Is this the end of large-scale support for the war in Ukraine? | The Bottom Line
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- Was it an historic blunder for Western leaders to keep expanding NATO eastward, even though they knew it would provoke a war with Russia eventually?
Columbia University professor Jeffrey Sachs argues that the United States provoked the tragedy in Ukraine, and that the Biden administration should be working to resolve it, even if that means painful compromises - such as redrawing the map of Ukraine.
Sachs tells host Steve Clemons that the war is becoming less and less popular throughout Europe and the US, which means that large-scale funding may soon dry up.
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Thank you for speaking the truth. Nato is on Russia's border, not Russia on US border. Enough said.
No they were not but now NATO is because of Russian aggression, this idiot is at the same level as that failed McGregor loser
invading ukraine has only bolstered nato with finland on their border now, too. the fact you can't even protest with a blank piece of paper says all you need to know. if extreme conservatism and corruption with military aggression are reasons to invade, might want to invade russia. Wagner literally was able to take a whole city.
Russia doesn't get to decide about its neighbors as if they were Russian vasals or slaves. Countries want to join NATO because they are afraid of Russian invasion.
When did Ukraine become a member of NATO..?
@@stonehengemaca go and listen again, this time be attentive
Finally someone from the US who is willing to speak the truth behind this evil war
Independent Journalism
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- The New Atlas
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- The Grayzone
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Unlike Moscow where dissent gets a prison sentence for discrediting the military
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@@legaladvising1507
CONSIDER THIS: In London or Washington you could hold up a placard saying “No to NATO war in Ukraine” and not be arrested for it. Now try holding up a placard with “No to Russian war in Ukraine”, in Moscow.
@@damianphelan
# Free Gonzalo Lira
Dr. Sachs, one of the most sincere and wise men in the USA today. How I wish the USA congress would listen to him 👍
Dr Sachs is one of the best war analysts out there
seems like hes having trouble talking at a normal pace. probably in diapers
@@benhuffington8482still he is the best
You are idiot@@benhuffington8482
Tell me you have nothing to say, without telling me you have nothing to say, Huffers.
@@benhuffington8482Sadly, your ignorance is showing. You might want to check that?
watching Jeffrey Sachs on AlJazeera really made my day. Sachs has been screaming about these issues for a long time and is now, finally, being heard!
As a result of Israeli war
There is not a war in Israel it should not be framed as such. Israel is a occupying force backed by America and has violated human rights of the people of Palestine. The West turned a blind eye to war crimes commited against the people in Gaza. Gaza had been the victim of illegal drone strikes sanctioned by America for decades. The current genocide against the people of Gaza was inevitable given Israels psychopathic leadership and support given from UK America etc The treatment of the Palestine people is criminal.
This is now news worth listening. Wish for more true news
Finally, an interview that's worth watching. Sachs is an eminence
First time Aljazera has ever told the truth
Bcus they no that common man, is no knowing the truth, so they want to act in the way, that it will not affect them
Bcus I still remember, they are say is Russia War, now the sound has changed
God bless Prof. Jeffrey Saches more wisdom
😂😂😂😂😂😂true
Finally, the media is beginning to tell the truth
only arab and india channels. hahaha
You are lol, man. Zero mental analysis capabilities
Not FAKE NEWS NETWORK Not CNBC Not New York Post NOT Washington Post
Lots of Western independent channels have great coverage: The Duran, Brian Berletic, George Galloway MOATS, The Gray Zone, Jimmy Dore, Kim Iversen etc
@@PhilaTsavo hahahhaahaha
Sachs, Ritter, and MacGregor are my role models. These men are rare in this modern world. I off my hat to them anytime.
Listening to someone as sensible as Prof. Sachs is a such rarity in today's world
He is basically saying that Russia has the right to bomb any country that wants to join NATO, therefore, Ukraine, a sovereign country does not have the right to decide for itself!
@mca_a1131 cuba try to do everything as a independent country and we know what happened. U guys in west have too much doublestandard. Did Libya and Syria attack America?
@@mca_a1131Russia is doing exactly what ur countries are good at .
Lol, he is insane. He would change the tune in no time if he had the life experience behind the iron curtain like me.
@@majoklamthoan9563 You really don’t know what you are talking about. I think you should go visit Russia, China, Iran and North Korea. Even better…relocate!
Dr. sachs is one of very few people who are informed and honest on this topic.
This is good stuff, finally somebody is telling and giving the FULL picture of how Ukraine-war came about! US and NATO are NOT at all too innocent in all of these.
I knew it from day 1
❤ I totally agree 100% with Professor Jeffrey
mainstream media is sending a message by having Professor Jeffrey on this show.
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
Mainstream to whom?
Thank you for having Professor Sachs on to explain the reality of the Ukraine conflict.
I am from Russia and I grieve every day knowing that people on both sides die, this should not have happened, the fact that the war broke out is beyond comprehension given how intertwined people-wise Russia and Ukraine are. I dread to think what legacy it will leave. I pray for a negotiated peace, I have been praying for it since day 1. How could world leaders fail to prevent the direct war conflict is beyond me…
We can thank the American weapons industry for at least part of the deaths
As an American, I never supported the war nor Ukraine. Problems in that region of the world should be resolved respectfully with the leaders of that region. The American gov doesn't represent its people as a whole. We are very split here.
The time I sah USA is muving out from Afghanistan, the next War will be at Ukraine.
Unbelievable so many young man are killed for this Bandera Faschist
Agreed friend, but just remember, your country are on the right side, president Putin is protecting you and your people from evil usa/eu/nato, never forget that👍❤️
As Putin has said "The Nazi`s have won WWII" and they are holding very high positions in the USA.
Neighbors should be allies not enemies. This war should be quickly stopped because it doesn't make sense.
America has a history of making neighbors into enemies.
Agree. People may not know but Ukraine is a bully, too. only that they are dealing now with a bigger bully - Russia. otherwise ukr are not angels either. They are arrogants and caused troubles to Romania - their neighbour country. for years but nobody speaks about it
Ukraine refused to be friends with Russia. They prefer to host NATO bases and biolabs, killing and using ethnic Russians for experiments.
Unfortunately it makes sense for Washington & other NATO governments in the US pursuit of world domination.
The sense lays in letting the slavic goys kill each other off. Or said differently: If two are in quarrels, watch out who is cashing in as the third party.
America gets bored with its wars pretty quick. Ukraine should have sought peace when they had the chance.
Jeffrey Sachs is a legend, factual, honest and passionate x much love
Thank you Al Jazeera for a Great Program, more people need to see this, sachs is so on the ball.
Prof. Jeffery Sachs always speaks the undiluted truth…
Except he forgets to mention all of the lobbying conducted by Eastern European states, especially Poland, including cheekily aligning with republicans against Clinton so long as he opposed their membership into NATO. The Eastern Europeans are ultimately responsible for engineering the geopolitical situation in Europe. That said, the Russians have demonstrated in this war by the troop withdrawals from NATO borders and their refusal to accept a treaty that would prevent Ukraine from joining NATO if Russia promised not to invade, which are all indications that the Russians don't really think that NATO was ever going to invade Russia, instead it was going to check their expansion opportunities. Regardless of the West's flaws, the Russians are the guiltiest party here. When it comes to politics on this grand a scale, there are no good guys in foreign politics just worse bad guys.
He should be spokesman for Kremlin. He just repeats what Kremlin is saying, quite literally every point he had, is from Kremlin point of view or Kremlin propaganda. All utter BS, but without Russian accent. With exception to George Kennan, who isn't quoted by Kremlin, but at this point was nothing but a historian from a niche wing that aligned with Kremlin interests on the matter.
@@netiturtlewell kremlin is right...so the prof is speaking the truth...would you not do anything if a terrorist gets a home in ur neighborhood?😂
Correct, NATO has no interest whatsoever in attacking Russia, would never invade Russia and even now, after 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine still won't invade (unless Russia invades NATO territory first). Moreover, none of NATO's Eastern European member states have any territorial claims against Russia. Russia on the other hand, regularly makes territorial claims against Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, the Baltic states or even Poland (just yesterday newly appointed by Putin governor of occupied Zaporizhya Oblast said in an interview, that Warsaw and Helsinki belong to Russian Empire and should be "liberated" using military force).
As for Poland and other Eastern European nations being the main actors pushing for NATO eastwards expansion, that is also correct, but you can hardly blame them for doing so. If Russian Empire and later USSR didn't constantly invade, brutalize and occupy/subjegate all of Eastern Europe for the past 300 years, those nation wouldn't seek protection from NATO and joining the western block on the first possible oportunity. That is also entirely on Russia.
@@farisshaikh1026 _Russians have demonstrated in this war by the troop withdrawals from NATO borders and their refusal to accept a treaty that would prevent Ukraine from joining NATO if Russia promised not to invade, which are all indications that the Russians don't really think that NATO was ever going to invade Russia, instead it was going to check their expansion opportunities_
Source? If that was the case the US led west would have talked about this loudly non-stop to justify its involvement but they haven't.
NATO was created to stop Soviet Union , so expansion of NATO reaching Russia's border would be considered a threat . Any country eg India would consider it threatening if USA build a military' coalition surrounding India
Excactly. It's like China setting up missiles and military bases in US neighboring countries such as Mexico and helping fund and equip separatist groups who are pro-CCP and anti-American to overthrow Canada's democratically elected officials. If the shoe was on the other foot, we all know what the response would be, I mean we literally threatened to Nuke the USSR over missles in Cuba and according to RFK Jr. there were some hawkish generals trying to convince his uncle JFK to nuke the Soviets because their losses would be greater than ours. That let's you know how our own government, aside from a few, just views us as nothing more than expandables.
Russia too has expansionist tendencies with its tentacles spread over Eastern Europe and Africa .. there is no Angel here
@@manishchhetri
every country that can get away with expansionism will expand.
USA itself was puny 13 original colonies. Today's USA's western border is literally the border between North and South Korea.
Total expansionism.
@@manishchhetriBingo! I don’t trust any of the world powers. They all have world domination aspirations.
@@manishchhetribs.
Very interesting interview with Prof. Sachs on the Ukraine conlict. His analysis on the history of the conlict is accurate and reflects the opinion of many American intellectuals. He shows how America is critical towards the drive to arm Ukraine without a clear goal, or a goal that is impossible to reach. He points at the solution through a “negotiated peace”. I follow his publications regularly. Highly recommended.
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The American Empire does have a clear goal - dominate the world under the guise of spreading democracy.
Russia just stood in America's way.
For the First time, I attentively listen to entire interview on Ukraine-Russian War.
wonderful discussion! hats off to Professor Jefry for telling the truths!
Untruths
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That guy was a pretentious idiot. No facts just strong opinions. Russia isn't owed anything, all the countries that joined NATO did on their own accord. You know he was geeking hard for Putin.
Biden, the majority US power mongering politicians, and deceived citizens cannot take the facts and truth. That's the reason why the US is a Dreamland.
@@damianphelan Prove it it's not true.
Surprised he is allowed to say that in mass media
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This is how they prepare the public for backing out of Ukraine. Suddenly someone like Sachs can appear on AJ. Suddenly European leaders and American Republicans can speak out against it.
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They have used and dumped Ukraine 😂😂
Because Ukrainian population brainwash they have Bing? They don’t think for themselves
I told you so. (Not you literally.) 6 or 8 years ago.
Israel is next
Professor Sachs, Professor Chomsky and Professor Mearsheimer are gods among insects. Bless them
This man Jeffery has spoken nothing but plain truth. Hats off professor. Negotiation should be the way to go.
Tell the Ukraine leaders to Forget about it! No more money for Ukraine! It is over !
... So YOU have made a decision, have you ? ... How frightening ! ...
Just give them your overtime Tovarivich
Mr Sachs a legendary 💯
If the world accept the reality, prof Sachs told us!!
It is accepting this reality slowly, brother, the world needs more time to get out of American propaganda and we need to act actively in this anti American propaganda.
As we see it is working as their propaganda almost failed against Russian inversion
I haven't listened to this because very often foreign experts have no clue. In my opinion, the main intention of russia is not to fight NATO in the first place, but the idea of restoring a great russian empire/USSR, so they expand by killing other nationalities. If you know the history of Ukraine and russia, you would understand the latter deliberately tried to erase ukrainians identity for centuries through persecution, killings and artificial famine, and now the "madman" can not sleep at night by knowing Ukraine is an independent state that wants to make own decisions regardless of Moscow's will. Of course, the majority of russians are crazy and they believe that russia protects russian-speaking people (by destroying their cities and lives) and of course fights against evil NATO, and if they conquer other former ussr republics one may become the force that opposes NATO, but this will never happen!
And important remark: not NATO expand to the east, but countries joined the alliance in response to an aggressive policy of russia toward its neighbors. As proof, Sweden and Finland never planned to join NATO before the war started in 2022, and no one even talked about taking Ukraine before 2014, not even one planned to join, nor did have the support of the population.
Thank you to Aljazeera by inviting prof Jafrey Sacks to explain USA and Nato changing regem around the globe his geopolitical explanation has great influence around the world even in Africa we wake up thank you from 🇿🇦
The western Media should listen to this wise man
After 20 months of drowning us in lies Finally some Truth comes through. Phew 😅!!!
Al Jazeera would never air this programme one year ago.. but now because they know Ukraine is being decimated by Russia they decide to start telling the truth by bringing on legend jeffrey sachs
At Kyiv, Kherson and Kharkiv
Exactly. The western MSM is now slowly beginning to put out some semblance of truth, knowing that they have to soon explain how they all (all the major media) got it so wrong. Just like how they collectively promoted the war against Iraq on the lie that Saddam has WMD. How can they ever live with their conscience? I guess the annual $300 million propaganda budget to demonize the "enemies" is enough for them to lie through their teeth.
Well well..,...
I agree, double faced ALAZEERA throughout its interest history. I detected this disgusting attitude while it covered Turkey since day one.
A very good observation.
A year back this channel was totally towing the line of Western media - piling lies over lies. Now there is some shift in the Western media so this channel also has started speaking the truth.
All Arab states are slaves of the West in the true meaning of the word.
Sir I have never seen such an honest person as you are, God bless you
Mr Sachs speaks sense ❤
good to see Jeff Sachs. his voice needs to be heard
Unfortunately, Jeffrey Sachs lost all of his credibility. His America-centrism and US exceptionalism makes him completely blind to Russian or Chinese imperialism and he's been known to repeat Russian/Chinese propaganda talking points in the past.
@@flopoz2575 lol that's because you've been indoctrinated by American propaganda instead. it's not only the Russians and Chinese that can run propaganda!
On the contrary - Mr Jeffrey Sachs is an expert in geopolitics. His credentials speak for themselves.
@@flopoz2575i heard no lies from Jeffrey. He cited sources for lines of thinking in his interview. You just don’t like what he said. 😂
@@Western_Decline Dude, you're channel name is *SAY NO TO WESTERN IMPERIALISM & NATO* and your tag is @Western_Decline You seem like a totally unbiased person xDDDDDDD
J Sachs is such an intelligent man I always watch his shows
Sir Hats off such a blunt truth being told earns a great respect..... Thank u
Professor Jeffrey talking the truth
We are lucky we have people like Prof. Sachs who is brave, has sense of justice, and motivated to expose the truth hidden far far in the dark while we are unlucky until now only few people like him have such awareness. People have been benumbed for so long time by their wrong leading propaganda spreading around, the weak, the poor, the side being bullied cannot speak up for themselves so that they had been misunderstood, deviled, slandered even murdered in a silence, like what they have done to Iraq, Iran, Syria, Russia, China, etc. and now going on with Palestine. It’s time for the world to wake up. Be safe Prof. If a country got rich by this, it cannot be called civilization. I trust conservation of energy-- they have to repay what don’t belong to them. We are seeing that.
Excellent Jeffrey Sachs analysis
Yes. 100% Fascinating Discussion. So confident
Professor Jeff is a very educated and intelligent man with very good knowledge of alll world affairs
Absolutely true Professor Sachs. The sheer tenacity of the statesman!
They should also comment about Putin wanting Nazis out of Ukraine.
If you want Nazis out of Ukraine. Ask the Kremlin to withdraw its army
Then why he is sending nazis to Ukraine? Ever Heard of Utkin, or the Rusich batallion?
@@alvaro701Ukrobott 😂...
He is a brilliant Equalizer for the world 🌎
Just look at our past history, we always walk away and leave our so-called”friends” hanging- and forget about those killed!
Prof Sachs stands by the truth, I can listen to him all day. The western media is a total mess of falsehood
Agreed with his opinings .stop the stupidity actions US creating the wars
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Russia created this war because it didn't like Ukraine being democratic and independent.
Russia invaded not the US. Try to keep up
@@jerrymiller9039NATO expanded. Try to keep up.
@@jsde1601 Again NATO never promised not to expand and the reason it keeps expanding is because Russia keeps invading its neighbors. Try checking out reality for a change, comrade
Thanks Alhazeera for bringing such and informed person
Thanks, Professor Jeffery 👍👍👍
Dr. Sachs does not fail in the fight for the good cause. An excellent and timely defense.
The professor sounds very reasonable
Jeffrey Sachs is a wise man. I have many of his books, and am proud of having them. If world would choose leader like him, we could live longer as a species.
Jeffrey spot on. We have to listen to both sides
We ordinary people already knew these facts. Kudos to you, dude.
When Zelensky speaks, I hide my wallet.
I would too Tovarivich
gimme gimme....gimme gimme gimme....GIMME! More GIMME MORE!
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Kids, old people and vulnerable surviving the winter, while Russia for the second year running attempts to destroy the energy grid and deny access to clean drinking water.
Gimmie, Gimmie more munitions to protect innocents, thanks for the confirmation Erik
Indeed....@@damianphelan start a war, by hook....or by crook....and be ready to watch YOUR people suffer, not just the "enemy". "When a forest is cut....splinters fly".....
@@damianphelanreally? I guess thats why they are partying hard in Kyiv. The pubs and disco's and night life are booming as widely reported by even Kyiv friendly media. Even Zelensky had to tell his people to stop partying so hard. Doesn't come across as deprived in anyway.
Say no to endless war funding,20 years in Afghanistan trillions spent with nothing to show for, our tax dollars our necessities,😊
Military industrial complex benefits from blood of humans. Devils.
Trillions spend on Afghanistan.
Now for Israel
The true American in essence. Hats off to Professor Jefry.
Spokesman for the kremlin? Useful idiot? God I hope not
God ... love to see professor Jeffrey being able to speak on a channel that have such a large audience. I hope that he will soon be a widespread voice and people will start to see some arguments, other that those mainstream media told US and EU public by now
They should make him president maybe we will get somewhere sane
True talks. This war must stop
I am for the people of Ukraine they want democracy and the freedom for the people !!!
May there be peace in this world
Thank you 🙏 so much Dr Jeffery Sachs. Telling the truth is our humanity duty. Bravo Sir 👍🏻
If everyone care about Ukranin people peace. Please stop support zhelensky. Then Putin will win. Ukraine people will be free
There are a lot of people in russia besides putin,why does it always come down to one person? WTF
This media is inviting respectful people like Prof Sachs and allowing him to speak. Media like CNN would interrupt him throughout interview
Very insightful.
Thank you for telling the truth
Well done to Al Jazeera for having Jeffrey Sachs on. Nothing like speaking the truth.
Finaly true words spoken
It would be good if some expert like Jeffrey Sachs would explain why the west, and in particular, the European Union view Russia as a threat after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. What has Russia done in the past to justify this fear? Since World War II, they have dissolved the Warsaw Pact, they have tolerated the expansion of NATO, they have traded with Europe, provided Europe with food, resources, and cheap energy. Surely, Russia must have done something that threaten the west and Europe existentially.
Invaded Georgia and Crimea to start with
Based on that circular logic, you can also add in Ukraine.
Exactly this. Jeffrey completely disregards the view of most part of Europe.
Georgia invaded South Ossetia and Russian peacekeepers were attacked. Crimea was a response to the US backed unconstitutional coup. There coup govt would have extended the civil war to Crimea (Russian population + Russian military bases in Crimea) @@bigmac201
The answer is simple, Europe doesn't want any other country to have large influence in the world, they are just full of hypocrites. Imagine America building nuclear warhead and being the only country to use nuclear weapon but trying to stop other countries from developing nuclear weapons so that can able to continue bullying and stealing from smaller countries.
This man is a gift to humanity
Well said 👏
What a great discussion.
👏👏👏👏 Simple geopolitical truth right there.
Jeffrey the only USA 🇺🇸 left with his senses 😅..
Scott Ritter ,Duglas MacGregor, много кто говорит правду.но вы не слышали их.
Irffrey sachs is the best analyzers...your the best sir thank you
This man speaks the Truth..... If it was okay for US to make Kosovo it's okay for Russia too. You can't have it both ways Wester media
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You have no idea what you are talking about.
@@abel2356 whats he wrong about?
@@danielxbox28 my answer was censored
It's good to see Ajazeera getting out of the delusional shadows of western mainstream with this interview. i hope more people get to understand they have been lied to about this conflict all along.
At last real facts .thank you sir
BRAVO FOR THIS INTERVIEW
Yes fascinating discussion indeed
I,am listening you from the Land of the brave Namibia, and I have got no word to say but to salute you what you are talking is true.
This guy is an extra-ordinary interviewer.
Is gratifying to see Prof Sachs in Al Jazeera. He is a good man. A man of integrity. Objective and knowledgeable. Is such a shame most of the mainstream Western news medias ostracized him but I am not surprise because they a not interested in the truth.
Always the best explanation 🙏🙏 Thanks
Steve Clemons is an outstanding interviewer
I like your analysis. Very truthful and informed
What a great guest! Jeffrey Sachs is brilliant and extremely well informed! I find his perspective very helpful. Thank you!
Excellent incisive questions by Steve Clemons, as well. It must be a pleasure to do such terrific interviews.
Few analysts share these kinds of facts
i agree 👍🙏🇮🇳
Speaking facts without fear of favor respect sir we need more people like you
I agree 💯 with Professor Geffry❤❤❤ very good Conversation 👍👍👍 i admire you for standing the truth!!!
Great to hear the true. Hope to have more voice on focus on peace making n long term solution
What professor said is a plain truth no matters what kind of prices have to paid,Russia is not going to back from Ukraine unless Ukraine back from nato dream,same thing also applied to China and Taiwan if Taiwan and Usa crossed the red line set by China
What USA accomplished here is just to unite all the countries that were neutral before, and didn't care what happened in Africa or Iraq, and some were even in friendly relationship with USA before, now are openly against them and in favor for Russia. Russia now have more friends in the world than ever before.
Atleast Al Jazeera has told the truth but it is too late