Just picked up some 1" Titanium tubing with some titanium end caps. Not as light as CF but was cheaper and can use it in a fire if needs be (not sure why it need to be fireproof but it is).
I saw the knifepoint one, but since its no longer sold I found a good one on etsy that works good and is 4 ounces with the 12 inch blade for not that much.
I made similar saw for myself exactly 2 months ago, for the same reason: WEIGHT! I sharpened other side with angle grinder and made knife, so saw on one side and knife on the other, and I attached sheath for the knife-saw on one of my hiking stick and I can get it instantly anytime. low weight 2in1 most important tool for woodlands. btw I have the same type and size hiking backpack(because of low weight), and my flashlight weighs only 30 grams-1oz with 3 LR44 batteries.
I love it! Great ideas with the multi tool idea and how you pack the blade! So did you run with the smaller diameter handle since you doing stow the blade in the handle? Sounds like a a super lightweight setup you got there!!!!!
@@Ryan_Erkkila 1. I avoided that by grinding off the base that goes inside the handle(to half of blade height), fortunately I found some variety of wood in my vicinity which is durable, resistant to moisture/temperature variance and lightweight so I replaced my old aluminimum handle with that. I just prefer feel of natural grip, especially when palm is sweaty. serves well. 2. I wanted to share my idea about instant in hand stow-away solution to any fixed blade. As you know sometimes you can get in a situation when stowing is difficult when sitting on a tree branch, or moving on uneven terrain in darkness. please google Chacko T Kalacherry Knife Guard. as you can see the guard top moves along Y axis of the blade, radially with respect to the midpoint of fixed bottom. now imagine similar guard moving on Z axis, with spine attached to the spine of a blade. I did that by welding backside of small belt hanger(similar to metal Victorinox Belt Hanger! with open/close position system) onto the spine of the blade of my smaller knife. then cut out plastic knife edge guard that has shape of the blade but slightly larger and screwed it into the moving part of the hanger which acts as guard remover. then increased the angle of hanger to accomodate deep cut slices, and voila! While holding knife with single finger I can remove guard off and instantly put it on anytime in the air while other hand holding to smth . simple, yet very effective solution, and lightweight. I tried Kalacherry invention(which I had no idea about and thought I was the pioneer back then) but it was uncomfortably impractical, especially when working in tight spaces. foldable side guard alongside spine of blade is probably the best longlasting and ergonomic solution from my experience. btw anyone interested can claim and patent this.
Well done. Enjoyed the video. I might make one with a steel handle. Huge weight penalty, but I think I can get it done with free materials just for fun, and keep it in my truck
For me, the Large Tooth(orange handle) Silky Gomboy Curve 210mm which weighs only 320g(0.7 lbs) and cost only $59.67 and it zips through any log faster than any saw I've ever used. You should check it out. It's the best saw. A LOT of backpackers and BMX riders carry this saw in their packs for clearing trees.
That's a cool saw, nice build! I like diy projects where you partner with manufacturing shops, expands your skills and you meet good people that are usually really interested in what your doing. What do you think it cost you overall?
Yeah I agree with you on that. I’ve met a lot of good people along the way with all my project. As for the cost of the saw……it’s been a while now since I’ve built it but it was over 200 for sure. I don’t have an exact number. Mostly a result of the machine work.
I had the original one which I bought from their website years ago, I ask them to make a titanium one but they said no. I’m thinking of using titanium with rubber grips with no end cap, it’s hard to find the right size titanium tube and most high quality titanium is from Russia.
That is a good idea. Talk about simple too. If you aren’t concerned about stowing the blade within the handle the all you need is a Ti tube of the desired outside diameter and have a machine shops turn the ID about an inch in that excepts the tail end of the blade!!!! Mega simple and likely not that bad of a machine shop bill either.
I guess you could give it a shot but this saw is under a fair amount of loading when in use and I’d hate for it to fail in some way causing potential serious injury…..especially if on a remote hunt or backpacking trip. Now there are obviously other strong materials that could be used but would likely come with a large weight penalty. The bulk of the expense really came with the precision machine work of the three metal parts actually so if you could find a way around that you could really cut the price down. Heck if you come up with something a lot cheaper, but still safe, strong and without a weight penalty, I’m all ears! I’d follow your lead and make one for myself too!!! Thanks for watching!
I hope you took my comment in the encouraging way it was meant. This is a great idea! My first thought was a low budget diy solution. Like aluminum conduit. Or something off the shelf. I have several saw. Including the Scandinavian one (forget the brand it's famous) that breaks down into squareish extruded aluminum. But the blade falls out all the time. And they are very expensive. If I had more time at the moment. I might look around the hardware store. Or call McmasterCarrs engineers. Those guys are genius and so helpful. Or maybe a composite material that already came with end caps. Even if you reenforced a PVS cap with a quarter or round flat steel. It should support the saw blade under tension.
No not at all. I’m open to any comments, suggestions or constructive criticism! I just like that your wheels are turning. I don’t keep anything as is. Always thinking of how to change or improve on an existing idea…sounds like we are one in the same!
For some reason it wont let me reply to you, but the shop was called lighten up outdoors, which also had a website on a card they gave me, let me know if you need more details but my comments keep getting flagged.
How is the connection between the handle and the blade. Seem robust enough? Thats one thing I like about how mine works. It’s a super strong no give no flex connection that I’m very confident in. That saw you make comment of looks really nice and a heck of a bargain! One blade is included at that price too! Crazy
@@Ryan_Erkkila The connection is pretty good. At the end of the day it is a plastic handle but it seems sturdy. When the blade is locked there's the very slightest forward and back wiggle but it doesn't affect the functionality of it from my use. Your blade lockup probably is sturdier because it has a lot of tension on it where this doesnt really, plus this things so light you almost mistake it for a toy. Theres basically a metal screw that goes in front of the blade so the blade isn't going anywhere, but it does move in place just a hair. The seller talks about it a little in the description too so maybe you could message them if you wanted. But like you mention, even if I didn't like it I still have the blade which is like at least 1/3 of the pricetag alone.
I can’t remember exactly given it’s been a while since I made it but over $200 I’m pretty sure, which is ridiculous. Like I said in the video though. If you were able to do your own machine work you could really cut the cost way down. Thanks for watching!
Love the concept! Makes me want to DIY my own.
I like this idea. I'm going to see if I can find a different wat to do it but still use that saw blade.
Just picked up some 1" Titanium tubing with some titanium end caps. Not as light as CF but was cheaper and can use it in a fire if needs be (not sure why it need to be fireproof but it is).
You should drop a video of how you did it! I’d love to see it! If you do make sure to send me a link or something to it. I’m very interested!
I saw the knifepoint one, but since its no longer sold I found a good one on etsy that works good and is 4 ounces with the 12 inch blade for not that much.
I’d be interested is sing that product. If you could send a link or something it would be much appreciated. Thanks for watching!
I made similar saw for myself exactly 2 months ago, for the same reason: WEIGHT! I sharpened other side with angle grinder and made knife, so saw on one side and knife on the other, and I attached sheath for the knife-saw on one of my hiking stick and I can get it instantly anytime. low weight 2in1 most important tool for woodlands. btw I have the same type and size hiking backpack(because of low weight), and my flashlight weighs only 30 grams-1oz with 3 LR44 batteries.
I love it! Great ideas with the multi tool idea and how you pack the blade! So did you run with the smaller diameter handle since you doing stow the blade in the handle? Sounds like a a super lightweight setup you got there!!!!!
@@Ryan_Erkkila
1. I avoided that by grinding off the base that goes inside the handle(to half of blade height), fortunately I found some variety of wood in my vicinity which is durable, resistant to moisture/temperature variance and lightweight so I replaced my old aluminimum handle with that. I just prefer feel of natural grip, especially when palm is sweaty. serves well.
2. I wanted to share my idea about instant in hand stow-away solution to any fixed blade. As you know sometimes you can get in a situation when stowing is difficult when sitting on a tree branch, or moving on uneven terrain in darkness. please google Chacko T Kalacherry Knife Guard. as you can see the guard top moves along Y axis of the blade, radially with respect to the midpoint of fixed bottom. now imagine similar guard moving on Z axis, with spine attached to the spine of a blade. I did that by welding backside of small belt hanger(similar to metal Victorinox Belt Hanger! with open/close position system) onto the spine of the blade of my smaller knife. then cut out plastic knife edge guard that has shape of the blade but slightly larger and screwed it into the moving part of the hanger which acts as guard remover. then increased the angle of hanger to accomodate deep cut slices, and voila! While holding knife with single finger I can remove guard off and instantly put it on anytime in the air while other hand holding to smth . simple, yet very effective solution, and lightweight. I tried Kalacherry invention(which I had no idea about and thought I was the pioneer back then) but it was uncomfortably impractical, especially when working in tight spaces. foldable side guard alongside spine of blade is probably the best longlasting and ergonomic solution from my experience. btw anyone interested can claim and patent this.
Well done. Enjoyed the video. I might make one with a steel handle. Huge weight penalty, but I think I can get it done with free materials just for fun, and keep it in my truck
For sure. If you aren’t carrying it all over the additional weight will make no difference!
For me, the Large Tooth(orange handle) Silky Gomboy Curve 210mm which weighs only 320g(0.7 lbs) and cost only $59.67 and it zips through any log faster than any saw I've ever used. You should check it out. It's the best saw. A LOT of backpackers and BMX riders carry this saw in their packs for clearing trees.
I’ll have to take a look! Thanks for your input!
I’m lucky enough to own the original knifepoint saw. It’s awesome. The handle diameter is fine. Lightest saw out there. Too bad they’re discontinued.
Yeah I tried buying one but I was too late
That's a cool saw, nice build! I like diy projects where you partner with manufacturing shops, expands your skills and you meet good people that are usually really interested in what your doing. What do you think it cost you overall?
Yeah I agree with you on that. I’ve met a lot of good people along the way with all my project. As for the cost of the saw……it’s been a while now since I’ve built it but it was over 200 for sure. I don’t have an exact number. Mostly a result of the machine work.
I had the original one which I bought from their website years ago, I ask them to make a titanium one but they said no. I’m thinking of using titanium with rubber grips with no end cap, it’s hard to find the right size titanium tube and most high quality titanium is from Russia.
That is a good idea. Talk about simple too. If you aren’t concerned about stowing the blade within the handle the all you need is a Ti tube of the desired outside diameter and have a machine shops turn the ID about an inch in that excepts the tail end of the blade!!!! Mega simple and likely not that bad of a machine shop bill either.
THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Couldn't you do this with a kess expensive material? Like metal reenforced pvc?
I guess you could give it a shot but this saw is under a fair amount of loading when in use and I’d hate for it to fail in some way causing potential serious injury…..especially if on a remote hunt or backpacking trip. Now there are obviously other strong materials that could be used but would likely come with a large weight penalty. The bulk of the expense really came with the precision machine work of the three metal parts actually so if you could find a way around that you could really cut the price down. Heck if you come up with something a lot cheaper, but still safe, strong and without a weight penalty, I’m all ears! I’d follow your lead and make one for myself too!!! Thanks for watching!
I hope you took my comment in the encouraging way it was meant. This is a great idea!
My first thought was a low budget diy solution. Like aluminum conduit. Or something off the shelf. I have several saw. Including the Scandinavian one (forget the brand it's famous) that breaks down into squareish extruded aluminum. But the blade falls out all the time. And they are very expensive.
If I had more time at the moment. I might look around the hardware store. Or call McmasterCarrs engineers. Those guys are genius and so helpful.
Or maybe a composite material that already came with end caps. Even if you reenforced a PVS cap with a quarter or round flat steel. It should support the saw blade under tension.
PVC I meant.
No not at all. I’m open to any comments, suggestions or constructive criticism! I just like that your wheels are turning. I don’t keep anything as is. Always thinking of how to change or improve on an existing idea…sounds like we are one in the same!
For some reason it wont let me reply to you, but the shop was called lighten up outdoors, which also had a website on a card they gave me, let me know if you need more details but my comments keep getting flagged.
Dang! That’s cool! Thanks for sharing. Only 10 times cheaper than building mine too!🤦🏼♂️
How is the connection between the handle and the blade. Seem robust enough? Thats one thing I like about how mine works. It’s a super strong no give no flex connection that I’m very confident in. That saw you make comment of looks really nice and a heck of a bargain! One blade is included at that price too! Crazy
@@Ryan_Erkkila The connection is pretty good. At the end of the day it is a plastic handle but it seems sturdy. When the blade is locked there's the very slightest forward and back wiggle but it doesn't affect the functionality of it from my use. Your blade lockup probably is sturdier because it has a lot of tension on it where this doesnt really, plus this things so light you almost mistake it for a toy. Theres basically a metal screw that goes in front of the blade so the blade isn't going anywhere, but it does move in place just a hair. The seller talks about it a little in the description too so maybe you could message them if you wanted. But like you mention, even if I didn't like it I still have the blade which is like at least 1/3 of the pricetag alone.
Whatbwas the final cost?
I can’t remember exactly given it’s been a while since I made it but over $200 I’m pretty sure, which is ridiculous. Like I said in the video though. If you were able to do your own machine work you could really cut the cost way down. Thanks for watching!
Just get a silky man
Why would I do that when I could otherwise waste a bunch of time building my own for a lot more money. lol. 😆 thanks for watching