I don't get it. I drive a truck and there are SO many ways you could sleep on or in it that do not include *under* it. In the bed? Great! It starts raining? Hop inside! If you are that tired you will fall asleep sitting up.
Something about being crushed to death while everyone around is distracted by happy music is just really horrific. It could make good material for a horror movie or video game
The staff members who heard her screaming and didn't check it out should have been investigated. They knew the show didn't include screams of agony. Also, they would've noticed that Debbie didn't go onstage to greet the audience.
@@aimemari no disney and how they do their breaks and how ppl clock out is very meticulous and planned out and usually everyone working is aware of when others are on break or have clocked out. they just probably couldnt be assed to check out what was happening which is very sad
It’s sad that 95% of these stories seem to be preventable. And not just at one point, but they could have been prevented multiple times throughout these events.
One of the most common things people think right before they do something stupid and get killed is "Bad things dont happen to me, they happen to strangers"
My sister got her leg caught in a ride at a arcade when we were little it was spinning around and dragging her under, a giant guy seen it ,came over lifted the machine with one hand and pulled her leg out the mechanism with the other, he was a hero that day.
Guys that make these types of rides have a responsibility to the public to clearly post any dangerous areas of the machine and make parents aware of that danger… They should have had to pay a hefty settlement to learn there lesson…
@@KevinBrown-em3ng god I miss the days when people actually took some responsibility for their kids. Jesus Christ, I don't know how we survived in the 70s
@@matthewcullen1298 Heck yea man I almost died a thousand times I can remember . I’m just like u I can’t believe we made it out alive . But it’s so simple to realize something is dangerous and post it with signage . It’s just the moral thing to do . Just a heads up is nice cause these kids now days aren’t as aware I don’t feel like of the dangers surrounding them . Maybe I wrong and they do , but I just don’t feel like they do cause I’ve raised 5 myself .
A list of places to sleep other than under the truck: -In the truck -the truck bed -On top of the truck if you’re really desperate -Anywhere but under the mf truck -seriously why would you crawl under a truck to sleep especially on a beach like dude come on.
The sand is nice and cool so it does make sense if you've been to crystal beach in the summer but also not something I'd ever do because of the tides. It's strange for someone who lives in the area to forget but people get tired I guess.
@@dakotahuff2276 i mean i would understand maybe falling asleep on the beach even if its a bit weird in the middle of the night but why under the truck?? i could excuse if it was he lied down fell asleep and got washed away thatd be sad and suck and its still a bad idea but why would you sleep under a truck in any circumstance? especially if its YOUR TRUCK?
@@TrojanLube69 Ive been beyond exhausted and your brain is slower to react or to process something...but sleeping under a truck on a beach. I wouldnt even do it on a pond where the tides dont change. I would have backed up away from the water and slept in the bed or looked for a motel. Im a female so I think about safety first. His brain was completely shut off. Maybe he had a stroke or heart attack and crawled under and died.
I really don't understand why he slept under his truck. Who does that? Why not sleep IN the truck? Sleeping under the truck (when he knew the tide was coming) seems like a super irrational thing to do. Like wtf.
@@mirza6399 Yeah, sleeping on a bed is more comfortable than sleeping under a truck I mean seriously? Who the hell does that? I get home from working hard I'm bone tired my ass stays home.
@@ethanrivers4057 but it was an accident, she tripped and fell INTO the tight narrow space. Why would anyone go into a narrow gap just for them to die?
I especially like how in true crime cases he talks more about the victim then the perpetrator. Almost all true crime videos I watch it's like "Oh the victim yeah he was cool he lit up the room and he's kinda chill" and then proceeds to give the entire life story of the POS that killed them.
Some things I've learned on this channel: 1) Follow all safety precautions all the time. 2) When people have safety measures in place, do them. 3) Obey safety precautions. 4) If someone warns you that something is not safe or you should take precautions, do that thing. Do the precaution.
5) Never decide to not follow the safety measures 6) Read the signs more than once, you might have forgotten the first thing they said like "TURN BACK NOW"
I couldn't imagine sitting through that show thinking that the blood-curdling screams were the sound effect option that Disney chose to use during the stage transitions.
Yeah, and if the audience could hear it then the staff definitely could too. And unless they were all first-timers, I think they would know whether or not blood-curdling screams were part of their show
You’re actually doing a great public service by telling these true stories about normal average people who don’t pay attention to warnings and end up losing their lives. It makes everyone aware that yes, it can happen to anyone even you. People take for granted that their life is vulnerable when they go places that they shouldn’t. Thanks John. Keep up the incredible work.
@@TheTwigLord The photo in my profile is my graduation from the FBI National Academy in November of 2000 with the 203rd session. Maybe that’s what gave the feeling lol.
The poor girl stuck between the stages !! What a horrific story !! I couldn't even begin to imagine the fear, desperation and pain this young woman went through ?! As for the staff and Disney !! As a parent, I'd of burnt Disney to the ground and got my own justice.
It didn’t happen the way it was told here. *@embramorgan6720 9 months ago the story is not as he told it. The center did not move, the seats rotated around the center stage which was divided up into different sets. She was crushed in between the wall of the rotating seat section and a stationary wall of the stage. It took only a moment, she didn't scream bloody murder like everyone says, and a person seated near the incident saw her vanish behind the wall and heard a brief scream and he alerted operators. They recovered her immediately.*
I've (quickly) gone from that person who "jjust found this channel and can't stop binging it" to the person who has now watched it all, and anxiously awaits new episodes.
That's how we all started! And how we all can't wait! Welcome to the Strange, Dark & Mysterious Fam! Mr Ballen is truly an addiction from which none of us want a cure. ✌️
Had heard about the last one before, but never in that format and with the details. What a horrible way to die... Great coverage of the events! Always top-notch quality.
@@dankone3 A good example is a diving one where one of the divers lived and other died. Dive Talk had the one who lived on their show talk about that in detail and it varied quite a bit from Mr. Ballens video.
@@mortimerbrewster3671 When an engineer or an operator of some sort for a dam tells you that a certain area is dangerous, believe them! The mayor royally fucked up by not taking his advice seriously assuming that it wasn’t too dangerous while not understanding the science behind the unfinished dam. An unfortunate end for those involved.
I've heard about Debbie multiple times, but I NEVER heard that that she was reportedly alive and screaming throughout the show!?!? Christ, that poor girl. :(
No idea where he got his info from, but I did some research years ago and nowhere was it mentionned that she was still alive and screaming after the first time she started to get dragged around. People did indeed hear screaming but never said it was repeated throughout the show. And even if she somehow survived the first rotation, she wouldn't have had the strength to scream. Her internal injuries + the extreme pain and shock would have made it impossible. Logically, had she survived the first rotation and was well enough to still scream and be heard, it would have meant her injuries were artificial and she would have be able to survive until and after the end of the show. Also, the video doesn't emphasize how *incredibly* narrow the space was. There simply was no way she could have survived longer than a few seconds.
@@prettygneissproductionsyes I e read about it several places and never heard this. I enjoy the channel immensely but this feels like dramatisation for the sake of a story tbh
@@secretarmyl1795how do you know Mr. Ballen didn't find interviews with more details than Wikipedia? He may have even talked to witnesses himself who knows
oh i see, it's another tall tale from ballen lol. c'mon y'all, what's more likely, john TRACKED DOWN WITNESSES or misreported stuff he read on the internet?
Debbie's death was so horrifying. I can't imagine her pain during the ordeal. And hearing those ppl around you while you scream helplessly for help is so heartwrenchingly sad.
Wow yeah... ignoring blood curdling screams at a show in Disneyland?! What in the heck? If it was a Halloween special that would be a lot more excusable. Even staff ignoring this? Horrible
That last story is haunting. So many people heard her scream, she could have been saved - cannot grasp how not one single person took the screams seriously. And what a horrible way to die.
And this wasn't a horror attraction either....this was a frkn peaceful jolly singing bs , how would horrified screaming in nothing but terror be a part of the show? What type of idiots were in there? And the staff?????? They should have known a person screaming for their life wasn't part of puppets singing songs about america, just wtf was wrong with all these people. Sure outside in a theme park screaming is normal, but inside where singing should be the only thing heard? And I might add that a person screaming on a roler coster and a person screaming from being crushed alive probably sound different no matter what.....I'm so so angry at this situation... ALSO why did she even work there if they started the attraction without her anyway? If they had only checked why she wasn't on stage to greet the audience that time around....unless she switched shifts at this moment with someone else. People should always take someone screaming for help seriously, frkn Disneyland included.
I know! What I can't get is how people, including staff who had seen the show numerous times, thought the screams and cries were a part of the show. And even if you'd never seen the show before, why on Earth would a happy Disney World show have bloodcurdling screams in it? I know it's easy to judge when we're looking back, but I have a hard time understanding how everyone wrote the screams off as part of the show,.
Just the herd mentality....if nobody else is reacting, the people who do feel uneasy do nothing as well. Just like when a person asks a group if there is any questions, everyone stays silent, even though there is questions on peoples minds.
Unless the name of that attraction was “America Sings Proudly Presents: The Charles Manson Murders”, I’m pretty confident I would assume some girl’s agonized, continuous screaming mean shit has gone wrong and are NOT part of the attraction. But hey, maybe I’m just paranoid.
Especially since the staff there had probably worked that one show day in and day out knowing every fucking second of what’s going on /what’s going to happen next in the show . The second they heard the blood curl screaming someone should of gone to check
Sure, you're that special person. I hate how you always have to read the same tiresome 'I would've reacted sooo much better' comments. You probably wouldn't have done shit, and if the people that were there were watching this video instead, they probably would've said the same bs.
17:45 never just assume someone screaming for "help" is a joke or part of an attraction. As a former employee of an amusement park that had several deaths during my short time there, this is terrifying
To be stuck in a rotating machine and crushed to death while everyone around you is having a good time sounds incredibly terrifying. It makes it more disturbing
The last story was unbelievably heartbreaking. To anybody that reads this, please, I beg you, don't ignore your instincts. If you hear a scream, a noise that worries you, or anything that gives you a bad feeling about anything, please speak up and say something. The worst thing that'll happen to you is people might think you're weird or paranoid. The worst thing that'll happen to someone else is them losing there life.
Hi. Dawn again. On my boyfriends account. I agree!! I have always listened. Or. Wished I did. So. I listen now and. Taught my children ( grown now ) ** when in doubt , GET OUT.. ** ALWAYS listen to your tummy I told them!!!
Problem is people who suffer from paranoia their whole life have to ignore some or many of their instinctive red alerts and people who know them also begin to tell them down. Gradually there's an urge to supress it. While the last story should have raised enough red flags, there are chances that other similar incidents could be ignored.
Yeah, that's what had me. If I'm on some happy, children friendly ride and I hear blood curdling screams for help. I can't imagine ever thinking "Oh, this is totally normal and not a problem. It's all good."
I suddenly remembered this one being my first MrBallen video, back in late 2022. That day marked the start of a new addiction for me. He is currently my favourite TH-camr/Podcast Artist!
Only true fans miss the days when he said "3, 4, or even 5 times every week." Edit: People love to taking things out of context. Anyone that says "Oh you don't care about him because he has a life and has things to deal with. He needs a break, he's exhausted." Obviously I don't want him to feel pressured to make content. He should be able to live a relaxed life without stressing about content. Im just complimenting him on how entertaining he is as a content creator/story teller.
There was news years ago, a woman with her husband and chidlren, was going on an attraction that spins around jn the darkness with something like those mechanical dolls. The woman was scared, but she boarded the ride anyways THEN she decided to get off in second thought right before the ride started. She fell in some tiny gap between all those spinning machinary, and died in a similar fashion as the story. Except the whole family was right there beside her, unable to do anything, as she SLOWLY got crushed to death. I remember watching the news on tv and my parents were saying how we should never, EVER attempt to get out of a ride no matter how scared you are, once you get on. Don't be embarrassed of your fears or peer pressure, if you don't want to do something, don't do it.
There was no reason in that attraction for what would most likely have been blood-curdling screaming. Even if the audience thought it was part of the ride, WTF was wrong with the staff? Working that attraction all the time, they would have known it was not part of the show and they only thought to look AFTER? And while I hate to blame the victim, why wouldn't she be screaming something to the effect of, "STOP THE MOTHER FUCKING RIDE! I'M STUCK, ASSHOLES!!!" In the happiest place on Earth, especially in the 70s, they would have known that was not normal.
I know exactly what you mean! I have lived near Crystal Beach for 40 years, and have slept on the beach as a kid with parents…never as an adult! Edit: this beach is usually remote enough at night that one can park on it and not even be able to see a single car or other human.
Shaher Mansoor a lot of people put too much trust in common sense. Common sense is wrong a lot of the time. I see it in investing and engineering, I’ve spent many years in both fields. Actively thinking/learning is far better than trusting common sense
I don’t wanna end up strange, dark and mysteriously delivered by story format but if I do I want it to be told by you bro! Thanks for keeping the wheel spinning and these peoples stories, lessons and warnings alive! Totally love this stuff! Keep up the greatness
I can't believe how long Mr. Ballen's hair has gotten! He was short haired when I first discovered him! Short hair and less than 500k subs! So much has changed for him in a year! So happy for him and his crew!!
Debbie's death was horrendous! You're basically being ground alive. How in the world could her coworkers think that was part of the show. I'm sure that they'd have to be somewhat familiar with the routine and it's weird that they wouldn't be able to recognize that kind of blood curling scream. That part of it seems fishy to me.
My experience of working with younger, inexperienced workers makes it somewhat plausible, these are usually low paying jobs, holiday jobs, and the younger workers sometimes even for all the reasons I can come up with to give them the benefit of the doubt, are bafflingly ignorant and oblivious, and that's the construction industry by the way, where everything can induce injury. 😑
@@ronyozamoto2216 Yeah, unfortunately with younger worker I also think there is a tendency to assume nothing can go wrong. Not that older workers don't make stupid decisions too it's just young people tend to think they're invincible so this blood curdling scream can't be somebody getting hurt.
Anytime I've heard the Disney story in the past, they only mention that she was crushed when the stage moved. But not that she was crushed while the stage moved through it's entire program. That's truly horrifying!
Yup they changed only how the wings can breakaway but at least once in the 80s once I saw a host caught and had to shove and crack the panel because once that giant carousel was in motion it was almost impossible to stop it since it was part of the whole world of automation motif where the humans are only narrators and radio communications were still spotty inside buildings with a lot of metal and dampening materials. The show was shut down for the rest of the day and it was kept as quiet as possible but locals knew the history.
what is that "Adamant Forge" dude talking about?? lol hes making no sense; to me at least , idk lol but mrballen is a great story teller. GOD Bless to you and your fam.
When you mentioned how they refused the life jackets, I totally remembered how my family would go white water rafting in Sacramento. It was lots of fun and a bit dangerous when we would hit the rapids. It was always dangerous. Life jackets were mandatory. Especially for me cuz I was only like 2 or 3 years old. Normally, we would hit the rapids and get tossed about but nothing to major. This time, we flipped and got dumped out, and the water was thrashing about, and we all got separated. I was floating away into some rocks when my mom grabbed me. She later said I held on to her so hard I almost choaked her. The life jackets made all the difference that day. A simple raft ride could have had a much worse ending. That did scare my parents something good. Just how quickly things can change. Especially when you don't know how to swim. Life jackets should never be a question. It is so sad for the people in the story to have such a horrendous way beyond scary encounter.
Life jackets are just like wearing helmets on a bike. You don’t expect to be thrown into the water but it’s no hassle to have one on just in case. I am curious if the life jackets would have been enough to actually prevent those people getting sucked into the tunnels though.
Your parents brought a toddler white water rafting? That is so incredibly stupid - not quite as stupid as sleeping under a truck but close. Like bro your parents shouldn’t have kids
As a kid, my family played in a nearby river quite frequently on hot days, but always downstream from the dam. My dad always said, "It's not what you see, it's what you DON'T see." We listened but thought it strange, until we had a drought that exposed a lot of the dam. I remember being terrified by the huge drop and massive trees exposed to air. Huge lesson learned about water that day. It's always what you don't see that will kill you.
I was living near a river and use to go up to my ankles. That's it, and even thats pushing it, but I know the water pretty well. Some random girl come up to me and asks how to go swimming, how to get the water. And at the time I was looking up at her from the shore line. I told her it's a bad idea this river is dangerous but she doesn't belive me, it looks calm. So I look at her and grab a stick near by and throw it bit behind me and it completely disappeared. The current sucked it in and it was gone. She just walked away. Hope she didn't go into the water
"He was totally exhausted, but he wanted to unwind a bit." "I get that. We've all felt that way." "So he ended up driving for hours to the ocean to go fishing." ".....Never mind."
I was thinking the same thing. I live and work in the Houston area. Being exhausted I’m just saying “F the hell outta that” with his idea. Crystal Beach from any part of the city to fish for a bit? Let alone sleep under the truck, rather than inside it? If I wanted to unwind a bit something at home I could do would’ve been more sufficient than a 2 hour drive to fish when I had another long ass day ahead of me.
@@trinitysolutionsoffroad7623 Unfortunately the family doesn’t have a lot of money to hire expensive lawyers. Disney can and have been known to drag cases for long periods of time.
RE: Debbie Stone/America Sings- I tried to understand what was being said, but it didn't make sense with the mention of a "storage area" being involved. The America Sings attraction had the same setup as the Carousel of Progress, which is that the stage areas (and any central location behind them) are stationary and the theater portions (where the audience sits) rotate around them. There is a theater portion for nearly every stage and they all revolve together to the next stage after each performance finishes. There is also a freestanding wall on either side of the theater portions that rotates with it to enclose your performance from the nextdoor performances. What happened to Debbie is she got too close to the back wall of the building itself and one of the walls that rotates with the theater portion she was in and was crushed/dragged with said wall. This was after a group had just finished a performance and left her theater and before receiving a new group. And she wasn't just ignored. A man cited in the investigation, who was in the theater on the opposite side of the wall, saw her (he said he thought it was a child that had been pulled between the walls) and had heard her scream. He notified the ride operator when the theater stopped moving. I'd heard this story a number of times ages ago and it was never that she was dragged for the entire 24 minute duration of the full show. Being crushed and dragged mechanically against a building by a wall for even one rotation (which is pretty slow) to the next stage definitely would have been enough to cause serious internal injuries. Also, it was a goofy, upbeat show, so it would really make 0 sense for a bunch of people to think someone screaming was "part of the show" anyway. Not like it's the Haunted Mansion. They installed a safety measure immediately after this happened that alerted the ride operator whenever someone walked within a certain perimeter of any area where this could occur and then later made the walls on the theaters breakaway.
I had been on this ride and it’s definitely the seating area that rotated. Regardless of which area Debbie was crushed between too walls and she died a horrific death. …
After watching Mr Ballen ive learned to never leave my house but also to never stay home. Trust no one, but also have people you can trust always at your side.
Hell I'm staying in my bedroom only venturing out to use the restroom!! 😳 Just get me a mini fridge and a microwave... Now I'm actually looking around my room that some of the things that could hurt or kill me in here!
I’m from the town in the second story and my dad was almost on that one canoe, but he luckily had to work that day. To answer the question. ( from what I heard) The bodies were severely beaten up from hitting against the tunnel entrances and I guess the bottom of the dam. The last body recovered in Croatia was a firefighter and my former instructor. The family had to be called in to Identify the body.
Terrible situation. I'm sorry about your instructor and all the other victims. The force of the current at the base of the dam would've probably dragged and held those poor people under even if they'd been wearing life jackets. Do you know how the mayor's wife escaped? I'm glad your dad didn't make the trip that day. Life is funny in that there's so many times we realize we've luckily avoided danger just due to happenstance.
Was at a wedding yesterday and bumped into a group who all listen to MrBallen, after the wedding breakfast we all sat outside gathered around a phone drinking a beer listening to a story. Ngl, it was pretty awesome :)
Dude was mad sleep deprived to think that sleeping under his truck, which was parked on sand, was a good idea. The kayaking one was... unfortunate, but also preventable. I am so sorry for what the lady in the last story went through. My heart goes out to her family. Thanks for the stories MrBallen!
The Disney story is accurate. I've been told the exact same story by multiple people who worked at Disneyland at the time. I'm fairly certain that Debbie wasn't the only person who died in that rotating room, too.
@@flameshot4647 ... like their 'recent' story of over 100 employee beings arrested for human trafficking? Why is it it's own City/State with its our jurisdiction - liken to Washington DC or Vatican City. Walt? Terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible person.
@@joselase6894 they weren’t all Disney employees.🙄 That was just the headlines the news used for shock value. It was actually 108 people arrested total (from all over Fl) but only 4 were Disney employees. Yes, even 4 is gross but Disney employs thousands of people so it’s not surprising that a few will be sickos. They do background checks but if the person has never been arrested before then nothing will show up. One person who was arrested was a judge so you are going to find bad people in every profession.
Same here. Like wtf that's not a small little one either how the fuck did all of them forget it's a freaking hydro dam. I bet the mayor's wife is messed up from that trip.
I know u prob wont see this in the midst of the 1000s of comments, but being a combat vet myself, i LOVE seeing other vets being successful at what they do. Congratulations man. Im super proud of you brother.
Usually when I see “ viewer beware” cautions I watch and say that wasn’t that bad, but when Mr. Ballen tell a story about somebody getting smashed…. It really isn’t for the faint of heart!!!! @mrballen you got a gift for telling a good story and make a lot of peoples days a little better!!
Mr. Ballen, the stages did not move. They were stationary. The audience did. The seats were in a ring shape around the stage. When each act was done the audience, in the ring shaped seat section would rotate around the section stages. This theater was built in this configuration from the beginning. It was originally built for a show about evolving technology mainly in America. Then the 6 section stage was changed for America Sings. Thank you for your awesome story telling.
Why did everyone think the screaming was part of the Disney show? I assume the show had absolutely no sinister aspect to it, and surely the staff would know whether screaming was supposed to be part of it.
I had the same exact thoughts, a lot of this could have been avoided if the staff would have just went and checked out the screaming, considering that they’ve worked that shows thousands a times a week, they should have known that that scream was not part of the show, but maybe they were lazy and complacent and just did not feel like checking. And Disney paying the family a small lump sum of money just not seem like enough and also does not help heal the tragic death of parents having to bury their child before said child had a chance to live a full and accomplished life,where that child had a chance to raise their own family😢
What are you supposed to do in that situation? Even if the screaming sounded out of place, no one would assume it was the sound of someone being crushed to death in the mechanism. It's hard to think of such a tragedy on what's supposed to be the happiest place on earth.
@@FantasticAlbum77 That I get, maybe it’s just me being a paranoid person and I just have to check out every little out of place sound, also it not the first one at a Disney them park and that’s sad to know that things like this happen and there’s nothing we can do to prevent them.
It's a large mass of rotating machinery, that is the *exact* first thing I would/anyone sane should think of. Poor girl might have survived if she wasn't surrounded by f*ing morons :/
@@FantasticAlbum77 I don't expect anyone to immediately assume or realise it's because the mechanism is crushing someone. Perhaps a simple "Hey is that screaming? Maybe you should go check it out?" would have sufficed.
I think the thing I love most about this channel is the tremendous amount of respect you have for all the people you talk about in these stories. Outside of the dirtbag murderers, the way that you empathize with the people in these stories is awesome
Yeah... its normal. Someone screaming for help is a common sound inside "the happiest place on earth." Unbeliebable. Hear that Debbie abd Timmy, that's the sound of happiness. RiP🙏
That Dam accident is probably top 5 scariest thing I've heard. Imagine going underwater, holdin your breath and being sucked into an operational turbine. The current pulls you in that tunnel, you hear the turbine swirling and turning, the sound coming louder and louder.. Absolute nightmare stuff. If there are any kids here: Never go swimming near a hydroelectric dam, even if it's not under construction. The turbines are operational *underwater* and they suck you under from upstream. The water looks calm, but once you go in, you get sucked underwater, against the dams intake mesh that protects the turbines from debris, such as logs.
I've been in a river raft that flipped. It was scary. We knew we were going to flip, so we held onto the rope attached to the raft. Luckily as soon as the raft flipped, it popped out of tail water and started flowing downstream, all 5 of us held on and we had life jackets. But soon after we were over one rapid and under the next. It was very disorienting and hard to tell when my head was above water to breathe. Luckily, they weren't too big of rapids, so we all made it out. Everyone was ok. It took a wile for them to catch the raft downstream... We'd been going over this drop off made by an old small irrigation wall that crossed the river. During the late summer, it's nothing, but in the spring when the water is high it makes a small 9-10 foot water fall. We'd gone over it a few times before, but the last time, my dad had left and I was in the front of the raft, 2 guys in the middle and 2 in the back. We went over just like before, but since all the weight was in the back, the back got stuck in the dip, and then we got sucked back into the toe of the waterfall. It rotated the raft until we flipped. I'm glad we had life jackets. When I was near the shore to get out of the river I was so tired, so about 5 ft away from the river bank, a long way from the swiftest flowing part of the river, there was a nice big rock, I let myself float into. Luckily, I could touch because the river pinned me against the rock. It took so much strength to pull myself off that rock get the rest of the way to shore. Anyway, water is so powerful, hopefully the folks in the story drowned before hitting the turbines. It doesn't take long to be out of air when you're not expecting to hit the water.
So I am not an engineer, but suuuurely there is some sort of grate to stop anything other than water hitting the turbines? Rivers often have sticks, logs, animal carcasses etc, and I imagine if any of these went over the dam they would damage the turbines. I was envisioning them being pinned in the tunnel against a grate before the turbines - no less horrifying.
@@ananonymoushen4339 I am from a country where we are legit surrounded by water, and life jackets are ESSENTIAL. As in, any sort of water activity in a boat. Rivers are dangerous, even shallow, slow moving ones. An international student drowned in a knee deep river a few years ago. A life jacket wouldn't have saved her, but highlights the danger of seemingly "safe" bodies of water.
I have so much respect for this dude. Willing to put himself out there, research the material and present it in reverent way. He admits that there are some gaps in the information and asks his audience to correct any inaccuracies. Mr. Ballen is the best and his videos make my day whenever he posts them. Keep up the great work.
It's been a long day of work and fishing, I should probably climb underneath my truck for a quick nap before the tide comes in🧐- Darwin has entered the chat
I heard John's story years ago and I am still confused why he decided to crawl under his truck :/ why not lay inside his truck? I also heard Debbie's story a long time ago but did not know that so many people heard her screaming for help. The STAFF thought it was part of a show they had done a dozen times before? How? Poor Debbie she deserved better
I know right, first of all who fishes at night time after a long stressful day of work, I feel like that would be more work even if its a hobby, and also why sleep UNDER the truck and not in the truck, my mind does not compute.
@@emanthegman9511 I thought the same thing. After a long day of work I can understand not wanting to go right to bed, but I’d watch a movie or something not go out fishing. Very odd story
Yep, most likely there's foul Play, and this really sucks for Jon and his family, to be remembered as the fool who fell asleep at the beach under his truck. Ive tried to relax and stargaze On the beach, it's impossible because of those damn sand fleas, no- see-ums, knats, there's crabs, even really drunk, you can't get comfortable, especially at night.
@@emanthegman9511 it’s like that old Simpson’s episode when the guy from the bar is out in the ocean and says “ah, my two favorite things: drinking and night swimming”. It was funny but sobering, pardon the pun, because I was THAT idiot who did that as a teen when apparently I hadn’t grown any neurons yet. 🤦🏻♀️
@@jenniferwilliams9548 omg so true, idk what the gov is up to (hehe,) but the beaches are all completely unbearable. I stopped going a few years ago it’s been so bad!
I am from Slovenia (second story) and I must say that I am honored that you included that tragic story from such a small country. Thank you, love your videos:))
@@Grillenheimer Not really. Gottschee - now called Kočevje is approx. 50 km SW from Sevnica. Sevnica where the second story happened is more known as hometown of Melania Trump
@@TheTrkster Yeah! The second story! That's where I was talking about! My Great-grandfather was from what is now called Travni Dol. He was not a 'Kreebur'. It was Drandul back then... but the whole area was considered the Gottschee Hochlands way back then before WW I. I used to have maps that even said that with the German and Slovene names for the cities. Liubiana (not spelled correctly) used to be Laibach.... wait, Trkster.... I may know who you might be, but we've emailed but never met! If you're who I think you are.... whoa!! But the picture Ballen showed looks like Lake Bled that is in the area that used to be called the Gottschee Hochlands prior to WW I , I thought...
@UCyemnLHSd1C9v6u5yvpfrJg No, I wasn’t, I was not even born when it happened. I think all those people were actually “sucked” in and it makes sense because we have a lot of turbines like these. It is just straight up stupid they went there in the first place.
To die so young, and just doing your menial job, that is such a heartbreaking, wrongful way to end a precious young life. This is a tragedy. Rest in eternal peace dear Debbie.
myopicseer : Disneyland closed the ride for two days and the stage on which Debbie died remained closed for a year. The ride remained operative till 1988. Then it was shut down,
8:06 I love the way he mimics the mayor and the group here in a way that emphasizes the poor decision making they made in this instance. They really were just like “I know they explicitly said don’t go over the dam because it’s extremely dangerous, but why don’t we just go over it anyway!”
The first story was on “1000 Ways to Die” and it has stuck with me ever since I saw this particular episode at a young age. They played out a scenario where John wakes up from getting wet from the water as the tide is coming in, but he is already pinned under the truck. They showed this actor trying to dig his way out but he was laying on his back and didn’t have good leverage from this position to be able to clamber his way out. Not only that, but it showed that his body was also sinking slowly in the sand during his nap so he is effectively stuck in this position, so john is crying out for help while the tide comes in and rushes over his head and back out again. It left a haunting and lasting impression on me. It sounds like one of the very worst ways to go.
Hi, MrBallen! Your second story brought up some sad memories. I knew mayor of Sevnica (coincidentally, the same town the ex-first lady Melania is from), Mr. Kristijan Janc. He was a kind man, approachable and mildly spoken. He supported cultural projects. In 2008, we were shocked to learn about his and the death of other dozen fine people. All Slovenia was deeply saddened. He will remain in my memory. I appreciate you delivered the story with dignity.
@Sunlovers Keltis these days…..ugh. Too much politics and too much people who think communism is a good thing. I was born in the US but both my parents are from Hrvatska. Dad from Karlovac…mom from vinkovci. You?
Disney paid her family a "small settlement?" Granted, nothing could ever be enough, but from a multi-billion dollar company, a small settlement is an insult.
Especially since her death was one of the most gruesome,prolonged and she could have been saved long before she was ultimately found dead. I get it if you are on a horror ride and you hear screaming or a rollercoaster because that is normal but how can so many people including other employees think hearing screaming in a show like this is nothing and not raise the alarm until the entire show is over and she is now dead ? I especially think the employees who heard screaming and did nothing never forget that they could have done something and the outcome could have been very different. I don't think that it would ever leave my thoughts.
Yeah. part of AMERICA SINGS! 🙄 right? No one thought that was weird? Plus, didn’t the staff wonder where she was to announce the beginning of the show?
@@jaclynnschaefer knowing how evil corporations are and how busy Disney is, they knew something was wrong but probably scrambled to find a replacement or whatever to keep the line flowing before the gluttonous park creatures get angwy.
This story brings back a very sad time as a young adult, this was true. Debbie was a member of my church, her parents were great, very humble. We were told of this accident at Disney and her death in church service. We were told his attraction was new and she was working when because of lack of foresight she was crushed. The paltry sum that her parents were given, was donated for music, pipe organ with so many beautiful pipes at her church. In her memory.
It’s a very sad story. I’m shocked Disney wasn’t sued for millions and fined by workman’s comp (if they had it then). Seems like they took advantage of grieving parents to quiet the issue.
@@dianac2498 Some people just do not want money. It doesn't do anything, it can't bring a person back. It also wouldn't work as a punishment because Disney has a huge amount of money. And it wouldn't encourage them to change their ways, because Disney's parks are generally extremely safe. This was a mistake, and one they immediately fixed.
"I know we're not supposed to, but it doesn't look that bad." Famous last words. Also, on the life jackets, would you rather have one and not need it or need it and not have it?
I was a kid and waiting in the America Sings line when this happened. I remember the day clearly. It was almost our turn to go in when we were turned away. The ride was down for the remainder of our visit. I never knew what really happened that day. Rumors had reached us in lines that someone died. But like the game of “telephone” by the time the news got to us it was a little girl and she was crushed between the walls from trying to get to the animal characters. Your story is the closest clarification I’ve received in all these years.
Such a music to my ear listening to your narration. So clear & I can completely picture the events on my mind based on your description. Thank you for your research, efforts & openness for feedback. I believe this channel will only get bigger & better.
The screams of someone going through severe pain and agony is actually extremely disturbing and traumatizing idk how they thought such a scream would be part of a DISNEY SHOW
Debbie's story is fairly well-told here. I've heard it told from people who've worked at good ol D-Land, and you pretty much hit the nail on the head. The only part that I've heard differently in the few times I've heard the story, is whether or not she died at the first rotation or not. It is a miserable and unfortunate fate- one that shakes me to the core. Love your content, Mr. Ballen. Your delivery is always incredible!
Yes, he did a great job telling it. Like so many other stories, you can tell he's very emotionally involved in telling it. I imagine it's hard not to be affected by some of his stories with all the research he does for them.
I live right near Disneyland, and I've heard of Debbie's story ever since I was a little kid in the 80's, but the version I heard was a bit different, and not nearly as detailed. I always wondered what actually did take place, and super happy you covered the story. Thanks!
The story about Debbie really hurt my feelings imagine being excited for your child to start a job at Disney land Just to hear she died and had a chance at living but nobody thought to help her
Disney is famous for exploting their employees and disregard their safety. I wouldn’t be excited for my child to even go there, much less work for them.
I guarantee her Fathers Soul died that very same day too. When my little girl was growing up, she was the biggest Daddy's girl ever and that really gets a Father right in the soul and if that had happened to my little girl, they would have to hold our funerals on the same day.....
I've read about the girl getting crushed at Disney World but it never had the detail you put into it..I thought it was awful what happened, but after hearing it described by you, I'm mortified at how negligent the rest of the staff was and the horror and pain that poor girl went through..damn dude, that was intense..
@@Madlou Yeah, seems fishy. Who sleeps under their truck on more stable ground, much less on sand when he knew high tide may come in whilst he slept? There’s so much more that could have gone wrong than just sinking into the sand. Almost certainly foul play, unless he had a history of doing this for whatever ungodly reason.
Geez, the little scream and crunching sound effects you put in were terrifying. Following along in my head, as well as the sounds all together was a very horrifying and visceral experience for that last story. Amazing storytelling, but dayum.
“This Mickey and Minnie Mouse dance number is sooooo cute and heartwarming, and the agonising screams of a girl in unimaginable distress really adds to the atmosphere”
Debbie is yet another story of when everyone feels something is wrong but no one wants to be the one to speak out due to fear of being humiliated. All those people and no one wanted to sound the alarm. Debbie's happen all the time.
@@3000MrGian that's basically saying you want to be like every other brainless clog in that theatre. there's no humiliation in asking the employees such a simple question about where the screaming is coming from just to raise the curiosity and suspicion of the audience. if it's an attraction then cool, but if it's not, thank God someone asked to see it. having curiosity isn't humiliating, however, it is humiliating to be completely oblivious when deep down inside you know something is wrong, but your pride prevents you from speaking up.
I can’t even describe what this channel does for my mental health. When I’m having a bad day, MrBallen. Having trouble falling to sleep, MrBallen. Anxiety through the roof, MrBallen. Keep doing what your doing because we appreciate it so much!
@illicitlitmisfit girl, I know. I’m one of those strange people that like to go to sleep to mystery videos, ect. Somehow it’s relaxing? Or maybe it just makes me realize things could be a WHOLE lot worse. 🤣
Same story here. From Midwest. In grad school, first time near ocean. Parked on the Florida beach. Tried body surfing. Dislocated my shoulder. Went to hospital. Came back later after tide came in, car had been half submerged, locals amazed, but got a tow truck to pull it out and drove it back to my dorm.
@@DeoxysDNA or maybe they thought it was a kid screaming or someone in a ride? Idk screaming at Disney is kinda normal.. I’d still be unnerved by that though
Omg I recently worked in an empty hydro Reservoir and those big submerged tunnels that suck the water out gave me nightmares. It's the most terrifying thing I've ever seen, you can totally fall in and you'll be sucked into the water system without a blip on the radar. This story scared the shit out of me because I can totally see this happening.
I can't imagine anything more horrifying than getting stuck somewhere and knowing you're going to die. Mr. Ballen's 3 places video series have definitely made me more present and aware of my surroundings.
getting stuck, while being crushed multiple times, when so many people are around but no one to help seems more horrifying to me tbh, that story was awful
One of my FAVORITE (and there are many) things I adore and respect about Mr. Ballen, is his humility. If someone corrects a mistake he’s made, he is GRATEFUL, not BUTT-HURT!!! But…he’s ex-special forces, those guys learn confidence without arrogance. Impressive sir. Impressive.
Yeah, my thoughts and feelings exactly...and my prayers go out to Debbie...and to her family... That story is beyond tragic... Thank you for sharing Mr. Ballen, I appreciate knowing of it's happening, none the less... 💕🙏😔
@@tabithapalmer5948 it’s quite popular many TH-camrs have talked about it even the ones that speak Spanish so I bet there are more from other countries who have covered it, such a sad story
As meticulous as Disney is I find it very hard to believe the thought her screaming as she was being crushed to death was part the act. that gross negligence and something tell me that ride is now haunted.
I know something about the Disney story. Back in the mid 80's my Spanish teacher told us about that incident because at the time that it happened he had fairly high position job there. He told us that she had this really long beautiful thick blond hair and that she was sitting on something like maybe a pony wall or something, I don't remember exactly what it was but she was next to wall of the room. After the people left, I guess the building then rotates to the beginning stage and when it did that, he said that her hair had got caught and she couldn't pull free and that it crushed her between the walls. When he told the story i was under the impression that she was crushed in between a gap of an inch or two but maybe I assumed that tho. He also told us that one of his co workers who was an old military veteran who had seen a lot of carnage in the wars had a difficult time trying to remove her body because it was almost to much for him to experience. My Spanish teacher also old us that there have been many strange deaths that have taken place at Disney land. One of them that I remember is that some dude fell off the people mover and was run over by it and he said that the people mover runs on rail or something, like a train? and that it was difficult to remove his body cause it was pinched in the track and wheels or something like that. I can't remember the other stories but he had a few of them. In case you are wondering, he hated Disney land.
Trapped whether by tripping or hair, this is awful. Thank you for the story, if it's true. Brings more light on how fucked up industries can be. Putting warnings and taking proper precautions could've helped. RIP
I have a half sister who worked at the park when the girl was killed in America Sings. She didn't see the scene following the accident but had friends who did and said it was pretty horrifying. She said pretty much every employee was pretty freaked out for a while after that. There have been quite a few deaths in the park over the years, another messy one was the high school senior on grad night who got drunk and decided to sneak in via the monorail track. He got hit by a train doing about 30MPH and was ground into the track surface for a good 40 feet before the train stopped. There have been a few drownings as well in the river, drunk on grad night if I remember correctly who got jumbled up on some part of underwater gear used on the track for the Mark Twain trying to swim from Tom Sawyers Island. Someone drowned when one of the early keel boats capsized during an actual ride, they removed them as a ride after that. A kids older brother drowned trying to swim back from Tom Sawyers Island after dark with the younger kid on his back because he didn't know how to swim. Pretty sure the younger kid was ok. I spent a lot of time looking at Disney deaths over the years, its interesting to see some of the behavior behind the Disney policies that don't outright hide this stuff but don't outright volunteer any information about it either. In every account of the People Mover death I have read it was a kid trying to jump from one car to another. It crushed him in between the cars and most of his body ground up underneath the rear car, pretty sure that was a grad night as well. I have a friend and former colleague who was only feet away from the spot where a girl hit the concrete after falling off the Drop Zone at Great America in Santa Clara. Several years later he witnessed the derailment of Big Thunder Mountain when it pulverized a guys head pretty much decapitating him. Sometimes it can be a really small world, he has seen worse on the job as a State Trooper but you never expect to see that same level of carnage while enjoying the day at a Theme Park.
damn right, being crushed to death by a mechanical attraction while the childish music covers your screaming and those creepy animatronics move takes the whole death to infernally bizarre level!
As a whitewater kayaker, seriously never mess around with dams. Even when they look safe there can be some super dangerous stuff going on under the surface.
Even those small low head dams can just hold you down if you go over it. They're called "drowning machines" for a reason. People get used to wading and swimming above them, not thinking about it and if the water gets slightly rougher, the place that's always been safe to swim can suck them right over and hold them under.
Same. I CANNOT BELIEVE they did that... HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW THAT YOU WILL GET SUCKED DOWN, hydroelectric or not(?)!!!! These stories make me so mad so often. I don't want anyone to suffer, but damn...come on.
Gremlin 8:02
Nice job I tried
Fuck lol ...that pfp tho lmao
-.- good job.
Wait where??
@@lllee122 on the boat bottom left. It’s gizmo.
I cannot even begin to imagine thinking "hey, I'll just sleep under this truck" is a good idea.... In any circumstance.
History has repeatedly shown that people make extremely foolish choices.
Right
Not unless you were the supposed mew in the original pokemon games. Silly lil mew
I don't get it. I drive a truck and there are SO many ways you could sleep on or in it that do not include *under* it. In the bed? Great! It starts raining? Hop inside! If you are that tired you will fall asleep sitting up.
@@LilAnnThrax I'm starting to think the man was delirious or something. Absolutely no one thinks about sleeping underneath their truck
Something about being crushed to death while everyone around is distracted by happy music is just really horrific. It could make good material for a horror movie or video game
Horrifying.
Scary ash
there kinda is if you watch the banana splits old movie
I got crushed to death yesterday
@@maxkondi5174 omg, did you survive?
The staff members who heard her screaming and didn't check it out should have been investigated. They knew the show didn't include screams of agony. Also, they would've noticed that Debbie didn't go onstage to greet the audience.
They could have thought that Debbie's shift had ended but I agree.
@@aimemari no disney and how they do their breaks and how ppl clock out is very meticulous and planned out and usually everyone working is aware of when others are on break or have clocked out. they just probably couldnt be assed to check out what was happening which is very sad
Yes, what the hell?!
Agree...
To be fair amusement parks are one of the few places where screams are pretty commonplace
It’s sad that 95% of these stories seem to be preventable. And not just at one point, but they could have been prevented multiple times throughout these events.
Biggest tip is don't travel alone or veer off the marked trail.
One of the most common things people think right before they do something stupid and get killed is "Bad things dont happen to me, they happen to strangers"
Sometimes to ease up those preventable accidents I would say something like, the Grim Reaper had some KPIs left to reach that day 😢
@@DanMorgan-bh5fvbiggest tip dont mess around with a dam
Natural selection
My sister got her leg caught in a ride at a arcade when we were little it was spinning around and dragging her under, a giant guy seen it ,came over lifted the machine with one hand and pulled her leg out the mechanism with the other, he was a hero that day.
Awe man, that's a good dude. Scary thing there ... your sister's lucky day though
Guys that make these types of rides have a responsibility to the public to clearly post any dangerous areas of the machine and make parents aware of that danger… They should have had to pay a hefty settlement to learn there lesson…
@@KevinBrown-em3ng god I miss the days when people actually took some responsibility for their kids. Jesus Christ, I don't know how we survived in the 70s
@@matthewcullen1298 Heck yea man I almost died a thousand times I can remember . I’m just like u I can’t believe we made it out alive . But it’s so simple to realize something is dangerous and post it with signage . It’s just the moral thing to do . Just a heads up is nice cause these kids now days aren’t as aware I don’t feel like of the dangers surrounding them . Maybe I wrong and they do , but I just don’t feel like they do cause I’ve raised 5 myself .
Maybe he wasnt a man at all but an angel sent from God.
A list of places to sleep other than under the truck:
-In the truck
-the truck bed
-On top of the truck if you’re really desperate
-Anywhere but under the mf truck
-seriously why would you crawl under a truck to sleep especially on a beach like dude come on.
Underrated
The sand is nice and cool so it does make sense if you've been to crystal beach in the summer but also not something I'd ever do because of the tides. It's strange for someone who lives in the area to forget but people get tired I guess.
@@dakotahuff2276 i mean i would understand maybe falling asleep on the beach even if its a bit weird in the middle of the night but why under the truck?? i could excuse if it was he lied down fell asleep and got washed away thatd be sad and suck and its still a bad idea but why would you sleep under a truck in any circumstance? especially if its YOUR TRUCK?
When you are beyond exhausted. Your brain will betray you, common sense no longer exists in your brain.
@@TrojanLube69 Ive been beyond exhausted and your brain is slower to react or to process something...but sleeping under a truck on a beach. I wouldnt even do it on a pond where the tides dont change. I would have backed up away from the water and slept in the bed or looked for a motel. Im a female so I think about safety first. His brain was completely shut off. Maybe he had a stroke or heart attack and crawled under and died.
"Oh man I'm really tired. I should drive 2 hours in the middle of the night to the ocean to sleep under my truck at high tide" excellent plan
When it’s said like that- it seems even dumber somehow
I was like no bruh , stay home go to bed 🤣
I really don't understand why he slept under his truck. Who does that? Why not sleep IN the truck? Sleeping under the truck (when he knew the tide was coming) seems like a super irrational thing to do. Like wtf.
@@gicky-gackers or in the bed? Pretty dumb
@@mirza6399 Yeah, sleeping on a bed is more comfortable than sleeping under a truck I mean seriously? Who the hell does that? I get home from working hard I'm bone tired my ass stays home.
You are so respectful of both the victim and the victim's family when you tell their story.
It would be better if the victims were more respectful of their own lives so these stories wouldn't have to be told.
@@ethanrivers4057 Who hurt you?
@@ethanrivers4057 but it was an accident, she tripped and fell INTO the tight narrow space. Why would anyone go into a narrow gap just for them to die?
@@missmichium They were speaking generally, not specifically the last story, for example the second story matches his comment.
I especially like how in true crime cases he talks more about the victim then the perpetrator. Almost all true crime videos I watch it's like "Oh the victim yeah he was cool he lit up the room and he's kinda chill" and then proceeds to give the entire life story of the POS that killed them.
Some things I've learned on this channel:
1) Follow all safety precautions all the time.
2) When people have safety measures in place, do them.
3) Obey safety precautions.
4) If someone warns you that something is not safe or you should take precautions, do that thing. Do the precaution.
Absolutely true!👍🏼
5) Never decide to not follow the safety measures
6) Read the signs more than once, you might have forgotten the first thing they said like "TURN BACK NOW"
Also don't leave your house
Ever
OSHA would be proud.
5) Don't go cave diving!
I couldn't imagine sitting through that show thinking that the blood-curdling screams were the sound effect option that Disney chose to use during the stage transitions.
Exactly! How would that fit into the show?
It's super weird nobody did anything sooner
Yeah, and if the audience could hear it then the staff definitely could too. And unless they were all first-timers, I think they would know whether or not blood-curdling screams were part of their show
@@vokks1558 it's weird that staff didn't do anything. I looked up the audio of her death and she's screaming super loud 😭
The 70s were a different time.
You’re actually doing a great public service by telling these true stories about normal average people who don’t pay attention to warnings and end up losing their lives. It makes everyone aware that yes, it can happen to anyone even you. People take for granted that their life is vulnerable when they go places that they shouldn’t. Thanks John. Keep up the incredible work.
Very well said!
This comment gives me like the major fbi vibes like that meme that went around where you have your own fbi agents. This is for sure John's.
I wonder if the people who pass in these vids would have changed anything if they had watched videos like this before trying new things lol
Agree
@@TheTwigLord The photo in my profile is my graduation from the FBI National Academy in November of 2000 with the 203rd session. Maybe that’s what gave the feeling lol.
The poor girl stuck between the stages !! What a horrific story !! I couldn't even begin to imagine the fear, desperation and pain this young woman went through ?! As for the staff and Disney !! As a parent, I'd of burnt Disney to the ground and got my own justice.
Good luck with that. Disney runs its own state.
It didn’t happen the way it was told here.
*@embramorgan6720
9 months ago
the story is not as he told it. The center did not move, the seats rotated around the center stage which was divided up into different sets. She was crushed in between the wall of the rotating seat section and a stationary wall of the stage. It took only a moment, she didn't scream bloody murder like everyone says, and a person seated near the incident saw her vanish behind the wall and heard a brief scream and he alerted operators. They recovered her immediately.*
I've (quickly) gone from that person who "jjust found this channel and can't stop binging it" to the person who has now watched it all, and anxiously awaits new episodes.
That's how we all started! And how we all can't wait! Welcome to the Strange, Dark & Mysterious Fam! Mr Ballen is truly an addiction from which none of us want a cure. ✌️
SAME
Welcome sir.
yup,same here
Ditto
Had heard about the last one before, but never in that format and with the details. What a horrible way to die...
Great coverage of the events! Always top-notch quality.
I like your videos urmaker
@@godzillaking4828 ok nobody asked
@@elijahcastilllo3412 who is you bruh 😂😂😂😂😂😂
*removed bullshit comment*
@@dankone3 A good example is a diving one where one of the divers lived and other died. Dive Talk had the one who lived on their show talk about that in detail and it varied quite a bit from Mr. Ballens video.
The second story was much just the proof why being the Cameraman is always a good idea.
The second story was proof that you should never listen to politicians. That third boat got really lucky.
Just watch the video with the photographer who died taking pictures of a volcano, so I disagree lol
@@adampollender8784 Alec Baldwin
@@mortimerbrewster3671 When an engineer or an operator of some sort for a dam tells you that a certain area is dangerous, believe them! The mayor royally fucked up by not taking his advice seriously assuming that it wasn’t too dangerous while not understanding the science behind the unfinished dam. An unfortunate end for those involved.
Cameraman is the only one who always survives the horror movie
I've heard about Debbie multiple times, but I NEVER heard that that she was reportedly alive and screaming throughout the show!?!? Christ, that poor girl. :(
She wasn’t, it is widely accepted that she was killed almost instantly. Still, terrible way to die.
No idea where he got his info from, but I did some research years ago and nowhere was it mentionned that she was still alive and screaming after the first time she started to get dragged around. People did indeed hear screaming but never said it was repeated throughout the show. And even if she somehow survived the first rotation, she wouldn't have had the strength to scream. Her internal injuries + the extreme pain and shock would have made it impossible. Logically, had she survived the first rotation and was well enough to still scream and be heard, it would have meant her injuries were artificial and she would have be able to survive until and after the end of the show. Also, the video doesn't emphasize how *incredibly* narrow the space was. There simply was no way she could have survived longer than a few seconds.
@@prettygneissproductionsyes I e read about it several places and never heard this. I enjoy the channel immensely but this feels like dramatisation for the sake of a story tbh
@@secretarmyl1795how do you know Mr. Ballen didn't find interviews with more details than Wikipedia? He may have even talked to witnesses himself who knows
oh i see, it's another tall tale from ballen lol. c'mon y'all, what's more likely, john TRACKED DOWN WITNESSES or misreported stuff he read on the internet?
Debbie's death was so horrifying. I can't imagine her pain during the ordeal. And hearing those ppl around you while you scream helplessly for help is so heartwrenchingly sad.
Wow yeah... ignoring blood curdling screams at a show in Disneyland?! What in the heck? If it was a Halloween special that would be a lot more excusable. Even staff ignoring this? Horrible
@@divinetime999 yeah when i heard that part it just made me angry
Yes so sad
Ikr it made me angry and sad she was so young and had so much life left in her it’s truly heartbreaking
@Affinitrinity q+
That last story is haunting. So many people heard her scream, she could have been saved - cannot grasp how not one single person took the screams seriously. And what a horrible way to die.
And this wasn't a horror attraction either....this was a frkn peaceful jolly singing bs , how would horrified screaming in nothing but terror be a part of the show? What type of idiots were in there? And the staff?????? They should have known a person screaming for their life wasn't part of puppets singing songs about america, just wtf was wrong with all these people. Sure outside in a theme park screaming is normal, but inside where singing should be the only thing heard? And I might add that a person screaming on a roler coster and a person screaming from being crushed alive probably sound different no matter what.....I'm so so angry at this situation...
ALSO why did she even work there if they started the attraction without her anyway? If they had only checked why she wasn't on stage to greet the audience that time around....unless she switched shifts at this moment with someone else.
People should always take someone screaming for help seriously, frkn Disneyland included.
I know! What I can't get is how people, including staff who had seen the show numerous times, thought the screams and cries were a part of the show. And even if you'd never seen the show before, why on Earth would a happy Disney World show have bloodcurdling screams in it? I know it's easy to judge when we're looking back, but I have a hard time understanding how everyone wrote the screams off as part of the show,.
It's herd mentality. So many people are around, so everyone assumes that someone else will do something, but no one does. :(
Sheeple are the greatest threat.
Just the herd mentality....if nobody else is reacting, the people who do feel uneasy do nothing as well. Just like when a person asks a group if there is any questions, everyone stays silent, even though there is questions on peoples minds.
Unless the name of that attraction was “America Sings Proudly Presents: The Charles Manson Murders”, I’m pretty confident I would assume some girl’s agonized, continuous screaming mean shit has gone wrong and are NOT part of the attraction. But hey, maybe I’m just paranoid.
I rolled my eyes at that point. Not even mechanics sleep under cars. I just don't get why he would do that. Unless they are mistaken.
Especially since the staff there had probably worked that one show day in and day out knowing every fucking second of what’s going on /what’s going to happen next in the show . The second they heard the blood curl screaming someone should of gone to check
@@brennenloose3137 right, just negligence on their part. or maybe she took people's food out of the fridge in the breakroom one too many times.
I repeat, everyone involved should have been lined up and shot. Not like they’re using those brains for anything but murder anyway.
Sure, you're that special person. I hate how you always have to read the same tiresome 'I would've reacted sooo much better' comments. You probably wouldn't have done shit, and if the people that were there were watching this video instead, they probably would've said the same bs.
17:45 never just assume someone screaming for "help" is a joke or part of an attraction. As a former employee of an amusement park that had several deaths during my short time there, this is terrifying
What amusement park was it? Asking so that I never go there EVER
To be stuck in a rotating machine and crushed to death while everyone around you is having a good time sounds incredibly terrifying. It makes it more disturbing
Sounds like a ‘Saw’ punishment.
Some American horror story type shit Fr.
@@jaclynnschaefer absolutely accurate.
it's pretty much how depression is for me
Final destination - horror story in real life 🥶🥶🥶
The last story was unbelievably heartbreaking. To anybody that reads this, please, I beg you, don't ignore your instincts. If you hear a scream, a noise that worries you, or anything that gives you a bad feeling about anything, please speak up and say something. The worst thing that'll happen to you is people might think you're weird or paranoid. The worst thing that'll happen to someone else is them losing there life.
Thanks for this. Ppl need to hear this
Hi. Dawn again. On my boyfriends account. I agree!! I have always listened. Or. Wished I did. So. I listen now and. Taught my children ( grown now ) ** when in doubt , GET OUT.. ** ALWAYS listen to your tummy I told them!!!
Problem is people who suffer from paranoia their whole life have to ignore some or many of their instinctive red alerts and people who know them also begin to tell them down. Gradually there's an urge to supress it.
While the last story should have raised enough red flags, there are chances that other similar incidents could be ignored.
Yeah, that's what had me. If I'm on some happy, children friendly ride and I hear blood curdling screams for help. I can't imagine ever thinking "Oh, this is totally normal and not a problem. It's all good."
Thanks for this. Important take away from this video. Allot of those peoppe likely just didnt want to rock the boat because nobody else was reacting.
I suddenly remembered this one being my first MrBallen video, back in late 2022. That day marked the start of a new addiction for me. He is currently my favourite TH-camr/Podcast Artist!
Why would he take a nap underneath the truck, that’s insane. Just go in.
He probably had the bright idea that if he slept underneath that the high tide would wake him up. He didnt expect the truck to pin him in the sand.
Or maybe he thought he might die in the truck due to overheating?
@@project875 trucks have a bed portion on the back he could've slept on
I know and he could of just slept in the trunk. but you know when your tired you don’t think things thru
@@project875 fax. dude was probably exhausted and maybe did that before in more stable areas
Only true fans miss the days when he said "3, 4, or even 5 times every week."
Edit: People love to taking things out of context. Anyone that says "Oh you don't care about him because he has a life and has things to deal with. He needs a break, he's exhausted." Obviously I don't want him to feel pressured to make content. He should be able to live a relaxed life without stressing about content. Im just complimenting him on how entertaining he is as a content creator/story teller.
I miss these days so much! 😂
It hurts bruh🥲
I know right? 😕
Miss it so much I be feigning for his videos there so good lol
I miss them 😪😪😪😓😓😓😓now I come everyday to see I’ve watched the last video
Debbie probably endured one of the most horrific deaths anyone could imagine. Rest in peace sweet girl.
and to be stuck in place as it all happens...🥺🥺 i feel so bad for her family too
R.i.h debbie.
I would be haunting that place if I were her. People would pay dearly.
@SaltyBrains Heaven?
Silly you🤡 you think anyone who goes to hell gets rest!? “Ain’t no rest for the wicked” but i doubt she was anything but a thoughtful young lady
Imagine hearing screams and telling yourself “nah that’s nothing”
Debbie's was really horrible. The thought of being stuck and crushed to bits while you hear people having fun and enjoying themselves sounds terrible
Indeed! ☹️
That's when you die putting a curse on everyone having fun.
that has happened to me
There was news years ago, a woman with her husband and chidlren, was going on an attraction that spins around jn the darkness with something like those mechanical dolls.
The woman was scared, but she boarded the ride anyways THEN she decided to get off in second thought right before the ride started.
She fell in some tiny gap between all those spinning machinary, and died in a similar fashion as the story. Except the whole family was right there beside her, unable to do anything, as she SLOWLY got crushed to death.
I remember watching the news on tv and my parents were saying how we should never, EVER attempt to get out of a ride no matter how scared you are, once you get on.
Don't be embarrassed of your fears or peer pressure, if you don't want to do something, don't do it.
There was no reason in that attraction for what would most likely have been blood-curdling screaming. Even if the audience thought it was part of the ride, WTF was wrong with the staff? Working that attraction all the time, they would have known it was not part of the show and they only thought to look AFTER? And while I hate to blame the victim, why wouldn't she be screaming something to the effect of, "STOP THE MOTHER FUCKING RIDE! I'M STUCK, ASSHOLES!!!" In the happiest place on Earth, especially in the 70s, they would have known that was not normal.
Mr. Ballen has me acutely aware of all of the hazards that people don’t normally think about. My family is a little bit safer because of this channel.
I know exactly what you mean! I have lived near Crystal Beach for 40 years, and have slept on the beach as a kid with parents…never as an adult!
Edit: this beach is usually remote enough at night that one can park on it and not even be able to see a single car or other human.
Yeah your safe now from a TH-cam channel. Funny af.
I would think common sense should kick in to keep you safe
Shaher Mansoor a lot of people put too much trust in common sense. Common sense is wrong a lot of the time. I see it in investing and engineering, I’ve spent many years in both fields. Actively thinking/learning is far better than trusting common sense
Common sense is not very “common” from what I see.
The disney story gave me chills. How do you mistake blood curdling screams with a song about America?
"damn, this back up vocalist is hardcore"
I feel so bad for laughing but I did😂😂😂
I mean they do kind of go hand in hand when you truly think about it. 🤔🤔🤔
Pls 💀
@@xXxRockkettPower012 Edgy
@@nightynightshade what’s funny
I don’t wanna end up strange, dark and mysteriously delivered by story format but if I do I want it to be told by you bro! Thanks for keeping the wheel spinning and these peoples stories, lessons and warnings alive! Totally love this stuff! Keep up the greatness
I can't believe how long Mr. Ballen's hair has gotten! He was short haired when I first discovered him! Short hair and less than 500k subs! So much has changed for him in a year! So happy for him and his crew!!
same for me watching his hair grow but now I really wana see him with no hat and get a good look at his lovely mane!!!!!
@@marygonzalez733 Me too!!
I started watch him at shoulder length hair and now I two would like to see him without his hat.
love his hair...now to see him without the hat😘😜
been watching since 100k, i love this dude
Debbie's death was horrendous! You're basically being ground alive. How in the world could her coworkers think that was part of the show. I'm sure that they'd have to be somewhat familiar with the routine and it's weird that they wouldn't be able to recognize that kind of blood curling scream. That part of it seems fishy to me.
Exactly
It was very loud with music playing, people talking, kids screaming
My experience of working with younger, inexperienced workers makes it somewhat plausible, these are usually low paying jobs, holiday jobs, and the younger workers sometimes even for all the reasons I can come up with to give them the benefit of the doubt, are bafflingly ignorant and oblivious, and that's the construction industry by the way, where everything can induce injury. 😑
@@ronyozamoto2216 Yeah, unfortunately with younger worker I also think there is a tendency to assume nothing can go wrong. Not that older workers don't make stupid decisions too it's just young people tend to think they're invincible so this blood curdling scream can't be somebody getting hurt.
@@agdoren and as the young person that can tell you no everything you said doesn't hold water
Anytime I've heard the Disney story in the past, they only mention that she was crushed when the stage moved. But not that she was crushed while the stage moved through it's entire program. That's truly horrifying!
yea same, i thought she was immediately squished between the moving walls, not that she was alive while the stage slowly ripped her to shreds
Disney is cancerous
Yup they changed only how the wings can breakaway but at least once in the 80s once I saw a host caught and had to shove and crack the panel because once that giant carousel was in motion it was almost impossible to stop it since it was part of the whole world of automation motif where the humans are only narrators and radio communications were still spotty inside buildings with a lot of metal and dampening materials.
The show was shut down for the rest of the day and it was kept as quiet as possible but locals knew the history.
what is that "Adamant Forge" dude talking about??
lol hes making no sense; to me at least , idk lol
but mrballen is a great story teller.
GOD Bless to you and your fam.
@@UlshaRS What?
When you mentioned how they refused the life jackets, I totally remembered how my family would go white water rafting in Sacramento. It was lots of fun and a bit dangerous when we would hit the rapids. It was always dangerous. Life jackets were mandatory. Especially for me cuz I was only like 2 or 3 years old. Normally, we would hit the rapids and get tossed about but nothing to major. This time, we flipped and got dumped out, and the water was thrashing about, and we all got separated. I was floating away into some rocks when my mom grabbed me. She later said I held on to her so hard I almost choaked her. The life jackets made all the difference that day. A simple raft ride could have had a much worse ending. That did scare my parents something good. Just how quickly things can change. Especially when you don't know how to swim. Life jackets should never be a question. It is so sad for the people in the story to have such a horrendous way beyond scary encounter.
Life jackets are just like wearing helmets on a bike. You don’t expect to be thrown into the water but it’s no hassle to have one on just in case.
I am curious if the life jackets would have been enough to actually prevent those people getting sucked into the tunnels though.
Your parents brought a toddler white water rafting? That is so incredibly stupid - not quite as stupid as sleeping under a truck but close. Like bro your parents shouldn’t have kids
As a kid, my family played in a nearby river quite frequently on hot days, but always downstream from the dam. My dad always said, "It's not what you see, it's what you DON'T see."
We listened but thought it strange, until we had a drought that exposed a lot of the dam. I remember being terrified by the huge drop and massive trees exposed to air. Huge lesson learned about water that day. It's always what you don't see that will kill you.
it was suicide
trees?
I was living near a river and use to go up to my ankles. That's it, and even thats pushing it, but I know the water pretty well.
Some random girl come up to me and asks how to go swimming, how to get the water. And at the time I was looking up at her from the shore line.
I told her it's a bad idea this river is dangerous but she doesn't belive me, it looks calm.
So I look at her and grab a stick near by and throw it bit behind me and it completely disappeared. The current sucked it in and it was gone.
She just walked away. Hope she didn't go into the water
@@I_AM_HYDRAA trees would fall in, get swept downstream, and then stuck at the base of the damn by the current
@@RainyRunningRiver tf u go in the river than
"He was totally exhausted, but he wanted to unwind a bit."
"I get that. We've all felt that way."
"So he ended up driving for hours to the ocean to go fishing."
".....Never mind."
Yea i thought he was going to watch movie or smth😆
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'I'm really tired, i have my truck parked out there but i will not get in, rather sleep under it."
I was thinking the same thing. I live and work in the Houston area. Being exhausted I’m just saying “F the hell outta that” with his idea. Crystal Beach from any part of the city to fish for a bit? Let alone sleep under the truck, rather than inside it? If I wanted to unwind a bit something at home I could do would’ve been more sufficient than a 2 hour drive to fish when I had another long ass day ahead of me.
The whole thing sounds...."fishy".
Legitimately, my heart hurts for the pain Debbie was in as she died...
For real. I immediately said a prayer. So sad.
For real it broke my heart hearing her story
So dam brutal and unnecessary. And a small settlement? They owed alot more for multiple reasons
@@el34glo59 no kidding! If I was in thar family, I'd raise absolute hell to get justice. That's unbelievable
@@trinitysolutionsoffroad7623 Unfortunately the family doesn’t have a lot of money to hire expensive lawyers. Disney can and have been known to drag cases for long periods of time.
RE: Debbie Stone/America Sings- I tried to understand what was being said, but it didn't make sense with the mention of a "storage area" being involved.
The America Sings attraction had the same setup as the Carousel of Progress, which is that the stage areas (and any central location behind them) are stationary and the theater portions (where the audience sits) rotate around them. There is a theater portion for nearly every stage and they all revolve together to the next stage after each performance finishes. There is also a freestanding wall on either side of the theater portions that rotates with it to enclose your performance from the nextdoor performances.
What happened to Debbie is she got too close to the back wall of the building itself and one of the walls that rotates with the theater portion she was in and was crushed/dragged with said wall. This was after a group had just finished a performance and left her theater and before receiving a new group. And she wasn't just ignored. A man cited in the investigation, who was in the theater on the opposite side of the wall, saw her (he said he thought it was a child that had been pulled between the walls) and had heard her scream. He notified the ride operator when the theater stopped moving.
I'd heard this story a number of times ages ago and it was never that she was dragged for the entire 24 minute duration of the full show. Being crushed and dragged mechanically against a building by a wall for even one rotation (which is pretty slow) to the next stage definitely would have been enough to cause serious internal injuries.
Also, it was a goofy, upbeat show, so it would really make 0 sense for a bunch of people to think someone screaming was "part of the show" anyway. Not like it's the Haunted Mansion.
They installed a safety measure immediately after this happened that alerted the ride operator whenever someone walked within a certain perimeter of any area where this could occur and then later made the walls on the theaters breakaway.
This is the most accurate! Thank you from a current castmember.
I had been on this ride and it’s definitely the seating area that rotated. Regardless of which area Debbie was crushed between too walls and she died a horrific death. …
After watching Mr Ballen ive learned to never leave my house but also to never stay home. Trust no one, but also have people you can trust always at your side.
Lmfao
YESS THIS🤣🤣
Hell I'm staying in my bedroom only venturing out to use the restroom!! 😳 Just get me a mini fridge and a microwave... Now I'm actually looking around my room that some of the things that could hurt or kill me in here!
@@nitalightell336 You forgot to mention the demon that lives under your bed. It's gonna getcha! There's also one in your closet, watchout!
I understand this and follow it as well 🫣
I’m from the town in the second story and my dad was almost on that one canoe, but he luckily had to work that day. To answer the question. ( from what I heard) The bodies were severely beaten up from hitting against the tunnel entrances and I guess the bottom of the dam. The last body recovered in Croatia was a firefighter and my former instructor. The family had to be called in to Identify the body.
noro
Terrible situation. I'm sorry about your instructor and all the other victims.
The force of the current at the base of the dam would've probably dragged and held those poor people under even if they'd been wearing life jackets. Do you know how the mayor's wife escaped?
I'm glad your dad didn't make the trip that day. Life is funny in that there's so many times we realize we've luckily avoided danger just due to happenstance.
gdje je to bilo
@@RickGrimes__what language are you speaking? I'm really curious because I think I've never seen it written out
@@hikatenmaiafu4391 croatian
Was at a wedding yesterday and bumped into a group who all listen to MrBallen, after the wedding breakfast we all sat outside gathered around a phone drinking a beer listening to a story. Ngl, it was pretty awesome :)
He’s awesome, and definitely has a bright future! Hope the wedding was fun! Cheers
Hey! Waffle king! Fancy seeing you here.
@@bearhugzfam649 Hey Annie, got to get me some Ballen. He's perfect to listen to while editing :)
@@ChrisSprenger. Oh for sure, he's the perfect work partner :)
HI MARK
Dude was mad sleep deprived to think that sleeping under his truck, which was parked on sand, was a good idea.
The kayaking one was... unfortunate, but also preventable.
I am so sorry for what the lady in the last story went through. My heart goes out to her family.
Thanks for the stories MrBallen!
The Disney story is accurate. I've been told the exact same story by multiple people who worked at Disneyland at the time. I'm fairly certain that Debbie wasn't the only person who died in that rotating room, too.
So terrifying. I refuse to go on anything that has a rotating stage like that now
I think overall rotating stages: bad idea no matter how “cool” it is to some people
Disney ruins a lot of things.
@@flameshot4647 ... like their 'recent' story of over 100 employee beings arrested for human trafficking? Why is it it's own City/State with its our jurisdiction - liken to Washington DC or Vatican City. Walt? Terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible person.
@@joselase6894 they weren’t all Disney employees.🙄 That was just the headlines the news used for shock value. It was actually 108 people arrested total (from all over Fl) but only 4 were Disney employees. Yes, even 4 is gross but Disney employs thousands of people so it’s not surprising that a few will be sickos. They do background checks but if the person has never been arrested before then nothing will show up. One person who was arrested was a judge so you are going to find bad people in every profession.
Construction worker-“don’t go over the dam. i repeat, don’t go over the dam, it’s extremely dangerous.”
People- “hey guys let’s go over the dam!”
Same here. Like wtf that's not a small little one either how the fuck did all of them forget it's a freaking hydro dam. I bet the mayor's wife is messed up from that trip.
Even worse that it's the mayor...and HE didn't know it was a hydro-electric dam? LOL.
If I was in that story I would've gone over that dam
@@FrizzKid05 Sometime it's worth getting a slight headacke and know how it works.
I visited the Hoover Dam and I got the distinct impression they were holding something back….😁
I know u prob wont see this in the midst of the 1000s of comments, but being a combat vet myself, i LOVE seeing other vets being successful at what they do. Congratulations man. Im super proud of you brother.
Hi
Usually when I see “ viewer beware” cautions I watch and say that wasn’t that bad, but when Mr. Ballen tell a story about somebody getting smashed…. It really isn’t for the faint of heart!!!! @mrballen you got a gift for telling a good story and make a lot of peoples days a little better!!
damn dude, your days must be really horrible if hearing stories about people dying makes them better sheesh
F U
@Illiterate ahahah I know friend, it was just a joke!
Very much agreed. I can’t wait for the time at night when I link my phone to my TV and watch Mr. Ballen
Typically, I expect "you're in for a scare".
Mr. Ballen, the stages did not move. They were stationary. The audience did. The seats were in a ring shape around the stage. When each act was done the audience, in the ring shaped seat section would rotate around the section stages. This theater was built in this configuration from the beginning. It was originally built for a show about evolving technology mainly in America. Then the 6 section stage was changed for America Sings. Thank you for your awesome story telling.
Why did everyone think the screaming was part of the Disney show? I assume the show had absolutely no sinister aspect to it, and surely the staff would know whether screaming was supposed to be part of it.
I had the same exact thoughts, a lot of this could have been avoided if the staff would have just went and checked out the screaming, considering that they’ve worked that shows thousands a times a week, they should have known that that scream was not part of the show, but maybe they were lazy and complacent and just did not feel like checking. And Disney paying the family a small lump sum of money just not seem like enough and also does not help heal the tragic death of parents having to bury their child before said child had a chance to live a full and accomplished life,where that child had a chance to raise their own family😢
What are you supposed to do in that situation? Even if the screaming sounded out of place, no one would assume it was the sound of someone being crushed to death in the mechanism. It's hard to think of such a tragedy on what's supposed to be the happiest place on earth.
@@FantasticAlbum77 That I get, maybe it’s just me being a paranoid person and I just have to check out every little out of place sound, also it not the first one at a Disney them park and that’s sad to know that things like this happen and there’s nothing we can do to prevent them.
It's a large mass of rotating machinery, that is the *exact* first thing I would/anyone sane should think of. Poor girl might have survived if she wasn't surrounded by f*ing morons :/
@@FantasticAlbum77 I don't expect anyone to immediately assume or realise it's because the mechanism is crushing someone. Perhaps a simple "Hey is that screaming? Maybe you should go check it out?" would have sufficed.
I love how Mr. Ballen is so open to criticism and correction. It's clear that his goal is to provide the truth of every story.
Hey
A Man has fallen in Lego city
I think the thing I love most about this channel is the tremendous amount of respect you have for all the people you talk about in these stories. Outside of the dirtbag murderers, the way that you empathize with the people in these stories is awesome
thank you!
Yeah... its normal. Someone screaming for help is a common sound inside "the happiest place on earth." Unbeliebable. Hear that Debbie abd Timmy, that's the sound of happiness. RiP🙏
The old folks at the retirement home in 60 years have no idea the kind of "campfire stories" they're in for when MrBallen joins them.
He'll be "stealing" hearts, one heart attack at a time
Haha! What a great visual...!
John is probably 35+ years old, so 60 years is a bit too much. But hey, I sure hope he lives forever. Loved your comment btw.
That Dam accident is probably top 5 scariest thing I've heard.
Imagine going underwater, holdin your breath and being sucked into an operational turbine.
The current pulls you in that tunnel, you hear the turbine swirling and turning, the sound coming louder and louder.. Absolute nightmare stuff.
If there are any kids here: Never go swimming near a hydroelectric dam, even if it's not under construction.
The turbines are operational *underwater* and they suck you under from upstream.
The water looks calm, but once you go in, you get sucked underwater, against the dams intake mesh that protects the turbines from debris, such as logs.
I've been in a river raft that flipped. It was scary. We knew we were going to flip, so we held onto the rope attached to the raft. Luckily as soon as the raft flipped, it popped out of tail water and started flowing downstream, all 5 of us held on and we had life jackets. But soon after we were over one rapid and under the next. It was very disorienting and hard to tell when my head was above water to breathe. Luckily, they weren't too big of rapids, so we all made it out. Everyone was ok. It took a wile for them to catch the raft downstream... We'd been going over this drop off made by an old small irrigation wall that crossed the river. During the late summer, it's nothing, but in the spring when the water is high it makes a small 9-10 foot water fall. We'd gone over it a few times before, but the last time, my dad had left and I was in the front of the raft, 2 guys in the middle and 2 in the back. We went over just like before, but since all the weight was in the back, the back got stuck in the dip, and then we got sucked back into the toe of the waterfall. It rotated the raft until we flipped. I'm glad we had life jackets.
When I was near the shore to get out of the river I was so tired, so about 5 ft away from the river bank, a long way from the swiftest flowing part of the river, there was a nice big rock, I let myself float into. Luckily, I could touch because the river pinned me against the rock. It took so much strength to pull myself off that rock get the rest of the way to shore.
Anyway, water is so powerful, hopefully the folks in the story drowned before hitting the turbines. It doesn't take long to be out of air when you're not expecting to hit the water.
They got mulched...
Imagine being stupid enough to refuse a life jacket then agree to go over a dam in a canoe. 😂
So I am not an engineer, but suuuurely there is some sort of grate to stop anything other than water hitting the turbines? Rivers often have sticks, logs, animal carcasses etc, and I imagine if any of these went over the dam they would damage the turbines. I was envisioning them being pinned in the tunnel against a grate before the turbines - no less horrifying.
@@ananonymoushen4339 I am from a country where we are legit surrounded by water, and life jackets are ESSENTIAL. As in, any sort of water activity in a boat. Rivers are dangerous, even shallow, slow moving ones. An international student drowned in a knee deep river a few years ago. A life jacket wouldn't have saved her, but highlights the danger of seemingly "safe" bodies of water.
I have so much respect for this dude. Willing to put himself out there, research the material and present it in reverent way. He admits that there are some gaps in the information and asks his audience to correct any inaccuracies. Mr. Ballen is the best and his videos make my day whenever he posts them. Keep up the great work.
Well said. I feel exactly the same. It's so rare to find an entertaining creator who also has integrity.
Okay?
is it really that rare to find an honest man these days? damn
It's been a long day of work and fishing, I should probably climb underneath my truck for a quick nap before the tide comes in🧐- Darwin has entered the chat
I heard John's story years ago and I am still confused why he decided to crawl under his truck :/ why not lay inside his truck?
I also heard Debbie's story a long time ago but did not know that so many people heard her screaming for help. The STAFF thought it was part of a show they had done a dozen times before? How? Poor Debbie she deserved better
I know right, first of all who fishes at night time after a long stressful day of work, I feel like that would be more work even if its a hobby, and also why sleep UNDER the truck and not in the truck, my mind does not compute.
@@emanthegman9511 I thought the same thing. After a long day of work I can understand not wanting to go right to bed, but I’d watch a movie or something not go out fishing. Very odd story
Yep, most likely there's foul Play, and this really sucks for Jon and his family, to be remembered as the fool who fell asleep at the beach under his truck. Ive tried to relax and stargaze On the beach, it's impossible because of those damn sand fleas, no- see-ums, knats, there's crabs, even really drunk, you can't get comfortable, especially at night.
@@emanthegman9511 it’s like that old Simpson’s episode when the guy from the bar is out in the ocean and says “ah, my two favorite things: drinking and night swimming”. It was funny but sobering, pardon the pun, because I was THAT idiot who did that as a teen when apparently I hadn’t grown any neurons yet. 🤦🏻♀️
@@jenniferwilliams9548 omg so true, idk what the gov is up to (hehe,) but the beaches are all completely unbearable. I stopped going a few years ago it’s been so bad!
I am from Slovenia (second story) and I must say that I am honored that you included that tragic story from such a small country. Thank you, love your videos:))
Isn't that near where Gottschee was?
@@Grillenheimer Not really. Gottschee - now called Kočevje is approx. 50 km SW from Sevnica. Sevnica where the second story happened is more known as hometown of Melania Trump
@@TheTrkster Yeah! The second story! That's where I was talking about! My Great-grandfather was from what is now called Travni Dol. He was not a 'Kreebur'. It was Drandul back then... but the whole area was considered the Gottschee Hochlands way back then before WW I. I used to have maps that even said that with the German and Slovene names for the cities. Liubiana (not spelled correctly) used to be Laibach.... wait, Trkster.... I may know who you might be, but we've emailed but never met! If you're who I think you are.... whoa!! But the picture Ballen showed looks like Lake Bled that is in the area that used to be called the Gottschee Hochlands prior to WW I , I thought...
No matter how small the country is....a tragedy is just as tragic and a lost life or lives, just as sad. 👋🇦🇺💕
@UCyemnLHSd1C9v6u5yvpfrJg No, I wasn’t, I was not even born when it happened. I think all those people were actually “sucked” in and it makes sense because we have a lot of turbines like these. It is just straight up stupid they went there in the first place.
To die so young, and just doing your menial job, that is such a heartbreaking, wrongful way to end a precious young life. This is a tragedy. Rest in eternal peace dear Debbie.
myopicseer : Disneyland closed the ride for two days and the stage on which Debbie died remained closed for a year.
The ride remained operative till 1988. Then it was shut down,
FACTS 😔 💔
8:06 I love the way he mimics the mayor and the group here in a way that emphasizes the poor decision making they made in this instance. They really were just like “I know they explicitly said don’t go over the dam because it’s extremely dangerous, but why don’t we just go over it anyway!”
The first story was on “1000 Ways to Die” and it has stuck with me ever since I saw this particular episode at a young age. They played out a scenario where John wakes up from getting wet from the water as the tide is coming in, but he is already pinned under the truck. They showed this actor trying to dig his way out but he was laying on his back and didn’t have good leverage from this position to be able to clamber his way out. Not only that, but it showed that his body was also sinking slowly in the sand during his nap so he is effectively stuck in this position, so john is crying out for help while the tide comes in and rushes over his head and back out again. It left a haunting and lasting impression on me. It sounds like one of the very worst ways to go.
really? I thought Ive seen every episode, but Ive never seen or even heard of that
John was a idiot 🙄
No way. The last death is way worse. I'd happily drown instead of get rolled up like rug breaking dozens of bones over the span of an hour.
Darwin award for sure!
I heard similar story in curious and unusual deaths but the name was different
Hi, MrBallen! Your second story brought up some sad memories. I knew mayor of Sevnica (coincidentally, the same town the ex-first lady Melania is from), Mr. Kristijan Janc. He was a kind man, approachable and mildly spoken. He supported cultural projects. In 2008, we were shocked to learn about his and the death of other dozen fine people. All Slovenia was deeply saddened. He will remain in my memory. I appreciate you delivered the story with dignity.
Cheers from Hrvatska!
@Sunlovers Keltis I’m good. On vacation at my Aunts in Drvenik. About 10 k north of Dubrovnik. I live in Chicago and heading home soon…..😢😢😢
@Sunlovers Keltis these days…..ugh. Too much politics and too much people who think communism is a good thing. I was born in the US but both my parents are from Hrvatska. Dad from Karlovac…mom from vinkovci. You?
@Sunlovers Keltis sorry. Been drinking. Same with my Hrvatski. I can talk but my writing sucks
@Sunlovers Keltis plus today is Velika Gospa so another long day. If you know what that is
Disney paid her family a "small settlement?" Granted, nothing could ever be enough, but from a multi-billion dollar company, a small settlement is an insult.
Small settlement from a “multi-billion” company is millions.
Its small for them .
But i agree nonetheless
dont they rush as many people they can out to the parking lot so they can say no ones died in the park
@@buddychubbs743 they wasn't what they were today
@@bradysmith7801 despite there being 3 confirmed deaths in the US parks already. Debbie being one of them.
Especially since her death was one of the most gruesome,prolonged and she could have been saved long before she was ultimately found dead. I get it if you are on a horror ride and you hear screaming or a rollercoaster because that is normal but how can so many people including other employees think hearing screaming in a show like this is nothing and not raise the alarm until the entire show is over and she is now dead ? I especially think the employees who heard screaming and did nothing never forget that they could have done something and the outcome could have been very different. I don't think that it would ever leave my thoughts.
I Love that you do a semi-bow every time you say, "that's all we do here."
"Isn't this the happiest place on Earth? What's that blood curdling screaming?"
"Probably part of the show."
Yeah. part of AMERICA SINGS! 🙄 right? No one thought that was weird? Plus, didn’t the staff wonder where she was to announce the beginning of the show?
@@jaclynnschaefer knowing how evil corporations are and how busy Disney is, they knew something was wrong but probably scrambled to find a replacement or whatever to keep the line flowing before the gluttonous park creatures get angwy.
@@autumnleaf3667 it wouldn’t have surprised me.
@Spanky ?
This land is your land... AAAAHHHHHHH! This land is my land... AAAAHHHHH!! From California... AAAHHHHHHHHH! To the New York island
This story brings back a very sad time as a young adult, this was true. Debbie was a member of my church, her parents were great, very humble. We were told of this accident at Disney and her death in church service. We were told his attraction was new and she was working when because of lack of foresight she was crushed. The paltry sum that her parents were given, was donated for music, pipe organ with so many beautiful pipes at her church. In her memory.
Wow, that is very very sad. God bless you and the members of your church.
It’s a very sad story. I’m shocked Disney wasn’t sued for millions and fined by workman’s comp (if they had it then). Seems like they took advantage of grieving parents to quiet the issue.
@@dianac2498 Some people just do not want money. It doesn't do anything, it can't bring a person back. It also wouldn't work as a punishment because Disney has a huge amount of money. And it wouldn't encourage them to change their ways, because Disney's parks are generally extremely safe. This was a mistake, and one they immediately fixed.
@@etherraichu True. I’m glad the family had their faith, and am glad to hear Disney took responsibility for it quickly.
@@dianac2498 you'll have to take into consideration the date of her death. i guess the legal value of human life wasn't worth that much at the time
You know when a guy is down nothing really cheers him up more than seeing a brand new Mr. Ballen upload! Keep at it buddy! You are making peoples day
Nah man. It's always been a big bag of weed that makes me better.
Hope you’re having a better day now
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My friend at work introduced me to you and I can't stop watching Lol!! You're addicting and tell stories like no other.
Congratulations. You will survive for longer than the average.
"I know we're not supposed to, but it doesn't look that bad." Famous last words. Also, on the life jackets, would you rather have one and not need it or need it and not have it?
Better to be safe than sorry in my opinion
True but life jackets probably wouldn't have saved them in this situation
@@AmberKelly82 no but I mean it was reckless from the get go.
@@queenscylla90 oh most definitely
@@AmberKelly82 Absolutely just begging fate for a disaster.
I was a kid and waiting in the America Sings line when this happened. I remember the day clearly. It was almost our turn to go in when we were turned away. The ride was down for the remainder of our visit. I never knew what really happened that day. Rumors had reached us in lines that someone died. But like the game of “telephone” by the time the news got to us it was a little girl and she was crushed between the walls from trying to get to the animal characters. Your story is the closest clarification I’ve received in all these years.
Oh my goodness, sorry that you had to be so close to that.. super crazy scary
Wowww. That’s crazyyy.
Disney: Hears screaming that is not normal in the show.
Also Disney: The show must go on, no matter what or your fired.
Micky mouse: hoho get my money bitch
Also Disney: “here’s like, 12000 dollars for your dead daughter”
You're *
@@ryanreedtv3242 so instead of your dead daughter you say your are dead daughter
@@epicmattyt6564 they were correcting the original commenter, who said “your fired” instead of “you’re fired”
But it doesn’t really matter either way
Such a music to my ear listening to your narration. So clear & I can completely picture the events on my mind based on your description. Thank you for your research, efforts & openness for feedback. I believe this channel will only get bigger & better.
The screams of someone going through severe pain and agony is actually extremely disturbing and traumatizing idk how they thought such a scream would be part of a DISNEY SHOW
It would be easy to confuse the screams of pain with the screams of utter excitement at an amusement park.
Disney is evil.
Exactly what I thought. I’m imagining horrific screaming, and it doesn’t sound like happy screams at all.
The staff should have recognized something was wrong even if the audience didn’t. That had to be awful.
Disney is dark
Debbie's story is fairly well-told here. I've heard it told from people who've worked at good ol D-Land, and you pretty much hit the nail on the head. The only part that I've heard differently in the few times I've heard the story, is whether or not she died at the first rotation or not. It is a miserable and unfortunate fate- one that shakes me to the core.
Love your content, Mr. Ballen. Your delivery is always incredible!
Yes, he did a great job telling it. Like so many other stories, you can tell he's very emotionally involved in telling it. I imagine it's hard not to be affected by some of his stories with all the research he does for them.
I don’t know why, but the Top places you can’t go and people who went anyways series just hits different 😀
Saying something “hits different” hits exactly the same as every other kid who says “hits different.”
@@johnqpublic2718 nuh uh
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Hahaha! Right? Cause everyone is thinking the same thing. WTF???
Yesss SIRRR
I live right near Disneyland, and I've heard of Debbie's story ever since I was a little kid in the 80's, but the version I heard was a bit different, and not nearly as detailed. I always wondered what actually did take place, and super happy you covered the story. Thanks!
The story about Debbie really hurt my feelings imagine being excited for your child to start a job at Disney land Just to hear she died and had a chance at living but nobody thought to help her
Disney is famous for exploting their employees and disregard their safety. I wouldn’t be excited for my child to even go there, much less work for them.
I guarantee her Fathers Soul died that very same day too.
When my little girl was growing up, she was the biggest Daddy's girl ever and that really gets a Father right in the soul and if that had happened to my little girl, they would have to hold our funerals on the same day.....
Yup, agreed!
I've read about the girl getting crushed at Disney World but it never had the detail you put into it..I thought it was awful what happened, but after hearing it described by you, I'm mortified at how negligent the rest of the staff was and the horror and pain that poor girl went through..damn dude, that was intense..
It’s so heartbreaking she didn’t deserve thar
Nah
God, how horrible for John. If only he'd slept in the truck he would have survived. So very sad 😥.
How did anyone know he went under the truck to sleep? Apparently there were no witnesses. Was an autopsy performed? This may have been a homicide.
@@Madlou Yeah, seems fishy. Who sleeps under their truck on more stable ground, much less on sand when he knew high tide may come in whilst he slept? There’s so much more that could have gone wrong than just sinking into the sand. Almost certainly foul play, unless he had a history of doing this for whatever ungodly reason.
@@Madlou Good observation!! I was just saying how dumb someone must be too sleep under a vehicle instead of inside it, it makes no sense.
@@Madlou Somr people are that stupid, I highly doubt this was a homicide.
@@Madlou I'm sure the cops never thought to investigate!
Geez, the little scream and crunching sound effects you put in were terrifying. Following along in my head, as well as the sounds all together was a very horrifying and visceral experience for that last story. Amazing storytelling, but dayum.
“This Mickey and Minnie Mouse dance number is sooooo cute and heartwarming, and the agonising screams of a girl in unimaginable distress really adds to the atmosphere”
Yeah maybe if it was the haunted mansion, I could see that but no it was a ride that had no place for a scream like that.
lmao but for real though
"Loved the show. The screams of terror were kind weird tho, but oh well!" *shrugs*
Debbie is yet another story of when everyone feels something is wrong but no one wants to be the one to speak out due to fear of being humiliated. All those people and no one wanted to sound the alarm. Debbie's happen all the time.
Totally agree and also bein a sheep
Yup being humiliated is my worst fear. I’d probably convince myself it’s something else I heard, and just ignore it
@@3000MrGian that's basically saying you want to be like every other brainless clog in that theatre. there's no humiliation in asking the employees such a simple question about where the screaming is coming from just to raise the curiosity and suspicion of the audience. if it's an attraction then cool, but if it's not, thank God someone asked to see it.
having curiosity isn't humiliating, however, it is humiliating to be completely oblivious when deep down inside you know something is wrong, but your pride prevents you from speaking up.
Kitty Genovese.
@Gian Gambino this is embarrassing
I can’t even describe what this channel does for my mental health. When I’m having a bad day, MrBallen. Having trouble falling to sleep, MrBallen. Anxiety through the roof, MrBallen. Keep doing what your doing because we appreciate it so much!
I get u
Same. Thank you MrB.
Right?！He somehow reminds us that our life is okay and our choices are not too bad. 🥲
Always perplexed me how insecure and crippled our people are becoming.
@illicitlitmisfit girl, I know. I’m one of those strange people that like to go to sleep to mystery videos, ect. Somehow it’s relaxing? Or maybe it just makes me realize things could be a WHOLE lot worse. 🤣
Same story here. From Midwest. In grad school, first time near ocean. Parked on the Florida beach. Tried body surfing. Dislocated my shoulder. Went to hospital. Came back later after tide came in, car had been half submerged, locals amazed, but got a tow truck to pull it out and drove it back to my dorm.
Imagine thinking someone screaming bloody murder is part of a happy, Disney musical...
Right, I don't how they thought it was part of the show...
shit just fucked me up bro debbie didn't deserve that!!!!
I think they were lying. They probably knew something was wrong but chose not to act.
@@DeoxysDNA or maybe they thought it was a kid screaming or someone in a ride? Idk screaming at Disney is kinda normal.. I’d still be unnerved by that though
@@KingOfGaymes That’s not the reasoning they gave when questioned so Im not giving them the benefit of the doubt.
I really miss “missing 411”, but MrBallen can make any story extremely interesting!
Pretty sure he's covered them all haha hopefully more will go missing xD
Missing 411is why I started following this channel in the first place.
Well, the guy behind the books had his own TH-cam channel now. He's probably covering the stories on there.
Me too. I want to see more Missing 411 videos.
@@Dopeymanthing I dont think you could ever cover them all. There's thousands. A lot of them just have similar stories.
The bones sound effect made the last story truly terrifying.
I'm cringing so hard
Yeah, I hope he doesn’t do that again.
I agree! 😣😖🤭
After knowing how that sound effect is produced, I guarantee that you'll never look at celery the same way again.
@@randallulrich
Oh..my..God..
Omg I recently worked in an empty hydro Reservoir and those big submerged tunnels that suck the water out gave me nightmares. It's the most terrifying thing I've ever seen, you can totally fall in and you'll be sucked into the water system without a blip on the radar. This story scared the shit out of me because I can totally see this happening.
I can't imagine anything more horrifying than getting stuck somewhere and knowing you're going to die. Mr. Ballen's 3 places video series have definitely made me more present and aware of my surroundings.
getting stuck, while being crushed multiple times, when so many people are around but no one to help seems more horrifying to me tbh, that story was awful
@@Afrintpreneur What a dumb message.
@@Afrintpreneur why just why dude
@@Afrintpreneur You could’ve just kept your mouth shut and not say something that stupid
@@julianadams3710 I replied to a wrong comment.
One of my FAVORITE (and there are many) things I adore and respect about Mr. Ballen, is his humility. If someone corrects a mistake he’s made, he is GRATEFUL, not BUTT-HURT!!! But…he’s ex-special forces, those guys learn confidence without arrogance. Impressive sir. Impressive.
Thanks for the kind words!!
debbies story is by far one of the worst i’ve ever heard on this channel. that poor poor girl. i hope she’s resting well in heaven right now 😔🙏🏽
Yeah, my thoughts and feelings exactly...and my prayers go out to Debbie...and to her family... That story is beyond tragic... Thank you for sharing Mr. Ballen, I appreciate knowing of it's happening, none the less... 💕🙏😔
I've heard that story somewhere on TH-cam can't remember where though
@@tabithapalmer5948 it’s quite popular many TH-camrs have talked about it even the ones that speak Spanish so I bet there are more from other countries who have covered it, such a sad story
And disneys cheap a** only gave a small settlement for a LIFE
Heaven doesn't exist 🤦♂️
_I just woke up from a nightmare of that dam; luckily I wasn't in the boat._ 🤯 _And now I'm listening to it!_ 😆
As meticulous as Disney is I find it very hard to believe the thought her screaming as she was being crushed to death was part the act. that gross negligence and something tell me that ride is now haunted.
also, were they not curious where she was since she didn't greet everyone at the beginning of the next show?
@@ComfortableWife that’s what I’m wondering too 💀🤚🏽
The animatronics are in Splash Mountain. Ask them.
@@biancaluedeker no wonder I hated splash mountain, for some odd reason I got the heebie-jeebies on that ride when I went on it.
Disney is the master at gross negligence...
I know something about the Disney story. Back in the mid 80's my Spanish teacher told us about that incident because at the time that it happened he had fairly high position job there. He told us that she had this really long beautiful thick blond hair and that she was sitting on something like maybe a pony wall or something, I don't remember exactly what it was but she was next to wall of the room. After the people left, I guess the building then rotates to the beginning stage and when it did that, he said that her hair had got caught and she couldn't pull free and that it crushed her between the walls. When he told the story i was under the impression that she was crushed in between a gap of an inch or two but maybe I assumed that tho.
He also told us that one of his co workers who was an old military veteran who had seen a lot of carnage in the wars had a difficult time trying to remove her body because it was almost to much for him to experience.
My Spanish teacher also old us that there have been many strange deaths that have taken place at Disney land. One of them that I remember is that some dude fell off the people mover and was run over by it and he said that the people mover runs on rail or something, like a train? and that it was difficult to remove his body cause it was pinched in the track and wheels or something like that. I can't remember the other stories but he had a few of them.
In case you are wondering, he hated Disney land.
Trapped whether by tripping or hair, this is awful. Thank you for the story, if it's true. Brings more light on how fucked up industries can be. Putting warnings and taking proper precautions could've helped. RIP
I have a half sister who worked at the park when the girl was killed in America Sings. She didn't see the scene following the accident but had friends who did and said it was pretty horrifying. She said pretty much every employee was pretty freaked out for a while after that. There have been quite a few deaths in the park over the years, another messy one was the high school senior on grad night who got drunk and decided to sneak in via the monorail track. He got hit by a train doing about 30MPH and was ground into the track surface for a good 40 feet before the train stopped.
There have been a few drownings as well in the river, drunk on grad night if I remember correctly who got jumbled up on some part of underwater gear used on the track for the Mark Twain trying to swim from Tom Sawyers Island. Someone drowned when one of the early keel boats capsized during an actual ride, they removed them as a ride after that. A kids older brother drowned trying to swim back from Tom Sawyers Island after dark with the younger kid on his back because he didn't know how to swim. Pretty sure the younger kid was ok. I spent a lot of time looking at Disney deaths over the years, its interesting to see some of the behavior behind the Disney policies that don't outright hide this stuff but don't outright volunteer any information about it either.
In every account of the People Mover death I have read it was a kid trying to jump from one car to another. It crushed him in between the cars and most of his body ground up underneath the rear car, pretty sure that was a grad night as well. I have a friend and former colleague who was only feet away from the spot where a girl hit the concrete after falling off the Drop Zone at Great America in Santa Clara. Several years later he witnessed the derailment of Big Thunder Mountain when it pulverized a guys head pretty much decapitating him.
Sometimes it can be a really small world, he has seen worse on the job as a State Trooper but you never expect to see that same level of carnage while enjoying the day at a Theme Park.
@@candycabngfl that is crazy !
Thanks for sharing that. So sad
I hate Disney too. Evil.
Dying in an extremely painful way to some creepy Disney singing animatronics is nightmare fuel. I feel so bad for her.
Absolutely 😳😭
Me too 😔
Burt Reynolds filmed "Deliverance" along the Chatooga River in North Georgia in the early '70s. 🌊🛶
damn right, being crushed to death by a mechanical attraction while the childish music covers your screaming and those creepy animatronics move takes the whole death to infernally bizarre level!
Yea, that's a really bad way to go. R.i.p
With every MrBallen video watched, my chances of survival for another year on this planet steadily increase.
Mr Ballen: "And everything was going really well"
Me: "Everything is about to go bad"
Right?? My response is usually “until it wasn’t…” 😂😂
Now dis is funny 😄
Lol, it's like the ultimate foreshadowing.
I've noticed that all the best stories have this foreshadowing "And everything was going Amazing.." 😂😂
lol, those words actually make me queasy in his videos
John: He crawled under his truck to take a nap.
Me: wut
Right? Trucks even have something called a "bed" one could use for a nap.
Ikr
I know! Why not in it? 🤔
Actually happens every so often. Had to rewind to hear date as I remember hearing about a case before this one
I don't understand but maybe to avoid sun
As a whitewater kayaker, seriously never mess around with dams. Even when they look safe there can be some super dangerous stuff going on under the surface.
Even those small low head dams can just hold you down if you go over it. They're called "drowning machines" for a reason. People get used to wading and swimming above them, not thinking about it and if the water gets slightly rougher, the place that's always been safe to swim can suck them right over and hold them under.
Same. I CANNOT BELIEVE they did that... HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW THAT YOU WILL GET SUCKED DOWN, hydroelectric or not(?)!!!! These stories make me so mad so often. I don't want anyone to suffer, but damn...come on.
Very true!!!
@Sunshine Ng it happened in Slovenia (to the mayor of Sevnica i suppose)
Dam