I may not have understood all the science, but I very much appreciate the computer simulation and the original photography. Very helpful in understanding how massive it really was. Thank you!!!
Thanks for all the hard work simulating this disaster. I grew up in Scituate, MA in the 1970s and lived in the area in the 1980s & 90s. I visited friends who lived in the North End back at that time and remember Giorgio's Pizza and Bova Italian Bakery fondly. I have family who adopted 2 cats from the bakery and named them after it (Bova & Bee). Fond memories. Now in Boston, "as slow as molasses in January" is no joke! Edit: add stuff
Hello Cody, Yes, the Hope Slide might make a good target for simulation. I did publish a You Tube that features the Chehalis Lake (BC, Canada, 2007) landslide and tsunami that might interest you. th-cam.com/video/X3LuT1lP00c/w-d-xo.html Thanks.
Hello Fake Farmer, Yes, some call the Mosul Dam the most dangerous in the world. It is built atop slowly dissolving rock. A bad choice! A few months ago I did run a simulation of its failure... es.ucsc.edu/~ward/mosul-map.mov The simulation has not yet made it to the "You Tube" stage. Thanks.
Just a suggestion: you may have more viewership if you add some sort of audio/voiceover so the audience isn't simply sitting in silence. Great videos otherwise
ingomer200 in the ~1970s* west virginia had one of the worst, if not the worst flood in its history caused by a collapsing dam. make a simulation for a video on the tsunami *couldve been earlier/later then the ~1970s
Yes Thanks LegendCraft69 Gaming, That would be the Buffalo Creek Flood of 1972. 500,000 m^3 escaped. It might make a good video. That case seems very similar to a recent movie I did called Bento Rodrigues Mine Disaster.mov th-cam.com/video/k0PWRiEWMTY/w-d-xo.html 70 million m^3 escaped there.
+ingomar200 I need to tell you that molasses is a shear thinning fluid,meaning that it gets thinner with more force. Considering the fact that it is 5 stories high,gravity would thin all that molasses for a while. Many science websites shared this. That is why it travelled at 54kph at the start.
Hello Daniell, Yes, just how to implement frictional resistance to flow in this story is a matter of debate. Total frictional resistance is some function of flow velocity and flow thickness, F(V,H) Likely, resistance goes up as velocity increases and flow thickness decreases. One functional class of intrinsic resistance is shear thinning as you mention. Even within this class however you have a huge leeway in implementation of F(V,H). Keep in mind that you really want to simulate Total Frictional Resistance not just intrinsic viscous friction -- the molasses has to push air out of the way for example. There is an additional dynamic drag force here. I chose the total frictional de-acceleration equal to Const*(Flow Velocity^2)/(Flow thickness) with the constant adjusted to match the observed extent of the flow. This seemed to work well, but there may be other equally good choices. Regardless of details, one end member that everyone can agree on is the "no friction at all" case that was shown in the video. This gives the 35mph initial flow rate, but clearly contradicts observations of flow extent.
It is said that on a hot summer day when in North End. You might actually be able to smell the molasses.
I smelled it in summer 1960, and there was a faint stain on buildings abutting the hill
you still can...
andi pandi Where in the North End? I work right near the North End.
I may not have understood all the science, but I very much appreciate the computer simulation and the original photography. Very helpful in understanding how massive it really was. Thank you!!!
Thanks for all the work. I grew up there and heard the stories for years. This really tells what happened.
Warm molasses-Has the viscosity of chocolate syrup.
Winter-chilled molasses-Solid
Such a sticky situation
Thanks for all the hard work simulating this disaster. I grew up in Scituate, MA in the 1970s and lived in the area in the 1980s & 90s. I visited friends who lived in the North End back at that time and remember Giorgio's Pizza and Bova Italian Bakery fondly. I have family who adopted 2 cats from the bakery and named them after it (Bova & Bee). Fond memories.
Now in Boston, "as slow as molasses in January" is no joke!
Edit: add stuff
Thank you, I had a hard time imagining the speed! Terrifying.
Ingomar, could you do a Hope Slide simulation on of these days? It's the largest natural slide in Canada.
Hello Cody,
Yes, the Hope Slide might make a good target for simulation.
I did publish a You Tube that features the Chehalis Lake (BC, Canada, 2007) landslide and tsunami that might
interest you.
th-cam.com/video/X3LuT1lP00c/w-d-xo.html
Thanks.
@@ingomar200 *4 years later*
A similar thing happened somewhere in Colorado in 1992 or so. Everyone thought it might be oil, but it turned out to be molasses!
It was in Loveland in 1990
I love your videos. I downloaded several simulations through your site.
I grew up in a city about 25 miles south. Brockton, MA. Thank you for this video 👏.
Really excellent, informative video. Thank you for all your work
Coincidencially I am learning aboit this in science class because of the viscosity bit.
Just want to say I love all of your videos :D
Stay awesome!
ingomar, would you please make a video of the Mosul Dam failure?
Hello Fake Farmer,
Yes, some call the Mosul Dam the most dangerous in the world.
It is built atop slowly dissolving rock. A bad choice!
A few months ago I did run a simulation of its failure...
es.ucsc.edu/~ward/mosul-map.mov
The simulation has not yet made it to the "You Tube" stage.
Thanks.
How did you choose a viscosity for the simulation?
Please do the Johnstown Dam break!
Just a suggestion: you may have more viewership if you add some sort of audio/voiceover so the audience isn't simply sitting in silence. Great videos otherwise
100% agree. Total silence was very off-putting.
Yes, I thought my phone failed:D
I second that, even some quiet background music could work too
@@Kitty-hf6vq it was probably uploaded just for a presentation, with them talking over it
Being autistic, I quite enjoy the silent videos.
Nankai tsunami please ?
What simulator did you use?
Nice work but very difficult to consume the visual information while reading the text.
You should do a simulation of the The Johnstown Flood disaster.
You should take a look through his uploads, he did one in 2010...
@ingomar200 this is reminiscent of the London Beer Flood of 1814.
Oroville damn please!
TaurusReborn yesss
★Excellent Educational Videos Thank-you!
Had it happened on a hot day, it would have spread much further and caused more damage.
i want to find a time machine
I wish I could have seen it in person!
Alex Chu The one piece of history that interests me other than WW2
just ignore The 7th
ingomer200 in the ~1970s* west virginia had one of the worst, if not the worst flood in its history caused by a collapsing dam. make a simulation for a video on the tsunami
*couldve been earlier/later then the ~1970s
Yes Thanks LegendCraft69 Gaming,
That would be the Buffalo Creek Flood of 1972. 500,000 m^3 escaped. It might make a good video.
That case seems very similar to a recent movie I did called
Bento Rodrigues Mine Disaster.mov
th-cam.com/video/k0PWRiEWMTY/w-d-xo.html
70 million m^3 escaped there.
How about the Chesapeake Bay impact and tsunami? Or Burckle Crater?
+ingomar200 I need to tell you that molasses is a shear thinning fluid,meaning that it gets thinner with more force.
Considering the fact that it is 5 stories high,gravity would thin all that molasses for a while.
Many science websites shared this.
That is why it travelled at 54kph at the start.
Hello Daniell,
Yes, just how to implement frictional resistance to flow in this story is a matter of debate.
Total frictional resistance is some function of flow velocity and flow thickness, F(V,H)
Likely, resistance goes up as velocity increases and flow thickness decreases.
One functional class of intrinsic resistance is shear thinning as you mention.
Even within this class however you have a huge leeway in implementation of F(V,H).
Keep in mind that you really want to simulate Total Frictional Resistance not just intrinsic viscous friction --
the molasses has to push air out of the way for example. There is an additional dynamic drag force here.
I chose the total frictional de-acceleration equal to Const*(Flow Velocity^2)/(Flow thickness) with the
constant adjusted to match the observed extent of the flow. This seemed to work well, but there may
be other equally good choices.
Regardless of details, one end member that everyone can agree on is the "no friction at all" case
that was shown in the video. This gives the 35mph initial flow rate, but clearly
contradicts observations of flow extent.
- drowns while eating molasses -
papa 👴
100th anniversary of this disaster
The video is great and interesting, but you could have add some audio as well. It is too boring this way.
Almost as interesting as the great emu war
what next what we going to die from if trump doesing kil us
when trump got into President office look what happened is in the bible