It was so good to hear this again and to follow the score. I hadn't heard it since I saw John Ogdon play it in London in 1987, brought back memories of his titanic performance, thank you so much.
Yes you can say it lacks restraint and good taste and even a reason for being, but you can't say it's not a lot of fun. As an encore at the end of a recital it'd bring the house down! Beautifully played here, even if it seems to be on the piano Winifred Atwell said "no" to.
Ah! So many armchair critics are here and, such shocking ingratitude! How tough it is, seemingly, to dip our ever-up-pointing noses below the superficial/obvious. I knew this Ampico record-roll existed but hadn't heard it 'till now. Here Nyiregyhazi was only in his mid-twenties when he made it. He and Grainger were both non-conforming rebels, so I guess Nyiregyhazi detected within his paraphrase a kindred spirit, and went with it, the results being fascinating to the clear-of-mind. Thanks -- thenameisgsarci -- for for going to the time and trouble to make it available for our hearing. : | :
What a fine example of the pinnacle of almost Medtnerian harmonic complexity. Why do we live in such inopportune times when masterpieces of equal scale are never conceived?
The Volodos paraphrase of the Turkish March of Mozart is not bad, you know. I played it recently in concert in front of 1500 people, they loved it ! Just go see it !
The Volodos paraphrase of the Turkish March is a paraphrase as this Grainger paraphrase of the Waltz of Flower is. This kind of compositions began with Franz Liszt, and were very much a fashion in the beginning of the 20th century. Volodos did a return to that fashion. Those pieces are very much showy pieces, very amusing for a public. They are doing much effect on the public, and are very interesting on the inventive side of what can be done with music. A colleague would like very much that I play this paraphrase in concert. I'm thinking about that now, and I have the sheets in hands now.
Some information about the Ampico instrument would be welcome. I am well familiar with the roll and the tempo seems a bit fast. You might consider posting Grainger's own performance on Duo-Art, although I prefer Nyiregihazi's.
I don't know if we speak of the same spot, but at some places, I've seen the harmonization can be re-arranged, putting the tenth in the left hand, with more space for doing an arpegiation, same thing 2 times. I'm just beginning to look at it, as I will have to play in concert in 8 months.
A lushly over-the-top Christmas time show-off piece - if you are a pianist who can pull it off. It must be played shamelessly, straight-faced, while wearing a velour or velveteen waistcoat (polyester in a pinch).
The arrangement is like a hallucinogenic trip…but I sort of like it. The only thing I would have told Grainger to cut out are the cadenzas he chose for the introduction of the waltz. Other than that, it’s a very enjoyable ride.
Unfortunately, the Ampico mechanism omits the ability to play low A (which this arrangement employs many times) as well as low A#. The absence of the highest A (occurs twice in the score) is a bit more perplexing as the Ampico will play this note (the last one in its range), but the Ampico roll editors must have decided, for some reason, to omit it. A bad call IMHO as the ear definitely anticipates hearing it. Both notes are absent in the Grainer Duo-Art roll performance (#6085, 12/1918) as the Duo-Art compass is even more truncated than the Ampico (eight notes vs. five.)
Should be entitled 'Exaggeration and Mutilations on a Theme' - the sort of thing Liszt would do to other composers' works. Pianistically brilliant if rather overblown.
While I understand what Grainger is doing harmonically, nonetheless, the piece is over-written, over-worked, the melody muddled. Beautifully played, though.
thenameisgsarci So it' s some sort of virtuosistic improvisation on the original piece? What' s the point... the original piece of Tchaikovsky has a totally different vibe... Also the structure of this sort of improvisation has no structure at all, the harmony follows no path, everything is so... Chaotic. It' s like somebody did put on paper something that was never meant to... this is some kind of quick outburst of anger, very aggressive. I don' t feel like Tchaikovsky' s piece deserves this treatment, it' s not his fault if the piece became so much popular, his intention wasn' t to create something of low value when composing the Nutcracker suite.
@@terryss95 you realize this was not written to maintain the beautiful nature of Tchaikovsky's original waltz its a paraphrase for fucks sake he's not fucking killing waltz of the flowers
Nobody:
Percy Grainger: So anyways, I started paraphrasing.
Anyone that can make Tchaikovsky sound *more* impressive is a legend in my book.
I must say this has made my left hand very mellow
This feels like a mashup of Waltz of the Flowers and Liszt's Mazeppa etude
This is an insanely good performance
I thought I knew almost everything by Grainger - a great discovery. Mad as a hatter, and wonderful !
It was so good to hear this again and to follow the score.
I hadn't heard it since I saw John Ogdon play it in London in 1987, brought back memories of his titanic performance, thank you so much.
THE BEST PIANIST IN THE WORLD.NO ONE IS LIKE HIM.O MY GOD.PERFECTION
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Yes you can say it lacks restraint and good taste and even a reason for being, but you can't say it's not a lot of fun. As an encore at the end of a recital it'd bring the house down!
Beautifully played here, even if it seems to be on the piano Winifred Atwell said "no" to.
Ah! So many armchair critics are here and, such shocking ingratitude!
How tough it is, seemingly, to dip our ever-up-pointing noses below the superficial/obvious.
I knew this Ampico record-roll existed but hadn't heard it 'till now.
Here Nyiregyhazi was only in his mid-twenties when he made it. He and Grainger were both non-conforming rebels, so I guess Nyiregyhazi detected within his paraphrase a kindred spirit, and went with it, the results being fascinating to the clear-of-mind.
Thanks -- thenameisgsarci -- for for going to the time and trouble to make it available for our hearing.
: | :
Thanks for your kind words. :)
His inner voices are always insane...
Grainger was trying to rock and roll and shred his way to Christmas
Oh god... I don,t know how to explain.. so wonderful playing....
Best arrangement of this piece
fascinating. I know this performer Nyiregyhazi (quite an unknown) from his mind boggling performance of Liszt's vallee d'obermann
A totaly surprising work for me! Bravo.
Sounds like a well maintained East End pub piano................................................................
Браво блестяще сыграл виртуозно
Obese work, something I really like
What a fine example of the pinnacle of almost Medtnerian harmonic complexity. Why do we live in such inopportune times when masterpieces of equal scale are never conceived?
The Volodos paraphrase of the Turkish March of Mozart is not bad, you know. I played it recently in concert in front of 1500 people, they loved it ! Just go see it !
Anne-Marie Dubois What does The Turkish March have to do with anything? or your playing it in front of 1500 people? boast much?
The Volodos paraphrase of the Turkish March is a paraphrase as this Grainger paraphrase of the Waltz of Flower is. This kind of compositions began with Franz Liszt, and were very much a fashion in the beginning of the 20th century. Volodos did a return to that fashion. Those pieces are very much showy pieces, very amusing for a public. They are doing much effect on the public, and are very interesting on the inventive side of what can be done with music. A colleague would like very much that I play this paraphrase in concert. I'm thinking about that now, and I have the sheets in hands now.
There is black midi you know, for people that sometimes just want to watch the world burn.
Weird how you wait till the very end of all that info to tell who the amazing pianist is.
The elements of patience and surprise, my friend. :)
Recorded on a fine King Edward. Wonderful arrangement and playing though!
One of Grainger's Ampico rolls.
Some information about the Ampico instrument would be welcome. I am well familiar with the roll and the tempo seems a bit fast. You might consider posting Grainger's own performance on Duo-Art, although I prefer Nyiregihazi's.
Nyiregihazi forever.
The piano gave up.
Listen to Hungarian rhapsody no.2 the piano gives up o that one
@@teamtaken1850 yup, this one too though
@@teamtaken1850 Listen to Cziffra's arrangiament on Tritsch Tratsch Polka or on Flight of the Bumblebee
@@Marcymmx honestly anything by cziffra LOL
@@brianbrennaman5655 Yeah, you're right.
holy shit those fast 10ths
I don't know if we speak of the same spot, but at some places, I've seen the harmonization can be re-arranged, putting the tenth in the left hand, with more space for doing an arpegiation, same thing 2 times. I'm just beginning to look at it, as I will have to play in concert in 8 months.
How was the concert?
A lushly over-the-top Christmas time show-off piece - if you are a pianist who can pull it off. It must be played shamelessly, straight-faced, while wearing a velour or velveteen waistcoat (polyester in a pinch).
Roll that beautiful bean footage.
he gets it
WOW, is that really playable?!?!
2:00
The arrangement is like a hallucinogenic trip…but I sort of like it. The only thing I would have told Grainger to cut out are the cadenzas he chose for the introduction of the waltz. Other than that, it’s a very enjoyable ride.
5:53 _"FAST"_
Go home, Waltz of the Flowers. You are drunk (and ended suspiciously like Hungarian Rhap. #2)
Hungarian Rhap. #2? How so? (Unless it's the alternating-hand octaves, which are a common enough cliché.)
@@rosiefay7283 ngiueh, it's about the virtuosity that distinguishes it from the original
Sounds like not only couldn't they get a piano-tuner, but somebody had filched some of the lowest notes' strings.
Gives a bit of spice
Unfortunately, the Ampico mechanism omits the ability to play low A (which this arrangement employs many times) as well as low A#. The absence of the highest A (occurs twice in the score) is a bit more perplexing as the Ampico will play this note (the last one in its range), but the Ampico roll editors must have decided, for some reason, to omit it. A bad call IMHO as the ear definitely anticipates hearing it. Both notes are absent in the Grainer Duo-Art roll performance (#6085, 12/1918) as the Duo-Art compass is even more truncated than the Ampico (eight notes vs. five.)
Wait what?....is this actually Nyiregyházi playing? Seriously!?
Yea…it’s ampico roll
If you want a beautiful advanced piano solo arrangement, check out Karen Kornienko's Waltz of the Flowers.
sound so new york :)
Grainger reinventing the wheel
So well played, however, must have been recorded during the height of a lockdown, as no piano tuner available? But you had been practising!
Wait, what?
He didn't perform this. Check the end of the video's description.
Yes, covid lockdown was 6 years ago
For the people who claim Nyiregyhazi was a bad pianist... refer them to this.
I like this a lot actually. But going by this comment section, that makes me a bit of a nutjob...
Welcome to the asylum.
Once you get used to Godowsky's unbelievably complex paraphrases, everyone else's paraphrases seem so undeveloped.
the symphonic metamorphoses make everything pale in comparison
Why Liszt did not do any paraphrase of Tschaikovsky works...
Hmmm, good question.
Ah, wait, he did just one piano transcription from Tchaikovsky, which is his Polonaise from Eugene Onegin, to which Tchaikovsky disliked.
This article is a goldmine: en.tchaikovsky-research.net/pages/Franz_Liszt
thenameisgsarci thank you!😊
thenameisgsarci this text appears to be very good! Thank you for kindly taking your time to post it!
Okay, bullshit.. But don't forget that this is made by a genius!
OMG ! 😱😱😂👍
jazz tchaikovsky be like
Should be entitled 'Exaggeration and Mutilations on a Theme' - the sort of thing Liszt would do to other composers' works. Pianistically brilliant if rather overblown.
The guy's just a mad lad
the arrangement is wrong. The 2nd half of the horns..the note is an f double sharp..not f#
Bar 63
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Very Lisztian.
No.
Yes, But in a very light English music way!!
Very Pabstian.
Waltz of the four-year-olds
Sounds like Art Tatum.
While I understand what Grainger is doing harmonically, nonetheless, the piece is over-written, over-worked, the melody muddled. Beautifully played, though.
gonna have to agree with this comment. it's the wrong kind of virtuosic
lilaznnerd69 THIS.
What the hell is this?
The title says "Waltz of the Flowers", the title is misleading!
It's a paraphrase.
thenameisgsarci
So it' s some sort of virtuosistic improvisation on the original piece?
What' s the point... the original piece of Tchaikovsky has a totally different vibe...
Also the structure of this sort of improvisation has no structure at all, the harmony follows no path, everything is so... Chaotic.
It' s like somebody did put on paper something that was never meant to... this is some kind of quick outburst of anger, very aggressive.
I don' t feel like Tchaikovsky' s piece deserves this treatment, it' s not his fault if the piece became so much popular, his intention wasn' t to create something of low value when composing the Nutcracker suite.
Yup you got it.
@@terryss95 you realize this was not written to maintain the beautiful nature of Tchaikovsky's original waltz its a paraphrase for fucks sake he's not fucking killing waltz of the flowers
I hate this. Waltz of the flowers is so damn pretty. This is practically a crime against humanity. :/
OK, calm down, no need to call UN headquarters...
+Emily La You just have to get used to Liszt and his school of performers
I like ffff music with tone clusters, but I don't get the point of virtuosifying Tchaikovsky's pretty music.
Some people just like watching the world burn
haha I find this pretty though!
Not even close to Tchaikovsky.
Much much better !
This is fun but like not very well written and horribly played, needless to say I still enjoyed it
What universe are you living in if this is “horribly played?”
This is perfectly played... Nyiregyhazi is the best pianist in the world
This is played as best as it can be
@@bloba6969 I disagree