@@metalover2 Sure, but not every high level judoka ends up that good at BJJ in such a short time. I think we'll see a lot more of Owen over the next few years.
@@jordangill2710 yeah but Kaynan didn’t attempt to finish the fight. All of the attempts came from Craig. Feels boring to watch and eventually. He mounted and did nothing.
That’s Atos’s jam…to be fair, they are all positionally dominant on that team, but they do lack for consistent finishes against commensurate talent unless it’s the Ruotolo’s.
@@jordangill2710this has happened, Gordon ended up taking his back toward the end of the match and riding it out like that. No one was ever in much danger before that though
These matches should be reset to zero and clock removed and just let them go until someone gets tapped. Whole match with no attempts, tons of stalling and a lame win on points.
I’m new to no gi grappling/bjj. Whats the common opinion on sitting down and pulling guard as apposed to looking for a more aggressive takedown attempt ? The tactic this gentleman is taking seems to be conceding the stand up element but is that commonly done and considered a perfectly acceptable tactic ? Again I’m just starting take it easy I don’t know I’m sure this is a stupid question just trying to educate myself.
It's sportification. They can't get pinned, slammed, or punched in the face so they just sit down and don't bother with stand up. There's good reasons no one tries it in MMA anymore (except Kron Gracie and he lost big time), it's embarrassing.
@chuckgreen3629 Thing is they could attempt like a sacrifice throw, tomoe nage or something & end up in guard position. I watched a few Kosen Judo videos & that's how they start the transition a lot of the time, don't often go for shoulder throws where their back could be taken.
i dont like gordon but holy shit 🤣🤣 thats is peak delusion kaynan who just destroyed this guy quite easily , 2x adcc champion, got oblitared by gordon. Theres not a grappler alive that has a chance against gordon, and no, it isnt the steroids, since EVERYONE on adcc is on roids.
I met Owen livesy at a seminar and I can 100% guarantee is that he has NEVER used any steroids. It’s all about technique. And to be honest I think gordon Ryan is the only one out there who is cheating. The rest of them speak against steroid use !! Nick Rodriguez and John Craig’s are natural like Owen.
I met Owen livesy at a seminar and I can 100% guarantee is that he has NEVER used any steroids. It’s all about technique. And to be honest I think gordon Ryan is the only one out there who is cheating. The rest of them speak against steroid use !! Nick Rodriguez and John Craig’s are natural like Owen.
@supern0is349 Lots of U.K. black belts tell me that Owen would destroy Gordon. Owen destroyed Josh Barnett and ragdolled Nick Rod. Also I met Owen at a seminar and he spoke out against steroids ! So he’s clearly not on them
He's the same ref that gave kaynan 7 negatives for stalling, nobody knows how, he also gave Gordon Ryan a warning while he had one arm trapped in the back and he was trying to dig for the rear naked. I think he made a lot of questionable decisions to say the least.
This argument never made sense to me. Football is in the Olympics, and situations crop up in football where it's literally in the interest of both teams to play for a draw. Those matches are insanely awful to watch, and actually border on a kind of corruption. Nobody cares though. Every sport can have horribly boring matches. That's far from the problem when it comes to getting submission grappling into the Olympics.
as if that would make it better 🤣🤣🤣🤣 look at judo or TKD or boxing - even more boring AND corrupt. BJJ doesnt need to be in the olympics and the IBJJF would lose a lot of money so they will never allow it.
@@chuckgreen3629 YES LMAAAAAAO you couldnt possibly be more wrong. Judo have been banning techniques forever especificaly to harm the russians and protect the japanese. Dont even get me started on TKD, its the most boring and harmless martial art ever, you cant even get a KO because the olimpic comitee think its too violent. Judo and TKD have less viewers and make less money. High level bjj atheletes are making as much as UFC top10 UFC fighters. Is any of these martial arts in the UFC invitational?If it's so amazing to watch, why do they all have less viewers?
@@chuckgreen3629 OH YES, LMAO sure buddy keep the delulu boxing is NOTORIOUS for the direct ties with cartel's laundry money schemes, udo have been baning techniques to protect the japanes and TKD have even banned KOs because "its too violent".AThletes have zero autonomy over their carreers and must do what the olimpic comitee says, but yes they're so amazing to watch that they have less viewers than BJJ as whole
If he were docked a point for every notice for stalling, the match would have been zero zero going to OT.
Who was fighting on the next mat? The crowd is wild.
Haseim reida vs cyborg
Haisam Rida vs Cyborg Armbar
they were watching football, world cup grand final.
Kaynan is a MONSTER !
Duarte the stalling master
Man, let’s give credit to Owen- dude doesn’t even come from bjj background and has only been grappling a few years. He’s an insane natural.
the last thing he is is natural 😂
He's been grappling his whole life.
@@metalover2 Sure, but not every high level judoka ends up that good at BJJ in such a short time. I think we'll see a lot more of Owen over the next few years.
Judo
He’s been doing judo his whole life, my 6 year old judoka daughter is taught submissions, these moves originate from judo
Wow that was underwhelming..
Que modalidade é essa? O cara vivia sentado ksksks
zero submission attempts even from dominating positions. No wonder Gordon Ryan, Craig jones and that whole crew is destroying everyone.
Craig lost to Kaynan though
@@jordangill2710 yeah but Kaynan didn’t attempt to finish the fight. All of the attempts came from Craig. Feels boring to watch and eventually. He mounted and did nothing.
@@CarlosHenrique-ns3ed
That is true. Would be good to see Kaynan v Gordon.
That’s Atos’s jam…to be fair, they are all positionally dominant on that team, but they do lack for consistent finishes against commensurate talent unless it’s the Ruotolo’s.
@@jordangill2710this has happened, Gordon ended up taking his back toward the end of the match and riding it out like that. No one was ever in much danger before that though
These matches should be reset to zero and clock removed and just let them go until someone gets tapped.
Whole match with no attempts, tons of stalling and a lame win on points.
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I’m new to no gi grappling/bjj. Whats the common opinion on sitting down and pulling guard as apposed to looking for a more aggressive takedown attempt ? The tactic this gentleman is taking seems to be conceding the stand up element but is that commonly done and considered a perfectly acceptable tactic ? Again I’m just starting take it easy I don’t know I’m sure this is a stupid question just trying to educate myself.
use less energy and bjj guys are comfortable off their backs. Owen is a judo/wrestler
It's sportification. They can't get pinned, slammed, or punched in the face so they just sit down and don't bother with stand up. There's good reasons no one tries it in MMA anymore (except Kron Gracie and he lost big time), it's embarrassing.
@chuckgreen3629 Thing is they could attempt like a sacrifice throw, tomoe nage or something & end up in guard position. I watched a few Kosen Judo videos & that's how they start the transition a lot of the time, don't often go for shoulder throws where their back could be taken.
O britânico passou óleo soya . Era só por papel alumínio e pôr no forno😅
Best grappler in the U.K. Absolutely beast! Beats Gordon Ryan hands down - and I don’t care how much gear Ryan is on
i dont like gordon but holy shit 🤣🤣 thats is peak delusion
kaynan who just destroyed this guy quite easily , 2x adcc champion, got oblitared by gordon. Theres not a grappler alive that has a chance against gordon, and no, it isnt the steroids, since EVERYONE on adcc is on roids.
I met Owen livesy at a seminar and I can 100% guarantee is that he has NEVER used any steroids. It’s all about technique. And to be honest I think gordon Ryan is the only one out there who is cheating. The rest of them speak against steroid use !! Nick Rodriguez and John Craig’s are natural like Owen.
I met Owen livesy at a seminar and I can 100% guarantee is that he has NEVER used any steroids. It’s all about technique. And to be honest I think gordon Ryan is the only one out there who is cheating. The rest of them speak against steroid use !! Nick Rodriguez and John Craig’s are natural like Owen.
@supern0is349 Lots of U.K. black belts tell me that Owen would destroy Gordon. Owen destroyed Josh Barnett and ragdolled Nick Rod. Also I met Owen at a seminar and he spoke out against steroids ! So he’s clearly not on them
@@genkisudo5999 anyone with eyes can tell he's on roids 🤣 i like owen but you're just dickriding and overrating him
Owen doesnt do bjj at all
The brazilian suppose to be a black belt but butt flops and dares not to attempt a take down. Embarissing.
Well i came from Judo to watch owen but uhh... this sport hella sucks, how tf do yall watch this?
That ref needs to chill tf out.
He's the same ref that gave kaynan 7 negatives for stalling, nobody knows how, he also gave Gordon Ryan a warning while he had one arm trapped in the back and he was trying to dig for the rear naked. I think he made a lot of questionable decisions to say the least.
And shave his head
Duarte 3
Livesey 0
That was like a draw.
I agree with you! Kaynan was stalling like fuck by just butt scooting!
Dominant match????? He sat on his butt the whole time.
Boring performance.
Effective and didn’t use much energy. It was tactical
@@Alex-ut7op doesn't mean it wasn't boring as hell
Owen ist beter
This match is a prime example of why Jiujitsu will never be in the Olympics. Boring as hell!!!
This argument never made sense to me. Football is in the Olympics, and situations crop up in football where it's literally in the interest of both teams to play for a draw. Those matches are insanely awful to watch, and actually border on a kind of corruption. Nobody cares though. Every sport can have horribly boring matches. That's far from the problem when it comes to getting submission grappling into the Olympics.
as if that would make it better 🤣🤣🤣🤣
look at judo or TKD or boxing - even more boring AND corrupt.
BJJ doesnt need to be in the olympics and the IBJJF would lose a lot of money so they will never allow it.
@@supern0is349 judo, TKD, and boxing are less boring and corrupt than BJJ.
@@chuckgreen3629 YES LMAAAAAAO you couldnt possibly be more wrong. Judo have been banning techniques forever especificaly to harm the russians and protect the japanese. Dont even get me started on TKD, its the most boring and harmless martial art ever, you cant even get a KO because the olimpic comitee think its too violent. Judo and TKD have less viewers and make less money. High level bjj atheletes are making as much as UFC top10 UFC fighters. Is any of these martial arts in the UFC invitational?If it's so amazing to watch, why do they all have less viewers?
@@chuckgreen3629 OH YES, LMAO
sure buddy keep the delulu
boxing is NOTORIOUS for the direct ties with cartel's laundry money schemes, udo have been baning techniques to protect the japanes and TKD have even banned KOs because "its too violent".AThletes have zero autonomy over their carreers and must do what the olimpic comitee says, but yes they're so amazing to watch that they have less viewers than BJJ as whole
The referee should of told the brazilian to earn his take down. Butt flopping and falling to the ground should not be allowed.
I can’t believe how big Duarte looks.