"Rock, paper, scissors, match!" "All right! Rock beats paper." "I thought paper covered rock." "Nah. Rock flies right through paper." "Well what beats rock?" "Nothing beats rock." "All right, come on..." ::Kramer and Micky continue playing, both throwing rock every game::
"Rock, Paper, Scissors- actually before we go, if you pick rock I'll pick paper, if yoy pick paper I'll pick scissors, if you pick scissors I'll pick rock, therefore lets agree to a draw." "Agreed." "Agreed. Excellent. Another brilliantly played game."
Ahhhh, for a second i thought he yelled "Schiebung" which is a german word you say when you think somebody rigged the game you're playing xD i was really confused
Exactly. Need to ban BOTH Rock & Paper. Then the game just comes down to the Scissors Meta. Who cares about the people who invested time & money into learning how to throw Rock & Paper? or those who just enjoyed playing with them… it’s for the best of the game!
@@Grisu. are you being serious? You know this whole thing is a parody right? I mean it’s a joke… “nobody plays paper anymore just scissors” is funny… “nobody plays paper anymore just digital” sounds like you are actually just making a statement about current happening in the world of Magic the Gathering😵💫
What I often see are cEDH players, when they can't find a cEDH pod, try to join a casual one with their "weak" decks which often are just fridge cEDH or still high power.
from my experience in casual and competitive EDH, way more casual players want xyz banned then cEDH players. the only card on the current bann list that is there because of cEDH is flash but it was also very good in casual games thus they banned it. tho the competitive side has evolved so much over the last 2 years and currently flash probably would see very little play if it got unbanned. depending on which person is supposed to represent the cEDH community it's either hilarious or a miss represents the competitive side of this great format.
There is no competitive side of commander. 2 different formats. Mana Crypt was already either banned or unbanned in Commander due to rule zero and still is just like Coalition Victory. The bannings only affected Cedh. Cedh is the commander adjacent format where people actually have to follow the ban list.
Flash costs 2 mana to cheat in oracle then 1 mana for consultation. That's insanely more efficient than the current next best borne upon a wind which is +2 mana to this whole combo
They banned flash despite it not being a problem in Commander specifically because the cedh people wanted it. Read the announcement. It was a travesty, it should never have happened.
Paper beats Rock, Scissor beats paper, Scissors also happen to beats rock..... Until Rock hits 60 and becomes and unstoppable killing machine, then also beats paper, would beat scissors but it can't find scissors, because Scissors are invisible. Scissors beats paper and avoids rock and that is called balance.....
@@BobbyRunout_ClassicalChessC It's from an old World of Warcraft video, World of Roguecraft, talking about how Warriors are rock, rogues are scissors, most other classes are paper, and warlocks are mushrooms.
That is part of the universes beyond secret lair drop (I think they called it the 'Big Bang'). That's my theory anyway. If Remy does get that $400, he may* be able to afford one.
From the company that hired the Pinkertons to intimidate people who opened boxes early - I wouldn't be surprised if a good chunk of these death threats were sponsored by WotC to engineer the outcome of them taking over commander.
I remember when Magic players were mature enough that they wouldn't turn into Raging Goblin over a ban. It's almost as if a group of people has infiltrated and taken over Magic, and now their inherent toxicity is exposing itself. But hey, what do I know, I'm just some guy who has been playing Magic for 30 years.
What would rock paper scissors look like if one of the moves gave you more points? Say, scissors wins you 10 times the points of the other moves. How would this shape the game? One might think that the strategy would be to never play paper, since then I would never lose to scissors. But if I never play paper, then my opponent would never play scissors. But if my opponent never plays scissors then I would have no need to ever play rock. But if I never play rock my opponent will never play paper. But if my opponent never plays paper I'll never play scissors. But if I never play scissors my opponent will never play rock. But if they don't play rock I have no need for paper. But if I don't use paper they don't need to play scissors. But if they don't scissors then I don't rock. If I don't rock they don't paper. If they don't paper I won't scissors. If I don't scissors they don't rock. If they don't rock I don't paper. And at this point we could go over this loop again. You see, although it mind sound counterintuitive, I still need to play paper in order for the game to make sense. I might do it in a mixed strategy with less frequency, but I need to play the riskiest play every once in a while to keep my opponent honest. I need to bait I'll play paper in order for them to throw scissors and I catch them with a rock.
Obviously, I am sure its different at every lgs - but in my area, my experience has been the opposite. The cedh players are chill, and down to play with anything you bring. They give advice on deck building, and explain rules and concepts to newer players. Meanwhile casual players laugh at anyone they beat, bitch at anyone who wins, and wants half the format banned.
I'm a bit confused by this one, Remy. I think you missed the mark here lol. It's usually casual players who want the bans, not cEDH players. Most cEDH players I know play with proxies, so they can continue to use the most powerful cards without it being "pay to win". Idk many cEDH players who would be jumping to pay $400 for a card lol they are out there, but not representative of the cEDH community at large, at least in my experience. Most cEDH players that I know are unhappy with the recent bans. Still love your vids, and I'll be looking forward to the next one!
@@Giby86 The 4 most recent bans have had a ton of the community pushing for their ban, especially Nadu. Hullbreacher and other earlier bans were all heavily called for within the community as well. I think it's rather disingenuous to say the community had no impact on these cards being banned.
@@lisan3627 No, but you miss my point entirely. Flash was LITERALLY only banned because a part of the community ASKED for it. If they hadn't, Flash would NOT have been banned, they literally said so in the announcement. This is not true for the rest of the cards.
uh.... no.... it's the dorks who hypocritically complain about everyone else's decks being cedh, even while they are winning and playing more broken shit than everyone else at the table, who are the jackasses demanding bans.... not cedh players who are typically very fun to play with because they won't try to make you feel like a jerk for playing a card that you like.
And then the RC does ban Rock after listening to everyone complain about it for years, only for them to send the RC death threats because their Rock has lost value.
it's not the cEDH players I see complaining about cards they lose to, it's the casual tables. my typical experience was casting a couple of removal spells and opponents being grumpy for the rest of the game. i'm like what, I'm supposed to just let your commander live so you can draw your entire deck on turn 3? and they're like, well you can do your thing and i'll do my thing, stop messing with my fun. so i did, by not playing commander anymore
Wait is the guy in the black shirt the cEDH player? I don't follow this joke, the cEDH community famously doesn't like bans...is this about sol ring? Sol ring was a card for at least a decade before even the first commander sets.
It's about the bans of Mana Crypt, Dockside Extortionist and Jeweled Lotus. Some "fine folks" in the EDH (and cEDH) community didn't take on well to these bans and decided death threats to RC members would be an appropriate response... These last few days were dark days for the magic community...
My (largely former; I don’t play much anymore) casual group follows the banlist. Also, by god can they get salty when someone plays a card that they deem unfun. I don’t have much experience with more competitive environment, but my understanding has always been that they don’t really run into the same saltiness when someone plays stax or theft or instant win combos.
@@apurtee From what I've seen, most casual groups are all close friends. They tend to operate on a "it's not an issue until it's abused and becomes one" basis. If I saw someone pull out a mana crypt, I would laugh my ass of at them. And I would absolutely allow them to play it, and make fun of them the entire game for it. "So is it embarrassing to explain to the bank you're mortgaging your house for a casual deck?" "I know it's hard for you to reach your cards when your doing the backstroke in your money bin Mr Scrooge, but it's your turn." "I'd get you back for that one, but I'm concerned your Bond-Villain-ass has a death ray hidden around here."
@@apurtee you'd be surprised. The saltiest players on the planet are the people who play Cedh, but then they "this is my casual deck!!!! Why are you playing that?!?!? That's a Cedh card!!!! If you want to play that, I'm playing my Cedh deck too!!!" the rest of the time.
The irony here is that it’s not cEDH players who cry for bans 99% of the time, it’s the Casuals. Most cEDH players actively protest bans, and they’re the ones who play against the strongest cards and combos in the format. It’s always the casuals I hear crying to ban Thassa’s Oracle, Yuriko, whatever beat them last game…
I don't play magic and this wasn't as funny, but I don't see why people don't get the joke. He's making fun of casual players that spend too much money and get mad when they can't pay to win then suddenly want to change the rules.
Yes, this video would make sense if it was a jab at casual players. The title is refering to a generic competitive player, while the guy in the video is representative of (some) casual players.
@ I think it’s more the normal EDH crowd to be honest. For years I as a modern player have heard so much whining from casual EDH players about how non-commander products aren’t catered to them enough from “where’s my werewolf commander! wizards! I want a generic werewolf lord rather than do problem solving with creative deckbuilding!” To “why is the new green leyline 5 WUBRG identity. Now I can’t play it in my green decks” Not even mentioning the Nadu debacle. cEDH players only ever asked for flash hulk and Thassa’s Oracle to be banned and that’s it.
@@AdaWongMistress I hate cEDH; I like lower powered EDH. I just think it's not a good analogy. I did, however say that the sketch was funny. Two things can be true at once
Someone gets it. A lot of people have been calling for a separate ban list for cEDH, without getting that it would just make it a different format. EDH was defined by it's casual nature. And then we'd have players trying to take regular EDH to competitive levels, so we'd have cEDH, and then a c-sorta-EDH.
from what I know of cedh players they are more for a lighter banlist than a heavier one, but I am also aware of ppl who want rhystic and mystic banned so idk
But they ARE different formats, no? How is it different than the way we look at Vintage/ Legacy/ Modern/ Standard? Those are all 60 card constructed formats, but power level/ card pool keep them segregated so you know what you're getting into and should expect when you sit down. A lot of competitive formats began as casual play styles, so why should Commander be any different? Honestly, it's grown way more than any other format before it had appropriate regulation and involvement by Wizards. It's high time for some structure by people who aren't so easily swayed by the very vocal, but not necessarily a majority, community members.
@@thechestrockfield the only formats you listed that are segregated for power level is Vintage and Legacy (both eternal formats). cEDH is the try-hard side of EDH, that's why even if we split formats a lot of people will just refuse to change to the competitive rules.
@@BrunoAlbuquerqueBRQ Who said anything about the reason for the segregation? Regardless, take just those two, then. Why shouldn't Commander and cEDH be separated like Vintage and Legacy??
It's weird how people who claim EDH is a "casual, noncompetitive" format also constantly complain about losing games. If winning doesn't matter, why do you go out of your way to vilify and alienate the people who consistently beat you?
When I started commander on my friends' request many many years ago I looked for a budget deck and built the cheapest Talrand, Sky Summoner deck. Played 1 to 3 games against all my friends. Never lost to anyone, but I lost everyone. MtG players are 78% salt.
"it's the casuals who are mad, cEDH don't want bans. They love proxies." If you're using proxies, you're not doing official play, so just ignore the banlist and do what you want. If you're proxying, you didn't lose money due to the bans so you have nothing to complain about. Literally the only people who cannot ignore the banlist are the ones doing official play who have to use the real cards, and the only people willing to spend hundreds of dollars on a single card that gives a negligible advantage are cEDH players.
What is this nonsense? cEDH players want to follow the EDH banlist, the reason they proxy is that basically no player can afford an optimized cEDH deck. I have one cEDH deck, to buy it with real cards would cost around $4000. There are basically no official sanctioned EDH events anyway.
@@TheMattmatic I agree, it is utter nonsense. But still there are plenty of people in these comments saying that cEDH players hate bans, despite that not making any sense.
"Rock, paper, scissors... Wait, what's that?" "It's gun!" "Gun?" "Yeah, WotC printed it in Rock, Paper, Scissors Masters!"
Masters sets only have reprints. They might've printed Gun in a Legends set though (not to be confused with Legends (or Italian Legends))
@@locus_of_magic217 Actually it was in the Rock, Paper, Scissors Masters Commander Decks.
@@DawnfireGalinndan ope, you're totally right! My bad, I forgot abput the attached Commander decks lol 😅
@@locus_of_magic217it was actually in Rock Paper Scissors Horizons
Scissors may beat Paper, but Paper beats Arena, so the meta is balanced.
the only logical conclusion is to ban paper
what about Pauper?
This is a great joke.
@@mildsoupdon't even joke about this.
@@mildsoup You're a little too 2030 with this one.
“Poor Remy, so predictable. Always picks rock”.
“Ah, the good old rock. Nothing beats rock”.
"Rock, paper, scissors, match!"
"All right! Rock beats paper."
"I thought paper covered rock."
"Nah. Rock flies right through paper."
"Well what beats rock?"
"Nothing beats rock."
"All right, come on..."
::Kramer and Micky continue playing, both throwing rock every game::
Nice a simpson reference, nice!
Just wondering if all the likes know
@@LeonMigglautsch Same here.
400! What an insult! I'll have you know this is the serialized, textured, neon-ink,frame brake, glow in the dark Scissors.
It's also the "Triple-sided" version, that allows you to play the side you need, without having to go to the sideboard.
@@Kydrou it also let's you fetch from your sidebored any Scissor card - so it can fetch itself
Mine has the signature of Eduard scissorhands.
@@Kydrou Nah they developed a 4d foil as a marketing ploy. Mtg can now reach new markets in other dimensions!
"Rock, Paper, Scissors- actually before we go, if you pick rock I'll pick paper, if yoy pick paper I'll pick scissors, if you pick scissors I'll pick rock, therefore lets agree to a draw."
"Agreed."
"Agreed. Excellent. Another brilliantly played game."
True cEDH player start reading psychology book to predict opponent moves.
And searches for any counteracting abilites, free to play of course.
"SHIVAM!" 😂
Ahhhh, for a second i thought he yelled "Schiebung" which is a german word you say when you think somebody rigged the game you're playing xD i was really confused
@@doim1676 Same! I heard Schiebung and it send me
Ahh, so that's what he said. Is that someone's name?
@@doim1676 Ich auch. Und ich dachte, dass passt. Moment, kann Remy deutsch seit er bei CardMarket war?
@@doim1676 Absolutely me too! And what is SHIVAM?
Just wait till he finds out about paper... 😏😏
no one plays paper anymore, only digital.
Exactly. Need to ban BOTH Rock & Paper. Then the game just comes down to the Scissors Meta. Who cares about the people who invested time & money into learning how to throw Rock & Paper? or those who just enjoyed playing with them… it’s for the best of the game!
@@Grisu. I believe you meant to say “nobody plays Paper anymore… just Scissors” 🤔
@@seanhardner5842 no
@@Grisu. are you being serious? You know this whole thing is a parody right? I mean it’s a joke… “nobody plays paper anymore just scissors” is funny… “nobody plays paper anymore just digital” sounds like you are actually just making a statement about current happening in the world of Magic the Gathering😵💫
Hey guys, is it cool if I rule 0 in Dynamite for this game?
Works for me. Scissors cuts the fuse of dynamite.
Although Dynamite beating rock and paper seems unbalanced, scissors simply becomes more powerful.
I dont think a single cEDH asked for any ban except flash
exactly, completely unnecessary. should never have given in to terrorists. unban flash
The "Shivam!" at the end really sells it
Oh Shivam is one of the RC?
@@dzilal6148on the CAG. Great guy but very vocal about his takes
@@Xalyn937 Which is kinda part of why he was wanted on the cag in the first place.
A card specifically being created for a format doesn't make immune from power level discussion.
In all fairness, the angry guy has more in common with an angry casual pubstomper than a cEDH player
Ooop. He got you.
Not after the last week 😂
What I often see are cEDH players, when they can't find a cEDH pod, try to join a casual one with their "weak" decks which often are just fridge cEDH or still high power.
@@MCC17011hahaha yeah tbh
"Can't laugh, hits too close to home." There we go, fixed that for you.
Good old rock; nothing beats rock!
Poor Bart, always chooses rock.
John Cena did tho
Don't forget about the expansion that adds Lizard and Spock. Game changing! 🤯
One of US must stop playn Spock 😂😂
I just use cannons.
B*ches loves cannons.
One of the best skits I've seen in a long time.
I thought the joke was just going to be that playing cEDH is the equivalent of rock paper scissors given how games go
from my experience in casual and competitive EDH, way more casual players want xyz banned then cEDH players.
the only card on the current bann list that is there because of cEDH is flash but it was also very good in casual games thus they banned it. tho the competitive side has evolved so much over the last 2 years and currently flash probably would see very little play if it got unbanned.
depending on which person is supposed to represent the cEDH community it's either hilarious or a miss represents the competitive side of this great format.
There is no competitive side of commander. 2 different formats. Mana Crypt was already either banned or unbanned in Commander due to rule zero and still is just like Coalition Victory. The bannings only affected Cedh.
Cedh is the commander adjacent format where people actually have to follow the ban list.
Flash costs 2 mana to cheat in oracle then 1 mana for consultation. That's insanely more efficient than the current next best borne upon a wind which is +2 mana to this whole combo
@@explodingbarrel2mostly protean hulk but that is a line too
They banned flash despite it not being a problem in Commander specifically because the cedh people wanted it. Read the announcement. It was a travesty, it should never have happened.
@@josephpayton7522 from my experience cEDH is still EDH with the rule zero conversation "everything goes." that's all there is to it LOL
This is just a normal edh player
A cedh player knows the rc dislikes them and would not go to them for a ban
Cant wait for set of five rocks to come out in shiny foil special secret edition!
Paper beats Rock, Scissor beats paper, Scissors also happen to beats rock..... Until Rock hits 60 and becomes and unstoppable killing machine, then also beats paper, would beat scissors but it can't find scissors, because Scissors are invisible. Scissors beats paper and avoids rock and that is called balance.....
I'm so happy I'm old enough to get that reference.
@@MCC17011 I'm old enough but I still don't get it
@@BobbyRunout_ClassicalChessC It's from an old World of Warcraft video, World of Roguecraft, talking about how Warriors are rock, rogues are scissors, most other classes are paper, and warlocks are mushrooms.
@@MCC17011 haha, thanks
wait till he finds out about spock, lizard, and whatever else.
😂
Rock, paper, scissors, lizard, Spock
That is part of the universes beyond secret lair drop (I think they called it the 'Big Bang'). That's my theory anyway. If Remy does get that $400, he may* be able to afford one.
You missed the part when the guy starts issuing death threats over the banning of rock 🙃
Rock... mana rock...
"Nerf Rock! Paper is fine."
-Scissors
Remember, folks, "death threat" is not a valid play in RPS. Nor should it be anywhere else.
From the company that hired the Pinkertons to intimidate people who opened boxes early - I wouldn't be surprised if a good chunk of these death threats were sponsored by WotC to engineer the outcome of them taking over commander.
You say that, but if your opponent suddenly dies you win by default!
Neither is being a baby
True. Closest I could find was Deathbloom Thalid.
I remember when Magic players were mature enough that they wouldn't turn into Raging Goblin over a ban. It's almost as if a group of people has infiltrated and taken over Magic, and now their inherent toxicity is exposing itself.
But hey, what do I know, I'm just some guy who has been playing Magic for 30 years.
What would rock paper scissors look like if one of the moves gave you more points? Say, scissors wins you 10 times the points of the other moves. How would this shape the game? One might think that the strategy would be to never play paper, since then I would never lose to scissors. But if I never play paper, then my opponent would never play scissors. But if my opponent never plays scissors then I would have no need to ever play rock. But if I never play rock my opponent will never play paper. But if my opponent never plays paper I'll never play scissors. But if I never play scissors my opponent will never play rock. But if they don't play rock I have no need for paper. But if I don't use paper they don't need to play scissors. But if they don't scissors then I don't rock. If I don't rock they don't paper. If they don't paper I won't scissors. If I don't scissors they don't rock. If they don't rock I don't paper. And at this point we could go over this loop again. You see, although it mind sound counterintuitive, I still need to play paper in order for the game to make sense. I might do it in a mixed strategy with less frequency, but I need to play the riskiest play every once in a while to keep my opponent honest. I need to bait I'll play paper in order for them to throw scissors and I catch them with a rock.
If Remy doesn't do a "Tiny Dancer" parody using Ghostly Dancers from DSK, then I'm gonna be sad.
Its just a fine casual game that you play with friends!!
Exquisite. Always a pleasure, Remy
I understand the point but dont agree
That being said, Remy never fails to improve my day :3
I hear that in Universes Beyond, they are printing Lizard and Spock to shake up the meta.
Day 1 of asking remy to make a parody of shut up and dance with me, but as shut up and clash with me (the mechanic)
Obviously, I am sure its different at every lgs - but in my area, my experience has been the opposite. The cedh players are chill, and down to play with anything you bring. They give advice on deck building, and explain rules and concepts to newer players. Meanwhile casual players laugh at anyone they beat, bitch at anyone who wins, and wants half the format banned.
I didn’t invest in your Merch so you can spend the Money on Hand gestures! 😂
I am not disappointed though😊
RDW = Rock Deck Wins
It's more like "Casual guy plays commander and hates all cards he is losing to".
I think the point is that there's no such thing as competitive edh and winning is just as deterministic as a game of rock paper scissors.
Honestly that's why I proxy my scissors.
Did i just hear "Shivam" as in "Shivam Bhatt"?
he just wants to borrow Eastfarthing Farmer's pitchfork
Ngl, I thought he was gonna take his Mana Crypt in paper and cut it up
How can I be happy and sad at the same time
Remy doesn't miss!
thank you.. someone finally said it
so, we now know the guy who tried to add lizard-spock to needlesly complicate the game ^^
Shivam Bhatt mentioned 🔥
I just pulled a limited edition holographic japanese foil Rock!
Was it the "One Rock"?
Let's be honest, paper is really just a stopgap measure against Rock, at best.
And then they just print Rock Lobster in the next set.
Was expecting “…lizard, spock” to be added 😂
Rock has a 100% win rate against Scissors, of course it's overpowered.
Just wait til he finds out about paper
Was half expecting him to show up with an AK-47 because shoot is OP.
Just discovered your reasontv and goremy videos. You've been doing hundreds of parodies for 17 years now, and I am so glad I found them!
Warlocks... Are mushrooms.
If you know, you know.
Nobody knows, ok zoomers
In my play group Rock is banned by rule zero.
I would say good luck today against KC, but seeing as Im a Sox fan I really hope KC wins.
Remy with facial hair is wild to see.
I'm a bit confused by this one, Remy. I think you missed the mark here lol. It's usually casual players who want the bans, not cEDH players. Most cEDH players I know play with proxies, so they can continue to use the most powerful cards without it being "pay to win". Idk many cEDH players who would be jumping to pay $400 for a card lol they are out there, but not representative of the cEDH community at large, at least in my experience. Most cEDH players that I know are unhappy with the recent bans. Still love your vids, and I'll be looking forward to the next one!
The only card that was ever banned because of pressure from the community was flash. The cedh people wanted it banned.
@@Giby86 Did you start playing this week? This is so demonstrably untrue.
@@lisan3627 I started playing before Wizards started to make Commander products. What other ban happened because the community requested it?
@@Giby86 The 4 most recent bans have had a ton of the community pushing for their ban, especially Nadu. Hullbreacher and other earlier bans were all heavily called for within the community as well. I think it's rather disingenuous to say the community had no impact on these cards being banned.
@@lisan3627 No, but you miss my point entirely. Flash was LITERALLY only banned because a part of the community ASKED for it. If they hadn't, Flash would NOT have been banned, they literally said so in the announcement. This is not true for the rest of the cards.
Lol, he said “Rules Committee” 😂😂
Sizzor lizard, rock lobster and paper tiger...... any takers?
Also, $400!!!
Sheesh, that's a throwback 😂
Rules committee!
Well, this won't be good.
😅
Playing is fun. winning is funner (to some people)
Did he say "Schiebung! at the end?"
"Shivam", probably referring to Shivam Bhatt
That’s funny, ngl.
But kinda sounds more like a casual player tbh :(.
From my experience the chillest person on the table is more oftenly a cedh guy
Rock paper scissors...Dynamite! Dynamite always wins ;p
uh.... no.... it's the dorks who hypocritically complain about everyone else's decks being cedh, even while they are winning and playing more broken shit than everyone else at the table, who are the jackasses demanding bans.... not cedh players who are typically very fun to play with because they won't try to make you feel like a jerk for playing a card that you like.
That Shiwam! at the end!😂
Bwahahahaha😂
This was a good one
And then the RC does ban Rock after listening to everyone complain about it for years, only for them to send the RC death threats because their Rock has lost value.
@@matthewdykeman8149 You have it wrong. The whiners who complained to the RC to get it banned aren't the same people who are mad about lost value.
it's not the cEDH players I see complaining about cards they lose to, it's the casual tables. my typical experience was casting a couple of removal spells and opponents being grumpy for the rest of the game. i'm like what, I'm supposed to just let your commander live so you can draw your entire deck on turn 3? and they're like, well you can do your thing and i'll do my thing, stop messing with my fun. so i did, by not playing commander anymore
No not my 20 copies of Rock I have stored for the purpose of resale, they're worthless now
400€ for scissors made my day :D
I must say I don't quite understand this one. I get that you're trying to link it to the current drama, but it doesn't make any sense.
I think you’re overthinking it.
Wait is the guy in the black shirt the cEDH player? I don't follow this joke, the cEDH community famously doesn't like bans...is this about sol ring? Sol ring was a card for at least a decade before even the first commander sets.
This joke is based on misguided information that cedh had any influence on the bans.
It's about the bans of Mana Crypt, Dockside Extortionist and Jeweled Lotus. Some "fine folks" in the EDH (and cEDH) community didn't take on well to these bans and decided death threats to RC members would be an appropriate response... These last few days were dark days for the magic community...
18 years to be exact but who counts
Pretending to miss the joke because it hits too close to home is tight.
@@Giby86 wtf does tight mean?
This is the first Remy video that misses the mark, cEDH want LESS bans, not MORE!
@@BrunoAlbuquerqueBRQ triggered much?
I've never seen a single casual group that knows or follows the banlist. Video hit a little too close to home, huh?
My (largely former; I don’t play much anymore) casual group follows the banlist. Also, by god can they get salty when someone plays a card that they deem unfun. I don’t have much experience with more competitive environment, but my understanding has always been that they don’t really run into the same saltiness when someone plays stax or theft or instant win combos.
@@apurtee From what I've seen, most casual groups are all close friends. They tend to operate on a "it's not an issue until it's abused and becomes one" basis. If I saw someone pull out a mana crypt, I would laugh my ass of at them. And I would absolutely allow them to play it, and make fun of them the entire game for it.
"So is it embarrassing to explain to the bank you're mortgaging your house for a casual deck?"
"I know it's hard for you to reach your cards when your doing the backstroke in your money bin Mr Scrooge, but it's your turn."
"I'd get you back for that one, but I'm concerned your Bond-Villain-ass has a death ray hidden around here."
@@apurtee you'd be surprised. The saltiest players on the planet are the people who play Cedh, but then they "this is my casual deck!!!! Why are you playing that?!?!? That's a Cedh card!!!! If you want to play that, I'm playing my Cedh deck too!!!" the rest of the time.
The irony here is that it’s not cEDH players who cry for bans 99% of the time, it’s the Casuals. Most cEDH players actively protest bans, and they’re the ones who play against the strongest cards and combos in the format. It’s always the casuals I hear crying to ban Thassa’s Oracle, Yuriko, whatever beat them last game…
I just wanted to say that. Somehow cEDH-Players are actually fine wirh everbody playing the same staples.
I don't play magic and this wasn't as funny, but I don't see why people don't get the joke. He's making fun of casual players that spend too much money and get mad when they can't pay to win then suddenly want to change the rules.
Yes, this video would make sense if it was a jab at casual players. The title is refering to a generic competitive player, while the guy in the video is representative of (some) casual players.
sorry bout the orioles remy
I’m confused. I’m pretty sure it was the Cedh crowd that was upset that jeweled lotus was banned and the casual crowd at large that hated it.
exactly, that was after they whined about flash. cedh people are never happy and think everything revolves around them and there feelings
@ I think it’s more the normal EDH crowd to be honest. For years I as a modern player have heard so much whining from casual EDH players about how non-commander products aren’t catered to them enough from “where’s my werewolf commander! wizards! I want a generic werewolf lord rather than do problem solving with creative deckbuilding!” To “why is the new green leyline 5 WUBRG identity. Now I can’t play it in my green decks”
Not even mentioning the Nadu debacle.
cEDH players only ever asked for flash hulk and Thassa’s Oracle to be banned and that’s it.
This is how casual players behave lol
Isn't it non CEDH players that whined to the RC to ban "rock"? 🤔
it needed to go, had an infinite combo with "paper"
cedh whined about flash which didn't need to go. should never have negotiated with terrorists
Based Remy reveals that there's no such thing as competitive edh.
I dont understand, which one is the the cEDH player? The guy wearing flannel who just wants to have fun? 😂
Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
Nah, ban rock. Devs were cracked when they made it
This is not a good analogy. Funny sketch, though.
ok cedh player
but funny sketch
@@AdaWongMistress I hate cEDH; I like lower powered EDH. I just think it's not a good analogy. I did, however say that the sketch was funny. Two things can be true at once
Playing with fire XD
Accurate
that actually sounds like a " "casual" " player
thinks money == win, if opponent wins it's op
nothing like cEDH mentality
this is probably your worst take lmao we want all the broken shit 😭
flash?
Did he actually say Shivam?? 😆
Someone gets it. A lot of people have been calling for a separate ban list for cEDH, without getting that it would just make it a different format. EDH was defined by it's casual nature. And then we'd have players trying to take regular EDH to competitive levels, so we'd have cEDH, and then a c-sorta-EDH.
from what I know of cedh players they are more for a lighter banlist than a heavier one, but I am also aware of ppl who want rhystic and mystic banned so idk
But they ARE different formats, no? How is it different than the way we look at Vintage/ Legacy/ Modern/ Standard? Those are all 60 card constructed formats, but power level/ card pool keep them segregated so you know what you're getting into and should expect when you sit down. A lot of competitive formats began as casual play styles, so why should Commander be any different? Honestly, it's grown way more than any other format before it had appropriate regulation and involvement by Wizards. It's high time for some structure by people who aren't so easily swayed by the very vocal, but not necessarily a majority, community members.
@@thechestrockfield the only formats you listed that are segregated for power level is Vintage and Legacy (both eternal formats). cEDH is the try-hard side of EDH, that's why even if we split formats a lot of people will just refuse to change to the competitive rules.
This is the smartest take I've seen regarding the idea of cedh splitting.
@@BrunoAlbuquerqueBRQ Who said anything about the reason for the segregation? Regardless, take just those two, then. Why shouldn't Commander and cEDH be separated like Vintage and Legacy??
Oh no, I paid 500 dollars for rock and it just got banned T_T
SHIVAM!!!!
No mention of mushroom?
Can anyone tell what that last word he says is?
It's weird how people who claim EDH is a "casual, noncompetitive" format also constantly complain about losing games. If winning doesn't matter, why do you go out of your way to vilify and alienate the people who consistently beat you?
When I started commander on my friends' request many many years ago I looked for a budget deck and built the cheapest Talrand, Sky Summoner deck.
Played 1 to 3 games against all my friends.
Never lost to anyone, but I lost everyone.
MtG players are 78% salt.
"it's the casuals who are mad, cEDH don't want bans. They love proxies."
If you're using proxies, you're not doing official play, so just ignore the banlist and do what you want. If you're proxying, you didn't lose money due to the bans so you have nothing to complain about. Literally the only people who cannot ignore the banlist are the ones doing official play who have to use the real cards, and the only people willing to spend hundreds of dollars on a single card that gives a negligible advantage are cEDH players.
What is this nonsense? cEDH players want to follow the EDH banlist, the reason they proxy is that basically no player can afford an optimized cEDH deck. I have one cEDH deck, to buy it with real cards would cost around $4000. There are basically no official sanctioned EDH events anyway.
@@TheMattmatic I agree, it is utter nonsense. But still there are plenty of people in these comments saying that cEDH players hate bans, despite that not making any sense.
Ohne Brunnen!