Worlds LIGHTEST Most POWERFUL Backpacking / Survival saw
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- Worlds LIGHTEST Most POWERFUL Backpacking / Survival saw
In this video I go over some of the main features of the worlds lightest backpacking / survival saw. You will not find a lighter, faster saw anywhere!
For more info and up to date specs please visit www.knifepointgear.com Thank you!
This lightweight backpacking saw uses reciprocating saw blades with carbide teeth. That makes it unbelievably fast. Even the hardest hardwoods are no match for CARBIDE!
Forget the folding pruning saw. They are heavy, and their blades are not meant for cutting dead hardwoods. Our lightweight saw is the fastest cutting, lightest weight, backpacking / survival saw currently available. Even out cutting MUCH larger saws! - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Sorry due to a rebranding this saw is no longer available. The rebrand is due to the major website hosting sites and payment process not liking our name. They think we are selling "weapons"🙄 I will be working on a new site for my other sharpening stuff but this saw will probably not return. To be honest its just too expensive to make. REAL carbon fiber (not fake Chinese stuff from Amazon) is expensive. So are the custom machined pieces that hold the blade. I constantly get people saying they can make them cheaper but then get sent pictures of their version and it involves duct tape and pvc. To make something that actually works and lasts is a different story.
I am just not capable of scaling production to make them cheaper in order to meet demand.
I may do a small run here or there for fun though.😊 Thanks for everyone who bought a one really appreciate it!
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Heres a video showing its true capabilities th-cam.com/video/UgRZ7m5yFLw/w-d-xo.html
This saw was designed for myself because I wanted a saw that actually worked, that was sub 4oz, that was capable of breaking down with no tools, or small parts to loose, and had readily available replacement blades off the shelf. Turns out some other people wanted them too. So we started selling them. It fits a very specific purpose. And for that purpose works very well, and will out cut much bigger saws. Anything can be done when you start adding weight (folding mechanisms, etc). But keeping it under 4oz while still providing all the other features is the tricky part. Especially since the blade accounts for half the weight! Combine this with the correct mora and you have a sub 8oz knife / saw combo😁 It is an ultra light piece of gear that does require some "skill" to use. Not unlike an ultralight dyneema tent, tarp, or an alcohol stove. I think if you have to ask "why?" then it may not be for you, and thats ok 👍 If you are a gram / oz counter then your in the right place 😉 The actual saw handle portion (the expensive part, not the blade) is covered by a lifetime warranty as long as we are in business. I am still using my original prototype with original blade that has cut CORDS of wood at this point! Thanks for taking the time to watch my video! It's always appreciated 🙏
I got 12" Diablo blades for cordless sawzall. I think it may run too fast for òptimal efficiency. I need to see if theres a speed adjustment.
Great idea here and Milwaukee makes a folding blade holder;
Why not make handle a slightly larger diameter, so the saw blade would fit inside the handle and the end where it actually goes to attach to the saw just has a slight taper... It could be made into the fitting itself and not the carbon fiber.. that way it's a self-contained unit.
Love the video! I've got a Sawzall blade mod video you should check out
You "lose" "loose" parts. These two words are rarely used with grammatical accuracy.
If you claim this is the best and you believe in it, you should have no issue taking a risk to help people be equipped best and make some money on the way. JOE X is the one and only authentic blade tester on youtube, send him a saw and let him show us the comparison betweer your saw and silkys foldable saws
That idea of using a tensioning cord to hold and tighten the blade in the handle is absolutely genius. It's such a simple and eloquent design.
We tried HUNDREDS of other methods, including having custom pieces laser cut. However it would add more cost to something that is already expensive to make. And there's no real benefit. The entire tensioning contraption weights 2 grams🙂
@@knifepointgear5851 it is a great design.
So simple I am just going to make one myself
Until it busts then it's junk lol
I agree, I made a super simple light hanger that works on just about anything vertical. Everyone at work laughed until they saw my 2 second setup and install and then I helped them scoop their jaws up off the floor after they dropped from the super simple install.
I'm usually the person who says, "I can make that," but this time I ordered one. Great idea and concept.
Thought the same. But this is a great idea why not pay it forward.
You can with any pipe and sawzaw blade and good string. Depending what you use it wouldnt be quote as good and long lasting as this guys, but it will work. Pvc pipe, twine and this sawblade could work. But Would it last a week or more? Probably not
@@skie6282 well why make it from pvc if you can get carbon fiber tube long enough for two of these for less than $10
@@jurcenko48 good point!
Same here, so where do I order?
I was going to make my own, buy you deserve the credit for the idea, so I just placed an order. Can’t wait to use it in a few weeks!
Great job! I’m excited to pick one up. That’s definitely going in my pack on our next trip.
I'm so glad I bought this saw when I did! Please bring it back for others. Possibly the best saw on the market
Hows it cut compared to a silky saw?
This saw cuts better than a silky saw, but I still carry my Silky in my pack as a backup in case of a catastrophic failure.
Just put some rubber heat shrink around the last couple inches of your tensioning line and it'll basically last forever and adds like 2 grams of weight... Awesome little saw handle
Awesome idea!
If you made the handle bigger and oval-shaped, it can act as a blade holder in your backpack. That way it isn't getting bent or stabbing your kidneys as you hike.
Or simply put a slit in the tube to fold in and cover most of the blade.
@@annoyedok321 Thats what I was thinking too. Just a slit, as long as the teeth are covered, then wrap the cord around it all.
@@whengrapespop5728 making it bigger would add oz to the overall weight making it " the most average weight backpacking saw" and putting a slit in the handle would ruin the whole structure of the saw making it weaker .
@@davidjd123 It wouldn’t make it bigger, just more compact. You might be right about the structure, though, unless the handle was made of steel.
@@davidjd123 if the blade can't be sheathed inside the handle then there's no point in making that handle as big as it is in the first place. Then could very well have cut the length in half, and therefore the weight of the handle in half, and it still would have functioned the exact same way as it does now. Makes no sense really.
Mine came in the mail today! Unbelievable! Thank you so much Alex & Joshua -KentheDuffer
LOVE IT!
Absolutely the best backpacking saw I've seen.
I need one of these and discovered them after they’ve been discontinued. That’s just unfortunate. Sweet, simple design.
Not only is that genius from a cost and durability standpoint, but you can attach all kinds of blades to it! Awesome
Exactly! 👍
Looks like the next saw option I'm going to try. Thank you
Love the idea and simple enough anyone can make their own.
As a construction worker and an outdoorsman... not only do I support this idea, I also can verify, those Diablo blades are wicked and do last a long time. I have wondered why those wood saws didn’t incorporate these types of blades. Great idea man. My suggestion fr covering the blade when carrying would be to carry a small piece of pipe with a cap on both ends that holds the blade and handle, maybe 1.5” pvc? Nice job man.
Awesome idea! Thank you!
Very nice! I use these blades everyday on the job site. Very durable!! Great idea!
Tenía años buscando algo así y es tan simple que es maravilloso. Muchas gracias.
This thing is an awesome idea, i have had a similar idea with the sheet rock saws were you can remove the blade. I have just ordered mine and i will review it for sure on my channel. Keep up the good work man.
Wow! Just.......... wow!
Perfect design!
That's an excellent idea. Rip saw blades are available everywhere and in wide varieties. You might look for a design where the blade folds into the handle.
I made a foldable one with a big electric hacksaw hss blade but it's heavier because I wanted the perk of cutting through nails and pieces of metal
This is absolute GENIUS!
Absolutely pure genius great job
Definitely a saw to have. Will be picking one up in the next couple of months!
Would love to see some of those knives you make for sale, in your store!
This is awesome my friend! It's such a simple and functional design! Well done! Thanks for sharing! 😊🌎✨
All you need is a small diameter piece of tube to carry it all! Or a wider handle with a split bushing to lock the saw blade in the ending, and a cap for the other end! Great idea!
Good stuff! Thanks
Bad ass man. Good work!
Just placed my order. This is brilliant design at its brightest. Well done.
Thank you for the support.🙏 We are doing our best to get them out as soon as possible 🙂
Well done! That’s pretty ingenious
Excellent build Alex. Well thought out. I hope all is well brother.
Thanks Justin! Hope all is well over there as well👍
Cool idea, not gonna buy one today but definitely put it in my- buy in the future wish list. And never heard of that string either so gonna Google that to
Just ordered one! Unbelievable idea this saw is a game changer
Thanks for the support 🙏👍
Brilliant idea
I am a HUGE fan of using reciprocating saw blades for backpacking and survival use. They are cheap, abundant and disposable (if you ever wear one out!) I prefer the Milwaukee 48-22-0305 Folding Jab Saw. I use an regular (non-carbide) pruning blade, and I used a Dremel tool to cut the blade short, so as to fold up. I love yours too!
Same here! The $30+ blade replacement cost of most saws is ridiculous. Thanks for the comment 👍👍
Great application of cordage, toggle and Diablo.
Yes I was gonna do my own and probably curb the pipe or add some other mods but dude, it's your idea and you deserve credit, so I'm buying.
Handles that take recip saw blades actually have been around for a while in the hardware department. Although, his is a nice design with quality materials and a long handle
Great idea mate 👍👍👍. I want one.
Very innovative thinking to produce this handle. The concept is useful and shouldn't be abandoned because of technical production difficulties. The "ultralight" requirement for backpacking constrains the design. Slightly heavier tool handle options can be designed with lightweight and hollow configurations. The weight of extra steel blades is actually a serious limiting factor. 1 long sabre blade and several jigsaw blades are a more adaptable carry option.
That's about the coolest lightweight saw I've ever seen.
Hey Alex. Just found this by accident. I am a long time sub on your other channel. Didn't know about this. Looks like a fantastic product. All the best.
Thanks for the support 👍🙏
Diablo blades are my fav. Nice idea
Great design. I went for the ghetto home depot 3/4 aluminum tube version since I had dyneema and a perfectly sized stainless steel ring lying around. Totally worth the cost if you don't have the parts lying around.
Wow great job
First impressions = Carbide teeth are a Huge benefit and the saw appears to cut super well . The tensioner device is interesting and the cordage could be replaced with wire . The handle is perfectly round , small diameter , with no blade to handle orientation . Friction tape could be used to increase the handle diameter and make it more comfortable for long term use .
I like the performance of this saw very much and there is no doubt a polymer handle could be injection molded for it . I need to order one of these and see how it goes . Thanks for a very unique design with appears to have structural integrity . All the best from a mechanical engineer .
The cordage works well. Its dyneema and has a 650lb break strength. Ive never broken one. Wire doesn't work well due to it having memory. You cant use different size sticks and once tensioned its very hard to un tension. In the beginning we offered a friction tape wrap for more grip but found most people didnt want it due to adding weight. The handle has a surprising amount of grip due to the way the carbon is wrapped, almost like snake scales. Plus the tensioning stick adds a t handle. Just some insight 🙂
Completely makes sense I've made homemade versions of this many times. Oh if I would have thought ahead.
Great idea. Its really handy for a small job if you don't want get the cord out. The cutting is done on the pull so it dosnt blow your arm out. Yours looks cooler so you got that going for you.
Do you have a picture or video of your version? Would be interesting to see.
if it makes you feel better, its not exactly a new idea. He is making a pretty nice high quality version ...but handles that uses standard recip saw blades have been around for a while in the hardware stores.
Also as a woodworker carbide does wear from hard woods after about 1 year of constant every day full day use😂 good material
SUPER super... SUPER .. thanks from italy
Pur genius!!!! I gotta have one !!!!!
GREAT IDEA
Impressive. 👍🏼👍🏼
Awsome video and great suggestions! You might consider diabo fleam ground high carbon steel. It should cut faster for a long time and might be worth the less effort and just replace when it becomes as hard to cut as the carbide tip.
I have no use for this but I watched it the whole way through. Very cool and I love the DIY nature of this thing.
Thanks for watching 👍🙏
@@knifepointgear5851 Are you guys active on outdoor forums?
I bet you could have a good add on item With an additional prepped blade/cotter pin.
no we try to stay away from the forums. Too hard to filter good from bad info🤷♂️ Not that there's anything wrong with it🙂 If you ever need any replacement rope/ cotter pin for a saw we will hook you up free of charge. Or we can sell you the blades with them already attached. you would just need to pay for shipping for the blade/ blades. 🙂
@@knifepointgear5851 this item is not targetted for me, but I did share it with a few friends. I gotta say I love the pure simplicity and design here.
dude awesome.
Brilliant! (Wish I thought of it.)
Pretty kool!🔥👍🔥
Great video and a pretty cool saw.
Thank you!🙏
Mine just got here today crazy cutting power insanely light and just looks B. A. had bahco Laplander I can't even compare will use all summer and give an update.
Thanks for the support!!
Ohhh,,,, sadness that's the exact saw I have, looks like a fiskers.
Now I've got goods reason to get a new one. Thanks Alex!!
👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
Those Diablo pruners are something special !
Got my 12" saw today. Put it through some work. I made a stick out of olive wood and decided to add a ferro rod to one end since the saw blade can strike it.
Wow sounds sweet 👍 Never though about using the blade for a striker since I always carry a knife. Thanks for the info👍👍
The first thing I thought of seeing this was using one of my little ferro rod toggles as a tensioner. I keep one on my pack anyway so I'm already carrying the weight. If I wasn't, they are only an additional 7 grams provided the one I have fits. What is the ID and OD of the tubing/ferrule?
Vise grips and a sawzall blade is what iv been using for years camping and some times to cut drywall or small trim at work
Dude..you are a genius..now, where do I buy one and extra string 🤔 ? Bush craft and back packers are gonna love this....Thanks Man
They are on the website 👍 We have extra rope if you need some👍
Awesome!!!!!
A locking pin is what they use in the reciprocating saws, you could drill a hole and use a small bolt
I use those blade all the time in my sawzall, they are awesome and last almost forever lol this is a genius idea 👍
Yeah they last forever on wood! And are $12 to replyif you do need a need one🙂
Brilliant
Is it a T shank blade? Amazing idea! I can see how a hunter or fisherman can use this to make an emergency shelter.
awesome.
awesome!
This is great, I can also see applications for field butchering of large game.
For sure! If your cutting bone id use a different blade with more teeth per inch. We can supply a better blade for that purpose if needed🙂
Sawsome!
I must confess that you've always made excellent videos. This is an absolute requirement for my bugout gear. Bravo
Geinous. Very radical idea and will put Silky out of business
Thanks
An old bicycle innertube can function as a sheath.
A guy put up a TH-cam video 10 months ago detailing how he made essentially the same thing as your saw using titanium tubing. He didn't say that it was his own idea, but didn't say that it wasn't. I'm betting on the latter. I saw this video last spring and brought a Diablo blade with the teeth on butt end of the blade ground down enough to not cut through the bicycle innertube that I wrapped it with to function as a grip. I used bike innertube
Comparison to some similarly-sized silky? the weight will be a big up-side with this saw, but strength and ease of use may be worth comparing
At first I thought it was ridiculous but if the handle was wide enough and long enough that the blade fit inside, this could be practical. Then spinning of the wood to tension the string was pretty cool.
Most (all?) backpacking saws that I have seen have had no "set" in the teeth. It's about time! :D
It'd be great to see a version of this in a folding configuration.
It does fold👍
@@knifepointgear5851
My bad.
Must have missed that part.
Those blades in my ridgid octane with orbital on blasts thru wood. Never thought of using the blade for a backpacking saw
Very cool set up. Is there a chance you can have blades made that cut on the down or push stroke, instead of the return or pull stroke that a sawzall uses for cutting? There's so much more cutting power when pushing down instead of pulling. Keep up the great work.
I respectfully disagree. Ive found you get more cutting power on the pull. You can buy pruning saw blades that will fit this saw that cut in both directions. This blade out cuts them almost 2-1. Thats just been my experience with push pull type saws. In the end, all being equal, the real difference is blade length. A 12" blade will out cut a 10" blade. A 15" blade will out cut a 12" and so on. 🙂
@@knifepointgear5851 Well you've used it, and I've only seen this video, so if you say you get better results pulling, then that's all that matters and I believe you. I was just curious, because all hand saws cut on the push or down stroke, and you lift the saw up slightly so you don't drag the teeth on the back or return or pull stroke. Sawzalls and jigsaws don't, because they're pulling against the base plate.
Pulling is probably better anyway. I mean if the saw were to get hung up on the push stroke, your hand could slide down that handle and onto that blade. I do carry one of those UGLY Sawzall blades, and that thing cuts pretty good, but there's no way it can hold up to carbide tip blades which will last forever at the speed of hand sawing.
Have you thought about maybe making one that's smaller and not so long?
I'm just thinking that this handle would be pretty nice and light to mount right on a knife sheath, but not with that long of a handle. Maybe something around 5 inches long would be great just for one handed use on small stuff. I have no need to cut anything much over 3 to 4 inches. I have one of those spec ops nylon sheaths with a plastic insert, and between the insert and nylon, I carry one of those Skil Ugly blades, and when I do need a saw, I just make a quick wooden handle and wire in the blade. It works, but this would be so much nicer and with little weight penalty.
Okay I'll give the blade a go but I think that I'll use my Stanley 15-333 saw handle
@@user-ib5mx8ro4k if nobody cares then somebody does care
Great video explaining and demonstrating your product. I get a kick out of what the “haters” have to say in the comments. I can imagine what they would say to the folks who brought us, “The Pet Rock,” The Couch Potato Doll,” or for that matter, bottle water. Yup, they didn’t listen to the naysayers and I hope you don’t either. Bottom line, if people like your product and feel the price is worth it, they’ll buy it. Wishing you much success!
Thanks for the kind words! I originally never intended to sell it. I just wanted the lightest option for my needs. Then a friend wanted one and so on. If just fits a very specific purpose🙂
Just off the start, I would use a Bic Lighter for the tensioning 'stick' and the handle looks a little narrow. Might be more difficult to hold if someone has big hands.
A lighter wont work. Need something stronger
I don’t have one, plan on getting one, however have you considered cutting a small slot in the aluminum and using a washer to tension?
I did...the aluminum will gull from the washer. The piece could be made from stainless just like the blade end but it would add about an once. I wanted to keep it under 4oz. In a pinch you can use a tent peg too. The wood works best though🙂
knifepointgear so the tension of the rope pulling the stick/blade together keeps the stick from “backing out” while it’s being used?
Yes, once tensioned it definitely cant go anywhere. The dyneema cord doesn't stretch whatsoever. So its very sold in use.
Solid*
Since you've discontinued it, would you be willing to share a few details on making it, specifically whether you used off the shelf or machined bushings?
I used custom machined bushings. The dimensions have to be very precise in order for the blade to work properly. The other end bushing that the "stick" twisted against also has to be made properly to keep it from unwinding after it's tightened. There was more that went into making it than it appears.🙂
Great saw, love mine!
But recently lost the cover...what was that?
Awe.. Sticccccckkkkk!
I’m getting one. I make mini Swedish stoves to cook with all the time. This will shorten the time and work to make one.
The handle being round, how hard is it to keep from rolling side to side? I was thinking a oval shape might provide better control and less hand fatigue.
Not really due to the tensioning stick. And once it's started the cut keeps it in line. Its made for two handed use. It lacks the mass needed @3.8oz to be great for single handed use. As one hand is needed to put pressure into the cut. Just one of the quarks of a 3.8oz saw🙂
@@knifepointgear5851 cool!
Better go with a serrated octagon handle with dual wrist straps.
@@JesusSaves86AB I actually was thinking of a hexadecagon with stippling. Serrations are for pussies.
@@knifepointgear5851 These people won't be happy until you make it ribbed for her pleasure. No need to improve it, the design is simple, light weight and not easily made because of the carbon fiber. Yes its expensive, but its a niche product for ultralight weight backpackers. Consider making a lower tier model that weighs more and is less expensive out of aluminum, then it will be more accessible to campers and casual hikers. Well done with this saw, can't wait to see what you make next. Subscribed and 👍.
Thank you for this presentation.
Why you choose this blade? Did you compared to other carbide teeth blades?
its just the fastest most aggressive blade and lasts forever. you can change the blade to something less aggressive if needed.
Love this product. Great idea. On a side note, What backpack is that?
Zpacks arc blast🙂
Definitely gonna get one, is that the biggest blade size you can put on it.
yes, biggest for these blades is 12"
Very useful, even better if it could hold hacksaw blades and jigsaw blades. Back of sabre saw blade could be a knife edge for double duty.Some Paracord materials do not stretch.
Looks like a very effective saw. Could you compare it to a silky or bacho folding saw. Nice review. Very in depth and helpful for general knowledge.
I was also wondering if I could use soybean oil for quenching 1080 or 1084 instead of canola oil?
I dont know. A lot of testing has been done with canola. Not sure about soybean oil..
Wonder if a chain masterlink would work to attach the blade
Whoa I didn't even know this channel existed
Making one on my next day off.
Super easy. I made one from an old 5 iron shaft and some bank line. Works great and very light. Made a sheath for it from some scrap leather and a plastic milk jug to line the inside. Went through a 4" piece of hard wood just fine. Can't wait to take it out in the woods. I'm going to make a pouch so I can take it down and carry it in my pack. Saved myself $55 - $60!
Well thought out piece of gear. Wish you had given us the cost though. Carbide tipped blades are the only way to go on any saw blades IMO. 👍 Oh, where is that zing-it cord found?
Just search dyneema