Thank you for making such a useful video. I come from Hong Kong and the motorcycle test here in HK mandates the right foot on the peg the whole time. During the test, if your right foot touches ground, that's a fail. The bike is always in gear and when stop, you must check mirrors for traffic behind. This is exactly what you are teaching here. Thank you!
Hong Kong can get pretty busy, especially during rush hours. It is beautiful to ride in the mountains there, or along the coastline up to Stanley... I miss HK... say hi to ko shan theatre in hung hom for me 😁👍🏻
In Canada I learned the same as Hong Kong rules about right peg, in gear and observe. I am 5-9 and still not comfortable for a high bike, not only the flat foot, but also heavy top weight of the GS.
I almost spit my food out when you mentioned making sure "stupid behind me is going to come to stop.’" Great videos and worth recommending to others. You’re clearly good rider and a great example of being prepared: wearing protective riding jacket instead of just a cool jacket and a pair of jeans. This is what responsible and safe looks like. As a fellow rider trying to educate other newer riders, it’s good to see videos like this. Keep it up!
I'm 5'6 and have been riding like that for 30 + years. the only issue I have is when I'm carrying a passenger. if I have to suddenly stop and it throws the bike of ballance, my short legs have no chance to keep the bike upright. Then there is the time when a car in front decides to reverse, since both feet cannot comfortably reach the ground I cannot move the bike backwards and get knocked to the ground. luckily those moments are very rare. Short riders need to be more focused/aware on where they stop, making sure the road is flat, not sloping the wrong way and if you need to move the bike, you'll have to jump off and move it manually or keep it in gear and walk the bike using the bikes own power. Your videos are extremely useful, not only for inexperienced but also experienced riders. Remember the saying " everyday is a school day "
Stopping at the traffic lights is just one of many "problems" short riders have to deal with. Try go backwards when you are sitting on a bike and can't reach ground with both feet. Or park in some inclined spot, with gravel, on rainy day ;) For me - im 5.7 - riding tall motorcycle is all about strategy and thinking ahead. Looking forward to see how you deal with other "short rider" problems. I like how you explain things. Always hope to learn something new. Cheers!
True...for me, I never rely on anyone to help me...if I can do something on my own, I need to learn how to do it by myself...then if I'm with people...it'll be easier.
I'm learning to ride right now and I'm definitely struggling with being too short. I am 5'1" and I'm barely tiptoeing on my left foot when I have my right foot on the brake. My bike's seat is 31" for reference. I'm realizing how much I need to learn to balance and also that sometimes it's ok to do things differently in order to do them safely. For example, getting off the bike in order to reverse when parking rather than trying to waddle back awkwardly and risk falling over.
Everything you said is exactly what I've learned from my instructors. I also have a tall bike and can reach the ground, not always flat footed, but I just feel better with both feet down. All the while, in gear, in the friction zone, watching my rear and front brake. I do use both brakes and a steep angled stop. I practice pretty often and take every class I can, but it just doesn't feel right to me with just one foot down.
Just started watching your vids and am learning a lot and I,ve been riding for 30 years!! Well done for getting across the message in an easy to follow manner.
You think this is a joke, and it kinda is, but it's also kinda serious. More than once I've had to drop the clutch and jump out of the way of some soccer mom on her phone.
I don't know if this is a compliment or not but your videos are very intuitive and for me make a lot of sense. I'm saying this is because I'm a 59 years old man, first time riding a bike, own a Honda MSX 125A and, believe it or not, I still lack a decent road surface hold with both of my feet while stopping. BTW, I'm 5ft 3ins and weighing 209lbs, yes I know, this is one unlucky grom! Still, being an "old" newbie I say thanks Eddie!
Your videos are very helpful. I’m a new rider. I’m 5’4, my first bike is a 92 Honda Cbr 600 f2. I love the bike it’s so comfortable and everything and I do exactly what you just talked about. I always keep a foot up so I can touch the ground and I can control my bike. Thanks for the helpful videos. Keep it up
Thx so much for that, after watching I realized I had been going back and forth sometimes doing the left foot only with a slight lean and then both feet which was throwing of my balance. Will stick with the left foot from now on and see the reasons why. Kudos to the cameraman as well! Cheers from Canada!
Just practiced so much better, I also noticed by placing my left foot on the ground more on an angle then parallel to the bike it made it much more stable. Amazing how such a small thing makes such a difference!
Hi Eddie, instead of leaning the bike over when stopped I turn the handlebar just a little to the right. It just moves the bike slightly off centre and gets the weight over onto the left side. You can bring it back up easily when the lights change by truing the handlebars again. Tiny movement needed.
Just started riding, thanks for the tip about never leaving the bike in neutral and keeping it in first gear instead. I feel like I learned a lot about stopping and taking off👍
Fantastic videos. I’ve been watching and learning from your tutorials and at 70 years of age I can’t wait to go out and practise U turns etc. Never too old to learn. Many thanks for all your help. Ever thought of opening your own school for motorcycle skills? I’d definitely sign up but I’m over the pond in the UK. So it’s off to the local superstore ‘s car park for me. :-)
That 1200 weighs 2 DRZs , lol . I am 6' tall but have a short inseam and longer torso . So I have a little trouble with taller bikes so I get where you're coming from . My first motorcycle was a 2019 DR650 and I didn't ride it as often as I wanted because of my work . Really liked it but when the new Africa Twin came out I was in awe . I said boy I have to get good at this so I can graduate to one of those bikes . Then the Tenere 700 came out in Europe and Australia . It was 5 grand less but almost the dream bike that Twin was looking like . Put my 500 down on one in February 2020 . Really fun bike but I had to sell the DR . I would think the XT 250 would be a great first bike and they sell instantly when you are ready for a little more motorcycle . I probably will get a smaller displacement bike also as they are a lot of fun too !
Hey Eddie. Hope you read this, bruh. For years, I've subscribed and watched, not as a seeker of knowledge, but as an admirer of the teaching skills you impart to new generations. This is a "you're never too old to learn" story. I recalled that you made this video, so I went on a hunt to find it, because I really needed to hear your thoughts. For forty years, I've exclusively rode SuperSport. Daily, street, track days, and a circuit season a few lifetimes ago. Both feet always comfortably flat-footing (we're the same height, but I have a few more pounds now). Very recently, I sold all three SS's and switched to a '22 GSA. Factory standard. The transition has been far from a nothing-burger. Decades of embedded muscle memory has me trying to tiptoe on both feet at every stop. Add to that an over-reliance on Hill Start Control meant almost never touching the right brake. A couple weeks ago, at a stop sign in "Nowheresville," with ideal conditions, after a complete stop, I dropped that new bike. I've laid down my share of bikes on the track and off-road, but luckily never (EVER) on the street. It shook a lifetime of fearless confidence. Some may read this and roll their eyes, but rewiring my brain has not been a easy. You've offered a tight methodology and I'm not ashamed to say that this advanced rider is now out everyday practicing this technique in a parking lot. As I know you'll ask, I've turned HSC off. Thanks, bruh. Owe you a large brewski, with an old school preference to someday share it in-person. 🤙
Another great instructional video which is really relevant to me, I’m 5,8” and have the triumph tiger xc, sometimes just getting a pointer like this can make all the difference. Thanks Eddie ✌️
Absolutely the correct way to handle stopping and sitting. The other thing (I don't know if you mentioned it here) about the use of the rear brake, is that doing so, unloads the front suspension, and allows you to steer and maneuver the position of the bike, especially in those last few seconds before it completely stops. It also makes the bike stop "flat" instead of stacking the bike up onto the front forks, which again makes the steering stiff/weird and can cause you do drop the bike as you come to a stop. Like coming down a driveway ramp, as you slow to check for traffic, around a row of parked cars. Drag rear brake, and she'll settle down and be steerable. Use the front brake, and she stacks up on the front end, and bam, down she goes. Great video. I'm not a fan of your sling-shot through the intersection technique, but what you do here, when taking off, I like. IMO...and again, it's just my opinion, sling shotting through intersections, as the first one in, raises the risk of getting hit broadside, by the asshat in the prius who just blew a 3 second old red light. Needless to say, I don't lane split at intersections (usually), and I'm never the first one out into them! But I get why you do it. I'm in SoCal too, just for reference. Riding a bone stock, all original, 1986 Ninja 600R in red, white, and blue! Old school! Great job on all your vids. I need to learn better cornering technique, and I really appreciate your help. Seriously. Not looking to be a knee dragger, because I don't want to risk this bike, but I do want to improve my skillset!
Such insightful tips!! Thank you!! You're on the right track and that's an awesome bike!! Yes, intersections are tricky and each time I do it, is different from the last.
Another excellent down to earth tutorial video! I love the way you show alternative ways to do things that gives various riders of different stature and skills options in order that they can get better.
Hi. Thanks for this. Scanned the comments below to see if the following issue was raised. Seems not. When I was riding (had to stop but am planning on restarting) I actually did what you recommend in this video + of course looking very carefully before setting the foot down (learnt that when I rested my left foot on a wet leaf that slid an inch or two and scared me!). THE ISSUE. I am 5 feet 7 and had a 1150 GS and had the most problem on sideways inclined stops that were uphill (even the downhill ones were a problem but less so). Lot of weight on the leg when the drop was lower on the left. Had to put the right foot down then. Never did feel very comfortable. Thoughts / suggestions would be welcome.
Hi! Keep the bike upright...it balances with no effort...I slide off the seat a little bit to where my left foot is on the ground but it's not leaned so much to the left where it's difficult...just enough to keep it upright :)
Good on you. Will keep this in mind - and practice it when I do (if) get riding again.BTW I totally buy what you say about practice. One of the practice sessions that we used to do that I found very useful was for hard braking on the straight. Takes getting used to the ABS feeling and continuing to brake hard while keeping control of the bike but gives a lot of confidence since you know what to expect. Thanks again.
Hey, Eddie. Thanks for your videos. That is exactly what I was taught here, in the U.K. Right foot always on rear brake and already in first gear. Keep on videos coming. All the best!
Thank you for this video as i 5ft1 lady new to riding i have stuggled alot. I barely get half a toe down on my cbr300 after it has been lowered 2inches and i live on a hill. I feel brave enough now to try and get out!
After watching about 40 of your videos, I finally got to one where I already knew most of what you went over. Real ego boost for me. The short videos are great. You give a chunk of info and demo and done. Ironically, I'm a tall rider, but TH-cam suggested it, so... Really most of your advice in this one - back brake, left foot down, 1st gear, apply to any rider stoped at a light or intersection. When I took the safety class (about 15 years ago) one of the instructors was OBSESSED with "only one foot down" and "get that foot up the moment the bike starts moving". It stuck.
Excellent tips. As a new rider I've found myself instinctually doing exactly that : left foot down with a slight lean so I can get my foot flat. Always in gear. I haven't had any passengers yet: do you think the added weight of a pillion would affect the slight lean left. ?
Yes! With a passenger...I wouldn't lean it too much to the left...but same concept...I don't put my right foot down, even when a passenger is on. That's assuming they're not moving!
Hi Eddie, I am practicing all of your tips and I can already see the difference. Although I get 30 years of practice, still can't do some of the things you teach. So big thanks for these lessons, you rock man! I am a short (not too short) rider of 1.70 cm. I am sorry I'm Italian and not very familiar with inches. I own a Suzuki Vstrom 650 and can easily touch the ground with both feet but not flat. So I am practicing on single flat and stable foot on the ground and it works much better. Thank you for sharing your skills Max
WHAT A GREAT ADVICE, THANKS FOR SHARING THE KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR EXPWRIENCE GREG, I JUST BOGHT MY FIRST ADVENTURE BIKE AND IT'S A BIT TALL. I HAVE TO START PRACTICING THIS TECNIQUE.
I taught car driving for a long time and Im also a long time motorcycle rider, 67 now and still ride a vstrom, I would have to disagree with you. even the most experienced person can get caught out a stop light and so if you are in gear on a manual bike or car the situation can be worse if you get a shunt from the rear. The first thing that will happen is your feet will come off the pedals in a car and your hands on a motorcycle, Im not saying your rear brake take off is the best way,I do both. When i was teaching I always impressed the use of rear view mirrors and an escape route, cheers I love your videos great for new and veteran riders.
I'm a newish rider in the UK getting hints and tips where I can. Lucky for us in the UK our foot goes down on the kerb side and not in the path of a motor too close.
Could you make a video on how to safely handle low traction enviroments? For example: What to do if you get into some gravel in the twisties or how to ride over slick metal surfaces (steel plates or sewer covers) when raining?
Alexis Robles I made a video about street riding where I mention rain, gravel, animals, etc! I believe it’s called Street Riding or Abort from a corner or something lol
I’ll be the first to admins that I am guilty of being in neutral at a known long traffic light and a car stopped behind me to stretch out my hands and legs... I remember being taught to lower my right foot so that I can have a foot ready to engage gear when the situation presents itself. It’s been a while since I made the switch to my left foot down, but I’m with you - rear brake holds you on a hill and allows for a smooth stop (front and rear).
In the UK we drive on the left so your left foot is lower due to the camber of the road which is sometimes severe. This can be a serious problem for shorter riders particularly on roads with loose gravel of potholes.
This is what I was thinking. I'm in Australia. I have stopped at a road Junction which sloped down to my left. I put my left foot down and had a real panic because the bike nearly fell over. The lean to the left was almost too much for me. I now keep the slope in mind. Sometimes I have to put my right foot down as the distance to the ground on the left is too much.
Hi there Moto Jitsu, thank you so much for this demonstration, I will put all these tips to my riding,I also feel a lot more comfortable keeping my motorbike in gear,I've started going round my block & I'm getting better,thanks to your Excellent teachings, thank you friend for your time & teachings & Happy Riding friend 🙂🙂🙂
Ur videp makes so much sense for a newbie like me getting a yamaha mt 15 whereby im only 5'3. I was having the fear on my foot and balancing the bike when i hit the stop lights... i will try to follow ur steps as much as i can and keep practicing it when i get my bike real soon
There is nothing wrong on your explanation, I really like it.. But imagine i.e. being a delivery guy on a day shift in a city with hundreds of intersections with lights. In Czech Republic we have a yellow signal between the red and green, so you have an extra time to prepare for a takeoff (shift to first).. I never hold the clutch, always go to neutral from second just before the stop (on lights), so my hand can rest on the handlebar, not having to press the clutch at all. I usually stand both feet, or I change the legs as I wish, or as per the situation. There could be a deep puddle, or a hole, or some oil or whatever.. So we even teach riders to stop and go, changing the legs (its a part of compulsory exam to get the license). And actually it´s required to put your feet back onto the pegs, takin the leg off the peg at the moment the bike stops (if you drag it, it might be a fail).. :)
I just lowered my (GS1200) seat and also removed some of the foam on either side and can put both feet flat on the ground. I offroad and ride lots of bad South American roads and being able to put both feet on the ground is very, very important for me
A serious question for anyone to answer. Can't always put my left foot down because roads here camber or slope left and makes the ground for a left foot so, so hard to reach that the bike feels like it's going down. So why shouldn't I use my right foot or both at times. Isn't it about assessing the situation?
@@MotoJitsu Well that's what I thought but 90% of making these videos say almost never if ever at all should you put your right foot down. So I guess the answer is to go with my instinct and by my assessment of the situation ahead. Thank you for your all so brief reply.
I’d forgotten about letting off the front brake and using the rear over the winter since my test last year. Thank you for the reminder. I have a Vfr800fi and like the look of the upright riding position of the gs but was put off by the size. I reckon I can give my 30” inside leg a throw over one now. :)
Im 168cm without shoes (5.5 ~ 5.6?) just perfectly flat footed on ninja 250 but tiptoeing on ninja 300. When I check the seat height info online theyre only 0.05mm different. Strange...
lol @ green light..im 5.7 and by necessity this is exactly how ive adapted to my fjr1300. i see so many people pull up next to me neutral, arms folded, no cars behind them and think u arent a safe rider. u may be fast in corner but, MCing is so much more than taking a corner fast...Heres an idea for a vid if u havent done it already. Golden roadcraft tips. #1 Riding through a built up area, there a bus in a stopped lane ahead watch for stupid peds crossing in front of it by looking in front of buses front tyre. you will see them before they stick their nose out. same applies to cars moving out of side streets, watch wheels.
Pretty much the same thing...and just practice and see what works best for you. Literally mount, start up, go 20ft, dismount, and repeat. Do that for a hour, no kidding. You'll be good!
5' 4" went to buy a V-Strom 650 today but it was a newer model, high seat, about 500lbs. It was the weight that killed it. Saw a CB500F posted just minutes after getting home and took off to buy it. Amazing bike. You may be able to work around the seat height but those BMWs are so heavy!!
Works a treat unless the road cambers away to the left then has to be right foot down. Learned the hard way on a tall bike and now practicing right foot down on an incline. Great video as always. 👍
Thank you. I am a new rider and I’m 5’10 with a little over a 33in seat and I was having immense frustration due to dropping the bike. I wish I would’ve heard these tips sooner. Omw to go try them!
You still drop your bike at 5'10? I thought only short riders do that like me, 5'6 and I drop my bike because I came to a red light, the road was slanted down and I started tippy toe, and lost my balance.
I am 5.3 or 5.4 maybe on stock height Gixxer 750 L5. I do exactly what you showed. I almost never put right foot down on stops/stop lights simply because I need to lean bike to the left a little bit almost all the time on stops. I have to do a lot of thinking ahead before everything, stopping, parking, putting bike in the garage, getting it out etc.
I am forced to put the bike in neutral at stoplights simply because I can be stopped for 5 minutes. Keeping the clutch disengaged for 5 mins at several intersections can give my left hand a cramp.
So that's worth your safety? A little discomfort? Do as you wish..but if a car comes up and isn't stopping, good luck trying to get that thing into 1st gear quickly to take off.
A little perspective is needed here. Intersections with stop lights at my part of the world are dense. 20 cars and 20 small motorcycles around you. Bumper to bumper, or fender to fender. Not to mention dead stop while in traffic. Just the realities we riders have to deal with in the cities.
At 5’10 I don’t really consider myself short. I think people put too much emphasis on a riders height when talking about these issues, when the consideration should be on your inseam. With a 30 inch inseam, I’m at a disadvantage with tall motorcycles. I’ve seen riders who are 3-4 inches shorter than me but have much longer legs and are therefore more comfortable on the taller bikes than I might be. Ones height isn’t much of a factor.
I’m 6’5 and have just started riding. Would be interested to see a similar video for tall riders, as there is hardly anything online or on youtube. Especially when you’re not into large adventure bikes or big Harleys, like me. I bought a Triumph Bonneville T120, as it’s one of the few bikes with a comfortable riding position.
Apart from shifting my body off centre I did that when I had a go on bigger, driving school school bikes. I was OK on a flat ground, although I struggled a bit even then but there are many very steep hills in the area , with traffic lights bang in the middle. (My 125cc old cruiser couldn't make two of them from a standstill; I had to push the bike to the side and take a different route or push the bike all the way up if I had no choice!) I nearly fell over in such a spot with 500 cc and 600 cc bikes because I didn't have enough strength to push the bike upright. It was only the fear of getting that bike on top of me and the honking cars that gave me the strength, just, to get going. The ball of my left foot also gives me trouble sometimes, since I broke it using it as a brake (during an accident when the brakes were damaged) I want to do a riding test next year (basic driving licence) in UK, but I am terrified of those stops, there are rather lot of them, although otherwise I was fine once I got used to the clutch (finding the biting point). I won't be able to practice riding on a bigger bike than 125 cc without a licence, or even with my own vehicle (Grom) as there are no empty car parks around here - all I do is daily commute on low speed - I've managed to get a top speed on quiet road to just over 42 mph and no junctions. Now, when do get my paws on a bigger bike, it will be with a riding school. Lessons are expensive of course so I cannot practice that much. Do you have any tips how to push a bike upright after hill stop so I can make the most of my time at riding school? (The teachers are nice but sometimes I don't understand straight away what they mean.)
I'm 5'5, ride an R6. I also learned to ride on a dirt bike which was probably hilarious to watch. For "shorter" folks, these type of techniques are just a part of riding ALMOST any supersport or adv bike that's not under 300cc unless it's a cruiser or a bobber, etc. These are helpful tips, especially for those interested in a bike who's seat height may be an initial concern. Oh! And never skip leg day!
I never knew that! So leave it on first gear with the rear brake on when you stop. The last time I rode a motorcycle was with my Honda CB35O in 1976, when I collided with a vehicle making a left turn in front of me.
Thanks for this video!!! An all the others! My main problem is being short (5,7' - 170cm), with tip-toes when try to place both on the ground, with an heavy bike and pillion, how to stop in the best way on place that have asymmetrical ground... Imagine for instance a downhill stop with a certain angle, with more inclination on the left and with the need to turn after the stop about 45 degrees right... And now the opposite with the stop not flat but with more inclination on the right... How you suggest to manage it? Thanks!!!
Could you do a video or two on options for short riders to help with getting to or close to flat footing? For example large sole shoes or boots and examples, shaved seats pros and cons and why lowering a bike should never be an option.
"So I'm 5'9" on the 1200 GS.." Thank you Greg, you just quelled all my worries! I really like the idea of getting an ADV, but I was thinking my height (also 5'9") might be an issue- You've proved to me that it simply isn't! ..and you mentioning never being in neutral at a stop light makes perfect sense - one foot on the ground is all you ever need! Thank you Fast Eddie mk2!
@@MotoJitsu Greg, thank you again for all your videos- I hope you realise you've probably saved a lot of lives with your knowledge - one thing that always gets my blood pumping and hair raised is negative camber corners, would you consider doing a video on negative camber corner technique?
When I come to a stop I try and aim my wheels towards the divots in the road made by car tires. It creates an elevated spot to the right and the left of the bike that makes it easier to reach the ground.
That's fine on even surfaces. The problem will arise on uneven ground when you lose balance. Modern machines also tend to have a higher centre of gravity adding to the problem for short legs. My advice..lower the seat or get a smaller machine.
What do you do when you need to back the bike up...say when you are about to park or need to back out from a parking position? do you straddle the bike and back up or do you walk the bike backwards?
A few years ago I had a go on a 500cc and 600 cc bikes. I could hardly put toes on one foot down and had a problem pushing the bike upright when taking off on flat ground (without having enough leverage): had I put my foot flat on the ground the other one would not have reached the peg! So when I had to stop at hill with a the road sloping towards left... It was sheer luck I didn't fall over (and down the hill) with the bike on top of me! I was terrified of the thought of trying for a full (A) driving licence and kept looking for advice on what to do for nearly three years. I haven't tried the advice here, but it surely needs quitw a bit of practice to start driving with bum off the seat and feet off the pegs. Luckily more shorties had attended the bike school, so they decided to lower the suspension of one of the 670cc bikes (Yamaha MT07) and got a 500cc cruiser as well (Honda Rebel). I had a go on Sinnis Hoodlam as well, another cruiser. While I was taking lessons I was driving 125cc bike (Honda YBR), which is a standard bike like MT7. It was great to be able to be able to learn on different bikes. I did my test on the Yamaha bike but I am convinced I am a cruiser girl at heart. The downside when driving a bike with low, or lowered, bike is that you have to be so much more careful when going over speed humps and uneven surface; I cannot see myself driving on a footpath through a field or anything else gentle off road short cut like I used to with my first two bikes. Even the lower chassis of Grom makes me doubt if I would attempt it, although it is otherwise great: a lightweight bike doesn't sink into mud so readily and the bike is easy to pick up, even by someone like me, if you fall.
Man you can lower a sport bike some but if you lower a bike like he has, you pretty much lose the advantages of having a bike like his! I am short too about 5’ 7” and I ride a goldwing, it can be done!
@@normandegeorge6526 i'm about 5'8 and i ride a Triumph Tiger 1200! The only thing is you have to pay attention every time you're going to stop the bike! Always look where you going to put your feet!
I am going to try this. I am 5'2" and my g650gs is so heavy I am going g to try the tripod method you suggested. That k you so much Eddie! I love all of your videos. 🙂🙂🙂
Super tips! Exactly what I’m doing. Been driving a BWW R1200GSA for 6 years now after been told I was too short for these kind of bikes. F*** them !!!!!
Just got my first bike, CB 500x. I’m a petite new rider. I feel like I’m on a giraffe lol. This makes so much sense. I’m going to get the seat shaved bc I can barely touch tip toes. Hopefully I can get it to where I’m comfortable bc I love this bike.
not only the height of the bike but more like the weight, doesn't matter if you can half foot the thing if the bike itself is too heavy to handle, expecially in the low speed manouvers
Hi Eddie. Loving your video’s, very useful and I’ve been riding for forty years. We’ve Just got a new GS and finding it a bit tricky at low speed with pillion and loaded. Any tips on low speed manoeuvring when two up and loaded?
I have a 650gs sertao which is taller bike and I have to half cheek it with my right foot on the rear brake and left foot down same as you, but on uneven ground gets fatiguing and hard to balance after a while.
Boy do i feel dumb...your point about not being in neutral and being ready is something i should have already thought of and could save your life!!! I will always be ready now. Thanks for the eye opener!!!!!
Thanks for the advice it is great. you look pretty tall anyway. jus wondering have you ever come to a stop where the left foot is on the low side. , like way too low, then you need another plan. id be interested to know how you do it . i swing the right foot out and use front brake but this is trickier, than the left foot and rear brake combination you recommend. Im 5'4" and ride a std f800s, its tall, and i have dropped it at stop. carrying luggage really complicates things , For example try riding onto a transport ship up loading ramps over slippery metal plates when you cant touch the ground and have full luggage and have to stop every few bike lengths with cross winds/ . not fun My system is very much like yours. i keep chain tension on at all times ( by clutching ) even when coming to a stop i really try to look ahead to where i can stop on flat surfaces . That's where i have ben caught say when another rider takes off and suddenly stops and i cant touch where im forced to stop without planning. .i am considering lowered suspension, but for me the bike is 100% fine once moving so im not keen to compromise handling. especially in the dirt . i would certainly like to know how others have gone with this process,. im really surprised there are a lot of lowering kits but very little in the way of reviews on what they do to the bike.
Two questions arise in my mind for you : - Having the bike "always" in first gear on the traffic lights, doesn't that shorten the 'live" of your clutch? - What about if you have a person riding with a passenger/pillion? Does it works the same way? one for on the ground too?
Hi Eddie, thanks for all of the videos you upload. They've really been very helpful. Do moderns clutches "burn"? It's one of the reasons I (one some other people I know) put neutral at stoplights.
It's a dumb idea to put the bike in neutral at stop lights...I'm always in 1st ready to go in case something happens. Saved me many times already. MotoJitsu.com/com for my new app, books, merch, etc.
It's a wet clutch, running in oil. It is not going to "burn" unless you are reving and dropping to clutch to do wheelies all the time. A few Ducati's have dry clutch - but if you think about it, cars with stickshift have dry clutch and they are moving a lot more weight from a stop light then a Ducati. It's not an issue.
Anyone know tips for turning right from a stop with short legs? I dropped my bike the other day because I could not switch feet fast enough. I also braked with the wheel was turned. So it was mostly my bad.
You stop light example is spot on. Once I was stopped at a light and next thing I knew my bike was moving forward. I had the rear brake on and I stepped on it harder along with the front brake. Still moving forward slowly. I saw the reflection on the mirror and a car was on my ass. The driver (half stupid) was inching forward as they were searching for something on the passenger seat and pushing me into the intersection. So I took off, the coast was clear fortunately.
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Exactly what the riding instructors teach in Singapore. However, I still right foot down and neutral when I ride on my own as holding the clutch lever can be tiring.
Great vid, thanks Eddie. The only time I have to put my right foot down is on an extreme left sloping camber (NZ rider here so we ride on the left), otherwise with short legs, I will arse over...and I have. Not pretty. That flashing headlight - is it relative to your particular bike or available for all bikes? Cheers.
Ahhhh yes...there are some circumstances where I do put my right foot down but very rare. The flashing light isn't actually flashing..it's just the frequency of the light beam and my iPhone recording it!
And if for whatever reason...a gust of wind pushes you right...then you have to shift your weight to the right and now at least two things are working against you: your weight and the momentum of the bike. That just might be enough to make the bike topple. Not pretty. Liter bikes are heavy, I want to keep mine balanced at a stop. I can't get my feet completely flat on the ground, but I can confidently back up with both feet if I need to on a good surface. 5'7' on a 32" tall 2003 Yamaha YZF-R1. Everything is working against you on two wheels. 😟
I’m 50% midget on my moms side. Any tips of how us vertically challenged riders can get started. I usually use a ream of 3-4 midgets to hold up the bike and push it. Then jump in the saddle bags to be ready for the next stop light.
❓ Question for all the 'right foot on the peg all the time' proponents: how do get the side stand down (and up) ? I must be missing really something really obvious.... .
Hi from a newbie Eddie, thank you so much for all your work and useful information, I've learned so much from you. I have a question as regards taking off into a sharp right from a stop. I guess from this video you're answer will be 'yes' but I'll ask anyway. So you keep your right foot up and on the pedal even to perform a sharp right turn from a stop situation?
Meh, I ride in Rome, Italy right now and I pretty much just always filter up to the front and in front of stopped cars. Once there, I put in neutral and relax, safe in the knowledge that the cars behind me are already stopped. If I happen to be the first vehicle, with no stopped cars behind me, you’re GD right I keep it in first and watch the mirrors for that car coming up behind me.
thanks for this video, im at the level of having a smaller (in height) motorcycle to build my confidence, but do like the appeal of something like a GS or similar.
I'm 65 and 5'6", had to learn this style from day one and have done it this way since 1971.
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Thank you for making such a useful video. I come from Hong Kong and the motorcycle test here in HK mandates the right foot on the peg the whole time. During the test, if your right foot touches ground, that's a fail. The bike is always in gear and when stop, you must check mirrors for traffic behind. This is exactly what you are teaching here. Thank you!
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Hong Kong can get pretty busy, especially during rush hours. It is beautiful to ride in the mountains there, or along the coastline up to Stanley... I miss HK... say hi to ko shan theatre in hung hom for me 😁👍🏻
In Canada I learned the same as Hong Kong rules about right peg, in gear and observe. I am 5-9 and still not comfortable for a high bike, not only the flat foot, but also heavy top weight of the GS.
Yeah same as Singapore, right foot on the peg all the time , during test right foot touch the ground it's immediate fail
I almost spit my food out when you mentioned making sure "stupid behind me is going to come to stop.’" Great videos and worth recommending to others. You’re clearly good rider and a great example of being prepared: wearing protective riding jacket instead of just a cool jacket and a pair of jeans. This is what responsible and safe looks like. As a fellow rider trying to educate other newer riders, it’s good to see videos like this. Keep it up!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!
I'm 5'6 and have been riding like that for 30 + years. the only issue I have is when I'm carrying a passenger. if I have to suddenly stop and it throws the bike of ballance, my short legs have no chance to keep the bike upright. Then there is the time when a car in front decides to reverse, since both feet cannot comfortably reach the ground I cannot move the bike backwards and get knocked to the ground.
luckily those moments are very rare.
Short riders need to be more focused/aware on where they stop, making sure the road is flat, not sloping the wrong way and if you need to move the bike, you'll have to jump off and move it manually or keep it in gear and walk the bike using the bikes own power.
Your videos are extremely useful, not only for inexperienced but also experienced riders. Remember the saying " everyday is a school day "
one foot down is all you need
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Stopping at the traffic lights is just one of many "problems" short riders have to deal with. Try go backwards when you are sitting on a bike and can't reach ground with both feet. Or park in some inclined spot, with gravel, on rainy day ;)
For me - im 5.7 - riding tall motorcycle is all about strategy and thinking ahead.
Looking forward to see how you deal with other "short rider" problems. I like how you explain things. Always hope to learn something new.
Cheers!
Awesome!! Yes if you're on an incline or in gravel...I would make a different choice and not park in that place.
Simplest solution - but not always possible on a trip. Solution no. 2 - go with friends - they will help you :D
True...for me, I never rely on anyone to help me...if I can do something on my own, I need to learn how to do it by myself...then if I'm with people...it'll be easier.
I'm learning to ride right now and I'm definitely struggling with being too short. I am 5'1" and I'm barely tiptoeing on my left foot when I have my right foot on the brake. My bike's seat is 31" for reference. I'm realizing how much I need to learn to balance and also that sometimes it's ok to do things differently in order to do them safely. For example, getting off the bike in order to reverse when parking rather than trying to waddle back awkwardly and risk falling over.
I'm 5' 3" and ride 2004 cbr600rr.
I have height increase shoe insoles in my boots. That made it a little easier. Still wish I was taller 😂
Everything you said is exactly what I've learned from my instructors. I also have a tall bike and can reach the ground, not always flat footed, but I just feel better with both feet down. All the while, in gear, in the friction zone, watching my rear and front brake. I do use both brakes and a steep angled stop. I practice pretty often and take every class I can, but it just doesn't feel right to me with just one foot down.
Everyone's different but this works best for me!
Just started watching your vids and am learning a lot and I,ve been riding for 30 years!! Well done for getting across the message in an easy to follow manner.
Dave Stafford Thank you so much! Share with others! Maybe more can benefit too!
Checking the mirrors to see if stupid behind me is actually gonna stop ha hahaa 😋
I always love your humour as much as your tips, nice one.
lol thanks!
You think this is a joke, and it kinda is, but it's also kinda serious. More than once I've had to drop the clutch and jump out of the way of some soccer mom on her phone.
I don't know if this is a compliment or not but your videos are very intuitive and for me make a lot of sense. I'm saying this is because I'm a 59 years old man, first time riding a bike, own a Honda MSX 125A and, believe it or not, I still lack a decent road surface hold with both of my feet while stopping. BTW, I'm 5ft 3ins and weighing 209lbs, yes I know, this is one unlucky grom! Still, being an "old" newbie I say thanks Eddie!
You're very welcome Joseph!
Your videos are very helpful. I’m a new rider. I’m 5’4, my first bike is a 92 Honda Cbr 600 f2. I love the bike it’s so comfortable and everything and I do exactly what you just talked about. I always keep a foot up so I can touch the ground and I can control my bike. Thanks for the helpful videos. Keep it up
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Thx so much for that, after watching I realized I had been going back and forth sometimes doing the left foot only with a slight lean and then both feet which was throwing of my balance. Will stick with the left foot from now on and see the reasons why. Kudos to the cameraman as well! Cheers from Canada!
Thanks!! Try it out!
Just practiced so much better, I also noticed by placing my left foot on the ground more on an angle then parallel to the bike it made it much more stable. Amazing how such a small thing makes such a difference!
That's great! I'm glad the video has helped you!
Hi Eddie, instead of leaning the bike over when stopped I turn the handlebar just a little to the right. It just moves the bike slightly off centre and gets the weight over onto the left side. You can bring it back up easily when the lights change by truing the handlebars again. Tiny movement needed.
Mark Stewart yes there’s many ways to help shorter riders :)
Just started riding, thanks for the tip about never leaving the bike in neutral and keeping it in first gear instead. I feel like I learned a lot about stopping and taking off👍
Awesome Jay!!
Fantastic videos. I’ve been watching and learning from your tutorials and at 70 years of age I can’t wait to go out and practise U turns etc. Never too old to learn. Many thanks for all your help. Ever thought of opening your own school for motorcycle skills? I’d definitely sign up but I’m over the pond in the UK. So it’s off to the local superstore ‘s car park for me. :-)
I want to open my own track one day and bring people there to practice! Yes!!! Car parks are so much fun!
I'm almost 6 foot 2 and I'm still watching this. I really want a DR-Z but that seat height worries me a bit as a newer rider.
I'm 5'9" and never had an issue with the DR-Z
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That 1200 weighs 2 DRZs , lol . I am 6' tall but have a short inseam and longer torso . So I have a little trouble with taller bikes so I get where you're coming from .
My first motorcycle was a 2019 DR650 and I didn't ride it as often as I wanted because of my work . Really liked it but when the new Africa Twin came out I was in awe . I said boy I have to get good at this so I can graduate to one of those bikes . Then the Tenere 700 came out in Europe and Australia . It was 5 grand less but almost the dream bike that Twin was looking like . Put my 500 down on one in February 2020 . Really fun bike but I had to sell the DR .
I would think the XT 250 would be a great first bike and they sell instantly when you are ready for a little more motorcycle . I probably will get a smaller displacement bike also as they are a lot of fun too !
Haa ..I ride ktm ..I m 5"4. ..u r my dream 6"2
I just bought a DR-Z and it’s darn tall (I have a 30in inseam). It’s very narrow too - but slipping one cheek off works :)
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I think the sliding cheek method is on page 31 of the DRZ owner's manual , lol .
Hey Eddie.
Hope you read this, bruh. For years, I've subscribed and watched, not as a seeker of knowledge, but as an admirer of the teaching skills you impart to new generations. This is a "you're never too old to learn" story. I recalled that you made this video, so I went on a hunt to find it, because I really needed to hear your thoughts. For forty years, I've exclusively rode SuperSport. Daily, street, track days, and a circuit season a few lifetimes ago. Both feet always comfortably flat-footing (we're the same height, but I have a few more pounds now). Very recently, I sold all three SS's and switched to a '22 GSA. Factory standard. The transition has been far from a nothing-burger. Decades of embedded muscle memory has me trying to tiptoe on both feet at every stop. Add to that an over-reliance on Hill Start Control meant almost never touching the right brake. A couple weeks ago, at a stop sign in "Nowheresville," with ideal conditions, after a complete stop, I dropped that new bike. I've laid down my share of bikes on the track and off-road, but luckily never (EVER) on the street. It shook a lifetime of fearless confidence. Some may read this and roll their eyes, but rewiring my brain has not been a easy. You've offered a tight methodology and I'm not ashamed to say that this advanced rider is now out everyday practicing this technique in a parking lot. As I know you'll ask, I've turned HSC off.
Thanks, bruh. Owe you a large brewski, with an old school preference to someday share it in-person. 🤙
Cool bud, thanks for the advise. I naturally do this already but I'm getting a heavier bike so glad this system works 👍
No problem 👍
Another great instructional video which is really relevant to me, I’m 5,8” and have the triumph tiger xc, sometimes just getting a pointer like this can make all the difference. Thanks Eddie ✌️
Awesome!! You're very welcome!
Absolutely the correct way to handle stopping and sitting. The other thing (I don't know if you mentioned it here) about the use of the rear brake, is that doing so, unloads the front suspension, and allows you to steer and maneuver the position of the bike, especially in those last few seconds before it completely stops. It also makes the bike stop "flat" instead of stacking the bike up onto the front forks, which again makes the steering stiff/weird and can cause you do drop the bike as you come to a stop. Like coming down a driveway ramp, as you slow to check for traffic, around a row of parked cars. Drag rear brake, and she'll settle down and be steerable. Use the front brake, and she stacks up on the front end, and bam, down she goes. Great video. I'm not a fan of your sling-shot through the intersection technique, but what you do here, when taking off, I like. IMO...and again, it's just my opinion, sling shotting through intersections, as the first one in, raises the risk of getting hit broadside, by the asshat in the prius who just blew a 3 second old red light. Needless to say, I don't lane split at intersections (usually), and I'm never the first one out into them! But I get why you do it. I'm in SoCal too, just for reference. Riding a bone stock, all original, 1986 Ninja 600R in red, white, and blue! Old school! Great job on all your vids. I need to learn better cornering technique, and I really appreciate your help. Seriously. Not looking to be a knee dragger, because I don't want to risk this bike, but I do want to improve my skillset!
Such insightful tips!! Thank you!! You're on the right track and that's an awesome bike!! Yes, intersections are tricky and each time I do it, is different from the last.
Since learning how to stop with the rear brake, my life has been better, I swear I feared stoping uphill, now I know what to do thanks to you.
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Another excellent down to earth tutorial video! I love the way you show alternative ways to do things that gives various riders of different stature and skills options in order that they can get better.
thanks!
Hi. Thanks for this. Scanned the comments below to see if the following issue was raised. Seems not. When I was riding (had to stop but am planning on restarting) I actually did what you recommend in this video + of course looking very carefully before setting the foot down (learnt that when I rested my left foot on a wet leaf that slid an inch or two and scared me!). THE ISSUE. I am 5 feet 7 and had a 1150 GS and had the most problem on sideways inclined stops that were uphill (even the downhill ones were a problem but less so). Lot of weight on the leg when the drop was lower on the left. Had to put the right foot down then. Never did feel very comfortable. Thoughts / suggestions would be welcome.
Hi! Keep the bike upright...it balances with no effort...I slide off the seat a little bit to where my left foot is on the ground but it's not leaned so much to the left where it's difficult...just enough to keep it upright :)
Good on you. Will keep this in mind - and practice it when I do (if) get riding again.BTW I totally buy what you say about practice. One of the practice sessions that we used to do that I found very useful was for hard braking on the straight. Takes getting used to the ABS feeling and continuing to brake hard while keeping control of the bike but gives a lot of confidence since you know what to expect. Thanks again.
You're welcome!! And yes, practice is the key element most people are lacking!
Makes sense. No need to engage neutral gear even during parking to ensure the motorcycle does not move. Will follow the tip from now on. Tq Eddie.
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Hey, Eddie. Thanks for your videos. That is exactly what I was taught here, in the U.K. Right foot always on rear brake and already in first gear. Keep on videos coming. All the best!
You're very welcome!!
Thank you for this video as i 5ft1 lady new to riding i have stuggled alot. I barely get half a toe down on my cbr300 after it has been lowered 2inches and i live on a hill. I feel brave enough now to try and get out!
You're welcome!
After watching about 40 of your videos, I finally got to one where I already knew most of what you went over. Real ego boost for me. The short videos are great. You give a chunk of info and demo and done. Ironically, I'm a tall rider, but TH-cam suggested it, so...
Really most of your advice in this one - back brake, left foot down, 1st gear, apply to any rider stoped at a light or intersection.
When I took the safety class (about 15 years ago) one of the instructors was OBSESSED with "only one foot down" and "get that foot up the moment the bike starts moving". It stuck.
Yes!
Excellent tips.
As a new rider I've found myself instinctually doing exactly that : left foot down with a slight lean so I can get my foot flat. Always in gear.
I haven't had any passengers yet: do you think the added weight of a pillion would affect the slight lean left. ?
Yes! With a passenger...I wouldn't lean it too much to the left...but same concept...I don't put my right foot down, even when a passenger is on. That's assuming they're not moving!
Hi Eddie, I am practicing all of your tips and I can already see the difference. Although I get 30 years of practice, still can't do some of the things you teach. So big thanks for these lessons, you rock man!
I am a short (not too short) rider of 1.70 cm. I am sorry I'm Italian and not very familiar with inches. I own a Suzuki Vstrom 650 and can easily touch the ground with both feet but not flat. So I am practicing on single flat and stable foot on the ground and it works much better.
Thank you for sharing your skills
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WHAT A GREAT ADVICE, THANKS FOR SHARING THE KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR EXPWRIENCE GREG, I JUST BOGHT MY FIRST ADVENTURE BIKE AND IT'S A BIT TALL. I HAVE TO START PRACTICING THIS TECNIQUE.
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I taught car driving for a long time and Im also a long time motorcycle rider, 67 now and still ride a vstrom, I would have to disagree with you. even the most experienced person can get caught out a stop light and so if you are in gear on a manual bike or car the situation can be worse if you get a shunt from the rear. The first thing that will happen is your feet will come off the pedals in a car and your hands on a motorcycle, Im not saying your rear brake take off is the best way,I do both. When i was teaching I always impressed the use of rear view mirrors and an escape route, cheers I love your videos great for new and veteran riders.
There's many ways to do the same thing, some work better for others, some have their own way.
I'm a newish rider in the UK getting hints and tips where I can. Lucky for us in the UK our foot goes down on the kerb side and not in the path of a motor too close.
Nice!
Could you make a video on how to safely handle low traction enviroments? For example: What to do if you get into some gravel in the twisties or how to ride over slick metal surfaces (steel plates or sewer covers) when raining?
Alexis Robles I made a video about street riding where I mention rain, gravel, animals, etc! I believe it’s called Street Riding or Abort from a corner or something lol
Great! I will look for it. Thanks!
You are so right not putting in neutral.Thats what I always do since I am short and got a big bike.lol
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Same!
I’ll be the first to admins that I am guilty of being in neutral at a known long traffic light and a car stopped behind me to stretch out my hands and legs... I remember being taught to lower my right foot so that I can have a foot ready to engage gear when the situation presents itself. It’s been a while since I made the switch to my left foot down, but I’m with you - rear brake holds you on a hill and allows for a smooth stop (front and rear).
I'm going to make another video today about starting and stopping on a hill! But yes...rear brake always!
In the UK we drive on the left so your left foot is lower due to the camber of the road which is sometimes severe. This can be a serious problem for shorter riders particularly on roads with loose gravel of potholes.
Yup, you'll have to adjust based on many variables :)
This is what I was thinking. I'm in Australia. I have stopped at a road Junction which sloped down to my left. I put my left foot down and had a real panic because the bike nearly fell over. The lean to the left was almost too much for me. I now keep the slope in mind. Sometimes I have to put my right foot down as the distance to the ground on the left is too much.
Hi there Moto Jitsu, thank you so much for this demonstration, I will put all these tips to my riding,I also feel a lot more comfortable keeping my motorbike in gear,I've started going round my block & I'm getting better,thanks to your Excellent teachings, thank you friend for your time & teachings & Happy Riding friend 🙂🙂🙂
I have another video about tips for short riders too :) Thanks!
Ur videp makes so much sense for a newbie like me getting a yamaha mt 15 whereby im only 5'3.
I was having the fear on my foot and balancing the bike when i hit the stop lights... i will try to follow ur steps as much as i can and keep practicing it when i get my bike real soon
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There is nothing wrong on your explanation, I really like it.. But imagine i.e. being a delivery guy on a day shift in a city with hundreds of intersections with lights. In Czech Republic we have a yellow signal between the red and green, so you have an extra time to prepare for a takeoff (shift to first).. I never hold the clutch, always go to neutral from second just before the stop (on lights), so my hand can rest on the handlebar, not having to press the clutch at all. I usually stand both feet, or I change the legs as I wish, or as per the situation. There could be a deep puddle, or a hole, or some oil or whatever.. So we even teach riders to stop and go, changing the legs (its a part of compulsory exam to get the license). And actually it´s required to put your feet back onto the pegs, takin the leg off the peg at the moment the bike stops (if you drag it, it might be a fail).. :)
I just lowered my (GS1200) seat and also removed some of the foam on either side and can put both feet flat on the ground. I offroad and ride lots of bad South American roads and being able to put both feet on the ground is very, very important for me
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Hi Natacha - Any tips on removing the foam as I find the standard seat too wide at the front. Thanks.
A serious question for anyone to answer. Can't always put my left foot down because roads here camber or slope left and makes the ground for a left foot so, so hard to reach that the bike feels like it's going down. So why shouldn't I use my right foot or both at times. Isn't it about assessing the situation?
Depends on where you're stopping..if it's sloped to the left, put your right foot down.
@@MotoJitsu Well that's what I thought but 90% of making these videos say almost never if ever at all should you put your right foot down. So I guess the answer is to go with my instinct and by my assessment of the situation ahead. Thank you for your all so brief reply.
I don't put my right foot down, it's very rare that I do.
I’d forgotten about letting off the front brake and using the rear over the winter since my test last year. Thank you for the reminder. I have a Vfr800fi and like the look of the upright riding position of the gs but was put off by the size. I reckon I can give my 30” inside leg a throw over one now. :)
Sure can! I also made a video about how to ride if you're shorter...my buddy has the same bike and he's 5'7" and does just fine.
Sooooooooo right. So well observed and advised to people. I love your strong clear pragmatism.
After only a minute you were worth subscribing to.
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Im 168cm without shoes (5.5 ~ 5.6?) just perfectly flat footed on ninja 250 but tiptoeing on ninja 300. When I check the seat height info online theyre only 0.05mm different. Strange...
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What do you do when you want to give the left hand a rest? (instead of putting it into neutral, while standing for a red light)
Switch fingers of holding in the clutch or use all 4...lights aren't that long.
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lol @ green light..im 5.7 and by necessity this is exactly how ive adapted to my fjr1300. i see so many people pull up next to me neutral, arms folded, no cars behind them and think u arent a safe rider. u may be fast in corner but, MCing is so much more than taking a corner fast...Heres an idea for a vid if u havent done it already. Golden roadcraft tips. #1 Riding through a built up area, there a bus in a stopped lane ahead watch for stupid peds crossing in front of it by looking in front of buses front tyre. you will see them before they stick their nose out. same applies to cars moving out of side streets, watch wheels.
Good, thanks Eddie. How about how you recommend mounting and dismounting with a tall bike, short legs and side cases?
Pretty much the same thing...and just practice and see what works best for you. Literally mount, start up, go 20ft, dismount, and repeat. Do that for a hour, no kidding. You'll be good!
5' 4" went to buy a V-Strom 650 today but it was a newer model, high seat, about 500lbs. It was the weight that killed it. Saw a CB500F posted just minutes after getting home and took off to buy it. Amazing bike. You may be able to work around the seat height but those BMWs are so heavy!!
Some are...but the limiting factor is always the rider, not the bike.
Works a treat unless the road cambers away to the left then has to be right foot down. Learned the hard way on a tall bike and now practicing right foot down on an incline. Great video as always. 👍
Thank you. I am a new rider and I’m 5’10 with a little over a 33in seat and I was having immense frustration due to dropping the bike. I wish I would’ve heard these tips sooner. Omw to go try them!
You still drop your bike at 5'10? I thought only short riders do that like me, 5'6 and I drop my bike because I came to a red light, the road was slanted down and I started tippy toe, and lost my balance.
@@patony_1288 yeah the bike I ride is quite tall. I can’t put my feet down on the ground flat at stand still it’s a constant stretch
I am 5.3 or 5.4 maybe on stock height Gixxer 750 L5. I do exactly what you showed. I almost never put right foot down on stops/stop lights simply because I need to lean bike to the left a little bit almost all the time on stops. I have to do a lot of thinking ahead before everything, stopping, parking, putting bike in the garage, getting it out etc.
Sure do! Could take some padding out of the seat, my buddy did that on her R6.
All great advice from the get go.
Thanks from a old new rider.
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Is it ok to hold a bike clutch for a long period of time? Will it not damage the clutch?
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I am forced to put the bike in neutral at stoplights simply because I can be stopped for 5 minutes. Keeping the clutch disengaged for 5 mins at several intersections can give my left hand a cramp.
So that's worth your safety? A little discomfort? Do as you wish..but if a car comes up and isn't stopping, good luck trying to get that thing into 1st gear quickly to take off.
Or if u know u r stopping for 5min just press the engine kill switch..
At a stop light? How insane lol
A little perspective is needed here. Intersections with stop lights at my part of the world are dense. 20 cars and 20 small motorcycles around you. Bumper to bumper, or fender to fender. Not to mention dead stop while in traffic. Just the realities we riders have to deal with in the cities.
Fast Eddie’s Motorcycle Fun 😅😂 if someone is not comfortable then its best to switch off after all its saving fuel and energy.... 😜🤣😂
At 5’10 I don’t really consider myself short. I think people put too much emphasis on a riders height when talking about these issues, when the consideration should be on your inseam. With a 30 inch inseam, I’m at a disadvantage with tall motorcycles. I’ve seen riders who are 3-4 inches shorter than me but have much longer legs and are therefore more comfortable on the taller bikes than I might be. Ones height isn’t much of a factor.
That's one variable yes!
I’m 4”8, *help*
I'm going to seriously practice this! Excellent guidence. Thank you!
I’m 6’5 and have just started riding. Would be interested to see a similar video for tall riders, as there is hardly anything online or on youtube. Especially when you’re not into large adventure bikes or big Harleys, like me. I bought a Triumph Bonneville T120, as it’s one of the few bikes with a comfortable riding position.
Just need a taller bike, all else is same. :)
Apart from shifting my body off centre I did that when I had a go on bigger, driving school school bikes. I was OK on a flat ground, although I struggled a bit even then but there are many very steep hills in the area , with traffic lights bang in the middle. (My 125cc old cruiser couldn't make two of them from a standstill; I had to push the bike to the side and take a different route or push the bike all the way up if I had no choice!) I nearly fell over in such a spot with 500 cc and 600 cc bikes because I didn't have enough strength to push the bike upright. It was only the fear of getting that bike on top of me and the honking cars that gave me the strength, just, to get going. The ball of my left foot also gives me trouble sometimes, since I broke it using it as a brake (during an accident when the brakes were damaged)
I want to do a riding test next year (basic driving licence) in UK, but I am terrified of those stops, there are rather lot of them, although otherwise I was fine once I got used to the clutch (finding the biting point). I won't be able to practice riding on a bigger bike than 125 cc without a licence, or even with my own vehicle (Grom) as there are no empty car parks around here - all I do is daily commute on low speed - I've managed to get a top speed on quiet road to just over 42 mph and no junctions. Now, when do get my paws on a bigger bike, it will be with a riding school. Lessons are expensive of course so I cannot practice that much. Do you have any tips how to push a bike upright after hill stop so I can make the most of my time at riding school? (The teachers are nice but sometimes I don't understand straight away what they mean.)
How to push a bike upright after hill stop? So it fell over? Why are you pushing the bike vs riding it?
I'm 5'5, ride an R6. I also learned to ride on a dirt bike which was probably hilarious to watch. For "shorter" folks, these type of techniques are just a part of riding ALMOST any supersport or adv bike that's not under 300cc unless it's a cruiser or a bobber, etc. These are helpful tips, especially for those interested in a bike who's seat height may be an initial concern. Oh! And never skip leg day!
:) I also have other, newer videos on short rider tips that may help. th-cam.com/video/GY_aE2METpk/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much for making this video! I appreciate your help!
Now i have to practice this hopefully this will help me in long run.
For sure!
I never knew that! So leave it on first gear with the rear brake on when you stop. The last time I rode a motorcycle was with my Honda CB35O in 1976, when I collided with a vehicle making a left turn in front of me.
Thanks for this video!!! An all the others!
My main problem is being short (5,7' - 170cm), with tip-toes when try to place both on the ground, with an heavy bike and pillion, how to stop in the best way on place that have asymmetrical ground... Imagine for instance a downhill stop with a certain angle, with more inclination on the left and with the need to turn after the stop about 45 degrees right... And now the opposite with the stop not flat but with more inclination on the right...
How you suggest to manage it? Thanks!!!
you're welcome!
Could you do a video or two on options for short riders to help with getting to or close to flat footing? For example large sole shoes or boots and examples, shaved seats pros and cons and why lowering a bike should never be an option.
I made 2 videos for short riders, just have to go through and search!
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"So I'm 5'9" on the 1200 GS.."
Thank you Greg, you just quelled all my worries!
I really like the idea of getting an ADV, but I was thinking my height (also 5'9") might be an issue-
You've proved to me that it simply isn't!
..and you mentioning never being in neutral at a stop light makes perfect sense - one foot on the ground is all you ever need!
Thank you Fast Eddie mk2!
You're welcome!!
@@MotoJitsu Greg, thank you again for all your videos- I hope you realise you've probably saved a lot of lives with your knowledge - one thing that always gets my blood pumping and hair raised is negative camber corners, would you consider doing a video on negative camber corner technique?
If it gives you comfort: I am 5´6" and ride an Africa Twin. It´s not an issue. I am really comfortable with it.
So how do you PARK a bike (in reverse in particular) if you're a shorter rider? I had no issues riding, but dropped the bike twice when parking.
Jump off and push it into the spot...practice my friend...go to a parking lot and practice pushing your bike around. Seriously...
When I come to a stop I try and aim my wheels towards the divots in the road made by car tires. It creates an elevated spot to the right and the left of the bike that makes it easier to reach the ground.
That may work for some! Good idea!
That's fine on even surfaces. The problem will arise on uneven ground when you lose balance. Modern machines also tend to have a higher centre of gravity adding to the problem for short legs. My advice..lower the seat or get a smaller machine.
Obviously there will be issues if you lose balance no matter where you are.
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What do you do when you need to back the bike up...say when you are about to park or need to back out from a parking position? do you straddle the bike and back up or do you walk the bike backwards?
I don't, I back it in so I can leave facing outwards.
A few years ago I had a go on a 500cc and 600 cc bikes. I could hardly put toes on one foot down and had a problem pushing the bike upright when taking off on flat ground (without having enough leverage): had I put my foot flat on the ground the other one would not have reached the peg! So when I had to stop at hill with a the road sloping towards left... It was sheer luck I didn't fall over (and down the hill) with the bike on top of me! I
was terrified of the thought of trying for a full (A) driving licence and kept looking for advice on what to do for nearly three years. I haven't tried the advice here, but it surely needs quitw a bit of practice to start driving with bum off the seat and feet off the pegs.
Luckily more shorties had attended the bike school, so they decided to lower the suspension of one of the 670cc bikes (Yamaha MT07) and got a 500cc cruiser as well (Honda Rebel). I had a go on Sinnis Hoodlam as well, another cruiser. While I was taking lessons I was driving 125cc bike (Honda YBR), which is a standard bike like MT7. It was great to be able to be able to learn on different bikes. I did my test on the Yamaha bike but I am convinced I am a cruiser girl at heart.
The downside when driving a bike with low, or lowered, bike is that you have to be so much more careful when going over speed humps and uneven surface; I cannot see myself driving on a footpath through a field or anything else gentle off road short cut like I used to with my first two bikes. Even the lower chassis of Grom makes me doubt if I would attempt it, although it is otherwise great: a lightweight bike doesn't sink into mud so readily and the bike is easy to pick up, even by someone like me, if you fall.
5'9??
I'm 5ft. I'm trying to get into sport bikes but it's seems my height is gonna make that a challenge 😂
lol sure will! lol
Try 125cc bikes
Man you can lower a sport bike some but if you lower a bike like he has, you pretty much lose the advantages of having a bike like his! I am short too about 5’ 7” and I ride a goldwing, it can be done!
@@normandegeorge6526 i'm about 5'8 and i ride a Triumph Tiger 1200! The only thing is you have to pay attention every time you're going to stop the bike! Always look where you going to put your feet!
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Got it, thanks. I’m a short guy so a bit of a cheek sneak at a stop is required.
I am going to try this. I am 5'2" and my g650gs is so heavy I am going g to try the tripod method you suggested. That k you so much Eddie! I love all of your videos. 🙂🙂🙂
You're welcome :)
Super tips! Exactly what I’m doing. Been driving a BWW R1200GSA for 6 years now after been told I was too short for these kind of bikes. F*** them !!!!!
Exactly
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Great advice. I am a new rider and this helped me.
Glad it helped!
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Just got my first bike, CB 500x. I’m a petite new rider. I feel like I’m on a giraffe lol. This makes so much sense. I’m going to get the seat shaved bc I can barely touch tip toes. Hopefully I can get it to where I’m comfortable bc I love this bike.
I have a newer videos about short rider tips too...see that one?
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Thank you so much, as a new driver this gives me a little more confidence
not only the height of the bike but more like the weight, doesn't matter if you can half foot the thing if the bike itself is too heavy to handle, expecially in the low speed manouvers
I don't agree....keep practicing!
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Hi Eddie. Loving your video’s, very useful and I’ve been riding for forty years. We’ve Just got a new GS and finding it a bit tricky at low speed with pillion and loaded. Any tips on low speed manoeuvring when two up and loaded?
First, get really good by yourself...then practice with your passenger. Spend a lot of time riding with your passenger in a big, empty parking lot.
I have a 650gs sertao which is taller bike and I have to half cheek it with my right foot on the rear brake and left foot down same as you, but on uneven ground gets fatiguing and hard to balance after a while.
Try to keep it upright a bit more!
Boy do i feel dumb...your point about not being in neutral and being ready is something i should have already thought of and could save your life!!! I will always be ready now. Thanks for the eye opener!!!!!
You're welcome!
Great straight forward videos. Thanks dude.
thanks!
Thanks for the advice it is great. you look pretty tall anyway.
jus wondering have you ever come to a stop where the left foot is on the low side. , like way too low, then you need another plan. id be interested to know how you do it . i swing the right foot out and use front brake but this is trickier, than the left foot and rear brake combination you recommend.
Im 5'4" and ride a std f800s, its tall, and i have dropped it at stop. carrying luggage really complicates things , For example try riding onto a transport ship up loading ramps over slippery metal plates when you cant touch the ground and have full luggage and have to stop every few bike lengths with cross winds/ . not fun
My system is very much like yours. i keep chain tension on at all times ( by clutching ) even when coming to a stop i really try to look ahead to where i can stop on flat surfaces . That's where i have ben caught say when another rider takes off and suddenly stops and i cant touch where im forced to stop without planning.
.i am considering lowered suspension, but for me the bike is 100% fine once moving so im not keen to compromise handling. especially in the dirt . i would certainly like to know how others have gone with this process,. im really surprised there are a lot of lowering kits but very little in the way of reviews on what they do to the bike.
Two questions arise in my mind for you :
- Having the bike "always" in first gear on the traffic lights, doesn't that shorten the 'live" of your clutch?
- What about if you have a person riding with a passenger/pillion? Does it works the same way? one for on the ground too?
No, it doesn't. Doesn't matter. I do nothing different.
Hi Eddie, thanks for all of the videos you upload. They've really been very helpful. Do moderns clutches "burn"? It's one of the reasons I (one some other people I know) put neutral at stoplights.
It's a dumb idea to put the bike in neutral at stop lights...I'm always in 1st ready to go in case something happens. Saved me many times already.
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It's a wet clutch, running in oil. It is not going to "burn" unless you are reving and dropping to clutch to do wheelies all the time. A few Ducati's have dry clutch - but if you think about it, cars with stickshift have dry clutch and they are moving a lot more weight from a stop light then a Ducati. It's not an issue.
Anyone know tips for turning right from a stop with short legs? I dropped my bike the other day because I could not switch feet fast enough. I also braked with the wheel was turned. So it was mostly my bad.
braking abruptly with the wheel turned is never a good idea but I would just practice doing that until you're good at it.
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You stop light example is spot on. Once I was stopped at a light and next thing I knew my bike was moving forward. I had the rear brake on and I stepped on it harder along with the front brake. Still moving forward slowly. I saw the reflection on the mirror and a car was on my ass. The driver (half stupid) was inching forward as they were searching for something on the passenger seat and pushing me into the intersection. So I took off, the coast was clear fortunately.
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This is the best video about how to stop...bad title, terrific video.
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Exactly what the riding instructors teach in Singapore. However, I still right foot down and neutral when I ride on my own as holding the clutch lever can be tiring.
Hi Greg! Can you, please, make some videos for short rider, heavy bike, stopping/parking on uneven surface? Thanks!🙂
Great vid, thanks Eddie. The only time I have to put my right foot down is on an extreme left sloping camber (NZ rider here so we ride on the left), otherwise with short legs, I will arse over...and I have. Not pretty. That flashing headlight - is it relative to your particular bike or available for all bikes? Cheers.
Ahhhh yes...there are some circumstances where I do put my right foot down but very rare. The flashing light isn't actually flashing..it's just the frequency of the light beam and my iPhone recording it!
Oh hahaha, it looks awesome tho!!
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And if for whatever reason...a gust of wind pushes you right...then you have to shift your weight to the right and now at least two things are working against you: your weight and the momentum of the bike. That just might be enough to make the bike topple. Not pretty. Liter bikes are heavy, I want to keep mine balanced at a stop. I can't get my feet completely flat on the ground, but I can confidently back up with both feet if I need to on a good surface. 5'7' on a 32" tall 2003 Yamaha YZF-R1. Everything is working against you on two wheels. 😟
I’m 50% midget on my moms side. Any tips of how us vertically challenged riders can get started. I usually use a ream of 3-4 midgets to hold up the bike and push it. Then jump in the saddle bags to be ready for the next stop light.
little trampoline!
❓ Question for all the 'right foot on the peg all the time' proponents: how do get the side stand down (and up) ?
I must be missing really something really obvious.... .
I like putting bike in neutral at lights because my hands get sore and it gives them a break.
Hi from a newbie Eddie, thank you so much for all your work and useful information, I've learned so much from you. I have a question as regards taking off into a sharp right from a stop. I guess from this video you're answer will be 'yes' but I'll ask anyway. So you keep your right foot up and on the pedal even to perform a sharp right turn from a stop situation?
Ok, think I've found what I'm looking for…
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lol no way
Great instructional videos! Keep them coming! Thanks
You bet!
Meh, I ride in Rome, Italy right now and I pretty much just always filter up to the front and in front of stopped cars. Once there, I put in neutral and relax, safe in the knowledge that the cars behind me are already stopped. If I happen to be the first vehicle, with no stopped cars behind me, you’re GD right I keep it in first and watch the mirrors for that car coming up behind me.
Many ways to do one thing.
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thanks for this video, im at the level of having a smaller (in height) motorcycle to build my confidence, but do like the appeal of something like a GS or similar.