Tbf they never killed off any main characters, it was always the boring side characters that are forgettable for the most part. I’d genuinely love to see a proper horror take on the franchise where most of the cast do die and we get 1 or 2 survivors.
I think the Therizinosaurus scene was so good for many reasons: 1. It featured a dino that was barely shown in advertising. 2. It wasn't the usual fast-paced explosive action. It was slow and suspenseful. 3. Aggressive herbivore. Something severely lacking in animal-related media as a whole.
i dont like aggresive herbivores, it makes sense that a half blind therizino would attack anything close, but it makes more sense for them to run away than fight.
@@imyellowteeth4691 aggressive herbivores exist today, so aggressive herbivorous dinosaurs were also possible, and we definitely need that to subvert expectations already for this series of films at least
Honestly the Therizinosaurus wasn’t just the best scene in Dominion but actually a good scene overall. Maybe even the best scene in the whole JW trilogy and it’s exactly what we need
Exactly, and big reason why it’s so iconic and memorable is because it’s slow and suspenseful, not action-packed explosions, and it has the dino act like a real animal It instills a sense of dread and fear better than just having another “bigger, badder version of the t-rex”
@@blakeharris58 I did say probably 😅 And it’s more accurate than how they’re usually depicted in movies (Plus even if we can never be 100% sure we can at least consider evidence we have and what is or isn’t very likely, and make comparisons to their closest living relatives)
How about this? Make dinosaurs, not monsters, but dangerous animals. There's a difference And yes, don't make T-Rex (or any dino for that matter) Godzilla.
@@TommyPrime4 Yeah, but the point is, its starting to get tiresome. I love a dino fight as much as the next guy but A: It doesn't always have to involve the T-Rex. And B: sometimes, less is more.
Yeah, the dinosaurs appeared infrequently and behaves rather like actual animals. Jurasssic World was a load of balls by comparison, like when the pterosaurs immediately went and attacked a crownd for no reason when their cage was broken
You'd think that instead of giving the dinosaur a human brain with a shoddy control chip, they'd give it a dog brain so they can train it like a guard dog, and not need laser pointer nonsense.
Responding to one of the notes: The Indominus removed the tracker because it was probably uncomfortable, especially if it shocked her when she got close to a fence. It would’ve been been able to do that in captivity, because they would’ve just kept putting one in. Even Owen just says she remembered it being put in, not that it knew what a tracker was.
Yeah I think that’s what happened too, when the tracker was activated it irritated the I Rex, so she scratched it out. However, the audience will take the characters anthropomorphic interpretations at face value. Owen’s theory is stupid. You don’t just need intelligence to remove a tracker, you need knowledge too. Even a human raised in the same conditions as the I Rex wouldn’t be able to disable the tracker, as they wouldn’t know what it was.
I can name one off the top of my head. In 2006, there was a horror/comedy movie called “Mammoth”. Basically an asteroid crashed into a museum in Texas and an alien came out of it and possessed the frozen carcass of a Woolly Mammoth which causes it to come back to life and go on a rampage.
T.rex being a punching bag is Something that always annoyed me since they nerfed the T.rex into oblivion just to hype up the new threat ,you don't need to have the new antagonist stronger then the previous one, it just needs to introduce a new challenge.
I like your point. But Jw franchise went too far. And unfortianatly put up the strenght order of: "How easily beat Rexy?" (Or Big Eatie) The 2 stronggest T-rex in the franchise. If rexes beat simething they just say in their universe that creature even weaker than rexes. So I think Rexy still being punchbag for 1vs1 to plot armor her out. Unfortionatly...
@@Mobius118 But on the other hand the fans are get used to Rexy (or any other Tyrannosaurus in Jurassic franchise) get dominated. And in Jurassic franchise Giga is canonicly a strongger creature than Tyrannosaurus rexes. As I said earlier they went too far, to back from that path. The power measuring process is get 1 question: "How easily destroyed Rexy?" And the level of Rexy's chanceless in 1v1 give the rank of JW ranglist. For me Rexy the perfect example, how to destroy, humulate your own mascot. Phisicly, and in the eye of fans, who not familiar with Rexy's past. Due less and less part of the community is the part who actualy watched JP1 in premiere, and those who started with JW only saw that is Rexy get dominated, and plot shileded always. And that was something wich more and more fans start to hate. Like me. I don't care if Rexy win or lose, until it was fair, and not manipulated battle. I much more love Rexy is she die as a fighter, as a fierce predator who found an even strongger opponent, than see her allive, and know of only plot armor saved her life, when she gived up the fight. My opinion is Dead like a fighter>>>>>>>> live like a walking punchbag
This is all good advice, but I'd rather see this franchise just end already and make room for new IP that breathes new life into the prehistory genre and gives general audiences a fresh new view on dinosaurs and prehistoric animals. The Jurassic franchise is tired and old.
Agreed. My hopes aren’t high for this reboot, especially seeing how convoluted and ridiculous the plot was for Dominion when it had such a perfect setup (i.e., how did you guys manage to write a script that had nothing to do with dinosaurs running amok around the world when you were building toward that for two films?). David Koepp likely can’t save this from being a train wreck, but I very much hope that I am wrong.
@@AtrociCollector Exactly, they now have a world populated by dinosaurs. they can now make several different movies with no relation between them, telling stories with this premise.
@@CLBCrew96 I'd argue that 65 just continued the tired tropes that the Jurassic franchise established, like the monstrous, mindlessly aggressive, lizard-like dinosaurs. We need something more up to date, more interesting and fresh
I like your idea about the scale. They should take a note from the Predator franchise. The most recent predator movie chose to dial down the scale and focus more on character and story, and it was all the better because of it
1. Introduce some intriguing characters again 2. Introduce intriguing antagonists who aren't just evil for the sake of being evil 4. Don't fall back on the known tropes just for the sake of nostalgia bait (like using children in every movie) 3. Bring back the science fiction element 4. Avoid dinosaur caricatures (I'm a T.Rex, I get to bite and roar for the poster) 5. Explore the ethical dilemma's of dinosaurs being reintroduced to the world 6. Paleo-accurate dinosaurs can actually work, if well explained in the plot 7. Write an interesting movie... period! Pretty much all Jurassic sequels just struggle with the script
I'd be up for a dinosaurless prequel. Show the making of the park, the competition between Ingen and Biosyn, the arguments between Hammond and Malcolm about his silly idea, etc. Could be an entirely different cast. It's the dialogue that carried 70% of the original movie.
"7: less nostalgia baiting" THANK YOU, oh my GOD I'm still pissed off Jurassic World (2015) wasted it's mountain of potential to bend over to nostalgia and the whiney fanboys
Isn’t that dominion? I don’t think jw 1 was nostalgia bait at all. The story is so different frm the jp movies as they gave us an actual functioning/advanced theme park with modern technology as well as focused on the threat of a hybrid dinosaur. Meanwhile in dominion, there were sm nostalgia references to the older films
there's was still some consistencies. Babysitting 2 kids due to a pending divorce end up trapped upside down in a vehicle. Our 2 main love interest teary eyed hunched over dino fighting for its life. Mr. DNA & with heavyweight title fight65 million & 22 years in the making, grand finale. Other than that, iKnow what uMean! iWas reluctant about domesticating raptors for warfare would be absolute slapstick trainwreck. Boy, was iWrong@@AtrociCollector
I watched the oG film when I was like 4 or 5 and it became my favourite movie ever, watching the JW studio pander to people who loved the original came across as really cheap, tacky and just inauthentic.
JP3 cgi isn't that great. The practical effects are what stands out. Spinosaurus was and still is the largest animatronic ever built. And that was 2001. Unless the cgi trend ends, we're never going to see something like that again.
@@DewskyDillshineMoonpickle Yeah I just don’t really like the texturing in the JW CGI. The movements look great, but the skin looks fake and sort of wet. The jp3 raptors and spino, perhaps due to increased use of animatronics, have more real looking skin.
@LightBringer127_dragonart The Spinosaurus is my favorite dinosaur and animatronic from the franchise. Jw triliogy does use animatronics, but not enough. Sometimes, it's too hard to tell which is which. Mybe, that's a good thing, mybe that's a bad thing.
July next year is so fast for an effects heavy movie to be realized, unless they’re way farther along in production than they’re letting on. But at the same time that also might mean they’re going smaller and more “intimate” of a movie
I love how the community turned rexy and the raptors into characters after the first movie, and then got mad when the studio turned them into characters after the first movie
We keep forgetting that the first two movie was great because they were based on Michael Cricton's novel and he was actually the part of the production (the first movie mainly) Even if Spielberg changed thigs, it worked because it had a strong intellectual base to draw from. Spielberg was not stranger to adapt books to the theater, I think this was the reason they want him (what he did with Jaws) Honestly, nowadays all the creative ppl have a bad time to make something original or noteworthy with this mentality of Hollywood now... :(
I agree that Ceratosaurus is a punching bag in the jurassic series. having that e750 thing kill a cerato serves no purpose but to anger tha fans, every time Cerato appeared before that scene, it was a peaceful carnivore or just chasing intruders off it territory. Also the idea of Indomins breaking out of her paddock, going directly to Rexy's paddock, beating her up, and then heading back towards her paddock sounds hilarious.
1- make it a horror movie (not only jumpscare scenes) 2- less characters (make them like regular people who will do anything to get out alive even if he betrayed or left someone to 💀 for his safety) 3- no heroes to save the day 4- dinosaurs attack every one including the good guys not the bad ones only 5- no love stories, center it on survival 6- more bloody scenes like the baby story from the first book
I’m currently rereading the book, that baby bit was something I had forgotten about and my god it does show how horrific this world could be to live in if the dinosaurs were more widespread.
I still think they could make modern day accurate dinos and pull it off. The series already addressed that the JP dinos aren't accurate at all, so they have the perfect excuse. Make them accurate, as a new in universe way of attracting new visitors, showing dinos as they actually were and not as monsters. And then have those new dinos break loose and make them scary again, by being real. And yes, focus it back on random everyday people facing nature gone bad, we don't need more The Fast And The Dino.
I absolutely agree with everything you said. I don't mind some action scenes to be more bombastic or comedic than others (things like Gennaro's death in JP or the Main Street attack in JW) but I agree that the best ones are the tense ones (things like the kitchen scene in JP or te therizinosaurus scene in Dominion).
There are three main things, 1. Give each character a reason to be in the plot and not just riding along with the plot. Give them character development, grant leaning to love kids more, we should have gotten Ian learning to become a parent, and more, and ellie deciding to go into the bunker to turn on the power. 2. Don’t show to many dinosours, do at least 7 dinosours a movie and 3 new ones each movie, while taking some out from the original seven. Ans make sure these dinosours are more like creatures, they don’t fight just because. Instead we could get a fight between eating the humans seeing them both struggle to snatch a bite. 3. ADD suspense, build up to each creature. I wish we saw a big spine sticking out of the water before the spinosoures came out. I wish we had more suspense like Ellie turning on the fences as we see group 1 on it.
I remember those old concept pieces of human dinosaur hybrids. Looking at the world trilogy now, I think going all out would have been better than a slow pathetic death for this franchise.
small scale yes, but please dont do the remote location escape story again. dominion somehow managed to have a global catastrophe plot while taking place mostly in some valley in the middle of nowhere, without showing anything of the world the good guys had to save
I got nothing to add as these are pretty much the exact points I want in a new Jurassic film. After Dominion, I really wish that Jurassic series just took a really long break then came back but hey, "progress always wins" apparently. Let's just hope they learned their lesson from JWD and make a better film.
I think the designs should just go back to being based on 90's paleoart, it made for some absolutely iconic designs, leaving most JW designs bland in comparasion. I'm sure no one will remember the JW Giga in 20 years but everyone will still love the JP rex
I absolutely agree. I think you hit the nail right on the head. Although i'n going to add one point: give your movies a through-plot. I mention this because of the "world" movies. They were clearly setting up for humanoid hybrids and yet all we got was... big... bugs... Give the story a narrative and even if it's bad, at least some of your audience will be more than willing to follow it
6 things: 1. Make them like Jurassic Park again. 2. Add more horror and less cheap jokes 3. Make the dinosaurs behave more like animals and less like Pokemon. Rexy and blue doing some sort of stupid tag team? What? 4. Less Rexy 5. Don't command the damn dinos 6. Give us scene where we're scared. Scared for the characters instead of the MC putting up his hands and stopping the dino or having a character screaming to make things seem funny My favorites scenes were with the two Trex rampaging throught the city and the one where the Spino was chasing people around.
If we’re being 1000% honest, we will never get an actual good dinosaur movie ever again. People with taste want scientifically accurate dinosaurs in a horror film (which is what I want) but it will never happen unfortunately
Make it basically Dead Space but set around the same time as the events in Jurassic Park. Some random team of engineers and scientists who sheltered down during the storm, now trying to get somewhere to send a distress signal and they have to avoid getting eaten.
Regarding the scale, the first couple seasons of camp cretaceous did this really well. In fact, it even did the thing about discovering secrets about masrani and stuff. Till halfway through the second season, two main characters were seriously thought to be dead. Before tye reveal about their survival, a couple episodes were given to show the effects, the guilt of the others. Then it all went to shit when they got to the other island but the first couple seasons? Chefs kiss
Great series when it was only about some teens trying to survive in an island with dinosaurs. They messed it up with all those robots and super advanced technology.
Step 8 : Please have an original story other than BIG BAD CORPORATION/ MILITARY takes hold of dinosaur technology, thinking they can tame the dinosaurs, but they lose control, and things go predicably crazy.
I think what ends up being linked to item 5, although it can be done on a large scale, is to have a script that makes more sense. Every film, to some degree, has illogical acts, because "otherwise there would be no film". The JP trilogy has stories that unfold logically, the first two JW work from error to error. JWD even improves on this, but it almost became an international spy film in which there are dinosaurs.
I published an IG post like two days ago and I'm happy to say that we agreed on basically everything. I don't want to sound overly nasty - I enjoy the first two Jurassic World movies after all - but gosh, stuff needs to be corrected. First of all, I agree with the idea of coming back to something smaller in scale, with the darker, survival horror(ish) atmosphere that characterised the first trilogy, not the bombastic, action packed scenarios we've seen with the second one (especially in Dominion). I think that the smaller dinosaur cast too can be considered as an element playing in favour of a smaller scale; this is an aspect almost everyone seems to forget, but I've been saying that constantly after JWD: quality>quantity. I don't want to sound like a downer, however as you said, while it can be fun to have such a wide cast exploring so many different taxa, there's no point in having it if 90% of the animals are going to be ignored (eg. Iguanodon or Oviraptor) or wasted (Quetzalcoatlus or Pyroraptor). So yeah, I'm for less dinosaurs. Not just that, but I say that for now the franchise should focus on the tons of animals we already have, instead of adding more and more of them. There are many species which could do great with more space, like the aforementioned ones from JWD, let's exploit them before we move onto something else. Finally, I completely, totally, absolutely agree with the designs' point. When I complain about some artistic choices, I get automatically answered by many people "these are movies, they're not demanded to be scientifically valid!" You perfectly encapsulated my thoughts in one single phrase: being unscientific doesn't excuse ugly designs. In all honesty btw, talking about dinosaur medias in general, I think having some more accuracy in dinosaurs' portrayals would be great. Subjectively speaking, I will always prefer them to whatever Hollywood will ever come up with, but also objectively, I think that a more updated view on dinosaurs in cinema (like many games are doing) would be something incredibly fresh and original, other than educational. As always, sorry for the huge wall of text people😂 PS: I'm glad you pointed out how the franchise needs to stop using the T. rex as a punching bag for other theropods in those Marvel-ish battles. Tyrannosaurus doesn't need to fight with always new bigger badder carnivores to be an awesome animal. Leave Rexy alone
I had an idea for a movie called Jurassic World: Fallout where a nuclear power plant melted down in the vicinity of the Biosyn Valley where they have to save the dinosaurs from fire and stuff. But now I realize that a nuclear fallout just on the valley doesn't make much sense, but I don't want it to be like you said, "possibly world ending."
Part of why I want this movie not to be part of the JW Continuity, is cause I want a redesign for many of the dinosaurs they already have, cause some are very lazy and badly designed, like the bary, tarbo, giga, allo, etc If they want to return these dinosaurs, I’d love to see some changes that make them more faithful to the animal.
@@redraptorwrites6778 ye, I have doubts they would change them if it would be still part of the continuity. Changes to make it closer to the actual animal would be appreciated. And giving it something more creative like the coloring to make them stand out or look more stunning instead of the same Shades of blue, grays or browns. Just like good JP trilogy color schemes, especially those in games
How to make a good Jurassic Park movie. Step 1:Add focus to dramatic tension between characters. It adds a bit of suspense waiting for the dinos to start killing people, makes the deaths and survivals later much more satisfying, and elevates it from just being standard action movie Step 2:Bring back practical effects for dinos. Not for every dino in every scene, just a splash of it sometimes in critical moments Step 3:Make the dinos act somewhat like animals. In the original you could totally pet the smaller herbivores, the velociraptors were slightly smarter than my pet cats with their smartest moment being able to open doors, and even Lost World had TRex protecting their baby. When you turn them into monsters with the intelligence of a human then they aren’t dinosaurs anymore and could be replaced with any other monster and the movie would stay the same Step 4:Very slight focus on politics of the park for a bit of world building. How did they get the funding for this after 6 terrible incidents? What safety measures do they take now? Do they actually care about the dinos or is it just profit? What is the park’s plan for if a breakout occurs? Etc. If you follow these steps you can turn any bad Jurassic Park movie into a good one
I know he said they’re already stuck with the outdated designs for some species, but I’d love to see a more modern looking Dilophosaurus, they’re my favourite dinosaur and they consistently get made way smaller because of one movie’s interpretation
WHAT?! I loved blue😭 Her relationship with Owen added a layer of connection that was very modern and timely. Humans always connect with animals, and it was nice having a fictional creature to root for and not knowing what to expect of. Owen's relationship to animals and how he connects with them was such a fun addition to JW. Hard disagree! Well made video but wanted to make that point Add on: I agree that the movie doesn't need to have excess CGI
Stop giving the characters plot armor to survive literally everything. There's no stakes because you know the main characters are too valuable for hollywood marketing to die. In the original JPs and Lost World, characters got injured frequently if not outright killed, regardless of whether they were main characters or ones we spent less time with, and that really keeps you on the edge of your seat
I hope we get a Jurassic Franchise movie where some humans and some dinos are working together; humans pack bond with absolutely effing ANYTHING, why is there no cases of humans and dinos co-existing except in the Black Market during Dominion, where it's not even cooperative co-existence? Why are there no cases of a troodon adopting a human family because it's smart enough to figure out that not attacking humans is a good way to get food and affection? No instances of one of the massive marine reptiles like the Mosasaurus deciding it likes a random ship and decides to act like it has found a pod-mate? A Pteranodon that has decided it likes the nice humans who leave food out for it, so it brings them random shiny crap it finds, like an enormous crow?
Step 1 make Camp Cretaceous live action and gritty. Step 2 - Take it seriously. We don't want funny quips that rarely land every five minutes Step 3 - Dinosaurs are enough. Step 4 - No time travel or multiverses please XD. Step 5. Prioritise the script and theory over CGI and ADR. Jaws and JP were so good because the script felt real. Characters mumbled and tripped up on what they were saying and it felt real. Now everything is too squeaky clean. Step 6 make the cast believable. We don't need buff actors, or stereotypical geeks. We need real feeling people.
I think another point on scale thats important is the scale of the physical space of the films. Even though I enjoyed the first jurassic world I felt like the scale of the park and the island was all off. I was super excited to see the park actually funcitoning and the film tried to show that but instead it sort of fell flat. The park didnt seem big enough or spread out enough and it seemed like it was too easy for characters to get from one place to the other. The great thing about the first movie was that it showed how spread apart eveything was. Grant and the Kids had to travel for hours to get from one side of the park back to the control center. Nedry got lost driving through the forest towards the docks. For the first movie it just seemed like it was too easy for characters to get back and forth, even though they had cars. Characters drive from the IRex enclosure back to the control room so frequently. Specifically the scenes with all the paddock gates lined up. Why are they so close together? I totallt agree with your points about scaling back the numbe of dinos and having more quality over quantity. I think the second and third films really suffered from this.
For point one: more species is fine, if they are done well. Jed failed this by having a ton just be background creatures, or having less than a minute of them. And more species is why I’m a proponent of JW should be going with a series, rather than a movie franchise. More time to breathe.
If they make a new saga I think it would be better to make it an anthology, with a new cast for each film. One of the problems with Jurassic World was constantly wanting to bring back the characters of Claire and Owen when their relevance ended with the first film. Resulting with having the two main characters whith no character arc in the sequels and their presence and their exposure to new conflicts seems very contrived. Also I think we need to focus again on having a statement, a message. And then add the dinosaurs to the story as a force of nature supporting or contradicting this statement. We must not make dinosaurs as characters but as amoral entities just like in the first film and the classics of the genre (Alien, Jaws). At last I do think they need to reduce the scale, fewer dinosaurs (why not having 100% new dinos, I think we are ready for a Jurassic film without T.rex or Velociraptor since we already got six movies with them), a smaller cast but endearing and the feeling that anyone can die to add suspense. No longer go for “bigger = better”, new threats can be unexpected dinosaurs, humans or even just a natural event. A global story doesn't work for Jurassic World, the dinosaurs are not Kaiju or Tsunami, we can't make people feel a global threat is coming from them on a film (in a series why not). That's my advices.
As much as the marketing and merchandise department will hate it they really need to stop carrying the 90s baggage...I don't need any more bloodthirsty monsters that are permanently hungry and don't feel pain, constantly doing crippling damage to themselves for a bite of man-flesh...make everything smaller scale and more intense...and please, please drop those designs that were already out of date when the first movie dropped back in 93
I haven't watched this yet, but I think what really can save the franchise and end it in a good way is either a final trilogy of long movies with some serious plot about either ending the dinosaurs or just learning to coexist instead of chasing bugs, or just a two or three season well established tv show that might take place in a close future, like a little time jump, just like JW had after JP3. What the franchise desperately needs is a good script. Which we didn't have after maybe second movie
8 for me: Give back hybrids instead of bugs. The hybrids something that made JW special, and hybrid haters cry out that no hybrida. We got instead some bugs. We win right? The hybrid line was a chasmine for Universal I think. But bugs are more intresting for somebody sure...
About the “no dinosaur superhero’s” part,I agree because animals don’t have intentions and should just eat whatever whenever there hungy,they should stop making them superhero’s and start making them animalistic.
We need a movie based in the future. Full blown apocalyptic setting. Show how the world has completely changed. Follow a small group of people trying to survive out there with dinosaurs. Maybe have “outlaws” out there too stealing people’s supplies. Make it a story of the main character trying to start a community to rebuild civilization. Could be a really cool twist that could be really intimate. You could build a strong and smart main character but give him a young child that gets has to keep safe to show a soft and desperate side of him too. I’d love to see a completely different direction that focuses more on the people than the dinosaurs
@carlbrutananadilewski1230 I know, a man can dream though lol. In my head I envision an ultimate plot twist where it’s actually asteroids that hit the earth that made civilization crash. Instead of dinosaurs going extinct this time it’s humans 🤯. Could be a wild ass movie
I dont mind dino protags or antagonists. The very first movie even had this which people seem to forget. Rexy was a protagonist in her own right, just not in a traditional sense, and she did save the humans even by accident. Meanwhile the velociraptors where not just animals. They felt extra vicious. They also make it a point to describe how smart and dangerous the leader of them is. She was absolutely hyped up as an antagonist. And how they hunt the kids in the kitchen is not how normal animals hunt. The problem is when they overdo it. Blue got insane level of plot armor defeating dino's that should have destroyed her. Rexy was great as a balanced force of nature, where she can be both a threat and a savior depending on the situation. But the later movies seemed to shove her on screen for the sake of having her in the movie rather then giving her presence real purpose. People seem to ignore some of the things the original movie did when making lists like this. Saying future movies should avoid doing these things as if the older movies never did them. Thats unfair. The old movies did almost everything the new movies did to some level. They just didnt rely on these things like the new movies did nor did they overdo it. At any rate, the first movie 100% had dino antagonists in the raptors. And one can make a case for protag with Rexy. The second movie can make a case for the baby Rex being a sort of protagonist but didnt have clear dino antagonists. The third movie had spino as an antagonist AND protagonist. It was the star of that movie. Opinions of course. ;)
Great Tips. I have two: 1 - I think Nostalgia is a great GREAT way to use JP franchise, bring back Hammond, bring back he building the park, bring back Sorna and its operations, show the park working, its not have to be a disaster and chaos all the time!! JP1 is the greatest because its feels real, Lost World feels possible too. Bring the DESIGN of things back together, forget moderns props, cellphones, GPS, go back to 90s low tech!! 2 - Bring NEW good things. Bring new characters, but not inspired on the old characters. Bring a simple worker from the park, a ranger that see damage fences and have to recuperate species out of the zone. A veterinarian that treats the dinosaurs, day by day on Sorna, make reports to Hammond and Staff. Make us believe that this dinos have a lifespan, that they re alive, roaming, drinking, hunting, sleeping, not machines... Make things misterious again, but realistic! My all time favorite part of the books is when Malcolm and the kids, with Thorn and the others are investigating Ingen Files, maps, trying to discover Sorna location, they do a detective work. Then after with their Equipment and go on a bunch of places in the island itself, no killing, no scares, no danger, just a Safari around, man they settle camp, they have even an High Hide, a observation place that they stayed at least a day. Even Trespasser has this vibe of exploring, and have to visit a place that once had a lifespan of utility. Dont rush things, show one by one. Old movies like alien can expose things with scenes of 8 secongs each, we know Nostromo, even before the characters, why we can't have Sorna and Nublar as character too... I want to feel that JP franchise Is JP, at least not an other product with the same label...
I feel like you can still have more dinosaurs As long as they each feel unique and contribute something valuable to the story You can have quantity and quality
I am optimistic for this new movie, if they can put the best bits from each movies then this could be a great instalment. A small cast, treating the Dino’s like animals, ect we could have another good movie on our hands
6:40 it is the frog DNA, but only in the books. When counterarguing you must begin knowing the argument. So you are right and at the same time you don't know exactly what are you referring to. JP's dinos are not real dinos, but a gentic recreations and both the books and the movies made that clear. This franchise has every right to continue existing the way it is.
The Therizinosaurus and the Dimetrodon pack had the best "species specific" scenes in Dominion. As in, having a new animal feature in a scene based on its own merits rather than "insert x theropod." Examples being the pachy capture from TLW (where the head ramming behavior of the new species was showcased) the pterosaur feeding frenzy (introduces multilayered threats based on the two species present) and the spinosaur boat attack from JP3 (novel in that its swimming ability from the fossil record was displayed.) The therizinosaur and the dimetrodontids were given such scenes. The other introduced animals (big offenders being the pyroraptors, atrociraptors, quetzalcoatlids, giganotosaur) could have been easily replaced with any similar animal.
Your 2nd point about dino superheroes and also the point about tension of the scenes really resonate with what I really have in mind. I think those 2 factors are really important. The JW trilogy looks more like a children movie because neglecting those 2 factors.
There is zero tension in the JW trilogy, and the whole thing feels like a cartoon. Really it is simple; you have animals being animals, and the characters are caught in the middle of it. I 100% that Gareth Edwards is capable of doing this though.
You could turn it into a proper one on one horror movie if you want to or a one person survivor movie a la Cast Away on Isla Nublar or Sorna, but with the added threat of dinos.
7:30 absolute true. As an artist I must say JP's dinos are the coolest and JW are simply stupid. JP 3 made raptors differently. That was a genuine upgrade breaking the franchise model, but totally acceptable.
I actually like Blue. I don't actually mind the dinosaurs being main characters as long as its not many. so far the only "main" bonded dinosaur characters are Blue and Bumpy, and honestly I'm fine with that. now if they went on to make a BUNCH of dinosaurs main characters I'd have a problem, but I think its fine as long as its a very low amount, as animals can and do create bonds with humans sometimes.
I’ve been working on a fictional novel about how mythical monsters of all cultures and religions evolved to be given a form of morality while humans evolved to become monsters. To the story I focused on the world building and characters and didn’t make it a world ending like story more like a trying to survive/rescue mission/discovering dark truths kind of stuff, as for the humans that still lurk around they amalgamate into things they find comfort in like a favorite animal, favorite story, favorite form of entertainment but then have it become corrupted completely, like a human augmenting into a giant mechanical elephant with carriage wheels on the hips and a flame thrower trunk think the monsters from 9 mixed with the uncanny monsters from that Playground trailer, there comes a time when they act subtle and unnerving or outright chaotic, in truth I’m trying my all to make this book pretty memorable and I think adding something to catch the viewers eye would help it maybe artwork, small animations of maybe analog horror, and maybe adding drawings to the book would give the reader a good idea as to what this world looks like
If I had my way I would go the direction of hard reboot. I would make it a limited series rather than a movie, I'd go for a TV-MA rating or whatever the streaming equivalent of that is and I'd follow the book a lot more closely. Instead of being these family friendly blockbusters it'd be an intense sci-fi horror
Tbh it makes so much more sense for the dinos to not be scientifically accurate. The dinosaurs are monsters, not actual dinosaurs, since they're obviously genetically altered and almost created from scratch in the first place.
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Step 1. The dinosaurs shouldn't only target and eat bad guys for some reason. It used to be just kids that had plot armour, now it's the entire cast.
Fr I think Dominion is the first Jurassic movie where the cast grows instead of being cut down
Ye jp 2 Went bald by giving Edie one of the most brutal deaths And killing off some quite likeable characters like AJ
Tbf they never killed off any main characters, it was always the boring side characters that are forgettable for the most part. I’d genuinely love to see a proper horror take on the franchise where most of the cast do die and we get 1 or 2 survivors.
yeah Dr Wu should've died, like the book.
Only the kids need plot armor, everyone else should be fair game
Treat the dinosaurs like animals and not super hero pets.
I've been saying this for so long
I think the Therizinosaurus scene was so good for many reasons:
1. It featured a dino that was barely shown in advertising.
2. It wasn't the usual fast-paced explosive action. It was slow and suspenseful.
3. Aggressive herbivore. Something severely lacking in animal-related media as a whole.
Agreed
Which is odd cause herbivores like ceratopsians, ankylosaurs, and stegosaurs likely had a very short temper irl.
For the third point, Therizinosaurus had the convenience of looking like a carnivore, or a dragon, so…
i dont like aggresive herbivores, it makes sense that a half blind therizino would attack anything close, but it makes more sense for them to run away than fight.
@@imyellowteeth4691 aggressive herbivores exist today, so aggressive herbivorous dinosaurs were also possible, and we definitely need that to subvert expectations already for this series of films at least
Step number one: have it be about dinosaurs and not bugs
Another one is it's a park not a military bio weapon
Yo, _Alamosaurus_ man is here!
But Swine..........It's _prehistoric_ bugs.
Does they eat meat if no then dont protect them again@@Mrloophole
@@jesseduckworth6873
Nah no more Dino parks
Honestly the Therizinosaurus wasn’t just the best scene in Dominion but actually a good scene overall. Maybe even the best scene in the whole JW trilogy and it’s exactly what we need
Exactly, and big reason why it’s so iconic and memorable is because it’s slow and suspenseful, not action-packed explosions, and it has the dino act like a real animal
It instills a sense of dread and fear better than just having another “bigger, badder version of the t-rex”
@@garg4531 ye not only does it act animalistic but I love the bird-like movements and the cool sounds
@@addam6666 Which is also a lot more accurate to how dinosaurs probably were
@@garg4531imagine the gall to even suggest we can know how animals did anything millions of years ago😂😂😂
@@blakeharris58 I did say probably 😅
And it’s more accurate than how they’re usually depicted in movies
(Plus even if we can never be 100% sure we can at least consider evidence we have and what is or isn’t very likely, and make comparisons to their closest living relatives)
How about this? Make dinosaurs, not monsters, but dangerous animals. There's a difference
And yes, don't make T-Rex (or any dino for that matter) Godzilla.
Like how rexy was in the original movie. Her interactions with the vehicles were driven by curiosity, but they were still terrifying and suspenseful
Some dangerous animals can be considered as monsters under the right (or wrong) circumstances sometimes but I get what you mean.
Trex being godzilla is a good thing.
@@TommyPrime4 Yeah, but the point is, its starting to get tiresome. I love a dino fight as much as the next guy but A: It doesn't always have to involve the T-Rex. And B: sometimes, less is more.
Yeah, the dinosaurs appeared infrequently and behaves rather like actual animals. Jurasssic World was a load of balls by comparison, like when the pterosaurs immediately went and attacked a crownd for no reason when their cage was broken
Step 1: No dino lazers. We load the gun, point it at the target, Fire! and a dino will attack them!
Even when the film first came out and my young mind was willing to accept any outlandish ideas movies have...... I thought that was stupid.
You'd think that instead of giving the dinosaur a human brain with a shoddy control chip, they'd give it a dog brain so they can train it like a guard dog, and not need laser pointer nonsense.
Yeah but megamind said, “PRESENTATION!”
I need fear back. I was scarred in jurassic park movies. I didn't have fear for the chracaters, also please turn them into animals.
Responding to one of the notes: The Indominus removed the tracker because it was probably uncomfortable, especially if it shocked her when she got close to a fence. It would’ve been been able to do that in captivity, because they would’ve just kept putting one in. Even Owen just says she remembered it being put in, not that it knew what a tracker was.
Yeah I think that’s what happened too, when the tracker was activated it irritated the I Rex, so she scratched it out. However, the audience will take the characters anthropomorphic interpretations at face value. Owen’s theory is stupid. You don’t just need intelligence to remove a tracker, you need knowledge too. Even a human raised in the same conditions as the I Rex wouldn’t be able to disable the tracker, as they wouldn’t know what it was.
I’d love to see a herbivore be the main antagonist instead of yet another theropod
Antagonist isn't the best wayy of putting it. Threat or obstacle is more appropriate.
Or that a group of angry ceratopsians can be just as life threatening as a Trex.
@@justusb.plorer8773semantics
Name me a movie that a herbivorous animal is the antagonist/obstacle to be overcome.
Maybe the plot is around him being hunted/running from rescue.
I can name one off the top of my head. In 2006, there was a horror/comedy movie called “Mammoth”. Basically an asteroid crashed into a museum in Texas and an alien came out of it and possessed the frozen carcass of a Woolly Mammoth which causes it to come back to life and go on a rampage.
T.rex being a punching bag is Something that always annoyed me since they nerfed the T.rex into oblivion just to hype up the new threat ,you don't need to have the new antagonist stronger then the previous one, it just needs to introduce a new challenge.
I like your point. But Jw franchise went too far. And unfortianatly put up the strenght order of: "How easily beat Rexy?" (Or Big Eatie) The 2 stronggest T-rex in the franchise. If rexes beat simething they just say in their universe that creature even weaker than rexes. So I think Rexy still being punchbag for 1vs1 to plot armor her out. Unfortionatly...
At least against the monstrosity that is the Indominus Rex it makes sense. But yeah, against anything else it’s hard to watch Rex get beat up
@@Mobius118 But on the other hand the fans are get used to Rexy (or any other Tyrannosaurus in Jurassic franchise) get dominated. And in Jurassic franchise Giga is canonicly a strongger creature than Tyrannosaurus rexes. As I said earlier they went too far, to back from that path. The power measuring process is get 1 question: "How easily destroyed Rexy?"
And the level of Rexy's chanceless in 1v1 give the rank of JW ranglist. For me Rexy the perfect example, how to destroy, humulate your own mascot. Phisicly, and in the eye of fans, who not familiar with Rexy's past. Due less and less part of the community is the part who actualy watched JP1 in premiere, and those who started with JW only saw that is Rexy get dominated, and plot shileded always. And that was something wich more and more fans start to hate. Like me. I don't care if Rexy win or lose, until it was fair, and not manipulated battle. I much more love Rexy is she die as a fighter, as a fierce predator who found an even strongger opponent, than see her allive, and know of only plot armor saved her life, when she gived up the fight.
My opinion is Dead like a fighter>>>>>>>> live like a walking punchbag
This is all good advice, but I'd rather see this franchise just end already and make room for new IP that breathes new life into the prehistory genre and gives general audiences a fresh new view on dinosaurs and prehistoric animals. The Jurassic franchise is tired and old.
Tbh, I’d wish the franchise lived on as we can get new content, further worldbuilding, more new characters/species and more figures to collect
Agreed. My hopes aren’t high for this reboot, especially seeing how convoluted and ridiculous the plot was for Dominion when it had such a perfect setup (i.e., how did you guys manage to write a script that had nothing to do with dinosaurs running amok around the world when you were building toward that for two films?). David Koepp likely can’t save this from being a train wreck, but I very much hope that I am wrong.
@@AtrociCollector Exactly, they now have a world populated by dinosaurs.
they can now make several different movies with no relation between them, telling stories with this premise.
We did get 65. It was decent but nothing like JP
@@CLBCrew96 I'd argue that 65 just continued the tired tropes that the Jurassic franchise established, like the monstrous, mindlessly aggressive, lizard-like dinosaurs. We need something more up to date, more interesting and fresh
Step 8. MORE PRACTICAL EFFECTS!!
Gareth Edwards - the director of
*"GODZILLA 2014"* and *"Rogue One"*
- was recently confirmed to be
the new director for *"JURASSIC 7".*
5:36 well that’s good news about dominion’s Giganotosaurus because it didn’t even kill anything in the whole movie.
He killed some bugs.
@@UncleDino98yeah but they were basically dead anyway
It kinda killed a T-Rex in a territorial battle in the intro. Pretty sure it's only in the extended version of the film.
I like your idea about the scale. They should take a note from the Predator franchise. The most recent predator movie chose to dial down the scale and focus more on character and story, and it was all the better because of it
Well said
1. Introduce some intriguing characters again
2. Introduce intriguing antagonists who aren't just evil for the sake of being evil
4. Don't fall back on the known tropes just for the sake of nostalgia bait (like using children in every movie)
3. Bring back the science fiction element
4. Avoid dinosaur caricatures (I'm a T.Rex, I get to bite and roar for the poster)
5. Explore the ethical dilemma's of dinosaurs being reintroduced to the world
6. Paleo-accurate dinosaurs can actually work, if well explained in the plot
7. Write an interesting movie... period! Pretty much all Jurassic sequels just struggle with the script
I'd be up for a dinosaurless prequel. Show the making of the park, the competition between Ingen and Biosyn, the arguments between Hammond and Malcolm about his silly idea, etc. Could be an entirely different cast. It's the dialogue that carried 70% of the original movie.
"7: less nostalgia baiting"
THANK YOU, oh my GOD I'm still pissed off Jurassic World (2015) wasted it's mountain of potential to bend over to nostalgia and the whiney fanboys
Isn’t that dominion? I don’t think jw 1 was nostalgia bait at all. The story is so different frm the jp movies as they gave us an actual functioning/advanced theme park with modern technology as well as focused on the threat of a hybrid dinosaur. Meanwhile in dominion, there were sm nostalgia references to the older films
there's was still some consistencies. Babysitting 2 kids due to a pending divorce end up trapped upside down in a vehicle. Our 2 main love interest teary eyed hunched over dino fighting for its life. Mr. DNA & with heavyweight title fight65 million & 22 years in the making, grand finale. Other than that, iKnow what uMean! iWas reluctant about domesticating raptors for warfare would be absolute slapstick trainwreck. Boy, was iWrong@@AtrociCollector
@@LarrySwishamane u mean when the indominus Rex attacked the gyrosphere w the 2 kids in it? If I rmb correctly, their names are Zach and gray
One thing I disagree with you completely is that there's nothing wrong with having the dinosaurs with names or being characters
I watched the oG film when I was like 4 or 5 and it became my favourite movie ever, watching the JW studio pander to people who loved the original came across as really cheap, tacky and just inauthentic.
I’m still surprised how well the JP3 raptors and Spinosaurus CGI holds up today. In some cases they look way better than JW CGI.
JP3 cgi isn't that great. The practical effects are what stands out. Spinosaurus was and still is the largest animatronic ever built. And that was 2001. Unless the cgi trend ends, we're never going to see something like that again.
JW CGI was actually incredible in loads of cases (only speaking of the first movie, FK and Dominion did have some lackluster cgi at times)
Honestly i thought Jurrasic world cgi looked the worse of the three. Plusses no practical effects @Mobius118
@@DewskyDillshineMoonpickle Yeah I just don’t really like the texturing in the JW CGI. The movements look great, but the skin looks fake and sort of wet. The jp3 raptors and spino, perhaps due to increased use of animatronics, have more real looking skin.
@LightBringer127_dragonart The Spinosaurus is my favorite dinosaur and animatronic from the franchise. Jw triliogy does use animatronics, but not enough. Sometimes, it's too hard to tell which is which. Mybe, that's a good thing, mybe that's a bad thing.
July next year is so fast for an effects heavy movie to be realized, unless they’re way farther along in production than they’re letting on. But at the same time that also might mean they’re going smaller and more “intimate” of a movie
I love how the community turned rexy and the raptors into characters after the first movie, and then got mad when the studio turned them into characters after the first movie
made absolutely no sense whatsoever
@@ThatOneRussianTank I know, Fans are stupid
@@RavenFlag but tbh leave the characterization to the fandom, explains why they are angry, thats what fandoms do.
We keep forgetting that the first two movie was great because they were based on Michael Cricton's novel and he was actually the part of the production (the first movie mainly) Even if Spielberg changed thigs, it worked because it had a strong intellectual base to draw from. Spielberg was not stranger to adapt books to the theater, I think this was the reason they want him (what he did with Jaws) Honestly, nowadays all the creative ppl have a bad time to make something original or noteworthy with this mentality of Hollywood now... :(
I agree that Ceratosaurus is a punching bag in the jurassic series. having that e750 thing kill a cerato serves no purpose but to anger tha fans, every time Cerato appeared before that scene, it was a peaceful carnivore or just chasing intruders off it territory. Also the idea of Indomins breaking out of her paddock, going directly to Rexy's paddock, beating her up, and then heading back towards her paddock sounds hilarious.
I love how this is genuinely constructive and helpful criticism. You give credit where it's due, and you're nuanced. Loved this!
Thank you. I tried to be fair or else my critiques wouldn't seem honest or in good faith.
1- make it a horror movie (not only jumpscare scenes)
2- less characters (make them like regular people who will do anything to get out alive even if he betrayed or left someone to 💀 for his safety)
3- no heroes to save the day
4- dinosaurs attack every one including the good guys not the bad ones only
5- no love stories, center it on survival
6- more bloody scenes like the baby story from the first book
I’m currently rereading the book, that baby bit was something I had forgotten about and my god it does show how horrific this world could be to live in if the dinosaurs were more widespread.
@@dubbingsync exactly, almost everyone who reached the baby scene would find horrifying and unsettling moment.
I still think they could make modern day accurate dinos and pull it off. The series already addressed that the JP dinos aren't accurate at all, so they have the perfect excuse. Make them accurate, as a new in universe way of attracting new visitors, showing dinos as they actually were and not as monsters. And then have those new dinos break loose and make them scary again, by being real. And yes, focus it back on random everyday people facing nature gone bad, we don't need more The Fast And The Dino.
Problem is some of the dinosaurs made by biosyn are said to have pure genes and they look or act little to nothing like their real life counterparts.
@@MSKS-jl2qk in movie wise, the only one claimed to be genetically pure was moros intrepidus, but of course, it could simply be a false claim
Agreed, I'm sick of movie monster dinos.
I've always found accuracy/realism more scary than "monsterfied" creatures anyway.
I absolutely agree with everything you said. I don't mind some action scenes to be more bombastic or comedic than others (things like Gennaro's death in JP or the Main Street attack in JW) but I agree that the best ones are the tense ones (things like the kitchen scene in JP or te therizinosaurus scene in Dominion).
Do people remember the Battle at Big Rock short film?
We need more of that sorta vibe for new movie.
Number 1: Dinosaurs being actually terrifying
There are three main things,
1. Give each character a reason to be in the plot and not just riding along with the plot. Give them character development, grant leaning to love kids more, we should have gotten Ian learning to become a parent, and more, and ellie deciding to go into the bunker to turn on the power.
2. Don’t show to many dinosours, do at least 7 dinosours a movie and 3 new ones each movie, while taking some out from the original seven. Ans make sure these dinosours are more like creatures, they don’t fight just because. Instead we could get a fight between eating the humans seeing them both struggle to snatch a bite.
3. ADD suspense, build up to each creature. I wish we saw a big spine sticking out of the water before the spinosoures came out. I wish we had more suspense like Ellie turning on the fences as we see group 1 on it.
this series definitely comes so show that quality work always beats quantity.
I remember those old concept pieces of human dinosaur hybrids. Looking at the world trilogy now, I think going all out would have been better than a slow pathetic death for this franchise.
small scale yes, but please dont do the remote location escape story again. dominion somehow managed to have a global catastrophe plot while taking place mostly in some valley in the middle of nowhere, without showing anything of the world the good guys had to save
When you realize you’re still saying first by saying “stopping little kids from saying first”🤔
Man get a hobby
First! Will never die, it actually it fills me with butterflies when I see the new gen pick this dumb trend up and keep it going.
Again! Thank you for actually having a opinion that adds to the conversation and giving credit! Its so refreshing ❤
Btw David is no longer the Director for the movie now it’s the dude that made Godzilla 2014
@carlbrutananadilewski1230 owiakks ok smart ass god DAMM could have just said that instead of being rude 💀
If you want Dino Protagonist, make an Extrem Dinosaur movie.
"Let's fossilize 'em!"
@@StoicForce "Saurian Stomp"
I got nothing to add as these are pretty much the exact points I want in a new Jurassic film. After Dominion, I really wish that Jurassic series just took a really long break then came back but hey, "progress always wins" apparently. Let's just hope they learned their lesson from JWD and make a better film.
I think the designs should just go back to being based on 90's paleoart, it made for some absolutely iconic designs, leaving most JW designs bland in comparasion. I'm sure no one will remember the JW Giga in 20 years but everyone will still love the JP rex
I think a blend of scientific accuracy and style is the way to go.
Or update the looks to more scientific version so more people are exposed instead of being locked to the old 90’s look.
I absolutely agree. I think you hit the nail right on the head. Although i'n going to add one point: give your movies a through-plot. I mention this because of the "world" movies. They were clearly setting up for humanoid hybrids and yet all we got was... big... bugs... Give the story a narrative and even if it's bad, at least some of your audience will be more than willing to follow it
6 things:
1. Make them like Jurassic Park again.
2. Add more horror and less cheap jokes
3. Make the dinosaurs behave more like animals and less like Pokemon. Rexy and blue doing some sort of stupid tag team? What?
4. Less Rexy
5. Don't command the damn dinos
6. Give us scene where we're scared. Scared for the characters instead of the MC putting up his hands and stopping the dino or having a character screaming to make things seem funny
My favorites scenes were with the two Trex rampaging throught the city and the one where the Spino was chasing people around.
If we’re being 1000% honest, we will never get an actual good dinosaur movie ever again. People with taste want scientifically accurate dinosaurs in a horror film (which is what I want) but it will never happen unfortunately
Ye because people can’t make a good scene anymore so what they have to do is a “scary” monster and jumpscares
Lucky you my friend. You can make it happen. If you're a director.
@@DryptosaurusDavidWith enough of a budget, I’d assume
Never say never
Make it basically Dead Space but set around the same time as the events in Jurassic Park. Some random team of engineers and scientists who sheltered down during the storm, now trying to get somewhere to send a distress signal and they have to avoid getting eaten.
Sounds awesome!
Regarding the scale, the first couple seasons of camp cretaceous did this really well. In fact, it even did the thing about discovering secrets about masrani and stuff. Till halfway through the second season, two main characters were seriously thought to be dead. Before tye reveal about their survival, a couple episodes were given to show the effects, the guilt of the others. Then it all went to shit when they got to the other island but the first couple seasons? Chefs kiss
Great series when it was only about some teens trying to survive in an island with dinosaurs. They messed it up with all those robots and super advanced technology.
Step 8 : Please have an original story other than BIG BAD CORPORATION/ MILITARY takes hold of dinosaur technology, thinking they can tame the dinosaurs, but they lose control, and things go predicably crazy.
2025 is too soon. Have the release date be 2026, to give everybody more time!
I think what ends up being linked to item 5, although it can be done on a large scale, is to have a script that makes more sense.
Every film, to some degree, has illogical acts, because "otherwise there would be no film".
The JP trilogy has stories that unfold logically, the first two JW work from error to error.
JWD even improves on this, but it almost became an international spy film in which there are dinosaurs.
I published an IG post like two days ago and I'm happy to say that we agreed on basically everything. I don't want to sound overly nasty - I enjoy the first two Jurassic World movies after all - but gosh, stuff needs to be corrected. First of all, I agree with the idea of coming back to something smaller in scale, with the darker, survival horror(ish) atmosphere that characterised the first trilogy, not the bombastic, action packed scenarios we've seen with the second one (especially in Dominion). I think that the smaller dinosaur cast too can be considered as an element playing in favour of a smaller scale; this is an aspect almost everyone seems to forget, but I've been saying that constantly after JWD: quality>quantity. I don't want to sound like a downer, however as you said, while it can be fun to have such a wide cast exploring so many different taxa, there's no point in having it if 90% of the animals are going to be ignored (eg. Iguanodon or Oviraptor) or wasted (Quetzalcoatlus or Pyroraptor). So yeah, I'm for less dinosaurs. Not just that, but I say that for now the franchise should focus on the tons of animals we already have, instead of adding more and more of them. There are many species which could do great with more space, like the aforementioned ones from JWD, let's exploit them before we move onto something else. Finally, I completely, totally, absolutely agree with the designs' point. When I complain about some artistic choices, I get automatically answered by many people "these are movies, they're not demanded to be scientifically valid!" You perfectly encapsulated my thoughts in one single phrase: being unscientific doesn't excuse ugly designs. In all honesty btw, talking about dinosaur medias in general, I think having some more accuracy in dinosaurs' portrayals would be great. Subjectively speaking, I will always prefer them to whatever Hollywood will ever come up with, but also objectively, I think that a more updated view on dinosaurs in cinema (like many games are doing) would be something incredibly fresh and original, other than educational. As always, sorry for the huge wall of text people😂
PS: I'm glad you pointed out how the franchise needs to stop using the T. rex as a punching bag for other theropods in those Marvel-ish battles. Tyrannosaurus doesn't need to fight with always new bigger badder carnivores to be an awesome animal. Leave Rexy alone
I had an idea for a movie called Jurassic World: Fallout where a nuclear power plant melted down in the vicinity of the Biosyn Valley where they have to save the dinosaurs from fire and stuff. But now I realize that a nuclear fallout just on the valley doesn't make much sense, but I don't want it to be like you said, "possibly world ending."
Part of why I want this movie not to be part of the JW Continuity, is cause I want a redesign for many of the dinosaurs they already have, cause some are very lazy and badly designed, like the bary, tarbo, giga, allo, etc
If they want to return these dinosaurs, I’d love to see some changes that make them more faithful to the animal.
JWE Allosaurus looks okay tho.
@@WhyTho525 it’s honestly one of the best allos they have ever done, but of course JW doesn’t use game or website art designs
Agreed! I mean, it's all the same continuity or at least it thinks it is. Definitely needs to move away from some of those JW designs though
@@redraptorwrites6778 ye, I have doubts they would change them if it would be still part of the continuity.
Changes to make it closer to the actual animal would be appreciated.
And giving it something more creative like the coloring to make them stand out or look more stunning instead of the same Shades of blue, grays or browns.
Just like good JP trilogy color schemes, especially those in games
Less dinosaurs and more fear. More emotions and less big drama. More simple stories. I miss the first movie (even the the second one) so much.
Step eight: accept that Jurassic World is on level with Jurassic Park and TLW.
Absolutely underrated point
+Don,t be afraid to kill of a main character…
How to make a good Jurassic Park movie.
Step 1:Add focus to dramatic tension between characters. It adds a bit of suspense waiting for the dinos to start killing people, makes the deaths and survivals later much more satisfying, and elevates it from just being standard action movie
Step 2:Bring back practical effects for dinos. Not for every dino in every scene, just a splash of it sometimes in critical moments
Step 3:Make the dinos act somewhat like animals. In the original you could totally pet the smaller herbivores, the velociraptors were slightly smarter than my pet cats with their smartest moment being able to open doors, and even Lost World had TRex protecting their baby. When you turn them into monsters with the intelligence of a human then they aren’t dinosaurs anymore and could be replaced with any other monster and the movie would stay the same
Step 4:Very slight focus on politics of the park for a bit of world building. How did they get the funding for this after 6 terrible incidents? What safety measures do they take now? Do they actually care about the dinos or is it just profit? What is the park’s plan for if a breakout occurs? Etc.
If you follow these steps you can turn any bad Jurassic Park movie into a good one
I really wanna see the original carnosaurus from the books. Could even have it be a “oh they’re hybrids” sitch
I know he said they’re already stuck with the outdated designs for some species, but I’d love to see a more modern looking Dilophosaurus, they’re my favourite dinosaur and they consistently get made way smaller because of one movie’s interpretation
Ad much as I’m feeling a bit sick of Tim making fun of Jurassic World, this is actually a useful video for what the next movie should be like.
What this franchise need is a genre reboot. Turn this into a horror film like the books then see the numbers.
best thing they have done is the mini film they did camping in the woods should have been feature length
WHAT?! I loved blue😭 Her relationship with Owen added a layer of connection that was very modern and timely. Humans always connect with animals, and it was nice having a fictional creature to root for and not knowing what to expect of. Owen's relationship to animals and how he connects with them was such a fun addition to JW. Hard disagree! Well made video but wanted to make that point
Add on: I agree that the movie doesn't need to have excess CGI
Stop giving the characters plot armor to survive literally everything. There's no stakes because you know the main characters are too valuable for hollywood marketing to die. In the original JPs and Lost World, characters got injured frequently if not outright killed, regardless of whether they were main characters or ones we spent less time with, and that really keeps you on the edge of your seat
I hope we get a Jurassic Franchise movie where some humans and some dinos are working together; humans pack bond with absolutely effing ANYTHING, why is there no cases of humans and dinos co-existing except in the Black Market during Dominion, where it's not even cooperative co-existence? Why are there no cases of a troodon adopting a human family because it's smart enough to figure out that not attacking humans is a good way to get food and affection? No instances of one of the massive marine reptiles like the Mosasaurus deciding it likes a random ship and decides to act like it has found a pod-mate? A Pteranodon that has decided it likes the nice humans who leave food out for it, so it brings them random shiny crap it finds, like an enormous crow?
Universal: WRITE THAT DOWN
There's a Jurassic World short film, Battle at Big Rock. I want a 2 hour version of that.
Yall gotta admit dominion did tension PERFECTLY with the theri scene
I have no problem with having a lot of dinosaurs, though I think we should have a number (10 or 12) of them that should have most of the screen time.
Thery scene is the best scene after Lost World, and even there only 1 is better, the trailer
Step 1 make Camp Cretaceous live action and gritty.
Step 2 - Take it seriously. We don't want funny quips that rarely land every five minutes
Step 3 - Dinosaurs are enough.
Step 4 - No time travel or multiverses please XD.
Step 5. Prioritise the script and theory over CGI and ADR. Jaws and JP were so good because the script felt real. Characters mumbled and tripped up on what they were saying and it felt real. Now everything is too squeaky clean.
Step 6 make the cast believable. We don't need buff actors, or stereotypical geeks. We need real feeling people.
I think another point on scale thats important is the scale of the physical space of the films. Even though I enjoyed the first jurassic world I felt like the scale of the park and the island was all off. I was super excited to see the park actually funcitoning and the film tried to show that but instead it sort of fell flat. The park didnt seem big enough or spread out enough and it seemed like it was too easy for characters to get from one place to the other. The great thing about the first movie was that it showed how spread apart eveything was. Grant and the Kids had to travel for hours to get from one side of the park back to the control center. Nedry got lost driving through the forest towards the docks. For the first movie it just seemed like it was too easy for characters to get back and forth, even though they had cars. Characters drive from the IRex enclosure back to the control room so frequently. Specifically the scenes with all the paddock gates lined up. Why are they so close together?
I totallt agree with your points about scaling back the numbe of dinos and having more quality over quantity. I think the second and third films really suffered from this.
I really think having any faith In Universal to do right by the franchise Is laughable. They are totally out of touch.
The next Jurasic World movie will be legendary if they take your advice. Let's hope they see it.
For point one: more species is fine, if they are done well. Jed failed this by having a ton just be background creatures, or having less than a minute of them.
And more species is why I’m a proponent of JW should be going with a series, rather than a movie franchise. More time to breathe.
If they make a new saga I think it would be better to make it an anthology, with a new cast for each film. One of the problems with Jurassic World was constantly wanting to bring back the characters of Claire and Owen when their relevance ended with the first film. Resulting with having the two main characters whith no character arc in the sequels and their presence and their exposure to new conflicts seems very contrived.
Also I think we need to focus again on having a statement, a message. And then add the dinosaurs to the story as a force of nature supporting or contradicting this statement. We must not make dinosaurs as characters but as amoral entities just like in the first film and the classics of the genre (Alien, Jaws).
At last I do think they need to reduce the scale, fewer dinosaurs (why not having 100% new dinos, I think we are ready for a Jurassic film without T.rex or Velociraptor since we already got six movies with them), a smaller cast but endearing and the feeling that anyone can die to add suspense. No longer go for “bigger = better”, new threats can be unexpected dinosaurs, humans or even just a natural event. A global story doesn't work for Jurassic World, the dinosaurs are not Kaiju or Tsunami, we can't make people feel a global threat is coming from them on a film (in a series why not). That's my advices.
As much as the marketing and merchandise department will hate it they really need to stop carrying the 90s baggage...I don't need any more bloodthirsty monsters that are permanently hungry and don't feel pain, constantly doing crippling damage to themselves for a bite of man-flesh...make everything smaller scale and more intense...and please, please drop those designs that were already out of date when the first movie dropped back in 93
Just getting rid of the "Talk to the hand" move would be a massive improvement. There was a reason it worked in JW, they should have left it there.
They lost the best director a couple of days ago now im a bit worried 🙁
I haven't watched this yet, but I think what really can save the franchise and end it in a good way is either a final trilogy of long movies with some serious plot about either ending the dinosaurs or just learning to coexist instead of chasing bugs, or just a two or three season well established tv show that might take place in a close future, like a little time jump, just like JW had after JP3. What the franchise desperately needs is a good script. Which we didn't have after maybe second movie
8 for me: Give back hybrids instead of bugs.
The hybrids something that made JW special, and hybrid haters cry out that no hybrida. We got instead some bugs. We win right? The hybrid line was a chasmine for Universal I think. But bugs are more intresting for somebody sure...
About the “no dinosaur superhero’s” part,I agree because animals don’t have intentions and should just eat whatever whenever there hungy,they should stop making them superhero’s and start making them animalistic.
We need a movie based in the future. Full blown apocalyptic setting. Show how the world has completely changed. Follow a small group of people trying to survive out there with dinosaurs. Maybe have “outlaws” out there too stealing people’s supplies. Make it a story of the main character trying to start a community to rebuild civilization. Could be a really cool twist that could be really intimate. You could build a strong and smart main character but give him a young child that gets has to keep safe to show a soft and desperate side of him too. I’d love to see a completely different direction that focuses more on the people than the dinosaurs
Then if you wanted to, you could come back and make a prequel to show the moment civilization got turned upside down
@carlbrutananadilewski1230 I know, a man can dream though lol. In my head I envision an ultimate plot twist where it’s actually asteroids that hit the earth that made civilization crash. Instead of dinosaurs going extinct this time it’s humans 🤯. Could be a wild ass movie
I dont mind dino protags or antagonists. The very first movie even had this which people seem to forget. Rexy was a protagonist in her own right, just not in a traditional sense, and she did save the humans even by accident. Meanwhile the velociraptors where not just animals. They felt extra vicious. They also make it a point to describe how smart and dangerous the leader of them is. She was absolutely hyped up as an antagonist. And how they hunt the kids in the kitchen is not how normal animals hunt. The problem is when they overdo it. Blue got insane level of plot armor defeating dino's that should have destroyed her. Rexy was great as a balanced force of nature, where she can be both a threat and a savior depending on the situation. But the later movies seemed to shove her on screen for the sake of having her in the movie rather then giving her presence real purpose.
People seem to ignore some of the things the original movie did when making lists like this. Saying future movies should avoid doing these things as if the older movies never did them. Thats unfair. The old movies did almost everything the new movies did to some level. They just didnt rely on these things like the new movies did nor did they overdo it.
At any rate, the first movie 100% had dino antagonists in the raptors. And one can make a case for protag with Rexy. The second movie can make a case for the baby Rex being a sort of protagonist but didnt have clear dino antagonists. The third movie had spino as an antagonist AND protagonist. It was the star of that movie.
Opinions of course. ;)
1- NO plot armor, main characters should be eaten.
2- NO modern political agendas
3- NO goofiness, must be serious and scary
Great Tips. I have two:
1 - I think Nostalgia is a great GREAT way to use JP franchise, bring back Hammond, bring back he building the park, bring back Sorna and its operations, show the park working, its not have to be a disaster and chaos all the time!! JP1 is the greatest because its feels real, Lost World feels possible too. Bring the DESIGN of things back together, forget moderns props, cellphones, GPS, go back to 90s low tech!!
2 - Bring NEW good things. Bring new characters, but not inspired on the old characters. Bring a simple worker from the park, a ranger that see damage fences and have to recuperate species out of the zone. A veterinarian that treats the dinosaurs, day by day on Sorna, make reports to Hammond and Staff. Make us believe that this dinos have a lifespan, that they re alive, roaming, drinking, hunting, sleeping, not machines...
Make things misterious again, but realistic! My all time favorite part of the books is when Malcolm and the kids, with Thorn and the others are investigating Ingen Files, maps, trying to discover Sorna location, they do a detective work. Then after with their Equipment and go on a bunch of places in the island itself, no killing, no scares, no danger, just a Safari around, man they settle camp, they have even an High Hide, a observation place that they stayed at least a day. Even Trespasser has this vibe of exploring, and have to visit a place that once had a lifespan of utility. Dont rush things, show one by one. Old movies like alien can expose things with scenes of 8 secongs each, we know Nostromo, even before the characters, why we can't have Sorna and Nublar as character too...
I want to feel that JP franchise Is JP, at least not an other product with the same label...
I feel like you can still have more dinosaurs
As long as they each feel unique and contribute something valuable to the story
You can have quantity and quality
I am optimistic for this new movie, if they can put the best bits from each movies then this could be a great instalment. A small cast, treating the Dino’s like animals, ect we could have another good movie on our hands
6:40 it is the frog DNA, but only in the books. When counterarguing you must begin knowing the argument. So you are right and at the same time you don't know exactly what are you referring to. JP's dinos are not real dinos, but a gentic recreations and both the books and the movies made that clear. This franchise has every right to continue existing the way it is.
Step one: Stop nerfing the T. Rex.
The Therizinosaurus and the Dimetrodon pack had the best "species specific" scenes in Dominion. As in, having a new animal feature in a scene based on its own merits rather than "insert x theropod." Examples being the pachy capture from TLW (where the head ramming behavior of the new species was showcased) the pterosaur feeding frenzy (introduces multilayered threats based on the two species present) and the spinosaur boat attack from JP3 (novel in that its swimming ability from the fossil record was displayed.) The therizinosaur and the dimetrodontids were given such scenes. The other introduced animals (big offenders being the pyroraptors, atrociraptors, quetzalcoatlids, giganotosaur) could have been easily replaced with any similar animal.
Your 2nd point about dino superheroes and also the point about tension of the scenes really resonate with what I really have in mind. I think those 2 factors are really important. The JW trilogy looks more like a children movie because neglecting those 2 factors.
There is zero tension in the JW trilogy, and the whole thing feels like a cartoon. Really it is simple; you have animals being animals, and the characters are caught in the middle of it. I 100% that Gareth Edwards is capable of doing this though.
trex needs to shake it’s butt in 3D
You could turn it into a proper one on one horror movie if you want to or a one person survivor movie a la Cast Away on Isla Nublar or Sorna, but with the added threat of dinos.
7:30 absolute true. As an artist I must say JP's dinos are the coolest and JW are simply stupid. JP 3 made raptors differently. That was a genuine upgrade breaking the franchise model, but totally acceptable.
And no more annoying child character with different family issues, I swear everytime I see them I want to skip the scene entirely
You could just make a more book accurate version of Jurassic Park, Henry Wu being eaten alive, Nedry getting torn open, the river raft scene
I actually like Blue. I don't actually mind the dinosaurs being main characters as long as its not many. so far the only "main" bonded dinosaur characters are Blue and Bumpy, and honestly I'm fine with that. now if they went on to make a BUNCH of dinosaurs main characters I'd have a problem, but I think its fine as long as its a very low amount, as animals can and do create bonds with humans sometimes.
I’ve been working on a fictional novel about how mythical monsters of all cultures and religions evolved to be given a form of morality while humans evolved to become monsters.
To the story I focused on the world building and characters and didn’t make it a world ending like story more like a trying to survive/rescue mission/discovering dark truths kind of stuff, as for the humans that still lurk around they amalgamate into things they find comfort in like a favorite animal, favorite story, favorite form of entertainment but then have it become corrupted completely, like a human augmenting into a giant mechanical elephant with carriage wheels on the hips and a flame thrower trunk think the monsters from 9 mixed with the uncanny monsters from that Playground trailer, there comes a time when they act subtle and unnerving or outright chaotic, in truth I’m trying my all to make this book pretty memorable and I think adding something to catch the viewers eye would help it maybe artwork, small animations of maybe analog horror, and maybe adding drawings to the book would give the reader a good idea as to what this world looks like
If I had my way I would go the direction of hard reboot. I would make it a limited series rather than a movie, I'd go for a TV-MA rating or whatever the streaming equivalent of that is and I'd follow the book a lot more closely. Instead of being these family friendly blockbusters it'd be an intense sci-fi horror
Tbh it makes so much more sense for the dinos to not be scientifically accurate. The dinosaurs are monsters, not actual dinosaurs, since they're obviously genetically altered and almost created from scratch in the first place.