Thanks dude. I’m loving the whole Gretsch filtertron vibe, especially in a Jet/LP style guitar but I had been wondering a lot about how they cope with higher gain and when playing in a band either live or at rehearsal. This was a really helpful video for those questions!
Interesting video, Jimmy Page often used a Telecaster in the studio, but on stage he needed the Les Paul. What I do in those cases is use a compressor before the distortion so you reduce the dynamic range and the sound is more forceful. Greetings
Thank you so much for this! I play in a emo/pop punk band and it seems like every filtertron demo on TH-cam is just clean/ambient stuff. Super helpful to hear them in the context I'd use them in. I have a Jaguar with a standard humbucker but it's too muddy/woofy for my taste, I'm torn between filtertrons and wide range humbuckers; do you have a recommendation between those two? I mostly play articulated math rock stuff paired with fast chuggy palm muted riffs and drop tuned rhythm parts
Hey man super cool! For articulate tone a lot of it is the relationship between both your guitar and your amp. Either your amp is too dark/ muddy or the pickup is, maybe even a combination of both. Seymour Duncas Phat Cat P90's are great for clarity, and that paired with a good amp will definitely do the job for you! Also with respect to gain, less is more! Better to boost the amp volume instead and play a bit harder first before adding gain, this will preserve the clarity of your tone much better. Check out my band Incase We Crash on Tik Tok, we've got a few tone tips on there for ya!
I've been a tele guy since high school. Picked up a Gretsch Jet the other day while shopping for a butterscotch tele... fell in love and bought it. I can get that spank yet pull off a great Angus sound. At 51, I'm a blues and classic rock guy. It pulls of some grunge, too. Where it shines is in semi-clean blues. I can absolutely nail BB King, yet still grab a single coil tone. They changed my preference in guitars.
No offense intended, but I don't know how you can evaluate a pickup by playing it with the gain on 11. All I hear is clipping. But to be fair, I'm not into that head-banger thing.
This was pretty helpful actually, I'm looking for a cheap guitar to tune low and use for doom/psychadelic sounds. Despite having a reputation for "Muddy" sounds, a lot of the big stoner guys actually used more pafy/vintagey brighter voiced HBs like you describe(Josh Homme used Dimarzio Super 2s for example) and of course Tomi Iommi used P90s. I love the sound of a heavily distorted filtertron since I'm a bit fan of those glassy gnarly fuzzy tones, but you bring up some good points, esp. with how the chugs sound. I feel like if I am to get a Filtertron guitar i probably wouldn't use it for that specifically, and right now a fair amount of that is probably covered by my single coil guitars.
Ive had the stock filtertrons that came in My Tennessee rose, found them to be very muddy sounding, and the tv jones classics to have a very similar sound only slightly improving, lacking the clarity and punch I found With the CLASSIC PLUS Pickups which had much broader, richer tonality, more color, perfect blend of the treble, mids & bass, it really shimmers. Ive had them put im 5 of my guitars over the years, they are the most verstile & suitable for almost any genre of music, ive had strats, les pauls & Gretsch mostly, throughout the last 25 years. These pickups give you the best of both worlds, the singlr coil strat & humbucker Les paul
Knew as soon as you started playing that you were in a pop punk band 😆 replaced the 57 Classic Plus in my Gibson Midtown with a TV Jones Power’tron Plus and definitely dig it more. What amp are you running through?
You should try TV Jones Powertrons or a Powertron Plus in the bridge. It's basically a Classic but much richer and higher output and more attack. It sounds like if DiMarzio made a filtertron lol
Where did you get the pickup ring.plastic...how did you make it fit? Had to. Buy the diff pickup ring? ..im wanting to add a filtertron and a p90 in my fake gibson lp.. but i want them to fit somehow with new rings..and no routing etc..
I was referencing more modern high gain, obviously filtertrons can hand some gain and yield a great sound, but when it comes to fast aggressive palm mutes and drop tunings etc, they're probably not a first choice. Good criticism to address though, thank you!
He literally says "if you have a classic rock sound you'll be fine, you'll sound great live'. Your comment doesn't deserve a polite reply you sound like a moron
I hear the magnet is stronger but the impedance is lower than a traditional humbucker so they're more bright and dynamic great for recording but I have to agree you don't want more dynamics than what you used to for a live situation
I’ve been using Ernie ball beefy slinky’s (11-54) for about 4 years now. I definitely think they help with palm mutes and chugging, and for me they stay in tune better because I play pretty hard. Makes soloing and leads harder tho
Cool, yea i also use 11-54s and thats why i want a spanky pickup. Ive been using a humbucker wound to 9.5k and i dig it but the brighter the better. I think you kind of went over this in the video but to make sure i understand; do the filtertrons have less volume when running through the same amp settings as a humbucker? Like are they quieter than humbuckers given the same amp settings?
Blue Lane Frontier for anything clean or lightly driven a compressor pedal would compliment a filtertron very well imo. With a high gain amp it naturally compresses the dynamics tho so wouldn't make much of a difference in that case
I believe the new ones are cool splittable. for hard rock tones it partially depends on the guitar, these in a Les Paul will be much more suitable for that, however palm mutes are still not as beefy and full in the lower mids as a typical humbucker. They sound great for power chords and lead guitar though
He's talking about what he describes as a "modern" sound, which I interpret as high gain, heavy distortion, palm muted power chords. That's far from what Malcolm did: big, open chords with relatively minor distortion. Different applications.
Thanks dude. I’m loving the whole Gretsch filtertron vibe, especially in a Jet/LP style guitar but I had been wondering a lot about how they cope with higher gain and when playing in a band either live or at rehearsal. This was a really helpful video for those questions!
Interesting video, Jimmy Page often used a Telecaster in the studio, but on stage he needed the Les Paul. What I do in those cases is use a compressor before the distortion so you reduce the dynamic range and the sound is more forceful. Greetings
Thank you so much for this! I play in a emo/pop punk band and it seems like every filtertron demo on TH-cam is just clean/ambient stuff. Super helpful to hear them in the context I'd use them in. I have a Jaguar with a standard humbucker but it's too muddy/woofy for my taste, I'm torn between filtertrons and wide range humbuckers; do you have a recommendation between those two? I mostly play articulated math rock stuff paired with fast chuggy palm muted riffs and drop tuned rhythm parts
Hey man super cool! For articulate tone a lot of it is the relationship between both your guitar and your amp. Either your amp is too dark/ muddy or the pickup is, maybe even a combination of both. Seymour Duncas Phat Cat P90's are great for clarity, and that paired with a good amp will definitely do the job for you! Also with respect to gain, less is more! Better to boost the amp volume instead and play a bit harder first before adding gain, this will preserve the clarity of your tone much better. Check out my band Incase We Crash on Tik Tok, we've got a few tone tips on there for ya!
I've been a tele guy since high school. Picked up a Gretsch Jet the other day while shopping for a butterscotch tele... fell in love and bought it. I can get that spank yet pull off a great Angus sound.
At 51, I'm a blues and classic rock guy. It pulls of some grunge, too. Where it shines is in semi-clean blues. I can absolutely nail BB King, yet still grab a single coil tone.
They changed my preference in guitars.
No offense intended, but I don't know how you can evaluate a pickup by playing it with the gain on 11. All I hear is clipping. But to be fair, I'm not into that head-banger thing.
Well everybody else likes it
This was pretty helpful actually, I'm looking for a cheap guitar to tune low and use for doom/psychadelic sounds. Despite having a reputation for "Muddy" sounds, a lot of the big stoner guys actually used more pafy/vintagey brighter voiced HBs like you describe(Josh Homme used Dimarzio Super 2s for example) and of course Tomi Iommi used P90s. I love the sound of a heavily distorted filtertron since I'm a bit fan of those glassy gnarly fuzzy tones, but you bring up some good points, esp. with how the chugs sound. I feel like if I am to get a Filtertron guitar i probably wouldn't use it for that specifically, and right now a fair amount of that is probably covered by my single coil guitars.
Ive had the stock filtertrons that came in My Tennessee rose, found them to be very muddy sounding, and the tv jones classics to have a very similar sound only slightly improving, lacking the clarity and punch I found With the CLASSIC PLUS Pickups which had much broader, richer tonality, more color, perfect blend of the treble, mids & bass, it really shimmers. Ive had them put im 5 of my guitars over the years, they are the most verstile & suitable for almost any genre of music, ive had strats, les pauls & Gretsch mostly, throughout the last 25 years. These pickups give you the best of both worlds, the singlr coil strat & humbucker Les paul
thanks for video. how are they for playin metal? trash or power.
Knew as soon as you started playing that you were in a pop punk band 😆 replaced the 57 Classic Plus in my Gibson Midtown with a TV Jones Power’tron Plus and definitely dig it more.
What amp are you running through?
Hey man! For this demo I was using amp sims, but I have another vid on my channel of it going through an Orange TH30!
Nice, man! I run through an Orange AD30 myself
What about the broadtrons like in the new g2222? Those guitars seem mad for the money I'm eyeing one off hard.
You should try TV Jones Powertrons or a Powertron Plus in the bridge. It's basically a Classic but much richer and higher output and more attack. It sounds like if DiMarzio made a filtertron lol
Where did you get the pickup ring.plastic...how did you make it fit? Had to. Buy the diff pickup ring? ..im wanting to add a filtertron and a p90 in my fake gibson lp.. but i want them to fit somehow with new rings..and no routing etc..
TV Jones has so nany 'Tron' pickups I wish they would come out with a Mega'tron pickup.
XD
Thanks. Very useful info
Good and useful video! What bridge pickup was in the gold Les Paul?
The stock 498T, still a great sounding pickup, classic LP tone!
@@simonaustin1136 Ok, yes it sounds great! Thanks.
How do you like that Starwood Tele neck pup? I put on in my Duo-Sonic and it's sweet.
They're good! nice and fat rhythm tones
Malcolm Young's career Fly's in the face of everything you said about playing Rock Loud Live w/Fillertron TV Jones Pickups.
I was referencing more modern high gain, obviously filtertrons can hand some gain and yield a great sound, but when it comes to fast aggressive palm mutes and drop tunings etc, they're probably not a first choice. Good criticism to address though, thank you!
He literally says "if you have a classic rock sound you'll be fine, you'll sound great live'. Your comment doesn't deserve a polite reply you sound like a moron
Interesting insight, but would the issue of the high gain get fixed with a compressor maybe?
Interesting great info ..!
Excellent advice
You look and sound exactly like Tim Skold. It's crazy
I hear the magnet is stronger but the impedance is lower than a traditional humbucker so they're more bright and dynamic great for recording but I have to agree you don't want more dynamics than what you used to for a live situation
Thaks
Got the super deluxe tele with the TV Jones love it.
Hey what size strings do you use in this video? And would heavier strings maybe help the palm muting chuggability?
I’ve been using Ernie ball beefy slinky’s (11-54) for about 4 years now. I definitely think they help with palm mutes and chugging, and for me they stay in tune better because I play pretty hard. Makes soloing and leads harder tho
Cool, yea i also use 11-54s and thats why i want a spanky pickup. Ive been using a humbucker wound to 9.5k and i dig it but the brighter the better. I think you kind of went over this in the video but to make sure i understand; do the filtertrons have less volume when running through the same amp settings as a humbucker? Like are they quieter than humbuckers given the same amp settings?
So what your saying is you should have got a duo jet to begin with?
You deserve more subs dude
thanks dude!! i'm working on it loool
Srsly- good stuff
Great video man
I like that black LP..what is is? Thanks for all your work. And that Filtertron has IT.
MrPiperian it's a 1999 Gibson Les Paul studio, I've been messing around and modding it for the last 2 years or so
You said you were going to play clean, then played some stuff covered in overdrive?
My bad, I was (and still am) a bit of a video amateur, didn't go back and fix that
Need one of these in my LP. Maybe compressor to even out dynamics for live modern tones?
Blue Lane Frontier for anything clean or lightly driven a compressor pedal would compliment a filtertron very well imo. With a high gain amp it naturally compresses the dynamics tho so wouldn't make much of a difference in that case
Are the Filtertrons good for Hard Rock? Are they coil splitable?
I believe the new ones are cool splittable. for hard rock tones it partially depends on the guitar, these in a Les Paul will be much more suitable for that, however palm mutes are still not as beefy and full in the lower mids as a typical humbucker. They sound great for power chords and lead guitar though
@@simonaustin1136 My guitar is an Epiphone Wildkat, semi hollowed body as Malcom Young's guitar jaja
So Filtertrones should work, thank you.
@RecluseAndHisGuitar And he was the king of rhythm guitar.
@RecluseAndHisGuitar He did specify he was talking about modern sound and application, I agree with Simon.
Nice-sounding distortion, I wonder what the pick up sound like.
Can't hear the pickup character when it's full on distortion.
Try the Power’Tron plus they’re suppose to be like 7.5k output
8.5k*
The tele sounds better to my ear
Ko fair enough! Everyone's different and there's a reason people (including myself) love Tele Tones :)
'Filtertrons do not work in stage environment.' Hm.. Malcolm disagreed.
He's talking about what he describes as a "modern" sound, which I interpret as high gain, heavy distortion, palm muted power chords. That's far from what Malcolm did: big, open chords with relatively minor distortion.
Different applications.
My thoughts about that gainy sound: 🤮