The Jedi lightsabers was from Smylo Ren's armor... it is made of a material called Cortosis... it is from old stories ... it messes with energy weapons.
Thanks, that is a nice piece of insight. I found the info online googling Cortosis, that it is not as durable as Baskar, so I guess that explains why Qimir could take a hit with a lightsaber to his helmet, but Jecky could still break it (which puzzled me a bit). So thanks for bringing that up 😊
I disagree about Qimir and the whole "Jedi = oppressors" narrative. He says he wants to use the Force freely, what he means is PRECISELY "EVIL". You cannot draw that real world "minority" parallel with the Jedi and the Sith. In SW Universe the Force is very real and very dangerous if used "freely", without hard dogmas. Novice and even advanced (and many masters) Force users simply don't have the understanding, the balance and the ethics to decide their own rules. The Jedi Order has stood in place for 25k years, they've just gradually grown complacent in the last 1k years but they are by no means evil. Like in the Clone Wars s7 episode where a bus-ship got crashed by a Jedi into a homestead killing like 3 people to save 100+. That's a hard choice and ofc that one family survivors will view the Jedi as evil, but they'd be wrong. I can't wait to see how that Coven thing played out and where all that guilt was coming from. But even in the worst case, the Jedi Order are without question the good guys when it comes to institutions and not just individuals. One last point, you cannot just "control" the Force and use dark powers without eventually falling into the Dark Side and becoming evil. That's just a lie dark Jedi/Sith tell themselves, but how many successful "Neutral" Force users have we seen? For better or for worse, the Force IS black or white.
Thanks for commenting. Some interesting points there. For me, right now the best parallel would be the Sokovia Accords in the MCU - where you are forced to register or get imprisoned. I mean, for sure Qimir is the bad guy right now, basically being a terrorist. All I mean is I think his motivation is interesting and somewhat understandable. Maybe he wouldn't have turned out that way if he could have lived in the open. It is a tough one for sure, but that is why I like this show, as it shines a light on those grey areas. I quick counterpoint, though: Ezra Bridger was dabbling with the dark side and didn't succumb to it, so there may be a middle ground after all.
@@MichasBreakdown I understand your point and generally I would tend to agree with Qimir's point of view being understandable (it's definitely interesting). But one has to be pretty adamant (dogmatic?) on this. The whole point of the Dark Side is to come up with believable excuses. The Ezra example is perfect: even ignoring the fact that his Dark Side period was a bit of a fanservice, it's not unheard of for darksiders to be redemeed. We've seen Ventress and even Vader. But the point is you can't keep using the Dark Side "for good" and stay good. Besides they might just be exceptions. I think it's very alluring to find alibis and motivations (which might be real) for Dark Side users but we gotta remember that in SW Good and Evil are very real and the Dark Side is indeed Evil. Back to Rebels, the Bendu tried to stand in between and Ezra himself schooled him about the importance of picking a side.
What I really would like to see is if there really is only the light and dark side of the force - or if there is something in between people like Qimir could have leaned into (if he would have chosen to go dark to rebel against the current system). Admittedly, I don't know all the lore and and backstories from books and such, so maybe that is already covered somewhere - but I really think those topics are the most interesting.
@@MichasBreakdown I don't know 100% of the lore either and either way some aspects of the Force are still up for debate. However there are often misconceptions (some in bad faith) about this "middle ground" and "balance between Light and Dark" There is no "Light Side". There is the Force and there is the Dark Side, the corruption of the Force. The Force itself IS the balance, and the Jedi, by following the will of the Force are in balance. That's why the theory of Anakin restoring balance to the Force by killing the Jedi was pretty quickly debunked. Qimir would still end up evil (well he's clearly evil already) even if at start he really just wanted freedom. The power of the Force without the counterbalance of rules ("dogmas") and ethics will inevitably corrupt the user. One has to master their emotions first, the Force second. It's literally like if you had superpowers without VERY solid moral values. It's not stuff for the "common folk", you have to be trained for years.
I totally get your point. Still interested in seeing what they do with it and if they shine a bit of light on the grey areas - which they seem to have done with the next chapter. Interesting stuff for sure.
The Jedi lightsabers was from Smylo Ren's armor... it is made of a material called Cortosis... it is from old stories ... it messes with energy weapons.
Thanks, that is a nice piece of insight. I found the info online googling Cortosis, that it is not as durable as Baskar, so I guess that explains why Qimir could take a hit with a lightsaber to his helmet, but Jecky could still break it (which puzzled me a bit). So thanks for bringing that up 😊
I disagree about Qimir and the whole "Jedi = oppressors" narrative. He says he wants to use the Force freely, what he means is PRECISELY "EVIL".
You cannot draw that real world "minority" parallel with the Jedi and the Sith. In SW Universe the Force is very real and very dangerous if used "freely", without hard dogmas.
Novice and even advanced (and many masters) Force users simply don't have the understanding, the balance and the ethics to decide their own rules. The Jedi Order has stood in place for 25k years, they've just gradually grown complacent in the last 1k years but they are by no means evil.
Like in the Clone Wars s7 episode where a bus-ship got crashed by a Jedi into a homestead killing like 3 people to save 100+. That's a hard choice and ofc that one family survivors will view the Jedi as evil, but they'd be wrong.
I can't wait to see how that Coven thing played out and where all that guilt was coming from. But even in the worst case, the Jedi Order are without question the good guys when it comes to institutions and not just individuals.
One last point, you cannot just "control" the Force and use dark powers without eventually falling into the Dark Side and becoming evil. That's just a lie dark Jedi/Sith tell themselves, but how many successful "Neutral" Force users have we seen?
For better or for worse, the Force IS black or white.
Thanks for commenting. Some interesting points there. For me, right now the best parallel would be the Sokovia Accords in the MCU - where you are forced to register or get imprisoned. I mean, for sure Qimir is the bad guy right now, basically being a terrorist. All I mean is I think his motivation is interesting and somewhat understandable. Maybe he wouldn't have turned out that way if he could have lived in the open. It is a tough one for sure, but that is why I like this show, as it shines a light on those grey areas.
I quick counterpoint, though: Ezra Bridger was dabbling with the dark side and didn't succumb to it, so there may be a middle ground after all.
@@MichasBreakdown I understand your point and generally I would tend to agree with Qimir's point of view being understandable (it's definitely interesting).
But one has to be pretty adamant (dogmatic?) on this.
The whole point of the Dark Side is to come up with believable excuses.
The Ezra example is perfect: even ignoring the fact that his Dark Side period was a bit of a fanservice, it's not unheard of for darksiders to be redemeed. We've seen Ventress and even Vader.
But the point is you can't keep using the Dark Side "for good" and stay good. Besides they might just be exceptions.
I think it's very alluring to find alibis and motivations (which might be real) for Dark Side users but we gotta remember that in SW Good and Evil are very real and the Dark Side is indeed Evil.
Back to Rebels, the Bendu tried to stand in between and Ezra himself schooled him about the importance of picking a side.
What I really would like to see is if there really is only the light and dark side of the force - or if there is something in between people like Qimir could have leaned into (if he would have chosen to go dark to rebel against the current system). Admittedly, I don't know all the lore and and backstories from books and such, so maybe that is already covered somewhere - but I really think those topics are the most interesting.
@@MichasBreakdown I don't know 100% of the lore either and either way some aspects of the Force are still up for debate.
However there are often misconceptions (some in bad faith) about this "middle ground" and "balance between Light and Dark"
There is no "Light Side".
There is the Force and there is the Dark Side, the corruption of the Force.
The Force itself IS the balance, and the Jedi, by following the will of the Force are in balance.
That's why the theory of Anakin restoring balance to the Force by killing the Jedi was pretty quickly debunked.
Qimir would still end up evil (well he's clearly evil already) even if at start he really just wanted freedom.
The power of the Force without the counterbalance of rules ("dogmas") and ethics will inevitably corrupt the user. One has to master their emotions first, the Force second.
It's literally like if you had superpowers without VERY solid moral values. It's not stuff for the "common folk", you have to be trained for years.
I totally get your point. Still interested in seeing what they do with it and if they shine a bit of light on the grey areas - which they seem to have done with the next chapter. Interesting stuff for sure.