Hi Rob, thanks for the three rig test, I would be good to see that test done to show the 360 aspect. How do the 3 rigs react if the fish moves sideways or back towards the rod. Really the test you did moving directly away from the rod was always going to give similar results. Keep up the great work Stan
I've been using slack lines ever since MPS came up with mag heads in early 2000's, you need to lose the old ball chains and buy Cygnet/Muddy Waters Clinga Cords, having the weight where it needs to be ie directly under the head makes all the difference to indication! Your previous findings of slack lines not being as sensitive will be down to under tow / resting on weed so more line is out and needs taking up before you register bleeps where as tight line is cutting through weed ect making it a more direct route! I would like to see more underwater shoots, more on pva bags solid and mesh in silt on gravel etc more on plain uncoated braid hook links not just same old coated! 👍🏼
Great video with useful information. I would like to compare Delkim indicators and "traditional" indicators with tight line. That would be interesting i think.
Another great video with Rob. Can I raise a point though which I think would be beneficial with your demonstrations like this. Imagine the fish picks up the rig and doesn't run directly away from the angler? When the fish realises its picked up a hook and panics it can run in any direction. Would you get any indication from the slack line rig if the fish runs straight towards the angler unless it is a running lead or if the line snags on the weed? It would be good to see the results showing going away from the angler and going towards the angler as either are a likely scenario. I think what you said about the weed would come into play with the fixed lead as well as the line might not slacken up enough to register. Please note this is not knocking your video but thinking of a way to answer some more questions that I and probably other anglers might have after seeing what you did here.
Awesome video.. Well done. I have a good question: The chod-rig.. At what distance can you fish a chod-rig with a tight line? (So that it's not of the lake bed anymore) example at : 25 yards, 50 yards, 75 yards and so on. With Sir Hughes diving skills it could be useful.
Think you should do an underwater investigation as to if clipping your spomb up at a different range to your fishing rods is as true as they say(which it makes sense). But maybe in different depth of waters get some actual accurate numbers as to how much we should be doing it if we need to. Be interesting to see
How would the same test work if you had to use back leads if you was fishing a canal for instance on the far margins and there was a weed bed in the middle what are your thoughts I only as because I am going to start on a canal soon and never fished them before so trying to get as much information as I can before I get on the bank
Regarding the line bites part I'm sure if it was a super slack line ud have pretty much no line bite surely!? Plus I'm sure if a fish did happen to go heads on with the Tight line and move it a fair way youd get indication then!..... Also regarding the use of alot of maggots I'm guessing this only really applies to the low stocked sort of lakes with mainly just carp in as surely with a more mixed bag water it wouldnt matter so much using alot, same I'm assuming on a river!?
And when they swim towards u? Which surely is 50% of time especially if u fishing at range. Pretty sure a heavy ru.nning lead best then but would of been nice to see that tested
Nice movie but it's a pity you did not test when the fish is swimming to your side. Because then the running rig will gives much more bait indication. Also when you get a bite from a small fish who can not lift the lead a running rig gives more indication. Fix lead gives more chance to hook the fish because of the weight of the lead.
A fish could run into your line 50 yards away so it's no indication that fish are in your baited area also could be right in the margin,what you say is debatable but interesting,to get a clear indication of the fish moving toward you would have to place the indicators higher off the ground,for me their is no mistake for a tight line as when that lead moves it's a bite,if it comes toward you and the drop back indicator is on the floor,that's a bit more than a line bite,you know then that lead has been moved.
Use delkims you’ll register way more liners on a tight line. Common sense. Your lines that tight there’s no slack to pull through the alarm and turn the wheels. Also mega unimpressed with your first test. All 3 lead set ups on a tight line were obviously going to be same. Semi slack vs slack would have been more beneficial. Also take the weed bed out of the equation for the sake of the test. Move to a clear line lay so we can have an accurate result.
Thanks for the input Elliot. I always make these real and not "engineered" and there are loads of times where there isn't a clear line lay between rod and lead so this is pretty accurate for that situation. I reckon if we do the more technical ones, it's easier to guess the straightforward ones not vice versa. Interesting that you think it was "obvious" that all three set ups were going to be the same. Not everyone is as convinced as you hence the question being put to me. Either way, keep watching mate and if there's anything that you'd like me to look at or help with feel free to drop us a message and we will try and put it on the list.
Thanks for sharing, the maggot bit at the end really surprised me but like they say u learn something new every day🎣👍
Thanks kaney
Excellent Rob really enjoyed it some brilliant insight into what is happening underwater that we never get to see .
Excellent insight that unforetuneatly most of us never get see, thanks for sharing
Thanks glad you enjoyed
As usual Rob great video, l really enjoy your underwater videos, it answers a lot of questions that we are unable to answer for ourselves.
Great watch as always rob looking forward to the next vid 🐟🎣👊👊
Great video. Very interesting stuff 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for sharing the maggots at the end was a real eye opener
Hi Rob, thanks for the three rig test, I would be good to see that test done to show the 360 aspect. How do the 3 rigs react if the fish moves sideways or back towards the rod. Really the test you did moving directly away from the rod was always going to give similar results. Keep up the great work
Stan
Oh, go on, do a winter one on fish shoaled up!
Great vid yet again, great info as always! Keep safe👍🎣
Be great to see. Not sure if Rob would want to get in the water in the depths of winter though 😬❄🤪
@@DynamiteBaitsTV course he would hardcore rob haha
Cracking vid again rob and some useful info
Good stuff mate thank you, maybe a video on how a inline lead setup
Would land on silt? Cheers
Thanks for the feedback. We will be producing more of these this year so questions like this will be taken on board 😉
Cheers mate I'll put it on the list.
Really interesting video, thanks for sharing.
Loving these Rob keep them coming! Thank you.
thanks Jay
Another epic video thanks from Caravan Carpers TH-cam 💪🏻
Thank you glad you enjoyed it
Always good advice
I've been using slack lines ever since MPS came up with mag heads in early 2000's, you need to lose the old ball chains and buy Cygnet/Muddy Waters Clinga Cords, having the weight where it needs to be ie directly under the head makes all the difference to indication! Your previous findings of slack lines not being as sensitive will be down to under tow / resting on weed so more line is out and needs taking up before you register bleeps where as tight line is cutting through weed ect making it a more direct route! I would like to see more underwater shoots, more on pva bags solid and mesh in silt on gravel etc more on plain uncoated braid hook links not just same old coated! 👍🏼
Love all the tips! really helping as i get back into fishing.
Great video with useful information. I would like to compare Delkim indicators and "traditional" indicators with tight line. That would be interesting i think.
Really well done.
Another great video with Rob. Can I raise a point though which I think would be beneficial with your demonstrations like this. Imagine the fish picks up the rig and doesn't run directly away from the angler? When the fish realises its picked up a hook and panics it can run in any direction. Would you get any indication from the slack line rig if the fish runs straight towards the angler unless it is a running lead or if the line snags on the weed? It would be good to see the results showing going away from the angler and going towards the angler as either are a likely scenario. I think what you said about the weed would come into play with the fixed lead as well as the line might not slacken up enough to register.
Please note this is not knocking your video but thinking of a way to answer some more questions that I and probably other anglers might have after seeing what you did here.
Thanks for the comment John . Good point. Rob might take a look and answer this one
Nice one mate. I'll look at that once the water warms up
Awesome video.. Well done.
I have a good question: The chod-rig.. At what distance can you fish a chod-rig with a tight line? (So that it's not of the lake bed anymore) example at : 25 yards, 50 yards, 75 yards and so on. With Sir Hughes diving skills it could be useful.
Nob
Depends on the depth and the distance plus if there’s anything between your rod tip and the rig
Again brilliant watching ! 🙂👏👏
thanks Sean
Nice 1 Rob very interesting
Brilliant, sheer brilliant video 👏👏👏👏
thanks Kev glad you enjoyed it :)
Rob is the man.
Thanks mate
thank you rob - super content.
Think you should do an underwater investigation as to if clipping your spomb up at a different range to your fishing rods is as true as they say(which it makes sense). But maybe in different depth of waters get some actual accurate numbers as to how much we should be doing it if we need to. Be interesting to see
It's been done on fox channel
th-cam.com/video/B-XoimvtQiI/w-d-xo.html
I'll do an update with a few more twists to it this summer
Tight lines far out slackened closer in ,u can even use tight lines in closer in without any problems
So helpful cheers rob
Brill Rob very informative 👍🏻👌🏻
Mega insight ! Thank you ! 🐳🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
thanks glad you enjoyed it
Great insight
Excellent
Great video just wish the camera in the left was abit bigger, really struggling to see the bobbins move but still very informative cheers
Will see what we can do to fix that next time out mate
It would have been interesting to simulate a drop back bite or kite across the lake
How would the same test work if you had to use back leads if you was fishing a canal for instance on the far margins and there was a weed bed in the middle what are your thoughts I only as because I am going to start on a canal soon and never fished them before so trying to get as much information as I can before I get on the bank
It would have been interesting to see an inline lead
Regarding the line bites part I'm sure if it was a super slack line ud have pretty much no line bite surely!? Plus I'm sure if a fish did happen to go heads on with the Tight line and move it a fair way youd get indication then!..... Also regarding the use of alot of maggots I'm guessing this only really applies to the low stocked sort of lakes with mainly just carp in as surely with a more mixed bag water it wouldnt matter so much using alot, same I'm assuming on a river!?
Thanks 👍
Great!
And when they swim towards u? Which surely is 50% of time especially if u fishing at range. Pretty sure a heavy ru.nning lead best then but would of been nice to see that tested
Most excellent.
Cheers iain
Nice movie but it's a pity you did not test when the fish is swimming to your side.
Because then the running rig will gives much more bait indication.
Also when you get a bite from a small fish who can not lift the lead a running rig gives more indication.
Fix lead gives more chance to hook the fish because of the weight of the lead.
A fish could run into your line 50 yards away so it's no indication that fish are in your baited area also could be right in the margin,what you say is debatable but interesting,to get a clear indication of the fish moving toward you would have to place the indicators higher off the ground,for me their is no mistake for a tight line as when that lead moves it's a bite,if it comes toward you and the drop back indicator is on the floor,that's a bit more than a line bite,you know then that lead has been moved.
Thats exactly the conclusion we make too with tight lines. A liner at 50 yards may not show at the rod end
Use delkims you’ll register way more liners on a tight line. Common sense. Your lines that tight there’s no slack to pull through the alarm and turn the wheels. Also mega unimpressed with your first test. All 3 lead set ups on a tight line were obviously going to be same. Semi slack vs slack would have been more beneficial. Also take the weed bed out of the equation for the sake of the test. Move to a clear line lay so we can have an accurate result.
Thanks for the input Elliot. I always make these real and not "engineered" and there are loads of times where there isn't a clear line lay between rod and lead so this is pretty accurate for that situation. I reckon if we do the more technical ones, it's easier to guess the straightforward ones not vice versa. Interesting that you think it was "obvious" that all three set ups were going to be the same. Not everyone is as convinced as you hence the question being put to me. Either way, keep watching mate and if there's anything that you'd like me to look at or help with feel free to drop us a message and we will try and put it on the list.
Every test has the "fish" moving away, ideal circumstances
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logic dictates what makes a difference to indication would be distance between lead and hookbait regardless of set up
Have u ever been under water and seen a take with your own eyes. And not just on a fixed camera
Yes mate. Amazing. On the bottom and on zigs. Difficult to film without a fixed camera but I’ve been lucky
@@RobHughesTV you certainly are 👍 keep up the good work🎣
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