The Origins of Italian Jewry The Jews of Italy Part 1 Dr. Henry Abramson
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- Introductory lecture in The Jews of Italy series (Spring 2019). Looks at the early settlement of Jews in the Italian peninsula up until the First Roman-Jewish War. For more information visit www.jewishhistorylectures.org.
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Again a beautiful lecture Henry you are the best Jewish history teacher I’ve ever seen. I loved you’re Sephardic series. One of my Sephardic ancestors was Moses Raphael Levy an early Jewish immigrant to New York who came from a very big Sephardic family. Wishing you a wonderful 2019.
Thank you so much! I appreciate your kind words! You have an interesting family history, wishing you a wonderful year as well.
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Thanks same to you.
I really appreciate your lectures, specially on us Sephardim Jews and descendants. You are a great scholar and we admire your lectures and knowledge.
Very excited to study this series Dr. Abramson. I promise to keep my comments to a minimum. As I've already studied the governing of Italy since their "Risorgimento", I look forward to your details on the political decisions made during the years after the accession to power of Benito Mussolini. And Kudo's to you for actually beginning the history of the Italian Peninsula's people since the time of the first Roman-Jewish War.
Dr. Abramson I read on google that the oldest synagogue in the world was found in Ostia near Rome.
My mother's family came from the central part of Italy and I have been fortunate to visit the country twice.
Thank you so much for these great videos on topics of Jewish history which others seem like they don't want to touch.
Thanks!
As per usual, a wonderful, concise lesson.
Italy had 3 jewish prime ministers before Mussolini
Interesting. I'm currently in the midst of reading The Jewish War by Josephus (as it was translated to Hebrew by DR. Simkhoni).
I'm looking forward to your future lectures regarding the subject.
I think we, as a people, have a lot to learn from that period and the mistakes made then in order not to repeat those same mistakes.
However, unfortunately, I feel there's too little known about it here in Israel. It's not something we learn extensively in history classes in schools and it's generally not widely known.
Also, an observation I have, just from the mere few chapters I have read in the book, is that old times Rome was not too different in essence than modern times USA.
The Jews have invited Rome (according to Josephus) to intervene in their administration (some Jews actually opened the gates for the Romans to enter Jerusalem, they opened the gates for Pompeius - he is Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus) which reminds me of how in today's era, Israel is relying more and more on USA which is not a good thing (I respect USA though, they are good allies, but we should strive to be independent as possible).
Hi, I saw a mindblowing video called "How christianity was invented", and I would like you to comment on that, if possible, because, the investigation, would point out to the invention of christianity as a means to collect taxes on a jewish population, which would not accept other gods... (the taxes were colected on the temple, hence it´s destruction...) th-cam.com/video/6f_8Z7fxfIY/w-d-xo.html
So many of us were hidden for so long. I'm Irish/Scottish and my mother's dna goes back to The Sub Saharan region. And my fathers gene wasn't as strong but it is Spanish Portuguese. We used to wonder why we were very dark skinned. All my friends were pale in comparison to my family. We were teased for our colour, not in a bad way, it was just joking, but they called us "darkies". We know our markers now. Dna testing showed up so much and yet we still don't know where it all changed and where we became "christian"..it's still a mystery. We know they were afraid probably and felt safer in the church where nobody knew them. I don't really know.
Thank you so much for your history videos is possible to have them also as podcasts
Thoughtful and balanced as usual. thank you very much
Can you do a video on ‘Simon of Trent’? Finding it hard to find any information on this.
Hi Henry,
Shared to Jewish Thought! and Jewish Wisdom facebook groups, BTW 👍
Dr. Abramson,
Since Jewish emissaries came to the Italian peninsula, probably along with craftsmen and merchants, even before the area of Judea became a Roman province, is it valid to conclude that descendents of these "Italian Jews" are neither Sephardim nor Ashkenazim, because they are pre-Diasporia?
Thus, aren't Italian Jews like other non-Sephardim and non-Askhkanism unique among worldwide Jewery?
Yes and yes
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Thank you for the response. My maternal grandmother ("nonna") was right!
Fascinating subject without a doubt. One question Dr. Abramson: You mention Caldean's that were apparently kicked out of Rome due to being Magicians of sorts. Would you happen to know if they were from the group Kasdim from the Tanakh? I actually know some people of Iraqi origin who solely refer to themselves as Caldean believe it or not...not Iraqi.
Thank you for this video. Such an important topic and very little acknowledged.
Great video. One little thing though - Pompey of course was not an emperor.
You're right!
Thank you.
I love your lectures. I watch them through Roku. You are an excellent teacher. I am a Bible Student and believe that all the blessing that God promised to mankind will come through the Jewish people so it is wonderful to learn about Jewish history after the destruction of the second temple. Please continue these great lectures. I share them with other Bible Students.
Ty! I appreciate your videos so much.
✡🕇 Jesus bless Israel!♡
Enjoy in good health!
I've just discovered that I might have some jewish ancestry.
A guy named Moses D' Medici Bonavoglia was a sicilian jew, he was also known as Moses Hefez, Bonavoglia is said to be a latinized version of Hefez.
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There are Jews by birth, Jews by choice, and Jews by surprise!
There are Jews by birth, Jews by choice, and Jews by surprise!
I'm reading about a Joseph from Alexandria whose tombstone in Milan is being dated to 500ish B.C.E! *edit* it is A.D.
There is documentation that my Family lived in The Piedmout Valley of Italy for at last 500 years ... But it was past down that they were Jews who had lived there since the first century and were called Israel Of the Alps ... Have You heard of this
2:50 a satellite image????
3:09 Roman Empire in last third of the second century BCE????
5:17 Emperor Pompey!!!!
I am afraid I couldn't go further than these howlers about Roman history.
I was also strcuk by "Emperor" Pompey in a time when Rome was still a Repubblic...
However, in general very interesting indeed!
Merci!
Thanks for supporting the research
Thank you for this video. If i may ask, is there a Jewish Royal Family today?
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there are lots of families that trace their lineages to the Kohanic or Levite caste and many that claim ancestry from the Davidic line through some notable rabbi...but there hasn't been any "exiliarch" for over 1,000 years ...
Look how they are different? Adolf Hitler 2000 years early almost! He said same thing but he as we know went a lot further sadly
Not sure I agree with the comparison.
@@HenryAbramsonPhD Your right on that. Bad compare I think I was tired when I wrote that:(
speaking about Israel before 1948 is not done
My skin crawls every time someone says common era
I bet math & science must really get your panties in a wad then..
Be a bit tolerant
Some people's belief in Christ is aided by the calendar using Before Christ, as if that proves something.
It's also wrong as Jesus of Nazareth was probably born around 4BCE, so scrapping the reference to Jesus is also just more accurate
Awesome. Brilliant content. Italy support Israel. Better off with both nations it Johnny Wilberton wall street banker and Art Bezrukavenko Italy Thomas.
"Common era"?
C.E. it is.
Yup
LoL how you doing
I "heard" that Caesar's mother owned apt buildings, C's family home, in the Jewish quarter of Rome....(I might have read That in a book/historical novel)....so much so that C spoke Hebrew.
Hebrew wasn't a dialect. At most one back then could read biblical hebrew. The language of a Hebrew was something else entirely.
But why did they leave their home to go to Italy????? other than when they were slaves. Romans take over their country and they pack up and go to the Romans' capital. Help. I'm confused.
Same as ever
Large city, lots of employment opportunities
There was a lot of irish immigration into London in the 19th century, similar situation
:)
holy shit i tried watching this, when do you stop explaining terms and talk about the history? sorry i had to cut it off 1/4 way through.
just member yalls females are italians if ashkenazi lol. from a dissemination from rome the city to outside of italy then the provinces.
Just found out Italian Jew is my origin this is helpful.
Southern Italian Jewry is a fractional minority of my heritage.
My great grandfather is a descendant of Corsican Judaic-Portuguese origin Southern Italian Jewry from Brazil who defected to the Dutch during the Portuguese/Dutch conflicts in Brazil. We are not necessarily Jewish though.
Southern Italian, Portuguese, and Jewish ancestry is often intertwined. Not to mention the Dutch.
My other great grandmother is Yiddish from Alsace, France and Judaic-Portuguese from Bordeaux, France.
In neither case do I inherit it matrilineally. But Southern Italian Jewry and Southern French Jewry are the most underrated Jewish communities. If I don't dare say.
Thank you so much, Henry! I wished to learn more about my Jewish Italian past since, due to the miracle of DNA testing, I had discovered that my father was 100% Sardinian Italian Jewish. (My dad's family must have migrated at some point from Sardinia to Ukraine, since my grandparents on my dad's side migrated to Canada and later to the U.S. from Ukraine.) Amazing how our Jewish history is so rich and interesting!
Interestingly and maybe with a certain amount of irony you reject "Maccabbees" in the Tanakh, but celebrate the feast of rededication of The Temple!? (i.e., Hanukkah)
Seems strange the events aren't important enough to be included.
Thank you Dr. Abramson. I am a proud member of the Yehudim Italkim. Thank you for doing this highly informative video!
Can't tell me you have not figured it out yet
I'm Italian and my parents always said that anti-semitism is not a part of the Italian character. And they always felt it was some sort of feeble minded remnant of "idiotecita' " umanitaria-God Bless you, Rabbi--Love the Jewish People
Hi,
Love your lectures.
Just one thing, though: Pompey wasn't the Roman emperor of the Roman Empire. Rome remained a republic until some time after his death.
@@HenryAbramsonPhD You're welcome. I actually figured it was a slip of the tongue or something.
Incidentally, I'm currently listening to your lectures on the Sephardic Jews, and was wondering if you maybe have a similar series on Ashkenazi Jews as well? Where did they come from (and when), how were they impacted by their environment and the culture surrounding them, and all that?
Nice work!
Thank you!
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Why did they go to the capitol of their conquerors? And how and when did the Christians get to Rome? Why go to the stronghold of their oppressors? Isn't that like Warsaw Jews, escaping, and going to Berlin?
Pompey was not an emperor as rome was not yet an empire during his time. He was a general amd consul.
Great video, but the title slide at 2:10 should read "Italian Penninsula" not the Iberian.
Thank you.
Henry-- Does this series include Rabbi Moshe David Valle? Would love to know more about him.
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Very recommendable
Very educational. May i ask if you can give a lecture on Nostradamus. Is he a Jew and is his father or grandfather really a rabbi? Anything on this subject will surely greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Israel??? You mean Judah???
It's the first time I have seen someone taking offense to BC and AD. How silly
It's only "Common Era" because of Christianity. I am happy to gloss CE as 'Christian Era'.
@jack ruff Well at least for secularists like myself it's not a problem since as you say it's ultimately just a traditional local convention and not a religious act. But I thought Judaism valued tradition, both cultural and religious. And I feel a strong connection to these Jewish principles which I'm a part of. And yes it's a shame that people have been persecuted by other people and in my opinion by doing so not been living up to these same values.
@jack ruff I should clarify. I didn't say jews should do anything against their religion or tradition. I have no problem Dr. Abramson using CE/BCE. I only object to the idea that secularists should not use AD/BC and only orthodox Christians, which goes against how it has been used in modern times. You could also think of the days and months as being dedicated to Roman and Norse gods? It's much preferable to change the interpretation than to do away with any culture and history.
And I do believe valuing history and religious culture is a Jewish value that other people can do in their own way as well.
@jack ruff Well this must be the first time I had some mutual reconciliation in a youtube comment section, which is even more interesting than disagreement. So thanks and I do share your points there not the least about intellectually informed discussion.
Not at all. Why wouldn't we use Jewish dates or Buddhist dates. Some ignorant people believe that because of BC that proves Christ was real.
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These Italians Jews migrated to Vegas....and run it. lol
It's not just Vegas bud. :^)
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Merry Christmas and a Happy Harmonica.
Why do you use the term “Israel”, and not Palestine, which was the name of the region in Roman times? This is NOT to quibble about current Middle East politics. But is it not anachonistic to refer to the region by the name assigned it only since 1948?
'Palestine' was used in the early second century, and was also used by the Greeks in the 5th century BC. I don't think 'Israel' was used at all from the fall of the northern kingdom in 721 BC. Can you indicate where and when 'Israel' was used as a toponym?
@@HenryAbramsonPhD l meant the use of 'Israel' to denote any of the land after 721 B.C. Judah, Yehud and Judea are used for the southern kingdom and it's successor but I'm not aware of 'Israel' being used . Any thoughts?
Henry Abramson I’ve read Palestine was a derogatory term to humiliate the Jews after their defeat. Hadrian Renamed it Syria Palestina or something like that.
It was the kingdom of Israel before it split into judea and Israel. Simple