Crush the Fried Liver Like Magnus Carlsen (Polerio Defense)

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 157

  • @ChessBlueprints
    @ChessBlueprints  ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for watching everyone :D
    Let me know if you have a topic you'd like to see next!

  • @knight764
    @knight764 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    shoutout the the gigachad playing fried liver against magnus

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He did his best lol

    • @perkalov
      @perkalov 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tell me if you find him. This isn't Fried Liver. Fried Liver is the opening quickly mentioned where White sac's a Knight on f7.

  • @mstalcup
    @mstalcup หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That game is of huge theoretical significance and you presented it beautifully.

    • @user-ig8qd4tt7b
      @user-ig8qd4tt7b 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Noi theoretical significance whatsoever, just a casual blitz game between two very strong players.
      After 8.Bxd7+?! white already has to think about achieving equality, and this has been demonstrated in hundreds of games.

  • @DanLyndon
    @DanLyndon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I mean, Nf6 isn't baiting the Fried Liver, it's just a standard move top GMs like to play because it allows them to be more flexible with their Bishop placement and it avoids certain theory which is much more annoying to deal with than the Fried Liver.

  • @gregorywinters8891
    @gregorywinters8891 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Nice video except one small problem: This isn't the Fried Liver Attack. The Fried Liver Attack is predicated on Black's 5...Nxd5 whereby White launches the Attack with the sacrifice 6.Nxf7. If these two moves are not played, then there is no Fried Liver Attack, just the standard line of the Two Knights Defense.

    • @mstalcup
      @mstalcup หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True. Very often, the intent of the move Ng5 early is to enter the fried liver attack as soon as possible, so people often forget the final few moves that brings us officially into the fried liver attack.

    • @perkalov
      @perkalov 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mstalcup
      I play this a lot as white. My goal isn't Fried Liver. My intent is to give black a shit pawn structure with pawn down and sort out the issues with development and coordination later (I trade pawnstructure and a pawn for having shit development and problems coordinating).
      I'll play Fried Liver if forced to.
      95% of players (That plays Two Knights defense) avoid Fried Liver... So if that would be my intent Im up for being disapointed.

  • @whatsmylogin
    @whatsmylogin ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Good, clear explanations, thanks mate.

  • @dub-jscrub-j2762
    @dub-jscrub-j2762 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This isn’t the fried liver attack. The fried liver attack only happens after 5…Nxd5 6. Nxf7. For some reason people think that if you play Ng5 in any position it somehow becomes the fried liver attack. The name comes from the fact that the king is moving up the board, not after white’s king knight.

  • @jmichigan3282
    @jmichigan3282 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, this was a really nice video. He took some thing that everyone is familiar with, and then showed how Magnus handles it. Really interesting and you presented it in a way that I could understand. Thank you.

  • @Wava-ob5ng
    @Wava-ob5ng หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    your videos not only inform but also inspire!

  • @NuisanceMan
    @NuisanceMan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In my experience, you need a good grinder and some onions.

    • @xT..
      @xT.. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

  • @donhamilton3699
    @donhamilton3699 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is not the Fried Liver... 5...Nxd5 is the Fried Liver.

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks I didn't actually know that. I barely ever get that line in my games :(

    • @Knightmovesfirst
      @Knightmovesfirst 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He is probably saying fried liver because he is going for the fried liver set up, but black did not play into it. Instead black played this

  • @hmartinlb
    @hmartinlb 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:25 bishop does, in fact, not have to move. Backrank is still weak. Magnus missed this or didn't feel like playing the complications.

  • @abhishektodmal1914
    @abhishektodmal1914 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for sharing! Immensely helpful :) Wish you all the very best, man. :)

  • @classicsciencefictionhorro1665
    @classicsciencefictionhorro1665 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I plan on teaching Magnus the Traxler counterattack to the fried liver.

    • @user-ig8qd4tt7b
      @user-ig8qd4tt7b หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't bother, he already knows how white is winning.

    • @perkalov
      @perkalov 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-ig8qd4tt7b
      White isn't winning if Magnus plays black against classicsciencefictionhorror1665 :p

  • @Born.Toulouse
    @Born.Toulouse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is not the Fried Liver, but one way to play the 'Prussian Game', a pretty solid variation of the Italian Game.

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for letting me know. I've updated the description to make it more clear :)

    • @johnh5259
      @johnh5259 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ChessBlueprints You still have the words "Fried Liver" in the title, but this game is actually a Two Knights Defense, Italian Game: Normal Variation, Polerio. It's not a Fried Liver until and unless Black takes the pawn on d5 and White plays 6. Nxf7. If White opts for 6. d4 instead, that's the Lolli Attack.

    • @NuisanceMan
      @NuisanceMan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Solid? Perfectly good, maybe, but solid seems the wrong word.

  • @perkalov
    @perkalov 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well... that isn't fried liver, is it?
    I call it "Two Knights Defence main line after Ng5" but I seem to remember its proper name is Polerio Defense in Two Knights Defence.
    Fried Liver is the exact version shown with 4. -- Nxd5 5. Nxf7.
    There is several other ways to respond to Ng5. But the most common, by far, is Polerios Defense... At least on my level (1800 ish Elo).
    I play this as white fairly often. Also Fried Liver.

  • @user-ej7sr3ow8b
    @user-ej7sr3ow8b 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:25 Taking the b3 knight is really nonsense. White just voluntarily move a centralized knight to a bad square, it's not easy to get the knight into the game again. Also taking the knight will help white opens the a-file, and the a8 rook will be tied down defending it.simplr retreat the a4 knight to the c6 square and black will enjoy a very comfortable position

  • @alfa-psi
    @alfa-psi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice and informative, thanks.

  • @k4chnaa
    @k4chnaa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Still waiting for fried liver ...

  • @steve_etzel
    @steve_etzel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is just the Two Knights Defense, not the Fried Liver.

    • @michalrehacek3462
      @michalrehacek3462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What are you talking about?
      Fried liver is the white’s response (move deeper) to two knights defense.
      So the initial position with knight jumping to g5 is called the fried liver attack

    • @steve_etzel
      @steve_etzel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michalrehacek3462 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fried_Liver_Attack

    • @Platimuth
      @Platimuth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fried liver is a variation in Italian games, where black put both his knight on the sixth column and white decided to play Ng5

    • @steve_etzel
      @steve_etzel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Platimuth Not true. It's not a Fried Liver until Nxf7. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fried_Liver_Attack

    • @steve_etzel
      @steve_etzel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michalrehacek3462 Not true. It's not a Fried Liver until Nxf7. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fried_Liver_Attack

  • @tobiasf.1302
    @tobiasf.1302 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:48, "the only move", but what about bishop to c5, then if knight takes f7 pawn bishop to f2 check, if king takes the bishop the f6 knight takes the e4 pawn check, if the king goes back to e 1 the queen goes to h4 check, if he covers moving the g2 pawn to g3 then the knight takes it, if h2 takes the knight then you win material (the h1 rook) with a check, but lets say the king moves from e1 to e2 offering a queen trade after you toked the h1 rook instead of cover with the bishop, easy the knight from c6 goes to d4 check, the king must move and you win the queen.
    Now, if instead of cover the check with the g2 pawn, he moves his king to e2 its a forced check-mate in 3 moves, here are the options:
    1) Queen to f2 check, the king is forced to move to d3
    2) The knight from e4 moves to c5 check, king movers from d3 to c3, and queen to d4 check mate
    ......Another option is:
    3)The c6 knight moves to b4, the king can only take the e4 knight and then queen to f4 check-mate.
    Hope someone likes this little advice ;).

    • @user-ig8qd4tt7b
      @user-ig8qd4tt7b หลายเดือนก่อน

      4...Bc5 leads to a large advantage for white after 5.Bxf7+ or even 5.d4.
      Basically it is hoping for the lemon 5.Nxf7, which is analysed till the end (and to a draw).
      If Hope Chess is your thing, then feel free to play it.

    • @perkalov
      @perkalov 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @tobiasf.1302
      Traxler is only good against people who doesn't know it. a GM with 3k blitz rating knows it.
      At that level its not seen as an resonable option any more then a6 is.
      So... No, its not the only move but the only resonable move at GM level.

  • @niravapurv4578
    @niravapurv4578 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:58 Ba4? Thats a mistake in polerio defence. Does not look like you know the teory here but still a nice game rewiew. I understand its not advisable to enter the fried liver as black to people who dont study the lines there realy well. But i used to play fried liver as white. Now i stopped playing it as white and sometimes i have played it as black. I even played it over the board in classic game and i won that game. In freid liver white gives up a knight for a pawn and a exposed black king. And even the computer jumps forth and back in the lines. White realy has to know how to attack here if black knows about to handle it. Very risky i know. Easy for black to do a mistake. But it was realy funny to beat that guy. He took on f7 in the speed of a blitz game already showing he was thinking that he was already winning. Then few moves later showing that he did nkt know the variations that deep and that it was not that 3asy. Many players going for the fried liver are banking on the early mistakes. I started playing the lolli attack instead. I think the lolli is better. Delaying sacrificing the knight to a better moment.

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I've lost a few games as white after Nxf7. Nice job with your games

  • @ChessWithMouselip
    @ChessWithMouselip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4.Ng5 is not the Fried Liver. The Fried Liver only happens if it continues 4...d5 5.exd5 Nxd5?! 6.Nxf7. Only *then* is it a Fried Liver. Also, in the line you gave, with 8.Ba4 is a mistake by White. Better is either 8.Bd3 or 8.Qf3 or 8.Be2

    • @ChessWithMouselip
      @ChessWithMouselip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BTW, 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5.exd5 Nxd5?! 6.d4! is the Lolli Attack which is at least as good as the Fried Liver. Set up that position just before 6.Nxf7 and let Stockfish run for a few minutes. It will eventually switch between favoring d4 or Nxf7 and vice versa.

  • @hipgrzyb9967
    @hipgrzyb9967 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    traxler counterattack... for begginers?

  • @babstra55
    @babstra55 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    playing magnus is like playing an engine - you think you have something, then magnus makes a move and nah you didn't have anything.

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And it's all because of this long engine line he has calculated ahaha must be so lame

  • @sababakhtertonoy6986
    @sababakhtertonoy6986 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video man. Keep it up❤

  • @adwaitmathkari
    @adwaitmathkari 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I dont understand the consequesnces of taking Qxe5 @3:00 .. At a beginned level thats what players will do

    • @prashantbits
      @prashantbits หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bxb5.. I think

    • @perkalov
      @perkalov 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@prashantbits
      Yes.
      I would take the pawn if it wasn't going to cost me an bishop. I can always castle out of the "queen/king aligned" problem, next move or two.
      So... At the a "beginned level" they would hang a bishop. But the idea of picking of the pawn, had it been free, works at higher levels then begginers.

  • @shadeburst
    @shadeburst 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After the knight trade it stops being Fried Liver and becomes a normal tactical game.

  • @cewlac
    @cewlac หลายเดือนก่อน

    @ChessBlueprints When you at 08:34 say "just remember that Knight a4", you should have said "Knight a5", ref. 01:16 :)

  • @slendrmusic
    @slendrmusic 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome

  • @Jrush2000
    @Jrush2000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I play the fried liver for both sides as a 1600 and have a high winrate with it. If you know the structures and middlegames then you'll be fine.

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it's a ton of fun 😁

    • @someshkilari
      @someshkilari 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do you counter the Traxler?

    • @Mnil52
      @Mnil52 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder if you could beat magnus with it given your vast experience using it

    • @Jrush2000
      @Jrush2000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mnil52 impossible. even though i’ve improved to 2000 since making this comment, he is a chess savant and GM. I would get clobbered.

  • @Chizurumoke
    @Chizurumoke ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review 👏🏽

  • @FirstPageInTheBook
    @FirstPageInTheBook หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the feeling at 7:30 you just ignored all the complications too quickly. Even your PC evaluation shows some interesting lines.

  • @Lescouflair
    @Lescouflair 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Game as well as great commentary. I just subscribed 🎉

  • @drHouse-gb2kt
    @drHouse-gb2kt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The speed magnus played is 😮

  • @oneman49instruments
    @oneman49instruments 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great one. From Barcelona, 1500 blitz

  • @richardmanes6393
    @richardmanes6393 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    W. B.
    P-K4 P-K4
    N-KB3 B-Q3
    P-Q4. N-QB3
    I don't let it get to fried liver or Ruy Lopez.

  • @kryptoncr1841
    @kryptoncr1841 ปีที่แล้ว

    deserves a follow!

  • @roygobets6053
    @roygobets6053 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun video. I found the background music distracting and irritating. The presenter’s voice is sufficient.

  • @rommeloracion9453
    @rommeloracion9453 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thats how I tackle that game most of the time I'm on black pieces of chess game.

  • @Knightmovesfirst
    @Knightmovesfirst 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im confused,,you call this what Magnus played the Polerio Defense and what Hikaru played thePolerio Defense. I always seen what Hikaru played was the Chigorin counter attack.

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      These were most popular on chess.com at the time I made the videos, could be different now :)

  • @leolima75
    @leolima75 หลายเดือนก่อน

    'Easy end game ...' 😂😂😂 Yes... Magnus makes it look easy.

  • @JB_inks
    @JB_inks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another reason why he didn't take his knight because it would have opened up the white rook

  • @VidaBlue317
    @VidaBlue317 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's easy to crush against fried liver. And I don't know why. For whatever reason I always end up better when someone gets cray cray

  • @SpaceGenome
    @SpaceGenome ปีที่แล้ว

    4:24 Knite b3 is just stupid, I'd do Knite B5 menacing c7 fork and gain a tempo to get that bishop out, (and I'm a beginner so maybe I'm wrong but b3 looks stupid to me)

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah the dude was way too keen to just trade everything hey

  • @Kirito_wr
    @Kirito_wr ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Nah this is boring im gonna stick with my traxler

  • @Josiah_Harder
    @Josiah_Harder 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if white had taken the pawn with his F Rook instead and then after some trades it looks like white is still up a Rook right?

    • @Josiah_Harder
      @Josiah_Harder 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nevermind I see now the knight takes back with check and then black is up a Rook after that

  • @h1a8
    @h1a8 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bad mistake. This is not the fried liver but the two knights defense. Fried liver is to 5...Nxd5 and then 6. Nxf7
    This is basically click bait

    • @perkalov
      @perkalov 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But... Fried Liver is an variant of Two Knights Defense.

    • @h1a8
      @h1a8 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@perkalov Yes just like the Najdorf is a variation of Sicilian defense. It's just as misleading for a title to read "Najdorf" when the "Sveshnikov" is shown.

  • @Christoff070
    @Christoff070 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    U need to anaylse it a bit more. Good effort though, maybe pause st certsin points too to let viewers guess the key move

  • @jxeu1128
    @jxeu1128 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good presentation

  • @tonydavis5512
    @tonydavis5512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2 inaccuracies in the first minute of this video. 1. There's nothing wrong with the Traxler counter-gambit and 6.d4 is stronger than 6.Nxf7?! straight away...

  • @Oggi7777
    @Oggi7777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Uh lung castle

  • @Krazy1992
    @Krazy1992 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dont get it, people are scared of the Fried Liver, so stop playing Nf6 so fast, Bc5 or e7 and you wont have this problem, i see no advantage to play Nf6 before.

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly that is great advice

  • @landen99
    @landen99 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice!

  • @pommedemer1922
    @pommedemer1922 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro really put blunders on the thumbnail like if the fried liver is not a legit opening if not one of the best lines against nf6

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahaha yeah I know Wesley actually recommends it in his e4 course

  • @IgorYagolnitser
    @IgorYagolnitser ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not really a Fried Liver unless Black retakes on d5.

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Such a fun line for white :)

    • @IgorYagolnitser
      @IgorYagolnitser หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChessBlueprints I don't know about that, I win 90% of my games playing Nxd5 as Black, some in under 15 moves. I drew an IM in a simul, beat an expert in a tournament game, and of course hundreds of blitz games, both online and OTB. The play for Black is strategically simple: don't get mated. White often has to find the only move to continue the attack, they are almost always material down, and Black is always better prepared, because White mostly prepares for other lines, and all White knows is that Nxd5 is bad, you sac on f7, go Qf3+ and win, and then over the board realize that it's not that simple. I can't tell you how many people in slow time control OTB game would spend 10+ minutes after Nxd5 and then decide to play Qf3 instead of Nxf7, realizing they can't see the win after Nxf7.

  • @ShaddyJerome-sw4yi
    @ShaddyJerome-sw4yi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    White never takes f7 pawn then u said its fried liver.. S2pd.

  • @Hbmd3E
    @Hbmd3E 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Look like the game takes totally different form when these GM:s are playing. me playing, cant even get decent attack.

  • @dannygjk
    @dannygjk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you think those two moves in the image are question mark moves I'll play you. 😏

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and you'll probably win ahaha
      I'm JakeRL123 if you want to :)

  • @tacticaltal
    @tacticaltal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ng5 is NOT the Fried Liver. Only after black takes on d5 and white plays Nxf7 is it the Fried Liver! Jeeze!

  • @andariyanganj
    @andariyanganj ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE

  • @iainbozfelt
    @iainbozfelt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just use the Traxler - white has no chance!!

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bxf7 takes all the fun out of it :(

  • @dustlass
    @dustlass 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine not playing Modern Defense as black. Couldn't be me!

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're saving yourself a lot of stress learning all this e4 e5 theory ahaha

  • @jobersudyobodou9362
    @jobersudyobodou9362 ปีที่แล้ว

    Made it to 5:50, but the music was too annoying to continue. Pretty good video otherwise.

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmmm thanks for letting me know. I'll turn it down

    • @jobersudyobodou9362
      @jobersudyobodou9362 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChessBlueprints Maybe you can find an audience that likes background music. Judging from the most popular sites, though, music is not popular. I have the same problem with math sites that play music. It's just too distracting for intense thinking.

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks that's a good point. I'll take a look like you're suggesting

  • @jamesbell1613
    @jamesbell1613 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You really have to be a novice to fall for this.

    • @ChessBlueprints
      @ChessBlueprints  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lot's of beginner chess players out there :)

  • @WastrelWay
    @WastrelWay หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's NOT the Fried Liver. It's a Two Knight's Defense. The Fried Liver is the line in which Black plays ...Nxd5 after exd5, and then White plays Nxf7. You say it's a lot of fun for White. It is also defensible by Black.

  • @johngrey5806
    @johngrey5806 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:49 He says "obviously, the only move here is pawn to e5", ignorant of the beautiful Traxler Counter-Attack. That's it for me... disliked, unsubscribed. Going to watch agadmator.

  • @ShaddyJerome-sw4yi
    @ShaddyJerome-sw4yi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clickbait

  • @tunneltu
    @tunneltu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    easy to win if you are M.C

  • @franktennant860
    @franktennant860 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bit boring

  • @bahmankargosha4946
    @bahmankargosha4946 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry but a very disappointing video.

  • @nourlhandle1_
    @nourlhandle1_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sorry Not so nice presentation