Hot take: Ultron is the top of S tier. He’s menacing as hell, that Black Widow scene where he rips himself in half. Goated. He’s got that complex juxtaposition that he’s got the internet’s entire intelligence but still naive in his solution. After all, he was born yesterday. And lastly he’s got that Stark charm. I think if he had an extra day to prep his plan, the Avenger’s would’ve been toast.
This is sooo strange! Like, the MCU is know for being good with forgettable villains... And there's more S-tiers than D and F. And adding non-villains as villains... Like, Ross? A villain? Really? I bet this guys give 8-10 (from 0-10) for every movie ever!
As someone with celiac, it's great to have jelly beans without gluten. They use it as filler. Most licorice also has gluten in it. It was fun seeing your rankings.
Baron Zemo succeeded in destroying the Avengers and he was morally grey in his motivations. Kilgrave is deliciously evil. Them not being 1 and 2 in S tier is a crime.
I've always said Marvel's biggest mistake in this universe is getting rid of the villains way too soon. Some of them could have definitely used more than one movie to do their thing. Makaleth is a great example.
Even before we found Keaton was the Vulture, he scared me as the dad of Peter's date, he has those really good evil eyes. Kilgrave needs to be high A, scary af !
Agatha got beat because she got way too confident, and underestimated how much wanda was listening, i truly feel she actually believed wanda was missing shots
You said after 1:19:10 "you have to look at the effect that these villains have on, like, on, the bigger picture" And never once. Did any of y'all consider that crossbones triggered the socovia Accords
Confused by the lack of Netflix villains on the list, despite Kilgrave and Cottonmouth being here. No Bullseye? No Hellcat, Elektra, Madame Gao? I’d expect to have seen at least Bullseye here.
The criteria for ranking was all over the place lol. Love you guys, but Justin Hammer so high up? He was a joke and all of his plans went wrong. His tech didn’t work at times. He lost control to Whiplash. So if how successful they were was important, no way he’s that high up lol.
Everyone’s got different criteria, but what makes him such a great villain is also how ENTERTAINING he is to watch. He’s such a loser, it’s great to watch him lose, lol.
Kill grave is 100 percent s tier and though it's a really tough decision he is definitely at least in the running for the greatest villian in marvel live action
Kilgrave. I still to this day am not sure exactly HOW he lost. He is easily the most terrifying and one of the most evil villains with a power that is OP. What if he told Spiderman to kill MJ? Literally how is he NOT high S Tier?
12:50 support other coffee houses, avoid Starbucks. Eat the rich 48:30 Maybe Surtur should be A teir. He actually succeeded! How many other villains "won"? 01:15:50 I wish Marvel would have better used Christian Bale. God butcher did not butcher in the movie
Y’all are SMOKING for even CONSIDERING Thanos as anything other than the TOP S tier villain. 😂😂😂 The way the man two-pieced Hulk into submission in Infinity War deserves S tier consideration alone.
scarlet witch being that much higher than ultron is just insane to me, age of ultron is amazing and people that hate it are children. its the only mcu movie where the avengers are a team from start to finish.
She keeps talking about the evolution of a character but the poll was them as a villian! Remove the character arch and just focus on the time of them during peak bad.
Whoa whoa whoa... Wenwu is so so so much higher than Hella. Hella was a goof ball with no empathy and a penchant for murder. That's it. Go back and watch the emotions on Wenwu's face both in the flashbacks when he is with his wife and say the end of the movie when he's arguing with his son at the gate... So good. He's almost at the top of S tier.
I still have a hard time with accepting MBJ as Kilmonger. His dialogue did not match what I would expect from an MIT grad/Navy Seal and adjacent Chad Boseman (R.I.P.) he seemed kind of low intelligence and thuggish. Maybe A tier not S. Just my opinion.
Erik Stevens was a brilliant character, written incredibly smart, and acted that way too, from Micheal B. Jordan. If you felt he was “low intelligence” and “thuggish”, I think that’s a sign you should look inward and ask why. If you weren’t aware, the use of the word “thug” is often associated with people who are making an effort to diminish or delegitimize the accomplishments or efforts of a black man.
Evan: Hey guys we need to hurry Jacki: Back when I was a girl... Jacki: Did y'all see that vampire movie... Jacki: Why didn't Secret Invasion work... Jacki: We're being so mean to the F-tier
@@hectorminator I don’t think he’s “bad” by any means - Michael B was excellent - I would just need more than just a comment section to fully explain my thought process 😂
I'm sorry electro should not have even been in the movie always had an issue with that. 1 he didn't even know who Spider-Man was. So I say he should have been a D
I disagree on John Walker. He has anger and other emotional issues which caused him to make some bad choices for sure, but he is not a villian at all. A misguided anti-hero maybe.
His anger and emotional issues that led to his choices makes him a villain, like other villains who also make mistakes and let their anger or emotional issues get the best of them. Walker’s problem is also that he believes he *deserved* the shield, which a real Captain America would never think.
@@hectorminator take what you will from what I said I just never liked the "coming up in this episode" not just from this but from TV shows and all that. Supposed to be a way to hook people in? Ehhh idk it bugs me.
Now I just want to see John’s list by himself.
Me too!
Yes
I want to share mine with John so we can be annoyed by each other's lists, lol.
Watching videos like this is such a refreshing reminder that people still love the MCU. Hearing your opinions with such conviction is so much fun.
I feel like Mysterio wouldn’t have gotta as far as he did if the real Fury was on Earth
Hot take: Ultron is the top of S tier. He’s menacing as hell, that Black Widow scene where he rips himself in half. Goated.
He’s got that complex juxtaposition that he’s got the internet’s entire intelligence but still naive in his solution. After all, he was born yesterday.
And lastly he’s got that Stark charm. I think if he had an extra day to prep his plan, the Avenger’s would’ve been toast.
I'm 35 minute through this and I've gotta say this is easily one of the most painful tier lists I've ever watched
Up to that point I was like “huh?” But at that exact point I was like “what the hell is going on?!?”
“Painful”. LOL Relax, buddy, it ain’t that serious.
i literally died bruh@@hectorminator
I’m at 12:42 and I feel the same lol
This is sooo strange! Like, the MCU is know for being good with forgettable villains... And there's more S-tiers than D and F. And adding non-villains as villains... Like, Ross? A villain? Really? I bet this guys give 8-10 (from 0-10) for every movie ever!
When you have Jacki and Hector on a panel you know it's gonna be a good one
Really I thought jacki was the only one bringing gender into it? and hector is alright if you don't disagree with him
@@RoutineflexI actually agree with you
Your take on mysterio is nuts, he manipulated the hell out of Peter! And he outed him to the world! Was awesome, low A easily
As someone with celiac, it's great to have jelly beans without gluten. They use it as filler. Most licorice also has gluten in it.
It was fun seeing your rankings.
Buyers beware, they are not animal cruelty free/vegan though, only vegetarian.
Celiacs unite!
I love how almost an hour in, John's suddenly getting bleeped during his departure rant. 😂
Kilgrave? Not S? Nah.
Kilgrave was S tier of the human villians but idk if he's god level.
Ngl kinda lost all credibility for that c ranking
A few people are criminally low, and they barely discuss it when they do
yeah… literally the best mcu villain in my opinion
Kilgrave should have been higher. He was definitely a terrifying villain. I wish marvel didn’t kill most of the villains at the end of the movie/show.
I need to see Johns ranking list!!
The green goblin in no way home was ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING. Such an amazing villain. S tier for sure!
SS - Thanos
TOP S - Kingpin, Zemo, Loki, Killmonger
MID S - Green Goblin, Scarlet Witch, Kilgrave
LOW S - Hela, Winter Soldier, Red Skull
I like this!
Exactly. Nailed it.
I just noticed the Breakroom logo on the brick wall that looks awesome!!
Baron Zemo succeeded in destroying the Avengers and he was morally grey in his motivations. Kilgrave is deliciously evil. Them not being 1 and 2 in S tier is a crime.
I def agree! At least top 5
Agree!
Jessica Jones: Kilgrave can make you kill others or yourself with just one word from his mouth.
Scarlet Witch: What mouth?
LOVE THIS
By Agatha standards The Winter Soldier really is the highest tier.
He got a movie AND streaming show named after him in the MCU!
Thaddeus Ross wasnt a villan, more of a antagonist.
He's definitely a villain in Incredible Hulk, imo.
6:30 - Red Skull
9:07 - Yon-Rogg
12:01 - Obadiah Stane / Iron Monger
15:07 - Justin Hammer
16:05 - Ivan Vanko / Whiplash
16:59 - Emil Blonsky / Abomination
17:52 - Thaddeus Ross
20:05 - Loki
21:09 - Malekith the Accursed
22:06 - Aldrich Killian
23:27 - Trevor Slattery / The Mandarin
26:08 - Bucky Barnes / Winter Soldier
27:41 - Alexander Pierce
29:28 - Arnim Zola
32:26 - Ronan the Accuser
33:23 - Korath the Pursuer
33:42 - Ego the Living Planet
34:49 - Zebediah Killgrave / The Purple Man
36:17 - Ultron
38:26 - Cornell Stokes / Cottonmouth
39:02 - Brock Rumlow / Crossbones
39:50 - Dreykov
40:38 - Taskmaster
42:17 - Erik (N'Jadaka) Stevens / Killmonger
43:18 - Ulysses Klaue / Klaw
44:14 - Adrian Toomes / Vulture
45:07 - Herman Schultz / Shocker
45:37 - Kaecilius
46:04 - Dormammu
46:46 - Hela
47:32 - Grandmaster
48:36 - Surtur
48:56 - Ava Starr / Ghost
49:28 - Sonny Burch
50:09 - Thanos (Infinity War)
51:35 - Thanos (End Game)
54:20 - He Who Remains
55:45 - Agatha Harkness
57:03 - Xu Wenwu
59:30 - John Walker / U.S.Agent / Captain Mayonnaise
1:00:18 - Karli Morgenthau
1:01:11 - Helmut Zemo
1:02:37 - Quentin Beck / Mysterio
1:05:14 - Ikaris
1:05:59 - Otto Octavius / Doc Ock
1:06:54 - Maxwell "Max" Dillon / Electro
1:07:39 - Dr "Curt" Connors / Lizard
1:08:11 - Flint Marko / Sandman
1:08:27 - Norman Osborn / Green Goblin
1:09:32 - Wanda Maximoff / Scarlet Witch
1:10:52 - Arthur Harrow
1:11:32 - King Ch'ah Toh Almehen / Namor
1:12:53 - Wilson Fisk / Kingpin
1:14:12 - Todd Phelps / HulkKing
1:14:54 - Gorr the God Butcher
1:16:10 - Kang the Conqueror (Quantumania)
1:17:19 - Darren Cross / M.O.D.O.K. / Yellowjacket
1:18:30 - High Evolutionary
1:20:26 - Gravik
1:21:10 - Dar-Benn
1:21:58 - Reflections & End Discussion
I've always said Marvel's biggest mistake in this universe is getting rid of the villains way too soon. Some of them could have definitely used more than one movie to do their thing. Makaleth is a great example.
It's not even getting rid of them as much as leaving them alive to never return! It's annoying
I love seeing the image of the character on screen while being discussed ! Seeing which image is selected by producers is always fun
I love seeing Jacki and Hector together, needing out! Please more of them together! Thank you!!
Even before we found Keaton was the Vulture, he scared me as the dad of Peter's date, he has those really good evil eyes. Kilgrave needs to be high A, scary af !
Agatha got beat because she got way too confident, and underestimated how much wanda was listening, i truly feel she actually believed wanda was missing shots
You said after 1:19:10 "you have to look at the effect that these villains have on, like, on, the bigger picture" And never once. Did any of y'all consider that crossbones triggered the socovia Accords
This felt like just Hectors list for me. I wish John stayed on. No disrespect to Evan though, he’s great!
I would have done a BUNCH of these differently!
51:18 we really keep forgetting this point sometimes but it’s soo facts
My dad really texted me!
@@hectorminatoroh I believe it everybody left my theater without a word !!
I need to rewatch Iron Man 2 with how everyone is so high on Justin Hammer as a villian
37:25 "can we do world aesthetics?!" Yes please!!
I think this is one of the most frustrating New Rockstars videos I’ve ever watched 😂
This list is based on the actors not the characters in the mcu
I love when i pick the right ranking as you, i haven't seen half of them. Lol
John rankings be like “I want to put air low c tier as something vital to live, but I’ll put it A tier”
Killmonger completed his "task" as well. He wanted Wakanda to step up and help the disenfranchised and T'Challa does so at the end of the movie.
Great show!
Confused by the lack of Netflix villains on the list, despite Kilgrave and Cottonmouth being here. No Bullseye? No Hellcat, Elektra, Madame Gao? I’d expect to have seen at least Bullseye here.
All great characters, I had to narrow it down to 60.
@@hectorminator respect
The longer these videos are, the better. Stop trying to rush through tier lists!
Enjoyed this so much! Would love to see the Romantic Partners ranked!!!!
THANKS for this!!!!!
The criteria for ranking was all over the place lol. Love you guys, but Justin Hammer so high up? He was a joke and all of his plans went wrong. His tech didn’t work at times. He lost control to Whiplash. So if how successful they were was important, no way he’s that high up lol.
Everyone’s got different criteria, but what makes him such a great villain is also how ENTERTAINING he is to watch. He’s such a loser, it’s great to watch him lose, lol.
@@hectorminator agreed. He was great in What If too. Would love to see him back in Armor Wars if that ever actually happens.
The midshow prodcuer swap 😂 epic
this was Hector's Tier list lol
Kill grave is 100 percent s tier and though it's a really tough decision he is definitely at least in the running for the greatest villian in marvel live action
I’m with John on those first two villains
Brutal!
hector is so funny
Thanks!
theres so many weird takes here, you lost me at "The Mandarin".
I stand w Brandon and Hector
Really though someone needs to be the heel
Grant Ward (pre-Hive) would beat out half that S tier. If that spoils people, whatever... Maybe you shoulda been on it.
I’ve got some disagreements here and there but I can live with most of these decisions… EXCEPT KILLGRAVE!!! He should definitely be S tier!
more of this please :)
LET’S GOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Kilgrave. I still to this day am not sure exactly HOW he lost. He is easily the most terrifying and one of the most evil villains with a power that is OP. What if he told Spiderman to kill MJ? Literally how is he NOT high S Tier?
They gaslit John bruh lol
12:50 support other coffee houses, avoid Starbucks. Eat the rich
48:30 Maybe Surtur should be A teir. He actually succeeded! How many other villains "won"?
01:15:50 I wish Marvel would have better used Christian Bale. God butcher did not butcher in the movie
8:50 why red skull could have been anyone... they thought it could be anyone so they choose red skull. Cuz it can be anyone
John is the only sensible one on this panel bruh 😂😂😂
Lmao! I’m I mistaken that I’ve seen numerous new rockstars vid saying that marvel has a villain problem?
Let’s go!
I prefer Loki just one above Kilmonger, but ok and End Game Thanos is S tier jmo
Y’all are SMOKING for even CONSIDERING Thanos as anything other than the TOP S tier villain. 😂😂😂
The way the man two-pieced Hulk into submission in Infinity War deserves S tier consideration alone.
we need more jacki !
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I feel so bad for John having to deal with all these sugar coated ass rankings. Theres garbage villians nobody knows in A tear.
I agree with Brandon that Zemo is S
scarlet witch being that much higher than ultron is just insane to me, age of ultron is amazing and people that hate it are children. its the only mcu movie where the avengers are a team from start to finish.
She was threating and he wasn't. That's the problem.
Day 1 mysterio fan here
they’re all super biased towards the actors and not the characters, a bunch of the villains are being ranked as actors & not villians
I don’t know about “super” biased, we clearly set up the criteria at the start. But it’s okay, you can rank these on your own!
Call it RaFoBaFo, Rad Folks ranking Bad Folks
She keeps talking about the evolution of a character but the poll was them as a villian! Remove the character arch and just focus on the time of them during peak bad.
I think it’s great to take into account the totality of the character, no one is pure good or pure evil, and these villains are sometimes complex!
Where’s Namor?
He's on the bottom S tier
Love from Belgium 🇧🇪 ❤
a tier is all over the s tier is great tho
Marvel is always wasting their villain's 😢 one movie....
Whoa whoa whoa... Wenwu is so so so much higher than Hella. Hella was a goof ball with no empathy and a penchant for murder. That's it. Go back and watch the emotions on Wenwu's face both in the flashbacks when he is with his wife and say the end of the movie when he's arguing with his son at the gate... So good. He's almost at the top of S tier.
This list is so unhinged 😅🥴
The Breakroom Reforged
Putting Kang as high A is ridiculous…Kang was so far from being scary. So disappointing for what they could have done with Kang.
John was right
I still have a hard time with accepting MBJ as Kilmonger. His dialogue did not match what I would expect from an MIT grad/Navy Seal and adjacent Chad Boseman (R.I.P.) he seemed kind of low intelligence and thuggish. Maybe A tier not S. Just my opinion.
Erik Stevens was a brilliant character, written incredibly smart, and acted that way too, from Micheal B. Jordan. If you felt he was “low intelligence” and “thuggish”, I think that’s a sign you should look inward and ask why. If you weren’t aware, the use of the word “thug” is often associated with people who are making an effort to diminish or delegitimize the accomplishments or efforts of a black man.
are you kidding me with the Spiderman villains, all much lower, you spidie lovers, good show guys/girl.
Evan: Hey guys we need to hurry
Jacki: Back when I was a girl...
Jacki: Did y'all see that vampire movie...
Jacki: Why didn't Secret Invasion work...
Jacki: We're being so mean to the F-tier
Jacki was right to bring all of those up, every time haha
@@hectorminator literally live for all her 'tangents'
hahah aww thanks
Algorithm food!
does Bill Maher record in the room next door
controversial opinion: killmonger not that great of a villain - would put him at high B tier hes just not that believable
VERY wild take!
@@hectorminator I don’t think he’s “bad” by any means - Michael B was excellent - I would just need more than just a comment section to fully explain my thought process 😂
@@henryvandeglind741 make a video! Then send me the link!! lol
I'm sorry electro should not have even been in the movie always had an issue with that. 1 he didn't even know who Spider-Man was. So I say he should have been a D
Y'all know Scarlet Witch can beat the shit outta all of these villains and she's not in the top? Also Killgrave should be a S tier villain
High evo not S??? R we serious???
The man is feared in the cosmos...hes created countless worlds and species...he also has his own dna storage and collection facility
I disagree on John Walker. He has anger and other emotional issues which caused him to make some bad choices for sure, but he is not a villian at all. A misguided anti-hero maybe.
His anger and emotional issues that led to his choices makes him a villain, like other villains who also make mistakes and let their anger or emotional issues get the best of them. Walker’s problem is also that he believes he *deserved* the shield, which a real Captain America would never think.
Let’s go
Lfg!!!!🙌🏽
I love Justin Hammer but putting him at a A is insane. Great performance but he's a B villain in an average movie
The Mandarin is so not a villain. He shouldn’t even be in the ranking
You forgot the vilans of Ms marvel
I had to cut out a LOT of villains!
When you put "coming up in this episode" and then show most of what you already ranked what's the point of watching lol
We hadn’t even gotten one third of the way done when we ranked Loki, lol
@@hectorminator take what you will from what I said I just never liked the "coming up in this episode" not just from this but from TV shows and all that. Supposed to be a way to hook people in? Ehhh idk it bugs me.
Scarlet Witch is a hero not a villain
the Netflix villains are not MCU
Thanos is a B-tier villain, at best. I simply didn't like him and his plan.
Wild take!
Kang is S tier
Where is Moriah you bastards?
It’s spelled *Mariah, you bastard. 😂
@@hectorminator apologies...you bastard.