You think she care? You ask like it's surprising for people with bad intentions to do bad things. Also, this is China where people murder each other for living better lives or having a better future then them.
Now, THAT is quite irrelevant. The amount of girls/women in their late teens/early twens who "prefer older partners" (imo, that's just an excuse to 'not' admit the obvious, prostitution...) is seemingly endless. Us guys, on the other hand, just aren't interested in such normally. Add the nasty misogynistic nature of biology that let's us men have kids even in our 60's whereas womens' chances to conceive diminish rapidly after mid-twenties to early thirties, and the different perception of age based on gender should become clear regardless of any 'wishful thinking' (a.k.a., 'gender equality').
Harold's choice of infidelity to address his desire to shake up Cora was so, so wrong. Following that with derailing her career, the only thing of value in her life besides him, was cruel beyond belief. His thinking that this would bring her back to him was extremely misguided. She finally took direct action by recording Giselle exposing her on social media. This removed the road block to obtaining the role in Ives' film leading to her career resurrection and completely severing her ties to Harrold.
Well written. I was thinking "why didn't she just tell him", but as the story went on I understood. Fear and trauma. I will also look to be more empathetic going forward.
I also have the question that in all story fl always says in mind not in reality, always they want not arguing with ml.....why?????? I don't understand this type of behaviour.......why should she not tell them the reality face to face of him.... counting his faults what he did !!!!!!!????
@@bobypjkv9837 I think the basic reason why you can't talk to somebody about own traumas is very simple: you don't feel safe enough to open up because you fear being hurt by indiference or lack of understanding. After abortion he rejected and deminished her initial attempts to talk about her childhood so she didn't try again and he wasn't really interested. Bad things we experiance as children can really screw up many years of our life and ruin our relationships - untill we heal and rebuild ourselves.
Personally, I would have been tempted to tell him after he tried to force her had after posting an engagement with Giselle, "Yes, I'll get back together with you as long as you make our relationship public and get rid of Giselle" Than change my mind after.
The only mistake FL has is that she chose someone who wanted a child. She should have chosen someone who could understand her trauma, someome who was completely aligned to her needs. But even so, that does not warrant infidelity. Harold is an ass.
I can agree that her hiding wanting the abortion made him upset with her hiding it, but his reaction when he found out proved her decision to hide it correct. She knew that he really wanted a child and his interactions with her probably not want him to know because he would stopped her. If he just asked why she wanted it and cared what her reason was, then she would probably have opened up. 10 years together is a long time and he never learned anything about her scars or why she behaved like she did. If she felt secure she probably would told him.
i know fiancee is a-hole... as for op, she mentioned many times how he was raised with love and in 43:29 she mentioned that he asked her about her tattoo but never said anything... if it's about security with him, why should she be engage with him and stay with him for 14 yrs if she did not feel secured? she had so many chances to tell him about her wound to make him understand how deep her trauma was but she never did, she just expects that some screen will pop-up and play flashback of her trauma... her fiancee is not fortune teller or can read minds, for him her trauma was shallow because he thought it was just the normal punishment for kids because she never told him anything aside from the word trauma she keeps saying, but the one op expects him to guess is the one she never told him...
If she had shared her childhood traumas when they were building a relationship so many years ago, he would have been more understanding. She was secretive.
Yes bc abortion is a big issue that a couple should discuss together. Childfree is ok but needs to talk together. If the other pp doesn’t understand then she can break up.
Nah, even if she told him her traumatic experience, he was just going to scoff it off because he didn't care. He only cares about himself, of course, because he thinks he's right about everything. He loves her? Yet he slept with another woman and then called it a distraction? A stand-in, as he said, how ridiculous. Sorry for yapping, hahahaha. Anyway, no matter what, he doesn't care at all. So with or without explanation, he doesn't care.
24:52 I REALLY hate when authors do this. Why can't the FL EVER say these thoughts of their grievances OUT LOUD?🤬 They can rid themselves of the ashole that keeps pestering them or tormenting them. Because the id*ots can't understand WHY his girlfriend/Fiancé/wife, decided to leave them. Instead, they only agree with the scumbag, stay quiet, or say "there's no point in telling him anything anymore "😑. They only end up pissing off the scum & are made to endure petty abuse. They give the AHole the delusion that HE did nothing wrong, therefore SHE should atone. Then he latches out, & makes the FL's life a living hells. If she had said these words out loud, he would've felt guilty & eased off a bit . But NOOO they just AHVE to stay quiet, & further enrage the lunatic🤦🏻♀️. No disrespect to men, but men can sometimes be very dense. They legit think everything is alright in the relationship, & she had nothing to complain about. Sometimes you HAVE to educate the fools, & voice your grievances.
It makes sense to talk, explain and discus with reasonable people. But I think ML wasn't of that kind, but was quite narcissistic. On some level he didn't care and didn't want to know about her grievances otherwise he would understand why she wasn't ready to have a child - but he didn't. All in all he was more selfish than emphatic. With such people there is actually really no point to talk to them because they can't move on from their stand of view and beleive their version is the only right one. They quarreled, so she obviously tried to give explanation bu they didn't progress anywhere. In the end one gets too tired to explain anything to the wall.
@ He also had many chances to ask but didn't. They both should learn how to communicate and pay attention to other people's feelings. Also most of humanity should learn it as lack of communication skills and being uncapable of empathy is the biggest source of misfortune in general.
The story makes lot more sense than many i have heard... it is not easy for people born with comforts of life to even spot truama .. it is understandble had it been the initial stages of the relationship, but 14 years later, on the verge of marriage, there should have been more communication between the two.. more observation from the guy side.. clearly, he was entitled and self-absorbed.. he should have at least questioned what she meant by beatings in childhood.. he took her for granted. She never trusted him enough to open about her truama.. this relationship was doomed right from get go.. at least the fl got out.. and moved on.. I hope she tries to heal herself with therapy, and sml is more empathetic else, That will be doomed relation too..
The female lead should’ve gone to therapy for the trauma of the mother and the father and everything that happened in her childhood. for many years at the point the time she got pregnant with a baby and if you’re in a relationship, you should definitely talk to the partner about an abortion. You should never just go off and do it by yourself.
As someone who have my own childhood trauma, I cannot understand some of her decision. Then again, different people have different ways to deal with their pain. But you cannot build a life or marriage with someone with secrets between you. Especially if that secret can cause misunderstanding and conflict. He made his mistakes but she also made hers. She did not explain properly her fear and how the beatings she received differs from the ones he probably heard from entitled rich kids who whined over a little pain. His mistake is that he lacked the curiosity to understand her better. Her mistake is not discussing her trauma properly to someone who would be her husband. Considering that he wanted a child but she wasn't ready, they should have talked about this before the engagement. If your significant other doesn't want a child but you do, it is best to give up because this will come up after tying the knot over and over again. Especially with friends and relatives having their own kids, creating a cycle of temptation.
This stories often make some average conclusions and remarks on places where more detailed explanation would be needed to understand characters better. They obviously quarreled a lot on topic of having a child and is not very clear why she didn't open up about her true experiances at that point. May be she didn't trust enough or feel safe as he wasn't very perceptive and emphatic when she tried to talk about it. All in all they didn't find the common language and his inadequate actions with mistress just gave their relationship the killing blow.
people seem forget what op did too... 1. she scheduled an aborthion without his knowledge 2. never eplained her trauma. for many years and many oppotunies she could explain it, she didn't do it, even when she lost the their baby and fiancee knew about the scheduled abortion she just said it's about her trauma (she hopes when she said the magic word 'trauma', some screen will pop-up and play a flashback of her trauma and make her fiancee understand her point of view) yes, old wounds are difficult to talk about, but why did she only care to explain the depths of her trauma when things already ended up? why not explain when he asked about her tattoo? op knows her fiancee was raised in love and mentioned it many times, but somehow she magically wants him to see her pov thru magic word 'trauma' without explanation. ps. yes, fiancee was an a-hole for what he did, i would never disagree with that or defend that. both never talked it out, one cheated, the other one waits for her magical screen to play flashback of her trauma to explain for herself. both are a-hole.
Ye, that is the stupedest way one can imagine, but obviously men can beleive that it works? Actually you have to be a narcissist who beleives she can never leave him because he is so perfect and perfectly holds her life and career in his hands. There are women who forgive repeated cheating but this FL wasn't one of those as she took in too much abuse in her childhood to stand it again. He was delusional and didn't know her at all.
The fl is selfish she know only how to blame ml. You need two hand to clap how disgusting this story, you always tried to make a story that all men are cheater or despicable. I dont know your resentment towards men but your plot is boring. Your story is like the small chinese movie same storyline different actor. I think this author had some mental problems . the story always revolves with a scumbag and an fl who is dumb and this fl walk away and voila found a new life
What the heck is wrong with this guy because of her age. And how old are u Harold. Same age as u Harold
You kept a mistress and still have the audacity to ask “Are you living me?”. WHAT DO YOU THINK-
Does Giselle not realize that throwing ACID at someone and on someone with intent to cause HARM is ASSAULT
You think she care? You ask like it's surprising for people with bad intentions to do bad things. Also, this is China where people murder each other for living better lives or having a better future then them.
She's 30 and so old...!!!! (says the man who's also 30 and just as old!!!!!)
Now, THAT is quite irrelevant.
The amount of girls/women in their late teens/early twens who "prefer older partners" (imo, that's just an excuse to 'not' admit the obvious, prostitution...) is seemingly endless. Us guys, on the other hand, just aren't interested in such normally.
Add the nasty misogynistic nature of biology that let's us men have kids even in our 60's whereas womens' chances to conceive diminish rapidly after mid-twenties to early thirties, and the different perception of age based on gender should become clear regardless of any 'wishful thinking' (a.k.a., 'gender equality').
It's different for genders. Women's attractiveness usually goes down around 30-40 while men can stay attractive for a lot longer.
@@coolet9132 So sexist
Harold's choice of infidelity to address his desire to shake up Cora was so, so wrong. Following that with derailing her career, the only thing of value in her life besides him, was cruel beyond belief. His thinking that this would bring her back to him was extremely misguided. She finally took direct action by recording Giselle exposing her on social media. This removed the road block to obtaining the role in Ives' film leading to her career resurrection and completely severing her ties to Harrold.
Well written.
I was thinking "why didn't she just tell him", but as the story went on I understood. Fear and trauma.
I will also look to be more empathetic going forward.
I also have the question that in all story fl always says in mind not in reality, always they want not arguing with ml.....why?????? I don't understand this type of behaviour.......why should she not tell them the reality face to face of him.... counting his faults what he did !!!!!!!????
@@bobypjkv9837 I think the basic reason why you can't talk to somebody about own traumas is very simple: you don't feel safe enough to open up because you fear being hurt by indiference or lack of understanding. After abortion he rejected and deminished her initial attempts to talk about her childhood so she didn't try again and he wasn't really interested. Bad things we experiance as children can really screw up many years of our life and ruin our relationships - untill we heal and rebuild ourselves.
He considerer her emotional trauma as BS, yeah this guy has never had a bad experience from family... so how could he understand her.
Personally, I would have been tempted to tell him after he tried to force her had after posting an engagement with Giselle, "Yes, I'll get back together with you as long as you make our relationship public and get rid of Giselle" Than change my mind after.
The only mistake FL has is that she chose someone who wanted a child. She should have chosen someone who could understand her trauma, someome who was completely aligned to her needs.
But even so, that does not warrant infidelity. Harold is an ass.
I can agree that her hiding wanting the abortion made him upset with her hiding it, but his reaction when he found out proved her decision to hide it correct. She knew that he really wanted a child and his interactions with her probably not want him to know because he would stopped her. If he just asked why she wanted it and cared what her reason was, then she would probably have opened up. 10 years together is a long time and he never learned anything about her scars or why she behaved like she did. If she felt secure she probably would told him.
i know fiancee is a-hole... as for op, she mentioned many times how he was raised with love and in 43:29 she mentioned that he asked her about her tattoo but never said anything... if it's about security with him, why should she be engage with him and stay with him for 14 yrs if she did not feel secured? she had so many chances to tell him about her wound to make him understand how deep her trauma was but she never did, she just expects that some screen will pop-up and play flashback of her trauma... her fiancee is not fortune teller or can read minds, for him her trauma was shallow because he thought it was just the normal punishment for kids because she never told him anything aside from the word trauma she keeps saying, but the one op expects him to guess is the one she never told him...
Harold is a selfish evil man. He never loved her. She was just his possession.
If she had shared her childhood traumas when they were building a relationship so many years ago, he would have been more understanding.
She was secretive.
Yes bc abortion is a big issue that a couple should discuss together. Childfree is ok but needs to talk together. If the other pp doesn’t understand then she can break up.
Talking about abuse requires trust, and it seems that Harold has not been able to build that trust over 14 years.
He called it bullshit psychological trauma 🤷♀️
Nah, even if she told him her traumatic experience, he was just going to scoff it off because he didn't care. He only cares about himself, of course, because he thinks he's right about everything.
He loves her? Yet he slept with another woman and then called it a distraction? A stand-in, as he said, how ridiculous.
Sorry for yapping, hahahaha.
Anyway, no matter what, he doesn't care at all. So with or without explanation, he doesn't care.
@@nanabangtan9910 You didn't yapp, you hit the nail on the head. 👍
Salut to a strong FL.
I don't understand these men !!!!! The things they do and say then need ok, answer... really..
24:52 I REALLY hate when authors do this. Why can't the FL EVER say these thoughts of their grievances OUT LOUD?🤬
They can rid themselves of the ashole that keeps pestering them or tormenting them. Because the id*ots can't understand WHY his girlfriend/Fiancé/wife, decided to leave them.
Instead, they only agree with the scumbag, stay quiet, or say "there's no point in telling him anything anymore "😑. They only end up pissing off the scum & are made to endure petty abuse. They give the AHole the delusion that HE did nothing wrong, therefore SHE should atone.
Then he latches out, & makes the FL's life a living hells.
If she had said these words out loud, he would've felt guilty & eased off a bit . But NOOO they just AHVE to stay quiet, & further enrage the lunatic🤦🏻♀️. No disrespect to men, but men can sometimes be very dense. They legit think everything is alright in the relationship, & she had nothing to complain about. Sometimes you HAVE to educate the fools, & voice your grievances.
It makes sense to talk, explain and discus with reasonable people. But I think ML wasn't of that kind, but was quite narcissistic. On some level he didn't care and didn't want to know about her grievances otherwise he would understand why she wasn't ready to have a child - but he didn't. All in all he was more selfish than emphatic. With such people there is actually really no point to talk to them because they can't move on from their stand of view and beleive their version is the only right one. They quarreled, so she obviously tried to give explanation bu they didn't progress anywhere. In the end one gets too tired to explain anything to the wall.
@@zdem8259 op had so many chances to tell him about her trauma but never did
@ He also had many chances to ask but didn't. They both should learn how to communicate and pay attention to other people's feelings. Also most of humanity should learn it as lack of communication skills and being uncapable of empathy is the biggest source of misfortune in general.
@@zdem8259 he did ask her about her tattoo but what did she said? nothing
He doesn't like to touch his own body?
The story makes lot more sense than many i have heard... it is not easy for people born with comforts of life to even spot truama .. it is understandble had it been the initial stages of the relationship, but 14 years later, on the verge of marriage, there should have been more communication between the two.. more observation from the guy side.. clearly, he was entitled and self-absorbed.. he should have at least questioned what she meant by beatings in childhood.. he took her for granted. She never trusted him enough to open about her truama.. this relationship was doomed right from get go.. at least the fl got out.. and moved on.. I hope she tries to heal herself with therapy, and sml is more empathetic else, That will be doomed relation too..
The female lead should’ve gone to therapy for the trauma of the mother and the father and everything that happened in her childhood. for many years at the point the time she got pregnant with a baby and if you’re in a relationship, you should definitely talk to the partner about an abortion. You should never just go off and do it by yourself.
She did tell him, he dismissed her then tried to get revenge by cheating with Gisele
Wow! He considers 30 as too old...just for her. Funny men peak in 20s, women in their 30s, and he's not younger than FL.
I had my first kid at 37, second at 40, third at 43, with five years younger husband. Soooo... who is too old?
As someone who have my own childhood trauma, I cannot understand some of her decision. Then again, different people have different ways to deal with their pain. But you cannot build a life or marriage with someone with secrets between you. Especially if that secret can cause misunderstanding and conflict. He made his mistakes but she also made hers. She did not explain properly her fear and how the beatings she received differs from the ones he probably heard from entitled rich kids who whined over a little pain. His mistake is that he lacked the curiosity to understand her better. Her mistake is not discussing her trauma properly to someone who would be her husband. Considering that he wanted a child but she wasn't ready, they should have talked about this before the engagement. If your significant other doesn't want a child but you do, it is best to give up because this will come up after tying the knot over and over again. Especially with friends and relatives having their own kids, creating a cycle of temptation.
This stories often make some average conclusions and remarks on places where more detailed explanation would be needed to understand characters better. They obviously quarreled a lot on topic of having a child and is not very clear why she didn't open up about her true experiances at that point. May be she didn't trust enough or feel safe as he wasn't very perceptive and emphatic when she tried to talk about it. All in all they didn't find the common language and his inadequate actions with mistress just gave their relationship the killing blow.
Well because the author want a scumbag ml and a fl that become self reliant at the end
people seem forget what op did too...
1. she scheduled an aborthion without his knowledge
2. never eplained her trauma. for many years and many oppotunies she could explain it, she didn't do it, even when she lost the their baby and fiancee knew about the scheduled abortion she just said it's about her trauma (she hopes when she said the magic word 'trauma', some screen will pop-up and play a flashback of her trauma and make her fiancee understand her point of view)
yes, old wounds are difficult to talk about, but why did she only care to explain the depths of her trauma when things already ended up? why not explain when he asked about her tattoo? op knows her fiancee was raised in love and mentioned it many times, but somehow she magically wants him to see her pov thru magic word 'trauma' without explanation.
ps. yes, fiancee was an a-hole for what he did, i would never disagree with that or defend that. both never talked it out, one cheated, the other one waits for her magical screen to play flashback of her trauma to explain for herself. both are a-hole.
Story is good. Eventhough l don't share a lot of these values, l can understand.
Why don't they say the things that they're thinking. So much miscommunication. Seriously!!
I don't understand the logic behind cheating can make your ex go back with you
Like that will help with the relationship?
Ye, that is the stupedest way one can imagine, but obviously men can beleive that it works? Actually you have to be a narcissist who beleives she can never leave him because he is so perfect and perfectly holds her life and career in his hands. There are women who forgive repeated cheating but this FL wasn't one of those as she took in too much abuse in her childhood to stand it again. He was delusional and didn't know her at all.
@@zdem8259 ✅ dedinitely narcissistic guy!
Even if they were to gather he shouldn't have done that
What the heck Ethan! You scumbag! Ooops Ethan’s not in this drama? My bad😅
These Storyline makes me feel so 🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢
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The fl is selfish she know only how to blame ml. You need two hand to clap how disgusting this story, you always tried to make a story that all men are cheater or despicable. I dont know your resentment towards men but your plot is boring. Your story is like the small chinese movie same storyline different actor. I think this author had some mental problems . the story always revolves with a scumbag and an fl who is dumb and this fl walk away and voila found a new life
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