The name HAJ/HAG (pilgrimage) is derived from the name HAJARA/HAGAR... Due to the sacrifice of a mother(Hagar) and child(Ishmael) in the wilderness of PARAN... The meaning of the name Ishmael is "God Hearkened"... It means God Hearkened.... Yes, God of Abraham Hearkened the sacrifice of the mother and child... Source of the name reflect the truth... Oh you poor Jay... Feel sorry for your poor knowledge of the scripture...
@@akrampeace696 sacrifice of Hagar and ishmael? How u mean? Abraham kicked both Hagar and ishmael to the curb and sent them to Egypt when he chose his “only beloved son ISAAC”! Ur poor poor knowledge of scripture is offensive.
You guys are doing absolutely invaluable work, not only for today, but for all posterity. As long as the world has the internet, your scholarship will be known and disseminated. God Speed! ✝
Yes, arabs were idol worshippers. After accepting islam, they worship and submit the will of allah; non-else but allah. The kaabah is the direction towards which the muslim face during the 5 times daily prayers (and all other optional prayers). Muslims do not worship the kaabah. The muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone. Yes, all the previous prophet perform the haj; including abraham, ishmael, isaac, mosess (and even jesus, in his second coming), as ordained by allah.So, there bound to be some similarities in the rituals.
@@generaljg4373 Prove it. The Bible's message is preserved and the Qur'an proves it. There are many different versions to help different intellectual levels to understand it. Go educate yourself. How many different Qur'an versions are there? And how many missing Suras and Ayat are there? There are 93,000 differences in the Quir'aat. Hafs Qur'an Warsh Qur'an Doori Qur'an And over 30+ other versions scattered around the world.
I love it when Al Fadi gets annoyed by Smith, when he corrects just because he wants to say you are jumping the gun XD His face is so funny. Nevertheless they are a great duo and are doing great work !
Even though I did not grow up in a home that was religious in any shape or form, I began reading the Bible before attending kindergarten. By the time I was 12 I had read it through numerous times. I began to read the Quran when I was 12 and was not all that surprised to find its overwhelming plagiarism of the Bible. It has been many years since I have read the Quran, but I recall back then there was a group of passages that was nearly a verbatim match to Psalm 102. It was clear to me at that age that someone/s was inspired to invent a religion for Arab peoples, along the lines of Judaism & Christianity, so I out of hand dismissed the Quran, as beyond question a manmade religious text. I was also wise enough at that young age to grasp, a religion requiring violent evangelism through the sword by human agents, cannot be the product of the Creator of the Universe.
The name HAJ/HAG (pilgrimage) itself is derived from the name HAJARA/HAGAR... Due to the sacrifice of a mother(Hagar) and child(Ishmael) in the wilderness of PARAN... The meaning of the name Ishmael is "God Hearkened"... It means God Hearkened.... Yes, God of Abraham Hearkened the sacrifice of the mother and child... Source of the name reflect the truth... Oh you poor Jay... Feel sorry for your poor knowledge of the scripture...
Yes, arabs were idol worshippers. After accepting islam, they worship and submit the will of allah; non-else but allah. The kaabah is the direction towards which the muslim face during the 5 times daily prayers (and all other optional prayers). Muslims do not worship the kaabah. The muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone. Yes, all the previous prophet perform the haj; including abraham, ishmael, isaac, mosess (and even jesus, in his second coming), as ordained by allah.So, there bound to be some similarities in the rituals.
@@nwachinemere7759 Islam means submission to one God: muslim means one who submit of one god. Thus, right from adam, noah, abraham, ishmael, isaac, david, moses to jesus; they are muslims; not pre muslim nor pre islamic. Thus, their stories and belief, and the stories they told, the message they brought, were islamic in nature. But quran corrected errors in the stories written by men, earlier than the quran. Simple eg. is the term king and pharoah corrected by the quran.
Since you know the Jews did not specifically have ''hajj'', it clearly adds to the awareness that Islam is false and has nothing to do with the God of Israel to whom falling before stones is an abomination.
@@generaljg4373 😂😂 we don’t care! We are doing your homework for you Muslim.. That put us in serious advantage and advancement over you! To shake the world for the future! Muslim are arrogant and fool who dare not to do research of ask questions to know because they believe they already know it all!!!😂😂
Every time Jay says something was copied or borrowed, I can't help but wish these terms would be applied to Plagiarism, a punishable offense in most academic environments, by way of being expelled from the institution.
Please do one on how they tried to copy the dietary laws given by Moses since they also claim him as one their prophets. Except that they failed miserably because they have no idea that eating camel and rabbits are also forbidden. When copying, the least one can do is to do a complete job and not a half-baked one. And they do love their roasted camels which are unclean according the Law. Break one aspect of the Law, the entire is broken. Only Jesus Christ can set us free from sin and eternal damnation through His blood.
@@generaljg4373 Oh he saved himself. He died bodily but took up his life again, and rose to heaven. And now he knows no death, and those in him will never know the eternal death either.
You guys are my favorite. I always laugh out loud when al fadi is trying to explain himself and Jay isn't having it 😅 🤣. I love your work and your ministry. I share it with my "Muslim" friends. 🤙
The name HAJ/HAG (pilgrimage) is derived from the name HAJARA/HAGAR... Due to the sacrifice of a mother(Hagar) and child(Ishmael) in the wilderness of PARAN... The meaning of the name Ishmael is "God Hearkened"... It means God Hearkened.... Yes, God of Abraham Hearkened the sacrifice of the mother and child... Source of the name reflect the truth... Oh you poor Jay... Feel sorry for your poor knowledge of the scripture...
Ishmael is depicted as a little baby in Islam but the bible says that the reason Hagar and Ishmael got kicked out of the house was because Ishmael was making fun of his much younger half-brother, Isaac. Ishmael, according to Genesis, was in his teens - hardly a little baby.
@@voiceofone3641 - No, you read Genesis: Gen 17:24-25 - And Abraham was ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. 25 And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. Isaac wasn't born until the following year. Gen. 17:21 (three verses earlier) - But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year. Genesis 21:1-5 - And the Lord visited Sarah as he had said, and the Lord did unto Sarah as he had spoken. 2 For Sarah conceived, and bare Abraham a son in his old age, at the set time of which God had spoken to him. 3 And Abraham called the name of his son that was born unto him, whom Sarah bare to him, Isaac. 4 And Abraham circumcised his son Isaac being eight days old, as God had commanded him. 5 And Abraham was an hundred years old, when his son Isaac was born unto him. Prosecution rests, your honor.
When I read this hadith: "Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Allah has ninety-nine Names, one-hundred less one; and he who memorized them all by heart will enter Paradise." To count something means to know it by heart." (Sahih Bukhari 98, 7481) I am reminded of this verse in the Torah: "And now, O Israel, what does the Lord, your God, demand of you? Only to fear the Lord, your God, to walk in all His ways and to love Him, and to worship the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul," (Deuteronomy 10:12) The word for what (mah) can alternatively be read mei'ah (one hundred), an indication that the means of achieving fear of God is by reciting one hundred blessings each day (Menochos 43b) Rabbi Jacob ben Asher (the Tur) explains that King David (pbuh), based on this teaching, instituted the practice of reciting God's name in 100 blessings per day.
Hi friend what Christian Prince said is not really true. Hindus do prey to idols coz there is a reason . For Hindus they don't believe that all their sin will be forgiven just by prey or by doing any rituals . According to Vedas of Hindus u have to face what bad ever u do in hell and by doing good deeds to others u will be placed in heaven.
Many thanks for this, which I shall forward in a timely way to UK news outlets for the June Hajj this year. Perhaps the matter has been mentioned elsewhere but rather than "Peter" Ellis, it was Paul Ellis.
Hindsight is 20-20 and the story lines written by Islamic authors seem to be jumping the gun all over the place. This video is another reason why Shaykh Dr. Yasir Qadhi use of the words, "holes in the narrative" seems rather appropriate.
I’ve been speculating that the sakhra = the Acra = Gabbatha. It all makes the history of the Temple Mount come together. Maybe Sapha = Sakhra and Marwa = Morhia too?
Josephus mentions Mt. Scopus; however, the mount called Scopus today was only named such at the term of the 20th century for a fundraising campaign for Hebrew University. They don't actually know where Scopus is for certain.
Yes, Hajj is most likely the Arabic equivalent of 'chag' in Hebrew. It seems to originally define a religious festal offering / festival that needed to be performed in the presence of God. This is thus only applied to three of the appointed times given to Israel (Unleavened Bread, Weeks & Tabernacles) that were kept in Jerusalem. I'm glad that the cube - Holy of Holies connection was made. Also, before the establishment of Jerusalem, Israel would gather at 'gilgal' a word pointing to encircling processions.
During early Roman rule, heathen Arabs would already come from afar to pay homage to the sun god Ilah al Jabal which was Latinized by the Romans into Elagabalus, and referred to by the Greeks as Heliogabalos. This Arab Sun god was worshiped in Emesa, Syria (now called Homs) in the form of a black rock, probably a meteor that had fallen from the heavens. The young Marcus Antoninus who inherited the throne of the Roman emperors in AD 218 was so devoted to the adoration of this stone that he took the name of the god, Elagabalus, and brought the black rock back to Rome where it was worshiped as Sol Invictus, the Unconquered Sun. However, the gay young emperor was an embarrassment for various reasons, and the Roman Senate soon arranged for his execution, after which the black rock was returned to its original home in Emesa. I have been unable to discover what happened to the sacred black rock of the Arabs after it was returned to Emesa/Homs, but in the early Islamic period a black rock shows up a little farther south in Petra, the trading center, where it too is a focus of pilgrimages by the Arabs. Later the black rock of Petra will be carted south to Mecca during an intra-Islamic war where it remains an object of veneration by pilgrims to this day. Is the black of Emesa/Homs and the black rock of Petra which was later moved to Mecca the same black rock? Did the black rock of Allah begin its career as the black rock of Ilah al Jabal?
Yes, arabs were idol worshippers. After accepting islam, they worship and submit the will of allah; non-else but allah. The kaabah is the direction towards which the muslim face during the 5 times daily prayers (and all other optional prayers). Muslims do not worship the kaabah. The muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone. Yes, all the previous prophet perform the haj; including abraham, ishmael, isaac, mosess (and even jesus, in his second coming), as ordained by allah.So, there bound to be some similarities in the rituals.
@@sethsuleiman4419 The ancient writings, biblical and non biblical, say nothing about Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Moses or Jesus kissing a black rock. However, pagan Arabs did worship a black rock. I understand that Muslims no longer worship their black rock as a deity, but they do venerate it, yet appear to have forgotten the origins of this custom, perhaps deliberately forgotten.
@@michaels4255 I repeat, "muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love, reverence and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone nor they ever had". Ask any muslim in china, japan, korea right across to europe and america; you will be told the same thing.
Great: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
Number 7 appears anywhere in ancient cultures. I can't recall the book I read many years ago, but it said that the number 7 refers to the 7 moving 'bodies' in our sky: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.
Yes, arabs were idol worshippers. After accepting islam, they worship and submit the will of allah; non-else but allah. The kaabah is the direction towards which the muslim face during the 5 times daily prayers (and all other optional prayers). Muslims do not worship the kaabah. The muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone. Yes, all the previous prophet perform the haj; including abraham, ishmael, isaac, mosess (and even jesus, in his second coming), as ordained by allah.So, there bound to be some similarities in the rituals.
@@nunya54 Did God appear before Moses as fire (burning bush)? How is it that your god can be a burning bush but not a man? Some strange limitation or weakness?
You don't get it at all, this persons are role models , they defend the gospel and Christianity and I think after the apostles, they are the next that you wish to follow up. So it's not bad when one ask the church they attend? One will want to go to same church too. Paul said be my follower as I follow Christ. So to follow this ones is still good.
We should remember that prophet Muhammad pbuh was not only our prophet but the one foretold by the Jews. Islam is a continuation of Judaism. Abraham is the founder of our religion.
I think just because imams have told them that and they believe it. I’ve seen moslem posts where they are very aware allah’s a different god from YHVH, and also those who in error think allah’s the same.
@@genjor6630 The god allah is not the Judeo-Christian YHVH God of the Bible; he is the crescent moon god of muhammad’s Quryash tribe. There is no record of any new monotheistic god being introduced to the Arabs as they were all already familiar with allah. All muhammad did was to eradicate the lesser gods and goddesses of the Arabic pantheon of gods and proclaim allah the largest. The true Elohim Creator God YHVH and the god allah speak with completely different voices, have different sets of moral code and law by which their followers are to live, and only YHVH has reached down and made a clear way of salvation. The god allah hates YHVH and His children and mandates that his people destroy both. On no planet are these the same deity.
It's almost like God's pattern never changes 😱 "This is] the established way of Allāh which has occurred before. And never will you find in the way of Allāh any change." 48:23
@@generaljg4373 Muzlims go to kabba to kiss the filthy black stone & to inhale the smelly piss and poo of great warrior AbuTahir Al-Jannabi who pissed and poo on it for 21 years. Muzlim's ola🦉could not do anything but thanked the great warrior AbuTahir Al-Jannabi for his heroic act👍
What make you think Christian pray to the Pope. That's the problem with all the Abdools.. Allah is moon God who has no spirit, 2 hands on his right, one leg and has shin. Its written in your Quran. Do you really know your book?
@@generaljg4373 Don't know out of what phonebook you got your source moonworshipper. Don't be ignorant and actually read the quran, you'll find Jesus not Issa according to islam .
@@generaljg4373 Why is it Muslims think they know Christian’s better than themselves?! Why do Muslims love to Justify their BS will false comparisons🤔 please tell me because no Christian prays to the pope and no True Christian even acknowledges the pope as a man of God so please explain yourself! You just make things up to try validate your own foolishness yet still choose to stay in that cult called Islam when you are having to lie to justify it 🤦🏼♀️🤣🤣🤣🤡
I put into question the statement that after 70 AD the Jews were driven into diaspora.The majority of Jews in 70 AD were already living and working through out the Roman world.The temple was destroyed in 70 and after Jewish worship was no longer Temple based.In 135 AD there was another Jewish revolt ,so therefore it was obvious Jews were present in Palistine.
I have repeated this issue with Muslims many time that majority of rituals in Islam is purely from Judaism but the Muslims doesn't accept it. To me, Islam is connected to Judaism, nothing more and nothing less.
@@nunya54 You're funny. It was Allah that invented abrogations for his eternal book. That is your god saying one thing, then changing his mind. I have a list of 100+ errors in the Quran, like, heavens or Earth? Which was created first? First earth and then heaven [2:29], heaven and after that earth [79:27-30].
@@nunya54 “Whenever I abrogate any verse or cause it to be forgotten, I bring one better than it, or similar to it, don’t you know that God is able to do all things?” - The Quran, 2:106 So why didn't your Allah say the correct or superior verse the first time if he is a true god?
God saved you by his grace when you believed. It is a gift from God. Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it. Ephesians 2:8-9. This is how Satan has decived Christianity. You don't have to do good works to please God. You are already going to heaven.
In the Muslim view of Islam as a continuity of old Jewish and Christian tradition, "copied" is not the right word or at least, it doesn't make any sense. Same rituals and steps in the case of Hajj, just as the black phylacteries still in use among the Jews, may well be regarded as simple evidence of the same tradition, starting from Abraham and continuing through the biblical Prophets until Muhammad (p.b.u.h.). After all, Muslims have always known that Hajj existed since centuries even among the pre-Islamic pagan Arabs, that claimed to have inherited it from Abraham and his son Ismael. All this does not constitute a "copy", but a conscious continuity of the same revelation.
Dr. Jay I think you're getting it wrong. I've been following this series for quite some time and it seems rather that first century Islam was fabricated by Jews. Principally by Umar who coincidentally is also one of the earliest people to be referred to as MHMD (The Praise One)
Hajj for jews is worshipping saturn/satan same as for Muslims. They are the synagogue of satan (Rev 2:9 & 3:9). The 666 star is saturn/satan worship (Amos 5:26 & Acts 7:43), it has nothing to do with David, they are descended from Cain and Edom, not Jacob/Israel (Matt 23). They are liars and antichrists (1 John 2:22-23) because they don't believe Jesus is the Christ. At least Muslims believe Jesus is the Christ (Messiah), the synagogue of satan doesn't even believe that.
@@Gideon_Judges6 Hajj ritual, prayer to the black stone (Alloh SWT) 👇 MUSLIM READ THIS PRAYER IN FRONT OF THE ASWAD STONE Labbaik alaahumma labbaika Labbaika laa Syarikalaka labaik Innal hamda wan nimata laka walmulk Laa Syaariika laka 3 times. It means: I fulfill Your call O Allah, I fulfill Your call, there is no partner for You. I fulfill Your call. Verily, all praise and favors and kingdom are only for You, you have no partners. (From afar Muslims pray 5x/day towards the black stone of the Hajar Aswad at the Kaaba of Mecca)
@@secondone5870 Yes, arabs were idol worshippers. After accepting islam, they worship and submit the will of allah; non-else but allah. The kaabah is the direction towards which the muslim face during the 5 times daily prayers (and all other optional prayers). Muslims do not worship the kaabah. The muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone. Yes, all the previous prophet perform the haj; including abraham, ishmael, isaac, mosess (and even jesus, in his second coming), as ordained by allah.So, there bound to be some similarities in the rituals.
@@sethsuleiman4419 Muslim, always remember, Yahwe the God of Abraham, Ishak and Jacob is very different with ALLOH SWT the God of Islam. Black stone is the right hand of ALLOH SWT. Muslim worship black stone Hajar Aswad clearly!
@@secondone5870 (1). "Black stone is the right hand of ALLOH SWT. Muslim worship black stone Hajar Aswad clearly!". That is what you firmly say. But, muslim firmly say, "The muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone". (2). "Yahwe the God of Abraham, Ishak and Jacob". That is what you say. But, muslim firmly say, "Allah is the god of adam, noah, abraham, ishmael, isaac, david, solomon, moses, jesus and muhammad pbuh".
Jay should really allow Fadi to give his input bit more. You guys are butting heads over trivial things because of it and it disrupts the flow of the video. We love you Jay but give Fadi some love too, it doesn't need to follow your flow perfectly, allow both of you to input your knowledge into the conversation.
Dr. Jay when Islam conquers a piece land don't they believe it is theirs forever.If this is correct then,was the Dome of the Rock built to keep the Temple from ever being rebuilt?
Your guys are great 👍. I am very pleased to learn more. Its unfolding the truths about Muslims. More or less the entire statuscor is point back to the time of Ismail who is the father of the islamic world. They are try to claim blessings promise to Issac but God keeps His promises all throughout the generation
@@generaljg4373 yes it is but nearly 2millions moslem convert to Christian every year. It is written in a Holy Bible in the end of time, ppl will see the Thruth even they can't say it openly coz in moslem the kill of ppl who convert to others faith is halal. How can it be? Torah forbid every kind of murders so why moslems still do it this sin? Hypocrites
I always wonder why Muslims celebrate the Haj rituals when the rituals are closer to the practise of the Jews. The Kaaba was rebuilt by Ibrahim and his 1st born son, Ismail with Hajar the Egyptian. The sacrifice of the 1st born son, Ismail seen in a dream by the patriarch Ibrahim.
I think Petra was just another site of worship of Yahweh (or one of his brothers). We know there were many worship sites before the first temple. One still exists and is used today, Mount Gerizim. I think Petra is another.
When the Jews were freed from their Babylonian captivity (538 BCE), the Samaritans were already well-settled around Mount Gerizim. One of their structures there is actually called Kaaba (even today), and was used for circumambulation. The freed Jews were settled at Hebron. So they established their holy site at Mt Hebron. I believe it was destroyed by the rulers with the the help of Samaritans who did not want competition for their pilgrimage site. The Jewish temple moved to Petra. The structure would have been called Mukaab (shortened later to Makkah). Around 200 BCE, Judas Maccabeus ("the Mukaab-ite") from Petra rebelled against the rulers, and managed to take control of the Greek Temple Mount, the location of the Temple for Zeus. The site became the Kaaba for the Jews. Post 70 CE, the brothers of Jesus (the Nazarenes) reestablished the Petra Kaaba when the Temple Mount went back to the Zeus-worshippers. The Nazarene Kaaba remained active at Petra until 637 CE when 'Umar ibn al-Khattab of the Nazarenes reestablished the (Nazarene/Jewish) Kaaba on the Temple Mount. When Abbasids became the rulers, the Kaaba would have been shifted to Petra (c. 760 CE), and then again to the newly setup Saudi Makkah (c. 800 CE).
@@vicmath1005 Much of what you said is provably incorrect, but the insight about the Samaritans is useful. I still think that Islam is the combination of first-temple Judaism and Christianity. Excluded parts of Judaism and Christianity fled into the desert.This resulted from the existing Semitic beliefs + the first-temple refugees + non-Pauline refugees all mixing up into what we call Islam.
You mean Al Fadi used history and the truth. Truth is not hate. Muslims are the ones that hate. Can you make decisions for yourself or are you told what to think.
@@georgeo785 Oh come on George, l have watched and listened to Jay Smith, Al Fadi, David Wood, Christian prince, Sam shamoun, Robert Spencer and a host of others. They hated Muhammad and Islam. Show me one Muslim who hated Jesus Christ???
This is fun! The copy/paste, change (and add pathological "holy hate, deception and love of death") must have started with the sense of inferiority of not having a Reader... a book and with envy of the "People of the Reader." Eventually, someone must have taken the ancient Hebrew Reader, Mikrah, and created an Arabic Reader, Kor'an (in both Semitic languages KRA is the root of verb, to read). Then came the nation building attempt. And so the Hebrew Umah of Benei Israel (children of Israel) which turned into Umah Islamiyya and, much later, into Umah Arabiyya. And the best is the Hebrew Beit haMikdash (Jewish Temple) slightly morphing into in Arabic into, Beit alMakdes (the name of the Kor'an for Jerusalem). Sadly, even controlling 99.75% of the Arab-Jewish land pie (and Arabizing, Islamizing, enslaving and oppressing outside the Arab-Jewish land pie millions of non Arabs) is not enough to cure that deficit envy and hate ad psychiatrist Wafa Sultan describes her own experience and insight in Syria.
The Hajj - We don't understand where is the similarity between Islam and Judaism. Hajj is performed with sacrifice of animals. Do the Judaism have the same practice ??
Muhammad said he received messages from Jibril in the cave was also plagiarised from how John wrote the book of revelations in Bible also written in cave.
And who did the Talmudists copy their holy books from? How about the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Egyptians, and especially, the Persians. I'm not talking about "Biblical" history, instead I focus on archeology.
nothing in Islam was copied or created it is actually corrected or renewed we see similarities because everithing is coming from same Creator ,if you guys don't know this your discussion is pointless.
Good work Jay and Alfadi ------ False prophets shall come in the latter day's as prophesied..In scriptures there is NO illiterate prophet, yet islams perfect example could not read or write? SIN cannot claim before moo=ham=mad because it started with the obvious false prophet....Temple mount is not where the arabs have their dome...Jesus said NO stone shall be left upon one another. So where does the western or wailing wall come from because its not from the temple.
Quran says Christians, Jews, Muslims and the Sabians worship the same God. = So your whole argument just evaporated. The same stories should naturally align .
You asked about these Ishmaelites that you said were not idol worshippers and your rabbi told you that they were idol worshipers and the stones they cast them out In their teraphim they belong to Markulis (probably refers to the Dolmen) …Truly, the Ishmaelites had earlier in those places three types of idol worship [Baal]Peor and Markulis and Chemosh, and they themselves admit these things today and call them names in the Arabic language.. And Markulis is worshipped through throwing stones .. and these things are all explained and known to us before the religion of the Ishmaelites took hold. But the Ishmaelites today say... it is that the stones we throw them into the face of Satan and throw them in order to confuse him.And others of their scholars have a reason and say idols were there and we stone the place they once stood standing , meaning we don’t believe in the demigods that once stood here , and by way of blasphemy to them, I cursed them, and others say that this is the custom , the crux of the matter is , although its origin was idolatrous there is no person that throws the stones or prostrates at that place or any of the other things that are done there for the sake of idolatry . but their hearts are devoted to heaven." Maimonides response to Obadiah the convert Response 448
"AND WHEN ISSA/YESHUA, THE SON OF MARY, SAID, "O CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, INDEED I AM THE MESSENGER OF GOD to you confirming what came before me of the TORAH and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, WHOSE NAME IS AHMAD." But when he came to them with CLEAR EVIDENCE, they said, "This is OBVIOUS MAGIC/LIE"" (As-Saff 61: Verse 06) AHMAD FROM YATHRIB NOT FROM MECCA... "And when a faction of THEM SAID, "O PEOPLE OF YATHRIB, there is no stability for you [here], so return [home]." And a party of them asked permission of THE PROPHET, SAYING, "Indeed, OUR HOUSES ARE UNPROTECTED," while they were not exposed. THEY DID NOT INTEND EXCEPT TO FLEE." (Al-Ahzaab 33: Verse 13) AND THE CITY OF YATHRIB WAS CLOSE TO THE MOUNT SINAI..... "AND A TREE ISSUING FROM MOUNT SINAI which PRODUCES OIL AND FOOD FOR THOSE WHO EAT." (Al-Muminoon 23: Verse 20) "And indeed, for you in LIVESTOCK IS A LESSON. WE GIVE YOU DRINK FROM THAT WHICH IS IN THEIR BELLIES, AND FOR YOU IN THEM ARE NUMEROUS BENEFITS, AND FROM THEM YOU EAT." (Al-Muminoon 23: Verse 21) "BY THE FIG AND THE OLIVE" AND MOUNT SINAI" (At-Tin 95: Verse 01-02) "And We gave Moses the Scripture, after We had destroyed the former generations, as enlightenment for the people and guidance and mercy that they might be reminded." (Al-Qasas 28: Verse 43) "And YOU (AHMAD) WERE NOT ON THE WESTERN SIDE [of the mount] WHEN WE REVEALED TO MOSES THE COMMAND, AND YOU WERE NOT AMONG THE WITNESSES." (Al-Qasas 28: Verse 44) YATHRIB WAS UNDER THE ROMAN EMPIRE PLUS THEY WERE USING ROMAN COINS. غُلِبَتِ الرُّوْمُ "THE ROMAN HAVE BEEN DEFEATED" "IN THE NEAREST LAND. BUT THEY, AFTER THEIR DEFEAT, WILL OVERCOME." (Ar-Room 30: Verse 02-03) "AND AMONG THE PEOPLE OF THE SCRIPTURE IS HE WHO, if you entrust him with a great amount he will return it to you. And among them is he who, if you entrust him with A DINARIUS/SILVER COIN, he will not return it to you unless you are constantly standing over him . That is because they say, There is no blame upon us concerning the unlearned." And they speak untruth about GOD while they know [it]." (Aal-i-Imraan 03: Verse 75) THEREFORE AHMAD AND MUHAMMAD IS NOT THE SAME PERSON. MUHAMMAD BORN AND RAISED IN MECCA. THE CITY OF MECCA IS NOT EVEN ONCE MENTION IN THE QUR'AN. MECCA WAS A NON EXISTENCE CITY. AHMAD BORN AND RAISED IN YATHRIB.
I use your material to teach my class on Islam here in Indonesia. Thank you.
What kind of class in Indonesia? They will beat you n burn your abode over there..
The name HAJ/HAG (pilgrimage) is derived from the name HAJARA/HAGAR... Due to the sacrifice of a mother(Hagar) and child(Ishmael) in the wilderness of PARAN... The meaning of the name Ishmael is "God Hearkened"... It means God Hearkened.... Yes, God of Abraham Hearkened the sacrifice of the mother and child... Source of the name reflect the truth... Oh you poor Jay... Feel sorry for your poor knowledge of the scripture...
Teach the Bible....Ditch Islam ✝️
@@akrampeace696 sacrifice of Hagar and ishmael? How u mean? Abraham kicked both Hagar and ishmael to the curb and sent them to Egypt when he chose his “only beloved son ISAAC”! Ur poor poor knowledge of scripture is offensive.
@@temporaryaccount5307 Amen,
Well said.!!
Thanks for telling the truth about Islam
All the blessings from london
You guys are doing absolutely invaluable work, not only for today, but for all posterity. As long as the world has the internet, your scholarship will be known and disseminated. God Speed! ✝
Copied from the Jews while the Jews do not have any kind of hajj. Ha ha ha!
Yes, arabs were idol worshippers. After accepting islam, they worship and submit the will of allah; non-else but allah. The kaabah is the direction towards which the muslim face during the 5 times daily prayers (and all other optional prayers). Muslims do not worship the kaabah.
The muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone.
Yes, all the previous prophet perform the haj; including abraham, ishmael, isaac, mosess (and even jesus, in his second coming), as ordained by allah.So, there bound to be some similarities in the rituals.
that implies that Islam is not an original religion and that its practices and beliefs are borrowed from Judaism.
Which bible do real Christians read? There's many different bibles with missing verses and added verses
@@generaljg4373
Prove it. The Bible's message is preserved and the Qur'an proves it.
There are many different versions to help different intellectual levels to understand it. Go educate yourself.
How many different Qur'an versions are there? And how many missing Suras and Ayat are there? There are 93,000 differences in the Quir'aat.
Hafs Qur'an
Warsh Qur'an
Doori Qur'an
And over 30+ other versions scattered around the world.
I love it when Al Fadi gets annoyed by Smith, when he corrects just because he wants to say you are jumping the gun XD His face is so funny. Nevertheless they are a great duo and are doing great work !
Even though I did not grow up in a home that was religious in any shape or form, I began reading the Bible before attending kindergarten. By the time I was 12 I had read it through numerous times. I began to read the Quran when I was 12 and was not all that surprised to find its overwhelming plagiarism of the Bible. It has been many years since I have read the Quran, but I recall back then there was a group of passages that was nearly a verbatim match to Psalm 102. It was clear to me at that age that someone/s was inspired to invent a religion for Arab peoples, along the lines of Judaism & Christianity, so I out of hand dismissed the Quran, as beyond question a manmade religious text. I was also wise enough at that young age to grasp, a religion requiring violent evangelism through the sword by human agents, cannot be the product of the Creator of the Universe.
Jay Smith finished one of the Islam's pillar within 5minutes
The name HAJ/HAG (pilgrimage) itself is derived from the name HAJARA/HAGAR... Due to the sacrifice of a mother(Hagar) and child(Ishmael) in the wilderness of PARAN... The meaning of the name Ishmael is "God Hearkened"... It means God Hearkened.... Yes, God of Abraham Hearkened the sacrifice of the mother and child... Source of the name reflect the truth... Oh you poor Jay... Feel sorry for your poor knowledge of the scripture...
Shalom Brother's and Sisters..love from Australia 🇦🇺 🇦🇲 ♥️
Copied from the Jews while the Jews do not have any kind of hajj. Ha ha ha!
Oy oy oy mate
For God loved the world so much he kiled his own son 🥰✝️🤩
Jesus lay his life down then took it back up. victory!!!
@@generaljg4373 Yes, mupedohammad loved maled to male relationship til climax, sunan abi dawud 5224
Islam exposed hard in this channel .
Copied from the Jews while the Jews do not have any kind of hajj. Ha ha ha!
Yes, arabs were idol worshippers. After accepting islam, they worship and submit the will of allah; non-else but allah. The kaabah is the direction towards which the muslim face during the 5 times daily prayers (and all other optional prayers). Muslims do not worship the kaabah.
The muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone.
Yes, all the previous prophet perform the haj; including abraham, ishmael, isaac, mosess (and even jesus, in his second coming), as ordained by allah.So, there bound to be some similarities in the rituals.
Yes but beware some of Al-Fadi's guests (e.g. Lloyd De Jonge) are pro-jew propagandists and will readily slander any anti-jew realist as an abdul!
Almost everything about Islam was copied from other religious beliefs, especially Jewish religious traditions.
@@nwachinemere7759 Islam means submission to one God: muslim means one who submit of one god. Thus, right from adam, noah, abraham, ishmael, isaac, david, moses to jesus; they are muslims; not pre muslim nor pre islamic. Thus, their stories and belief, and the stories they told, the message they brought, were islamic in nature.
But quran corrected errors in the stories written by men, earlier than the quran. Simple eg. is the term king and pharoah corrected by the quran.
Alfadi's videos are very helpful to us.
Copied from the Jews while the Jews do not have any kind of hajj. Ha ha ha!
Since you know the Jews did not specifically have ''hajj'', it clearly adds to the awareness that Islam is false and has nothing to do with the God of Israel to whom falling before stones is an abomination.
This video implies that Islam is not an original religion and that its practices and beliefs are borrowed from Judaism.
Al fadi can find hidden things in Islam according to his false research but he can't find the trinity in the bible😂
@@generaljg4373 😂😂 we don’t care! We are doing your homework for you Muslim..
That put us in serious advantage and advancement over you!
To shake the world for the future!
Muslim are arrogant and fool who dare not to do research of ask questions to know because they believe they already know it all!!!😂😂
Every time Jay says something was copied or borrowed, I can't help but wish these terms would be applied to Plagiarism, a punishable offense in most academic environments, by way of being expelled from the institution.
Yes majority of Islam plagiarized from Jews and christian scriptures but by distorting worstly
Shalom, truth always exposed in the end. Great video. 👍🏼
Two great minds exposing Islam as a giant scam
Great job, Jay and Al Fadi!
Please do one on how they tried to copy the dietary laws given by Moses since they also claim him as one their prophets. Except that they failed miserably because they have no idea that eating camel and rabbits are also forbidden. When copying, the least one can do is to do a complete job and not a half-baked one. And they do love their roasted camels which are unclean according the Law. Break one aspect of the Law, the entire is broken. Only Jesus Christ can set us free from sin and eternal damnation through His blood.
Didn't Paul break the law and now Christians can eat whatever they want?
Nice fairytale bro but the dude on the cross couldn't even save himself from the cross let alone saving humanity
Muhd is rolling in his mud grave. Allah can't save him from the dark domain of ignorance.
@@generaljg4373 Oh he saved himself. He died bodily but took up his life again, and rose to heaven. And now he knows no death, and those in him will never know the eternal death either.
@@CHSCRTE Humans die and get buried. What's the issue there?
You guys are my favorite. I always laugh out loud when al fadi is trying to explain himself and Jay isn't having it 😅 🤣. I love your work and your ministry. I share it with my "Muslim" friends. 🤙
The name HAJ/HAG (pilgrimage) is derived from the name HAJARA/HAGAR... Due to the sacrifice of a mother(Hagar) and child(Ishmael) in the wilderness of PARAN... The meaning of the name Ishmael is "God Hearkened"... It means God Hearkened.... Yes, God of Abraham Hearkened the sacrifice of the mother and child... Source of the name reflect the truth... Oh you poor Jay... Feel sorry for your poor knowledge of the scripture...
Excellent work, can't wait for the next episode
Ishmael is depicted as a little baby in Islam but the bible says that the reason Hagar and Ishmael got kicked out of the house was because Ishmael was making fun of his much younger half-brother, Isaac. Ishmael, according to Genesis, was in his teens - hardly a little baby.
Yes, but a baby leans better for victimization. Abraham was wrong to kick them out.
@@dragonmartijn - Be that as it may, Ishmael was a kid in his teens. How proper it was is another issue.
Go and read Genesis again. Stop speaking nonsense
@@voiceofone3641 - No, you read Genesis:
Gen 17:24-25 - And Abraham was ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. 25 And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin.
Isaac wasn't born until the following year.
Gen. 17:21 (three verses earlier) - But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
Genesis 21:1-5 - And the Lord visited Sarah as he had said, and the Lord did unto Sarah as he had spoken. 2 For Sarah conceived, and bare Abraham a son in his old age, at the set time of which God had spoken to him. 3 And Abraham called the name of his son that was born unto him, whom Sarah bare to him, Isaac. 4 And Abraham circumcised his son Isaac being eight days old, as God had commanded him. 5 And Abraham was an hundred years old, when his son Isaac was born unto him.
Prosecution rests, your honor.
When I read this hadith:
"Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Allah has ninety-nine Names, one-hundred less one; and he who memorized them all by heart will enter Paradise." To count something means to know it by heart." (Sahih Bukhari 98, 7481)
I am reminded of this verse in the Torah:
"And now, O Israel, what does the Lord, your God, demand of you? Only to fear the Lord, your God, to walk in all His ways and to love Him, and to worship the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul," (Deuteronomy 10:12)
The word for what (mah) can alternatively be read mei'ah (one hundred), an indication that the means of achieving fear of God is by reciting one hundred blessings each day (Menochos 43b) Rabbi Jacob ben Asher (the Tur) explains that King David (pbuh), based on this teaching, instituted the practice of reciting God's name in 100 blessings per day.
History, research, archeology, philology revelations have finally caught up with Islam. They couldn’t get away with it forever
According to Christian Prince, the Kaaba was a Hindu tradition who also has black stone.
Hi friend what Christian Prince said is not really true. Hindus do prey to idols coz there is a reason . For Hindus they don't believe that all their sin will be forgiven just by prey or by doing any rituals . According to Vedas of Hindus u have to face what bad ever u do in hell and by doing good deeds to others u will be placed in heaven.
@@surenthiren8663 ,
Learn again.
@@peacebe2u480 what to learn can u teach me ???
Thank you for a great informative video again. Bless you both.
Which bible do real Christians read there's many different bibles with missing verses and added verses
@@generaljg4373 Taqiyya 🤣😂
@@generaljg4373 ,
Move on dude. Prophet youtube is better than mister mo mo
Many thanks for this, which I shall forward in a timely way to UK news outlets for the June Hajj this year. Perhaps the matter has been mentioned elsewhere but rather than "Peter" Ellis, it was Paul Ellis.
Hindsight is 20-20 and the story lines written by Islamic authors seem to be jumping the gun all over the place. This video is another reason why Shaykh Dr. Yasir Qadhi use of the words, "holes in the narrative" seems rather appropriate.
Appreciate your teaching, great insight help us understand this faith from Canada.
I’ve been speculating that the sakhra = the Acra = Gabbatha. It all makes the history of the Temple Mount come together. Maybe Sapha = Sakhra and Marwa = Morhia too?
Thanks brothers, God bless you!!!
Thanks for putting The Colonel back on. God bless you brother.
Josephus mentions Mt. Scopus; however, the mount called Scopus today was only named such at the term of the 20th century for a fundraising campaign for Hebrew University. They don't actually know where Scopus is for certain.
Yes, Hajj is most likely the Arabic equivalent of 'chag' in Hebrew. It seems to originally define a religious festal offering / festival that needed to be performed in the presence of God. This is thus only applied to three of the appointed times given to Israel (Unleavened Bread, Weeks & Tabernacles) that were kept in Jerusalem. I'm glad that the cube - Holy of Holies connection was made. Also, before the establishment of Jerusalem, Israel would gather at 'gilgal' a word pointing to encircling processions.
During early Roman rule, heathen Arabs would already come from afar to pay homage to the sun god Ilah al Jabal which was Latinized by the Romans into Elagabalus, and referred to by the Greeks as Heliogabalos. This Arab Sun god was worshiped in Emesa, Syria (now called Homs) in the form of a black rock, probably a meteor that had fallen from the heavens. The young Marcus Antoninus who inherited the throne of the Roman emperors in AD 218 was so devoted to the adoration of this stone that he took the name of the god, Elagabalus, and brought the black rock back to Rome where it was worshiped as Sol Invictus, the Unconquered Sun. However, the gay young emperor was an embarrassment for various reasons, and the Roman Senate soon arranged for his execution, after which the black rock was returned to its original home in Emesa. I have been unable to discover what happened to the sacred black rock of the Arabs after it was returned to Emesa/Homs, but in the early Islamic period a black rock shows up a little farther south in Petra, the trading center, where it too is a focus of pilgrimages by the Arabs. Later the black rock of Petra will be carted south to Mecca during an intra-Islamic war where it remains an object of veneration by pilgrims to this day. Is the black of Emesa/Homs and the black rock of Petra which was later moved to Mecca the same black rock? Did the black rock of Allah begin its career as the black rock of Ilah al Jabal?
Yes, arabs were idol worshippers. After accepting islam, they worship and submit the will of allah; non-else but allah. The kaabah is the direction towards which the muslim face during the 5 times daily prayers (and all other optional prayers). Muslims do not worship the kaabah.
The muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone.
Yes, all the previous prophet perform the haj; including abraham, ishmael, isaac, mosess (and even jesus, in his second coming), as ordained by allah.So, there bound to be some similarities in the rituals.
this video implies that Islam is not an original religion and that its practices and beliefs are borrowed from Judaism.
@@betocastro8910 I agree that Islam is mostly modeled on Judaism, yet the Jews never venerated a black rock.
@@sethsuleiman4419 The ancient writings, biblical and non biblical, say nothing about Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Moses or Jesus kissing a black rock. However, pagan Arabs did worship a black rock. I understand that Muslims no longer worship their black rock as a deity, but they do venerate it, yet appear to have forgotten the origins of this custom, perhaps deliberately forgotten.
@@michaels4255 I repeat, "muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love, reverence and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone nor they ever had". Ask any muslim in china, japan, korea right across to europe and america; you will be told the same thing.
God bless your works
Didn't the sabeans also spinned around their idols 7 times?
Wonderful teaching bro.blessings
The Christian messiah is Santa claus
@@generaljg4373 I pray for you people find the truth, turn away from the false prophet.
Could you share with us .. the sources 😃 Merci
Great: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
Number 7 appears anywhere in ancient cultures. I can't recall the book I read many years ago, but it said that the number 7 refers to the 7 moving 'bodies' in our sky: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.
true, hence 7 is the digit of the heaven.
7 times Thawaf
7 times Sa'ee : Safa - Marwa
When muslims ask "can god be a baby?!" Ask them can those two small rock you run to to do Sawaff be mountain?!? XD
Copied from the Jews while the Jews do not have any kind of hajj. Ha ha ha!
Yes, arabs were idol worshippers. After accepting islam, they worship and submit the will of allah; non-else but allah. The kaabah is the direction towards which the muslim face during the 5 times daily prayers (and all other optional prayers). Muslims do not worship the kaabah.
The muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone.
Yes, all the previous prophet perform the haj; including abraham, ishmael, isaac, mosess (and even jesus, in his second coming), as ordained by allah.So, there bound to be some similarities in the rituals.
Can a rock be a mountain vs can God be God and then become un-Godly?
Christian's believe God was born... yea I tried to tell them their religion is silly god doesn't become a baby 😒
@@nunya54 Did God appear before Moses as fire (burning bush)? How is it that your god can be a burning bush but not a man? Some strange limitation or weakness?
Another great video!!
Very good knowledge ☺️
Which church do Al Fadi attend?
Which church do Jay Smith, Christian prince, David Wood Sam shamoun and Karode attend?
They are not Christians. They are actors.
Alex,
Who cares? Unless you have pre-meditated malice towards them. Ef bee i need to be informed???
You don't get it at all, this persons are role models , they defend the gospel and Christianity and I think after the apostles, they are the next that you wish to follow up. So it's not bad when one ask the church they attend? One will want to go to same church too.
Paul said be my follower as I follow Christ.
So to follow this ones is still good.
@@alonzoharris9049 🤣 😆 😂. But Muhammad is the best actor in a story in Quran. A Loverboy with many wives!
Very informative video
We should remember that prophet Muhammad pbuh was not only our prophet but the one foretold by the Jews. Islam is a continuation of Judaism. Abraham is the founder of our religion.
Welcome Al Fadi and J. Smith.
Wasn't the Hadj performed in Petra, where Muhammad came from?
Islam is pagan why are Muslims keep telling us Allah is god of the Bible .
PEACEKEEPERS WILL COME AND START A DISPUTE🤗
I think just because imams have told them that and they believe it. I’ve seen moslem posts where they are very aware allah’s a different god from YHVH, and also those who in error think allah’s the same.
Allah is God of bible.
Aullah is god of quran
Allah is God of heaven
Aullah is god of this earth.
Setan is god of adam and awa.
@@genjor6630 The god allah is not the Judeo-Christian YHVH God of the Bible; he is the crescent moon god of muhammad’s Quryash tribe. There is no record of any new monotheistic god being introduced to the Arabs as they were all already familiar with allah. All muhammad did was to eradicate the lesser gods and goddesses of the Arabic pantheon of gods and proclaim allah the largest. The true Elohim Creator God YHVH and the god allah speak with completely different voices, have different sets of moral code and law by which their followers are to live, and only YHVH has reached down and made a clear way of salvation. The god allah hates YHVH and His children and mandates that his people destroy both. On no planet are these the same deity.
Copied from the Jews while the Jews do not have any kind of hajj. Ha ha ha!
Sounds a bit like a syncretistic fusion of Petra _and_ Jerusalem. Dan Gibson still seems to be at least half right.
could i have more information on these the mountains plz
Islam continues to evolve and the legends enhanced.
It's almost like God's pattern never changes 😱
"This is] the established way of Allāh which has occurred before. And never will you find in the way of Allāh any change." 48:23
Tq brother...we are well aware of that..even their prayer also similar to the Samaritan.
Christian's pray to the Pope and bowdown to him, muslims pray to God
@@generaljg4373 Muzlims go to kabba to kiss the filthy black stone & to inhale the smelly piss and poo of great warrior AbuTahir Al-Jannabi who pissed and poo on it for 21 years. Muzlim's ola🦉could not do anything but thanked the great warrior AbuTahir Al-Jannabi for his heroic act👍
What make you think Christian pray to the Pope. That's the problem with all the Abdools.. Allah is moon God who has no spirit, 2 hands on his right, one leg and has shin. Its written in your Quran. Do you really know your book?
@@generaljg4373 Don't know out of what phonebook you got your source moonworshipper. Don't be ignorant and actually read the quran, you'll find Jesus not Issa according to islam .
@@generaljg4373 Why is it Muslims think they know Christian’s better than themselves?! Why do Muslims love to Justify their BS will false comparisons🤔 please tell me because no Christian prays to the pope and no True Christian even acknowledges the pope as a man of God so please explain yourself! You just make things up to try validate your own foolishness yet still choose to stay in that cult called Islam when you are having to lie to justify it 🤦🏼♀️🤣🤣🤣🤡
I put into question the statement that after 70 AD the Jews were driven into diaspora.The majority of Jews in 70 AD were already living and working through out the Roman world.The temple was destroyed in 70 and after Jewish worship was no longer Temple based.In 135 AD there was another Jewish revolt ,so therefore it was obvious Jews were present in Palistine.
We like to attend Br Al Fadi channel and also br Ahmadexmuslim channel,
Very helpful and truthfull.
Copied from the Jews while the Jews do not have any kind of hajj. Ha ha ha!
Ahmad mentioned in his session with Hussein Mashni that they’ve had discussions, so we might see them together in a session. I hope that happens soon!
Isn't it funny that the cross religion missionaries always talk about Islam yet people leaving christianity to join Islam
@@generaljg4373 nope troll.
The fastest growing religion by conversion is christianity
Fastest by birth is Islam
I have repeated this issue with Muslims many time that majority of rituals in Islam is purely from Judaism but the Muslims doesn't accept it. To me, Islam is connected to Judaism, nothing more and nothing less.
So which is the next in the series?
Is this where we get the saying "If you can't take Mohammed to the mountain, take the mountain to Mohammed"?
The Quran should be sold in the 'Fiction' section of book stores.
How so when no mistakes have been found in it?
@@nunya54 You're funny. It was Allah that invented abrogations for his eternal book. That is your god saying one thing, then changing his mind. I have a list of 100+ errors in the Quran, like, heavens or Earth? Which was created first? First earth and then heaven [2:29], heaven and after that earth [79:27-30].
@@ishtarlew598 You think God changes his mind? So all the scriptures are fictional then since abrogation is in all of them?
@@nunya54 “Whenever I abrogate any verse or cause it to be forgotten, I bring one better than it, or similar to it, don’t you know that God is able to do all things?”
- The Quran, 2:106
So why didn't your Allah say the correct or superior verse the first time if he is a true god?
@@ishtarlew598 Do you believe God is able to do all things and is aware of all things in all times?
True. That's what my Arab friend and her parents told me when I was age 10 back in year 1986.
Was the Ka aba first located in Petra and then moved to Mecca during the second Islamic civil war? Did Qutham (Muhammed) live in Petra and not Mecca?
So much of exposure for Islam
God saved you by his grace when you believed. It is a gift from God. Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it. Ephesians 2:8-9. This is how Satan has decived Christianity. You don't have to do good works to please God. You are already going to heaven.
In the Muslim view of Islam as a continuity of old Jewish and Christian tradition, "copied" is not the right word or at least, it doesn't make any sense. Same rituals and steps in the case of Hajj, just as the black phylacteries still in use among the Jews, may well be regarded as simple evidence of the same tradition, starting from Abraham and continuing through the biblical Prophets until Muhammad (p.b.u.h.). After all, Muslims have always known that Hajj existed since centuries even among the pre-Islamic pagan Arabs, that claimed to have inherited it from Abraham and his son Ismael. All this does not constitute a "copy", but a conscious continuity of the same revelation.
Dr. Jay I think you're getting it wrong. I've been following this series for quite some time and it seems rather that first century Islam was fabricated by Jews. Principally by Umar who coincidentally is also one of the earliest people to be referred to as MHMD (The Praise One)
Did you Find, Frère Bruno Eymard-Bonnet ?
But it's difficult learn about trinity
Jesus is the way the truth and the life ❤❤❤
Ha ha ha. It's ALL FICTION . Judaism/Christianity/and Islam. Get used to it.
Jesus is god ❤
Watch 'Return to Mecca'. Jewish teacher Avi Lipkin proves Moses and Aaron did the Hajj pilgrimage at the Kaaba
@mysotiras 018 Muslims don't need proof from Avi Lipkin or any other person. They have God's true words.
Hajj for Jews is for Yahweh God, while Hajj for Muslims is a form of worship to Allah SWT the black stone, right?
Hajj for jews is worshipping saturn/satan same as for Muslims. They are the synagogue of satan (Rev 2:9 & 3:9). The 666 star is saturn/satan worship (Amos 5:26 & Acts 7:43), it has nothing to do with David, they are descended from Cain and Edom, not Jacob/Israel (Matt 23). They are liars and antichrists (1 John 2:22-23) because they don't believe Jesus is the Christ. At least Muslims believe Jesus is the Christ (Messiah), the synagogue of satan doesn't even believe that.
@@Gideon_Judges6
Hajj ritual, prayer to the black stone (Alloh SWT) 👇
MUSLIM READ THIS PRAYER IN FRONT OF THE ASWAD STONE
Labbaik alaahumma labbaika Labbaika laa Syarikalaka labaik Innal hamda wan nimata laka walmulk Laa Syaariika laka 3 times.
It means:
I fulfill Your call O Allah, I fulfill Your call, there is no partner for You. I fulfill Your call. Verily, all praise and favors and kingdom are only for You, you have no partners.
(From afar Muslims pray 5x/day towards the black stone of the Hajar Aswad at the Kaaba of Mecca)
@@secondone5870 Yes, arabs were idol worshippers. After accepting islam, they worship and submit the will of allah; non-else but allah. The kaabah is the direction towards which the muslim face during the 5 times daily prayers (and all other optional prayers). Muslims do not worship the kaabah.
The muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone.
Yes, all the previous prophet perform the haj; including abraham, ishmael, isaac, mosess (and even jesus, in his second coming), as ordained by allah.So, there bound to be some similarities in the rituals.
@@sethsuleiman4419
Muslim, always remember, Yahwe the God of Abraham, Ishak and Jacob is very different with ALLOH SWT the God of Islam. Black stone is the right hand of ALLOH SWT. Muslim worship black stone Hajar Aswad clearly!
@@secondone5870 (1). "Black stone is the right hand of ALLOH SWT. Muslim worship black stone Hajar Aswad clearly!". That is what you firmly say.
But, muslim firmly say, "The muslim kiss the black stone, just to follow what the prophet muhammad pbuh did; out of love and obedience to him. Muslims do not worship the black stone".
(2). "Yahwe the God of Abraham, Ishak and Jacob". That is what you say.
But, muslim firmly say, "Allah is the god of adam, noah, abraham, ishmael, isaac, david, solomon, moses, jesus and muhammad pbuh".
Jay should really allow Fadi to give his input bit more. You guys are butting heads over trivial things because of it and it disrupts the flow of the video. We love you Jay but give Fadi some love too, it doesn't need to follow your flow perfectly, allow both of you to input your knowledge into the conversation.
Love this. Thank you
And on that day, the seventh day of Sukkot, they would circle the altar seven times.
(Mishnah Sukkah 4:5)
Debate a Muslim scholar on stream or in person.
Dr. Jay when Islam conquers a piece land don't they believe it is theirs forever.If this is correct then,was the Dome of the Rock built to keep the Temple from ever being rebuilt?
Your guys are great 👍. I am very pleased to learn more. Its unfolding the truths about Muslims. More or less the entire statuscor is point back to the time of Ismail who is the father of the islamic world. They are try to claim blessings promise to Issac but God keeps His promises all throughout the generation
God bless CIRA chanel.n dr Jay Smith. I hope many moslems will waking up from delusional heaven. Yeshua love us all ❤️ from Jakarta, Indonesia.
Indonesia Muslim country alhamdulilah
@@generaljg4373 Poor Indonesians are being subjected to paganism. I pity them.
God bless Indonesia ❤️
@@generaljg4373 ,
Alhamdullilah my arse. You know shiiit about Republic of Indonesia, unlike islamic nations
@@generaljg4373 yes it is but nearly 2millions moslem convert to Christian every year. It is written in a Holy Bible in the end of time, ppl will see the Thruth even they can't say it openly coz in moslem the kill of ppl who convert to others faith is halal. How can it be? Torah forbid every kind of murders so why moslems still do it this sin? Hypocrites
Good job
Really appreciate. 👍
Good job sir👍
I always wonder why Muslims celebrate the Haj rituals when the rituals are closer to the practise of the Jews.
The Kaaba was rebuilt by Ibrahim and his 1st born son, Ismail with Hajar the Egyptian. The sacrifice of the 1st born son, Ismail seen in a dream by the patriarch Ibrahim.
I think Petra was just another site of worship of Yahweh (or one of his brothers). We know there were many worship sites before the first temple. One still exists and is used today, Mount Gerizim. I think Petra is another.
Christian's worship three gods not the God of abraham, according to both Judaism and Islam the christian religion is paganism
When the Jews were freed from their Babylonian captivity (538 BCE), the Samaritans were already well-settled around Mount Gerizim. One of their structures there is actually called Kaaba (even today), and was used for circumambulation.
The freed Jews were settled at Hebron. So they established their holy site at Mt Hebron. I believe it was destroyed by the rulers with the the help of Samaritans who did not want competition for their pilgrimage site. The Jewish temple moved to Petra. The structure would have been called Mukaab (shortened later to Makkah).
Around 200 BCE, Judas Maccabeus ("the Mukaab-ite") from Petra rebelled against the rulers, and managed to take control of the Greek Temple Mount, the location of the Temple for Zeus. The site became the Kaaba for the Jews.
Post 70 CE, the brothers of Jesus (the Nazarenes) reestablished the Petra Kaaba when the Temple Mount went back to the Zeus-worshippers.
The Nazarene Kaaba remained active at Petra until 637 CE when 'Umar ibn al-Khattab of the Nazarenes reestablished the (Nazarene/Jewish) Kaaba on the Temple Mount.
When Abbasids became the rulers, the Kaaba would have been shifted to Petra (c. 760 CE), and then again to the newly setup Saudi Makkah (c. 800 CE).
@@vicmath1005 Much of what you said is provably incorrect, but the insight about the Samaritans is useful. I still think that Islam is the combination of first-temple Judaism and Christianity. Excluded parts of Judaism and Christianity fled into the desert.This resulted from the existing Semitic beliefs + the first-temple refugees + non-Pauline refugees all mixing up into what we call Islam.
and still they have the audacity to call Jews low as pigs.
These are mere hypothesis from enemies of Islam. Islam is the truth and it will continue to grow 🪴 no matter how the enemies might hate it.
You mean Al Fadi used history and the truth. Truth is not hate. Muslims are the ones that hate. Can you make decisions for yourself or are you told what to think.
@@georgeo785 Oh come on George, l have watched and listened to Jay Smith, Al Fadi, David Wood, Christian prince, Sam shamoun, Robert Spencer and a host of others. They hated Muhammad and Islam. Show me one Muslim who hated Jesus Christ???
Walk away from hopeless future. Gtd go to hell abode according to your book.
This is fun! The copy/paste, change (and add pathological "holy hate, deception and love of death") must have started with the sense of inferiority of not having a Reader... a book and with envy of the "People of the Reader." Eventually, someone must have taken the ancient Hebrew Reader, Mikrah, and created an Arabic Reader, Kor'an (in both Semitic languages KRA is the root of verb, to read). Then came the nation building attempt. And so the Hebrew Umah of Benei Israel (children of Israel) which turned into Umah Islamiyya and, much later, into Umah Arabiyya. And the best is the Hebrew Beit haMikdash (Jewish Temple) slightly morphing into in Arabic into, Beit alMakdes (the name of the Kor'an for Jerusalem). Sadly, even controlling 99.75% of the Arab-Jewish land pie (and Arabizing, Islamizing, enslaving and oppressing outside the Arab-Jewish land pie millions of non Arabs) is not enough to cure that deficit envy and hate ad psychiatrist Wafa Sultan describes her own experience and insight in Syria.
The Hajj - We don't understand where is the similarity between Islam and Judaism. Hajj is performed with sacrifice of animals. Do the Judaism have the same practice ??
And we are not to bow or worship stones.
No one is bowing to or worshipping the stone.
@@nunya54 ,
Yea u do. Self denial is pointless.
Just to add, some hajj tradition ions was copied from Hinduism as SP demonstrated in one of his videos.
Muhammad said he received messages from Jibril in the cave was also plagiarised from how John wrote the book of revelations in Bible also written in cave.
And who did the Talmudists copy their holy books from? How about the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Egyptians, and especially, the Persians. I'm not talking about "Biblical" history, instead I focus on archeology.
Josephus talked about « Arabs » ?!?
nothing in Islam was copied or created it is actually corrected or renewed we see similarities because everithing is coming from same Creator ,if you guys don't know this your discussion is pointless.
I love your discussions and follow you. Thank you very much.
Is hajj in the quran?
Yes it is
All of Islam was borrowed.
Good work Jay and Alfadi ------ False prophets shall come in the latter day's as prophesied..In scriptures there is NO illiterate prophet, yet islams perfect example could not read or write? SIN cannot claim before moo=ham=mad because it started with the obvious false prophet....Temple mount is not where the arabs have their dome...Jesus said NO stone shall be left upon one another. So where does the western or wailing wall come from because its not from the temple.
Quran says Christians, Jews, Muslims and the Sabians worship the same God. = So your whole argument just evaporated. The same stories should naturally align .
ISLAM dies without lies
It's called cultural appropriation.
I thought the Hajj was copied from the Nabateans of Petra.
It is not copied. It is the same message. So it is the same.
You asked about these Ishmaelites that you said were not idol worshippers and your rabbi told you that they were idol worshipers and the stones they cast them out
In their teraphim they belong to Markulis (probably refers to the Dolmen) …Truly, the Ishmaelites had earlier in those places three types of idol worship [Baal]Peor and Markulis and Chemosh, and they themselves admit these things today and call them names in the Arabic language.. And Markulis is worshipped through throwing stones .. and these things are all explained and known to us before the religion of the Ishmaelites took hold. But the Ishmaelites today say... it is that the stones we throw them into the face of Satan and throw them in order to confuse him.And others of their scholars have a reason and say idols were there and we stone the place they once stood standing , meaning we don’t believe in the demigods that once stood here , and by way of blasphemy to them, I cursed them, and others say that this is the custom , the crux of the matter is , although its origin was idolatrous there is no person that throws the stones or prostrates at that place or any of the other things that are done there for the sake of idolatry .
but their hearts are devoted to heaven."
Maimonides response to Obadiah the convert
Response 448
islam copied from jews, christians, zoroasters, etc etc
"AND WHEN ISSA/YESHUA, THE SON OF MARY, SAID, "O CHILDREN OF ISRAEL,
INDEED I AM THE MESSENGER OF
GOD to you confirming what came before me of the TORAH and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, WHOSE NAME IS AHMAD." But when he came to them with CLEAR EVIDENCE,
they said, "This is OBVIOUS MAGIC/LIE""
(As-Saff 61: Verse 06)
AHMAD FROM YATHRIB
NOT FROM MECCA...
"And when a faction of THEM SAID, "O PEOPLE OF YATHRIB, there is no stability for you [here], so return [home]." And a party of them asked permission of THE PROPHET, SAYING, "Indeed, OUR HOUSES ARE UNPROTECTED," while they were not exposed. THEY DID NOT INTEND EXCEPT TO FLEE."
(Al-Ahzaab 33: Verse 13)
AND THE CITY OF YATHRIB WAS
CLOSE TO THE MOUNT SINAI.....
"AND A TREE ISSUING FROM MOUNT SINAI which PRODUCES OIL AND FOOD
FOR THOSE WHO EAT."
(Al-Muminoon 23: Verse 20)
"And indeed, for you in LIVESTOCK
IS A LESSON. WE GIVE YOU DRINK
FROM THAT WHICH IS IN THEIR BELLIES, AND FOR YOU IN THEM ARE NUMEROUS BENEFITS, AND FROM THEM YOU EAT."
(Al-Muminoon 23: Verse 21)
"BY THE FIG AND THE OLIVE"
AND MOUNT SINAI"
(At-Tin 95: Verse 01-02)
"And We gave Moses the Scripture, after We had destroyed the former generations, as enlightenment for the people and guidance and mercy that they might be reminded."
(Al-Qasas 28: Verse 43)
"And YOU (AHMAD) WERE NOT
ON THE WESTERN SIDE [of the mount] WHEN WE REVEALED TO MOSES
THE COMMAND, AND YOU WERE
NOT AMONG THE WITNESSES."
(Al-Qasas 28: Verse 44)
YATHRIB WAS UNDER
THE ROMAN EMPIRE
PLUS THEY WERE USING
ROMAN COINS.
غُلِبَتِ الرُّوْمُ
"THE ROMAN HAVE BEEN DEFEATED"
"IN THE NEAREST LAND. BUT THEY,
AFTER THEIR DEFEAT, WILL
OVERCOME."
(Ar-Room 30: Verse 02-03)
"AND AMONG THE PEOPLE OF
THE SCRIPTURE IS HE WHO, if you
entrust him with a great amount
he will return it to you. And among
them is he who, if you entrust
him with A DINARIUS/SILVER COIN,
he will not return it to you unless
you are constantly standing
over him . That is because they say,
There is no blame upon us
concerning the unlearned."
And they speak untruth about
GOD while they know [it]."
(Aal-i-Imraan 03: Verse 75)
THEREFORE AHMAD AND
MUHAMMAD IS NOT THE
SAME PERSON.
MUHAMMAD BORN AND RAISED
IN MECCA. THE CITY OF MECCA
IS NOT EVEN ONCE MENTION
IN THE QUR'AN.
MECCA WAS A NON
EXISTENCE CITY.
AHMAD BORN AND RAISED IN
YATHRIB.