I do believe Dutch was a genuinely good man once, but when each and every time his plan fails he slowly loses the principles and values he has bestowed upon the rest of the gang. He turned from a optimistically caring seeker for all to a desperately greedy survivor for himself he so much despises. He was pinned against the wall with no room to escape and realized that the society he survived in for so long is changing, there was nothing else he can do but accept the consequences for his actions. Sad how things turn out to be in the end, only wished Dutch listened to Hosea and Arthur sooner that would of avoided such a terrible fate. Great video that highlights Dutch's character, amazing work brother!
Thank you! Appreciate that. Yea it's really sad to see how Dutch just slowly loses grip of himself, and the gang has to pay the price of that. All the poor souls that past away. A man who in the beginning had the best out for everyone, turned in to a cold blinded killer.
Yeah I felt heartbroken when hosea died and then I started to relieve that there are too many people dieing this story ain't gonna end well and then I got the one ending I didn't think of it is sad
And the saddest part is at the end when Javier escuella was the only one on Dutch's side not pointing the gun you could tell he was trying to decide between loyalty and morality and then Arthur's face as his horse died made me cry
everybody has a light and dark side i feel. like the angel/devil on your shoulder cliche. and in this case its arthur vs micah for dutch and in the end we know which side was chosen.
Hosea died loosing faith in his best friend. Lenny died blindly following a cause he didn’t understand. Sean died doing everything in his power to help his friends. Kieran died unappreciated. Arthur died a hero who had been betrayed by his mentor and friend. Dutch died with nothing but regrets for the people he’d sacrificed.
The “this one’s a good one” gave me goose bumps. The way he tried to give the same speech he gave while he and Arthur were trying to cheat death…. This is a masterpiece.
This is definitely one of the best tributes of Dutch! It´s tragic that a man who sought redemption and purity ended up as a criminal corrupted by his own nature.
I actually enjoyed Dutch's character arc moreso than Arthur's. Arthur was amazing, and extremely nuanced, but Dutch just had such a deep entanglement of character motivations pulling him in different directions. Loved both characters, absolutely amazing.
I think Dutch was a genuinely idealistic, if not precisely good, person who wanted a better world for the gang. But the impossible pressures of his situation, which he admittedly did not help, finally caught up with him. Everyone was looking to him for a plan so he had to insist he had one. He wanted to be a savior and hero and his guilt at the fact he couldn't save anyone, even those he loved dearest, broke his spirit and then his mind. This is probably the best Dutch tribute I've found. Amazing, amazing work. You perfectly chronicle his noble beginning and tragic end.
Dutch is one of the greatest written characters of all time imo. It’s crazy how after playing the first game you know what he will become, but even still you get so attached to him in rdr2 and each time he slips further into madness it comes as a shock
He is The best representation of Hosea phrase " maybe we are good people doing bad things"...i think duch was a good man...but all the problems + Micah...make him lost his mind
Dutch was a man you could believe in. He was a man you could look up to. He was a man who, despite being an outlaw, had a code. He was a man who could inspire. "I gave you everything I had, Dutch. I really did." We followed Dutch to the gates of hell and we'd keep following him. But the man at the end of RDR2 is a shell of the good man he once was. Dutch became what he feared most: a cold-blooded killer.
He was always a bad man. You can see it the more you restart the story. He just found it very difficult to keep up the optimistic act once things started to go horribly wrong. He started to embrace the vicious, true side of his character, and that was his biggest mistake, besides his ignorance and stubborness taking over his judgment.
Ima let u know this is hands down the single greatest dutch tribute or video whatever, the editing, the sound, the choices in clips, your a very very talented person. Never stop.
These words with culmination of music give me goosebumps 4:17 (especially if you know the context of the whole story). You done very good job. Probably in this video beautiful is everything. (Why I cant tap like button twice)😞
Dutch’s philosophy and his actions contradict each other and he fails to implement his goals because he is unable to commit to them. Instead of trying to save his gang members and showing care towards them he values himself above them and fails to live up to what he is preaching.
He does fail to live up to his preachings, but I doubt he only cared for himself, He does try to save as many gang members as he can in the beginning and mid game, by late game Dutch has gone insane after constantly seeing everyone he cares about lose faith in him, and him being unable to to truly take a win(thanks to Micah of course), in the end Dutch is man who is trying to fight change, but fighting change is a losing battle and we see that throughout both red dead 1 and 2, he sees the world around him changing and he doesn't like it, so he is left with 2 options, conform with the change or fight it, and Dutch chose to fight, building up a gang and people that I do really think he cared about, I think Dutch was genuinely good person, driven to his breaking point when he loses everything because he is fighting a war that is impossible to win, he goes from charismatic leader that wants to live a life of freedom with his gang, to a person who is desperate to survive, there are a couple lines of dialogue that confirm this Arthur: "What about the women?" Dutch: "You sound like Hosea. I miss.....him" Losing Hosea was Dutch's final breaking point, combined with the fact that Micah seemed to be the only one boosting Dutch up during this whole time. Then in Red Dead 1 right before Dutch falls off the cliff, he comes to terms with the fact that he failed and lost the war, thinking about Arthur in his final moments of life
@@ClovenOnes Yes, he started out as a good character such as the way he treated Sadie for example but he also shot that girl during the Blackwater Massacre. He started to go insane after the death of Hosea that much is clear and Arthur’s death was the final straw for him. He pretty much went completely insane after that. All and all he is a controversial figure but a very intriguing one nonetheless.
A very good tribute to a legendary rdr villain that I still respect even after all Dutch has done I can relate to John in the sense that I still see him as a great outlaw
Dude got a TBI in the trolly crash. CTE is a hell of a drug for real. It changes people and there’s no stopping it. It’s plain as day the way they played it out for us.
People always say: what does Dutch see in Micah ? They fail to realize that Dutch is both Arthur and Micah personified. Family and Survival. Dutch will fight through the fires of hell to save you if you believe in him. Not even God himself will stop him. But the world increasingly made it: Family vs Survival. But Dutch's motivation for survival differs from Micah's. Whilst Micah will cling onto life at any cost, Dutch's ideals against the world that wants him dead, that wants to brand him nothing but a monster, will not win. They WILL NOT break him. His nature is incapable of accepting it, just like the dragons of Skyrim cannot comprehend the concept of mortality. That's why he would rather jump off a mountain than be captured. Bronte: '' You are nothing, you mean nothing, you stand for nothing'' - You can't possibly understand how much damage such words can do to a character like Dutch. You can only push a band so far before it snaps. You want a monster ? You will get a monster. I understand Dutch perfectly, and whilst I want to be like Arthur, I understand him because he is me. And whilst people with a shallow moral compass like to dismiss Dutch as ''manipulative narcissist from the start'', I will refer them to Master Paarthurnax from Skyrim. Paarthurnax: ''What is better ? To be born ''good' , or to overcome your evil nature through great effort'' - I'd argue the latter is true virtue as it is impossible to test virtue without temptation. It is synonymous with redemption. That is what Arthur fought to achieve, and Dutch couldn't in the end. And for those that think people are born ''good', I think coward is a better name. Why ? A rabbit is not virtuous for not killing a Lion. It simply CANNOT.
@@saenger9204 Nobody said he wasn't a narcissist. Tbh, so many people use that word for anything north of their perceived degree of appropriate self-regard. It has lost all meaning at this point. But again, nobody said he wasn't a narcissist. it's highlighting the virtue in fighting your *natural-born vices* . Because in-fact, that is only where true virtue lies. And not where you are regarded as "good" because you have no fangs or the power to be malevolent (aka a lion vs a rabbit).
@@leone41ll I agree many people use the term incorrectly, but the term still has meaning. Also, Dutch fights against an opressive new world while preaching for a world even wilder. He and his gang were products of another era and the new era scared them because they were losing their power and were being hunted one by one. The new era has it's flaws, but Dutch is no better than any of them. He disliked Bronte because Bronte is a basically a new world Dutch: a crook using ties and bribes to get what he wants. Deeming Dutch as a bad man is not having a shallow moral compass, it's about actually having one. This guy justified robbing and killing people using cheap Robin Hood lines and manipulating young people to do his bidding while deluding himself to think he actually meant what he said. He was never a good man and, deep down, he never actually cared that much about anyone. Arthur and Hosea were the exception, but it was still a limited bond, since Dutch completely turned against Arthur once he started thinking for himself. He may have disguised his true intentions with good speech, but in the end he just wanted to cause mayhem and kill people. There was no virtue in what he did, only lies. He was a coward who gaslighted himself and others into thinking there was honor in what they did. John is the real virtuous man in the series. He never lied about who he was and what he did and actually restrained himself later on. That's virtue
Dutch wasn't bad guy it was Shitty Micah, stupid Bell when Hosea died he losed his mind At the end it wasn't help they start to aim for each other Arthur, John and Susan vs Others Susan died, Arthur Died John Escaped In the end he hasn't got his redemption he just understanded that he was mistaken
Dutch was never a good man. He was always a schemer. A grifter. A user of the broken, The desperate, And the damned; Who profited from his people, And gave them nothing but a pipe-dream in return. Dutch slowly became unraveled. Now and then, his charismatic mask would sag, And we would get little peeks at his true nature.
"This is a good one" AH! Gets me every time 🥲. . .I just recently realized that the cliff scene with Dutch & John is almost exactly like the cliff scene with him and Arthur and is makes you wonder if he was thinking of Arthur when he was on the cliff with John. . . .Not me makin myself want to cry 🥲👍
If only he had a PLAN!
He had a god-damned plan. It just made no fucking sense.
That plan was Tahiti and mango
Just epic you beauty. Less than 100k is a CRIME for this one x
He always have plan
SONG ?
“This place… ain’t no such thing as civilized. It’s man so in love with greed, he has forgotten himself and found only appetites.”
Dutch van der linde is the most complex character of gaming history
I do believe Dutch was a genuinely good man once, but when each and every time his plan fails he slowly loses the principles and values he has bestowed upon the rest of the gang. He turned from a optimistically caring seeker for all to a desperately greedy survivor for himself he so much despises. He was pinned against the wall with no room to escape and realized that the society he survived in for so long is changing, there was nothing else he can do but accept the consequences for his actions. Sad how things turn out to be in the end, only wished Dutch listened to Hosea and Arthur sooner that would of avoided such a terrible fate. Great video that highlights Dutch's character, amazing work brother!
Thank you! Appreciate that. Yea it's really sad to see how Dutch just slowly loses grip of himself, and the gang has to pay the price of that. All the poor souls that past away. A man who in the beginning had the best out for everyone, turned in to a cold blinded killer.
Yeah I felt heartbroken when hosea died and then I started to relieve that there are too many people dieing this story ain't gonna end well and then I got the one ending I didn't think of it is sad
And the saddest part is at the end when Javier escuella was the only one on Dutch's side not pointing the gun you could tell he was trying to decide between loyalty and morality and then Arthur's face as his horse died made me cry
I think the head injury from the trolley crash either intensified that and his aggressiveness.
everybody has a light and dark side i feel. like the angel/devil on your shoulder cliche. and in this case its arthur vs micah for dutch and in the end we know which side was chosen.
Hosea died loosing faith in his best friend. Lenny died blindly following a cause he didn’t understand. Sean died doing everything in his power to help his friends. Kieran died unappreciated. Arthur died a hero who had been betrayed by his mentor and friend. Dutch died with nothing but regrets for the people he’d sacrificed.
The “this one’s a good one” gave me goose bumps. The way he tried to give the same speech he gave while he and Arthur were trying to cheat death…. This is a masterpiece.
This is definitely one of the best tributes of Dutch! It´s tragic that a man who sought redemption and purity ended up as a criminal corrupted by his own nature.
Dutch is the true meaning of everything is possible you create your own reality
I actually enjoyed Dutch's character arc moreso than Arthur's. Arthur was amazing, and extremely nuanced, but Dutch just had such a deep entanglement of character motivations pulling him in different directions. Loved both characters, absolutely amazing.
I think Dutch was a genuinely idealistic, if not precisely good, person who wanted a better world for the gang. But the impossible pressures of his situation, which he admittedly did not help, finally caught up with him. Everyone was looking to him for a plan so he had to insist he had one. He wanted to be a savior and hero and his guilt at the fact he couldn't save anyone, even those he loved dearest, broke his spirit and then his mind.
This is probably the best Dutch tribute I've found. Amazing, amazing work. You perfectly chronicle his noble beginning and tragic end.
A GREAT LEADER
Dutch is one of the greatest written characters of all time imo. It’s crazy how after playing the first game you know what he will become, but even still you get so attached to him in rdr2 and each time he slips further into madness it comes as a shock
I like Dutch and the RDR2 is best sequel game ever
He is The best representation of Hosea phrase " maybe we are good people doing bad things"...i think duch was a good man...but all the problems + Micah...make him lost his mind
Our time has passed...
Probably watched this 50+ times, incredible work
"Our time has passed..."
Dutch was a man you could believe in. He was a man you could look up to. He was a man who, despite being an outlaw, had a code. He was a man who could inspire.
"I gave you everything I had, Dutch. I really did."
We followed Dutch to the gates of hell and we'd keep following him. But the man at the end of RDR2 is a shell of the good man he once was. Dutch became what he feared most: a cold-blooded killer.
what you fear of becoming is what you become no matter how hard you try
@@Thesamscott no
Hosea and Arthur spoke the truth to him, demonstrating the reality they are living. And Micah whispered what DUTCH wanted to hear.
This tribute is actually just incredible
Dude your edits are amazing
The fact that people can make long and such fire edits/shorts about rdr2 tells you enough, the best game ever made, a must play for everyone.
Kinda shows that it has too many cutscenes
He was always a bad man. You can see it the more you restart the story. He just found it very difficult to keep up the optimistic act once things started to go horribly wrong. He started to embrace the vicious, true side of his character, and that was his biggest mistake, besides his ignorance and stubborness taking over his judgment.
I'm definitely subscribing after seeing this. You summarized his character arc perfectly
A thanks man!
dutch was a good man but when he lost more and more of the gang he lost it and he went crazy.
Best Dutch tribute on TH-cam
There they are..the CHILLS like ice up my spine! 😁
Phenomenal tribute. Can’t stop watching it
you are so fucking talented i legit can’t describe how good this edit is it’s legit so perfectly made well done Kyan you are indeed amazing.
Well thank you man, appriciate it!
Dutch lost his mind cause he had the devil “Micah” whispering in his ear
I believe that dutch was a good man but after the head injury and the loss of Hosea he went off the deep end
I watched this vid more than 100 times 🎉🎉
Such a fantastic edit, gave me goosebumps. Perfectly explained how good and incredible character dutch really is,
Best Dutch Tribute 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The second Hosea died Dutch's mind snapped
Ima let u know this is hands down the single greatest dutch tribute or video whatever, the editing, the sound, the choices in clips, your a very very talented person. Never stop.
The legendary ❤😢
Awesome cut, kind sir! RDR 2 is more than a game, it's an experience.
These words with culmination of music give me goosebumps 4:17 (especially if you know the context of the whole story). You done very good job. Probably in this video beautiful is everything. (Why I cant tap like button twice)😞
Dutch’s philosophy and his actions contradict each other and he fails to implement his goals because he is unable to commit to them. Instead of trying to save his gang members and showing care towards them he values himself above them and fails to live up to what he is preaching.
He does fail to live up to his preachings, but I doubt he only cared for himself, He does try to save as many gang members as he can in the beginning and mid game, by late game Dutch has gone insane after constantly seeing everyone he cares about lose faith in him, and him being unable to to truly take a win(thanks to Micah of course), in the end Dutch is man who is trying to fight change, but fighting change is a losing battle and we see that throughout both red dead 1 and 2, he sees the world around him changing and he doesn't like it, so he is left with 2 options, conform with the change or fight it, and Dutch chose to fight, building up a gang and people that I do really think he cared about, I think Dutch was genuinely good person, driven to his breaking point when he loses everything because he is fighting a war that is impossible to win, he goes from charismatic leader that wants to live a life of freedom with his gang, to a person who is desperate to survive, there are a couple lines of dialogue that confirm this
Arthur: "What about the women?"
Dutch: "You sound like Hosea. I miss.....him"
Losing Hosea was Dutch's final breaking point, combined with the fact that Micah seemed to be the only one boosting Dutch up during this whole time. Then in Red Dead 1 right before Dutch falls off the cliff, he comes to terms with the fact that he failed and lost the war, thinking about Arthur in his final moments of life
@@ClovenOnes Yes, he started out as a good character such as the way he treated Sadie for example but he also shot that girl during the Blackwater Massacre. He started to go insane after the death of Hosea that much is clear and Arthur’s death was the final straw for him. He pretty much went completely insane after that. All and all he is a controversial figure but a very intriguing one nonetheless.
This is amaziny
this video is PERFECT!!
A very good tribute to a legendary rdr villain that I still respect even after all Dutch has done I can relate to John in the sense that I still see him as a great outlaw
Well here i am again, amazed by your work as always Kyan. Great job.
Thanks man!
Sad to see Dutch going down little by little
This is better than i expected 🗿 well done.
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I just hope for all people defending Dutch, that they never come in close contact with a manipulative narcissist in real life.
These are so good!
Excellent work partner 🤠
Amazing loved it brought tears to my eyes I hope we see Hosea in RDR 3 if there ever will be
That intro is perfect
GORGEOUS!
Absolutely incredible edit!
This the best video on youtube. Please make more videos of dutch
looks like a fckng trailer omg
Back to back 2 failed robbery in his leadership puts too pressure on his head, he want to succeed anyway , that took his mind off 😢
It's perfect for him
Best one I've seen
Dude got a TBI in the trolly crash. CTE is a hell of a drug for real. It changes people and there’s no stopping it. It’s plain as day the way they played it out for us.
You make a damn good video
The Ballad and Madness of Dutch Van Der Linde.
holy shit this is a good one
People always say: what does Dutch see in Micah ? They fail to realize that Dutch is both Arthur and Micah personified. Family and Survival. Dutch will fight through the fires of hell to save you if you believe in him. Not even God himself will stop him. But the world increasingly made it: Family vs Survival.
But Dutch's motivation for survival differs from Micah's. Whilst Micah will cling onto life at any cost, Dutch's ideals against the world that wants him dead, that wants to brand him nothing but a monster, will not win. They WILL NOT break him. His nature is incapable of accepting it, just like the dragons of Skyrim cannot comprehend the concept of mortality. That's why he would rather jump off a mountain than be captured.
Bronte: '' You are nothing, you mean nothing, you stand for nothing'' - You can't possibly understand how much damage such words can do to a character like Dutch. You can only push a band so far before it snaps. You want a monster ? You will get a monster.
I understand Dutch perfectly, and whilst I want to be like Arthur, I understand him because he is me.
And whilst people with a shallow moral compass like to dismiss Dutch as ''manipulative narcissist from the start'', I will refer them to Master Paarthurnax from Skyrim.
Paarthurnax: ''What is better ? To be born ''good' , or to overcome your evil nature through great effort'' - I'd argue the latter is true virtue as it is impossible to test virtue without temptation. It is synonymous with redemption. That is what Arthur fought to achieve, and Dutch couldn't in the end.
And for those that think people are born ''good', I think coward is a better name. Why ? A rabbit is not virtuous for not killing a Lion. It simply CANNOT.
Dutch is good person but he faced many difficulties that lead him to be crazy monster without principals
That's a good analysis
He still has many traits of NPD though. I have lived many years with a narcissist and I see many similarities between him and Dutch
@@saenger9204 Nobody said he wasn't a narcissist.
Tbh, so many people use that word for anything north of their perceived degree of appropriate self-regard.
It has lost all meaning at this point.
But again, nobody said he wasn't a narcissist.
it's highlighting the virtue in fighting your *natural-born vices* . Because in-fact, that is only where true virtue lies.
And not where you are regarded as "good" because you have no fangs or the power to be malevolent (aka a lion vs a rabbit).
@@leone41ll I agree many people use the term incorrectly, but the term still has meaning. Also, Dutch fights against an opressive new world while preaching for a world even wilder. He and his gang were products of another era and the new era scared them because they were losing their power and were being hunted one by one. The new era has it's flaws, but Dutch is no better than any of them. He disliked Bronte because Bronte is a basically a new world Dutch: a crook using ties and bribes to get what he wants. Deeming Dutch as a bad man is not having a shallow moral compass, it's about actually having one. This guy justified robbing and killing people using cheap Robin Hood lines and manipulating young people to do his bidding while deluding himself to think he actually meant what he said. He was never a good man and, deep down, he never actually cared that much about anyone. Arthur and Hosea were the exception, but it was still a limited bond, since Dutch completely turned against Arthur once he started thinking for himself. He may have disguised his true intentions with good speech, but in the end he just wanted to cause mayhem and kill people. There was no virtue in what he did, only lies. He was a coward who gaslighted himself and others into thinking there was honor in what they did. John is the real virtuous man in the series. He never lied about who he was and what he did and actually restrained himself later on. That's virtue
They need to make this into a movie
After Arthur and John, He is my fovourite.
If only he didn't lose his mind... If only he had a plan.
Love this
Red dead 3 should be a prequel to 2 and you play as dutch through his early years and him meeting hosea and forming the gang
I want to play dutch
Me to
yeah I know my profile is dutch but dutch is actually my second favorite character
Amazing
It was always one more score
Do a one on Charles one of the underrated characters 💙
WE JUST NEED MONEY !
Dutch wasn't bad guy it was Shitty Micah, stupid Bell when Hosea died he losed his mind
At the end it wasn't help they start to aim for each other Arthur, John and Susan vs Others Susan died, Arthur Died John Escaped
In the end he hasn't got his redemption he just understanded that he was mistaken
Amazing do a Hosea one
“Things have been tough. There ain’t no doubt about that, trust me.”
Do anybody knows the song
The Wicked Ones- Secession Stuidos
@@MaskedArtist08 thanks bro
Are you persian brother?
If you are a persian ... I am proud of you 🖤
SONG ?
On description
"For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life."(John 3 :16)
Dutch was never a good man.
He was always a schemer.
A grifter.
A user of the broken,
The desperate,
And the damned;
Who profited from his people,
And gave them nothing but a pipe-dream in return.
Dutch slowly became unraveled.
Now and then, his charismatic mask would sag,
And we would get little peeks at his true nature.
Amazing. It wonderful! Bravo!
"This is a good one" AH! Gets me every time 🥲. . .I just recently realized that the cliff scene with Dutch & John is almost exactly like the cliff scene with him and Arthur and is makes you wonder if he was thinking of Arthur when he was on the cliff with John. . . .Not me makin myself want to cry 🥲👍