-Ray vision" is not 100% a truth statement. To illustrate with an extreme example, let's say Superman did no leaping around at all in his first published adventure but does in the second one would it be accurate to say "Golden Age Superman started off the weakest by far. He could not leap tall buildings in a single bound."? Of course not. _"Anyway, when it comes to Superhero 'Powercreep' found in comics, Superman is a prime example character to point out."_ No argument from me. There's also Wonder Woman and Hulk.
@@JKBlackCloverThey could skip it since it’s not next chronologically, plus even the creators have said it’s the worst written DCAU show and was really a Spiderman cartoon not a Batman cartoon. It also doesn’t tie into the rest to the DCAU shows very much. You could literally watch it last and it wouldn’t change anything
@@TheJjcczz It doesn't tie into the DCAU shows much except the episode Epilogue, which is a pretty big episode. But i guess you can skip Epilogue, watch all of JL, JLU and then Beyond and then come back and watch Epilogue.
@@TheJjcczz you're completely wrong that it doesn't tie in to the shows, stuff from this show come back in beyond specifically, and multiple episodes of JL make more sense if you've already seen beyond not just epilogue. regardless of what you or the creators think about the quality of the writing they should just watch it in release order.
Regarding the grappling gun through a wall Aaron was mentioning, I saw that exact thing done in the movie SWAT with Samuel L Jackson, LL Cool J and Colin Farrell. They shot it into a perps wall and drove backwards taking down the side of the house.
Wonder Woman sometimes wears a cape and Aquaman has worn one for "ceremony". The Flash, I figure, wouldn't wear one because it would be too dangerous, even to himself, not just for drag and snagging on things (as Edna Mode points out) but it could whip around and slice him open and his blood must pump like at a percentage of lightspeed.
20:04 - Aaron, you're talking about the 2003 movie S.W.A.T. Colin Farrell's character makes that and calls it "The Key to the City". I wish I could use those synapses for something useful, but instead I get this. Thanks, brain.
I watched the comics carefully during the Crisis on Infinite Earths back in 1985, because DC promised they were going to make Superman more "believable". Superman used to fly to other galaxies, didn't need to breathe for -- however long he needed, he could survive multimegaton H-bombs; after Crisis, he could survive a half-a-kiloton blast, he could fly in space -- but he could only hold his breath one hour. And no faster than light stuff any more. They may have altered his specs [several times] since then, but that was about the last year of my major comic buying. I could put up with everything else, but no more flying to other planets? I kind of thought of Batman as the dark/gothic hero and Supes as the science-fictional hero. Flying to other worlds to fight aliens was a major draw for me!
Superman needs aqautic gear because in this show, he needs oxygen. I never liked that Superman could just go into the vacuum of space in other versions without gear. I mean, he's an alien, but krypton had an atmosphere. Superman has lungs. Space should kill him from lack of air. So following suit, underwater, he'd also need air.
It's not that he needs oxygen, it's that he doesn't know that he doesn't need oxygen. He eventually figures it out during Justice League. He doesn't need food, water or oxygen, he can survive off of sunlight alone.
@@BaithNa >He eventually figures it out during Justice League. Again you just made that up, even in Justice League Unlimited he's still using a spacesuit.
I think Superman wearing Scuba gears is for him communicate with that blond woman underwater. And, also, to sell toys, of course. Have you guys consider watching Freakazoid?
To my knowledge batman did grapple gun a wall behind a goon in Batman Return saving a Woman. Also the movie SWAT with Samuel L Jackson they came up with a big arrow that expanded inside of a wall and tore the wall out so the SWAT team could apprehend the bad guy.
This show is ok, but think about how much more personality and introspection batman got in his first season. He action is neat but Timm did not get Superman as a character imo, but thank god he didn’t go Byrne with it.
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I know some people don’t like it but I do enjoy that Superman isn’t god tier and can actually struggle in this show.
It did get kinda frustrating though watching JL and constantly seeing him beat by something like electricity. I can accept him not being a god, but some of it is kinda ridiculous.
@@unicornburger16 At least they powered him up for later seasons
@@unicornburger16 at last in JLU it's somewhat explained why in a rather iconic speech I don't want to spoil. :)
@@Carnivius_Prime yeah that moment was so fucking cool and hype.
Outside of the Golden Age comics and the current comics after the 6th Dimension storyline, Superman is never god tier.
Even when he is, they just tell different stories where he has to accomplish something unrelated to his strength and speed.
When you see Superman in different outfits? That’s the show selling toys lol. I remember tv spots with all the suits he wears in the show
Thats precisely what I thought when I saw the suit 🤣
And his car from the episode 'My Girl' with the canopy that opens up rather than a door. That was a toy too. The 'Super Coupe'. Came with a Clark Kent figure. Also the car toy could 'fly' as it had pop out wings and rocket boosters come out the back. :P It was a red recolor of the blue 'matrix conversion coupe' from the Superman The Man of Steel toyline from the year before.
@@Carnivius_Prime yezzz.
Because you guys really focused on Dan Turpin's eyebrows last time, design for Dan Turpin in the show was modeled on comic book legend Jack Kirby, who originally created the character.
Head canon as a kid for why Superman has the space and water suits. He doesn't really need them for survival but he does need them for speaking.
Superman doesn't need air, water or food. He can survive off of sunlight alone but he doesn't know that yet so he wears suits for space and underwater travel until Justice League.
I'm pretty sure he does need air in this show. He can go longer without than us, but not indefinitely. Similar to post-Crisis Supes.
It's proven he needs oxygen in the episode of Justice League Unlimited where a guy with air powers suffocates him and he stills wears a spacesuit.
Regarding Superman's power level: He doesn't seem to actually be injured by anything. He gets knocked around a lot but he doesn't have super-inertia (although he should be able to control his momentum if he remembers to fly). It's not clear if he's in pain or just surprised at times but neither necessarily contradicts being invulnerable.
Yeah most of the time you don't see any actual injury on him. He just doesn't brace himself (or at least can't when he's in the middle of flying) before impacts so he just gets knock around a little. Remember despite how much he can lift he still is only like around 200-275 lbs.
@@anispideyexactly
On Aaron's point of being mistaken for a store employee, I've definitely been confused for a B&N employee because of the green collar shirt and the Star Wars lanyard I was wearing at the time.
13:16 I'm going to assume Parasite absorbed a COPY of Earl Garver's concienceness. Since it's a separate 3rd entity, any crime it commits would be its fault, not Parasite's. When Parasite regained control of his body, the 3rd entity "died", so it can't be brought to justice.
You guys should do Justice League, Batman Beyond and Static Shock at the same time because they're all connected.
I wish there was a proper episode watch order like the Arrowverse specials but there's a lot of things that don't work unless you watched a specific episode throughout the three shows so it might be difficult to figure out.
I feel like capes underwater would add *HELLA* drag, but I'm not a fluid dynamicist so I could be wrong.
Brian Cox is also Stryker in X2.
I'm sure I'm the first person *ever* to point out the irony that he would then go on to play a character named Logan 😁
The current hold your breath record is held by a 56-year-old Croatian freediver called Budimir Šobat who held his breath for 24 minutes and 37.36 seconds, and that is a normal human.
Nothing about that is "normal"
7:55 There are times I wonder how much of Metropolis has lead poisoning with how much lead is just all over the place.
The show creators wanted to keep this incarnation of Superman's power level down to almost his Comic Book Golden Era beginning level - which was much weaker than the Superman we are used to. He is also very prone to "take a hit" because he never developed his instinct to get his guard up. He does begin to power up more as the DCAU continues. The unofficial explanation is he is "learning" and still becoming accustomed to what he can truly do.
Golden Age Superman was the OP one that could move planets with a giant chain he built. It's the post Crisis Superman that they based this Superman off of
@@BaithNa You are thinking of the developing Golden Age Superman on his way to becoming the much more powerful Silver Age Superman.
Golden Age Superman started off the weakest by far. He could not fly, had no X-Ray vision, had no Heat vision, got stunned to near unconsciousness by an ordinary torpedo, etc ...
He started flying in the early 40's Fleischer cartoons because animating long distance leaping was too difficult back then. Radio Show Superman was also pushing his power levels, but for different reasons.
Comic Book Superman didn't fly until 1943. As the Golden Age continued, Superman's powers grew substantially over that time period.
@@dunringill1747 _"Golden Age Superman started off the weakest by far. He could not fly, had no X-Ray vision, had no Heat vision"_
You're mostly right but one detail is a little off. He did start off the weakest (June 1938) with superhuman strength (including leaps), speed and durability (and incredible eyesight and hearing) but he had his X-ray vision less than a year in (April 1939).
Some other interesting dates (assuming my research is dead on):
Full on super-hearing (1939)
Super-breath as in a very impressive blowing out an opponent's torch (January 1940)
Super-ventriloquism (1941) (only included here because this was so early in)
Super-breath as in putting out a whole fire with a single gust (June 1941)
Super-loud voice (1942) (of course, it's only logical)
Using x-ray vision as heat vision (July 1949)
Freezing breath (May 1959) although he had technically done this in May 1943 but by first flying into the stratosphere to inhale some "sub-zero air"
Heat vision as separate power (1961)
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps I'm not sure how my statement could be considered partially wrong when your details list backs up exactly what I had said.
Anyway, when it comes to Superhero 'Powercreep' found in comics, Superman is a prime example character to point out.
@@dunringill1747 _"I'm not sure how my statement could be considered partially wrong when your details list backs up exactly what I had said."_
Maybe I didn't phrase it well. I guess I mean that Golden Age Superman is using his X-ray only 10 months after his debut hence saying "Golden Age Superman had no X-Ray vision" is not 100% a truth statement.
To illustrate with an extreme example, let's say Superman did no leaping around at all in his first published adventure but does in the second one would it be accurate to say "Golden Age Superman started off the weakest by far. He could not leap tall buildings in a single bound."? Of course not.
_"Anyway, when it comes to Superhero 'Powercreep' found in comics, Superman is a prime example character to point out."_
No argument from me. There's also Wonder Woman and Hulk.
2 more season till batman beyond if it's on the poll.
I'm guessing Justice League will be on a poll next but maybe Beyond will be next.
@@SGC51Batman Beyond came out first so I imagine they’ll do that first.
@@JKBlackCloverThey could skip it since it’s not next chronologically, plus even the creators have said it’s the worst written DCAU show and was really a Spiderman cartoon not a Batman cartoon. It also doesn’t tie into the rest to the DCAU shows very much. You could literally watch it last and it wouldn’t change anything
@@TheJjcczz It doesn't tie into the DCAU shows much except the episode Epilogue, which is a pretty big episode. But i guess you can skip Epilogue, watch all of JL, JLU and then Beyond and then come back and watch Epilogue.
@@TheJjcczz you're completely wrong that it doesn't tie in to the shows, stuff from this show come back in beyond specifically, and multiple episodes of JL make more sense if you've already seen beyond not just epilogue. regardless of what you or the creators think about the quality of the writing they should just watch it in release order.
He needs the scuba gear and space helmet to speak through the communication device.
Regarding the grappling gun through a wall Aaron was mentioning, I saw that exact thing done in the movie SWAT with Samuel L Jackson, LL Cool J and Colin Farrell. They shot it into a perps wall and drove backwards taking down the side of the house.
It’s not secret that their are 3 seasons
The finale is here at last
Maggie Sawyer was in Smallville too.
At first when I saw the title I thought they weren't reacting to the show anymore then realised it is just the end of season 1 lol
Wonder Woman sometimes wears a cape and Aquaman has worn one for "ceremony". The Flash, I figure, wouldn't wear one because it would be too dangerous, even to himself, not just for drag and snagging on things (as Edna Mode points out) but it could whip around and slice him open and his blood must pump like at a percentage of lightspeed.
20:04 - Aaron, you're talking about the 2003 movie S.W.A.T. Colin Farrell's character makes that and calls it "The Key to the City".
I wish I could use those synapses for something useful, but instead I get this. Thanks, brain.
I watched the comics carefully during the Crisis on Infinite Earths back in 1985, because DC promised they were going to make Superman more "believable". Superman used to fly to other galaxies, didn't need to breathe for -- however long he needed, he could survive multimegaton H-bombs; after Crisis, he could survive a half-a-kiloton blast, he could fly in space -- but he could only hold his breath one hour. And no faster than light stuff any more. They may have altered his specs [several times] since then, but that was about the last year of my major comic buying.
I could put up with everything else, but no more flying to other planets? I kind of thought of Batman as the dark/gothic hero and Supes as the science-fictional hero. Flying to other worlds to fight aliens was a major draw for me!
Brian Cox: The first man to play Hannibal Lecter, in Manhunter.
See also: Adaptation, Super Troopers...
There's still more fellas
after superman i hope you guys watch batman beyond then justice league and justice league unlimited.
Superman needs aqautic gear because in this show, he needs oxygen. I never liked that Superman could just go into the vacuum of space in other versions without gear. I mean, he's an alien, but krypton had an atmosphere. Superman has lungs. Space should kill him from lack of air. So following suit, underwater, he'd also need air.
It's not that he needs oxygen, it's that he doesn't know that he doesn't need oxygen. He eventually figures it out during Justice League. He doesn't need food, water or oxygen, he can survive off of sunlight alone.
@@BaithNa >He eventually figures it out during Justice League.
Again you just made that up, even in Justice League Unlimited he's still using a spacesuit.
Yeeees, do Batman Beyond next. Than Justic League. GO ALL THE WAY!
didn't think anyone could take over Parasite's mind like that.
This is based on a comic book story in which the same thing happened.
Parasite episode was certainly a choice for a season finale for Superman. 1 down 2 to go
I think Superman wearing Scuba gears is for him communicate with that blond woman underwater. And, also, to sell toys, of course. Have you guys consider watching Freakazoid?
To my knowledge batman did grapple gun a wall behind a goon in Batman Return saving a Woman. Also the movie SWAT with Samuel L Jackson they came up with a big arrow that expanded inside of a wall and tore the wall out so the SWAT team could apprehend the bad guy.
This show is ok, but think about how much more personality and introspection batman got in his first season. He action is neat but Timm did not get Superman as a character imo, but thank god he didn’t go Byrne with it.
no body likes this show
I like this show, so you're objectively wrong.