Was the one v five penta in the second? Because I couldn't watch it with time constraints. The one in the first video wasn't even close to a 1 v 5. It started with ults being used on other teammates, health being drained killing other teammates, and the enemy being out of place due to other teammates. Make no mistake, Zwag is great, but to count as a 1 v 5 no one else in the group can do anything. Like if Jinx ults a very low group after her team dies and they do baron, it isn't a 1 v 5 even if it was a penta.
If you RW neekos decoy clone the second before it disapears it will insta proc bith halves of RW for a big instant heal. RW healing on clones and summons when low and running in is a great way to catch people off guard.
I've mained karma for 5 years and I hadn't actually thought about that as an actual technique... I've probably done it some time but I'll actually think about it now. Thx!
@@jeohranalfhir8366 it's good in support lane against Zyra plants too. If you auto them to 1 hit your RW will finish it instantly procing both halves. Heimer, LeBlanc, shaco, etc. Lots of things that a lot of opponents won't expect too give so a big heal.
The Quinn was almost enough to make me forget about the cannons, but you kept missing them and getting bummed about it lol... Still, great games, nice 1v5 Penta!
i like the "empowered Q has such a big hit box its difficult to miss". Instantly thinking of all the times ive missed it or jst aimed at creeps knowing im going to miss the champ lol
Can't find the other karma video you made before this, did you unlist it? I added it to my watch later playlist but it's gone completely and I can't find it.
Heyo Zwag. Minnions spawned by Yorick, Zyra, Bel'Veth, Malza, Naafiri etc have protection against spells/attacks that are not single target, just to not kill them on just 1 spell. The most common experiment that you can do to prove the theory - use e on Quasus against them, and then use just auto. Oneshoted by AA but e makes them unfazed. Similar to Morgana W and Q (even if you go 1 million AP W won't kill minions, but q will kill every single one)
Karma build of the day: Redemption for aggressive gameplay. Build redemption first or second item, tether the enemy and immediately throw empowered Q + Redemption on top, it will activate all other AP items regardless. Don't underestimate redemptions damage, for it hits true damage at a 10% max enemy health. Plus you can help your hommie jungler if in a pinch while in mid.
Yorick ghouls don't take as much damage from AOE sources to prevent them from being one shot by everything. It's why melee attacks that are single target will kill immediately, but not Karma Q. You probably already know this, but I like random info, so I'm sharing
I love Karma! Very great supp with an diverse kit and build path. Very nice pentakill. I think a lot of ranged top owners act like that because they play ranged top laners
You should try Bruiser Blitz with hexplate, spear of shojin, sundered sky, navori, and sterak's. You get PTA or lethal tempo, and when you grab someone, you can ult for the extra move and attack speed, w will give you more attack speed, and the navori will decrease cd on w to keep it up in an extended fight!
I remember when this was released, I went from a Level 1 Karma to Level 7 in just a week by grinding it in top lane using the Malignance. I still use it now and it's still OP, but it's only viable in top lane, not anymore in mid lane because it's been nerfed to a point where other control mages can do better already. But in top lane? Feels like a Vayne lol
At 20 minutes i love how it wasnt actually a 1v5 pentakill, it started with pyke dying and ended with pyke dying it was a hexakill i guess he got 6 in the same fight
I'm fairly new to league, one thing i noticed was mid laners love to be pushed up and bullying an opponent to stay under tower. Whereas in the other lanes, this type of behaviour is considered suicide when there is a competent jungler on the enemy team. Obviously the shape of the map. It's just confusing to me, i get the distances are shorter, the mid lane is basically as the crow flies compared to top and bot. Except there is around 8 access points for an enemy jungler to attempt a gank, making it a much riskier endeavour from my grasp of things. Unless the team and i have vision in the river, and ganking entries, wouldn't it actually be optimal for the enemy to be pushed under his turret? Like freezing a wave down bot, you let the minions do the walking, why doesn't this apply in mid?
Support doing a Penta... I thought that only Pyke can do that. What happened to League guys XD Asking for a tank Cassiopeia. Days asked: 345, days skipped: 7, winrate: 98.011% Core items: Archangel's, Heartsteel OR Iceborn Gauntlet, Riftmaker (for HP to AP conversion) AND/OR Liandry's Situational items (pick some): Rod of Ages, Rylai's, Cosmic Drive, Frozen Heart, Abbysal Mask, Spirit Visage, Force of Nature, Kaenic, Jak'Sho, Warmog's Primary runes: Grasp, Demolish, Conditioning, Overgrowth OR standard Conqueror. Secondary runes: Manaflow, Gathering Storm OR Presence of mind, Last stand. Extra facts: You want Archangel's first, because Cass is so mana hungry. Gauntlet might work, because with E you'll proc it often. Heartsteel will easily proc because you're ranged and fast. For the same reason Rylai's will be excellent for kiting, just like bruiser Ashe. Spirit Visage synergizes with your E healing and Seraph's shielding. "My viewers BEGGED me for a Tank Cassiopeia build... And it's actually busted" My thanks for supporting this suggestion (in many ways) go to: GiovanniBoss, Lena Miaou, D.Lockholm, FashionSuckMan, Thaddeus Hill, Gustavo Martirena, Kuroji, Maja, Jänix Burger, Fitzgerald Stanbury Weiss the 5th, Dávid Hidvégi, TimmyMicBobbins. I like any feedback on this comment!
What is Quinn hoping for? That her 73 question mark pings will at some point make you feel responsible for her lane? You’ll decide to look into her future to assist her every time she over extends? What? 😅
how does he know he wont get ganked if he doesnt ward those brushes? i dont play mid im just curious to know. maybe this is a high elo thing but i dont expect mid to track the jg
So how is 3ms ping even possible. The only explanation I can think of is that he has direct cable connection with the data centre hosting the riot server a few blocks from his house.
Thumbnail at first i was like, Irelia, but the blades looks way too fat, Kai’sa? Tho i dont remember her having Rings on her head, then Karma since she has been pretty strong this patch.
‘This Quinn is a whole different Quinn than the last one’ meanwhile it was the exact same guy lol
hahahaha
I was dying, like wait... That's actually the exact same player. Unlucky for Zwag.
26:15 "I think this Quinn is a whole different Quinn than the last one" even though it is the same person 😂
love seeing karma games man, she has been my fave champ since 2013 and that 1v5 made me so fkn happy lmao. insane.
Same here bro. Karma been underrated super long IMHO.
SAAAAAME
Except for the 2013 part since I play since 2017
I missed when Karma used to deal damage on her empowered E. It was crazy OP for teamfights lol
@@wangusbeef86 I MISS WHEN KARMA'S AUTO'S COUNTED FOR HER PASSIVE *cries*
Kled: "Holy sh!t my team."
My brother in Aurelion Sol, *_you were Pentakilled too!_*
😂
😂
AWH HEARING ZWAG'S ADRENALINE HAPPINESS AFTER THAT PENTA SO CUTE
Karma was always a pretty powerful mage but Malignance just turned her into a complete monster, it's fun as hell. Great game too.
I love how your reaction to the mental booming Quinn is "gj top!"
Also, the hitbox on Karma's Q is equally as stupid as Morgana's Q 🤣
That was a clean 1v5 penta as karma
Totally clean
Was the one v five penta in the second? Because I couldn't watch it with time constraints. The one in the first video wasn't even close to a 1 v 5. It started with ults being used on other teammates, health being drained killing other teammates, and the enemy being out of place due to other teammates. Make no mistake, Zwag is great, but to count as a 1 v 5 no one else in the group can do anything.
Like if Jinx ults a very low group after her team dies and they do baron, it isn't a 1 v 5 even if it was a penta.
@@CatGamer-wc2ij 19:37 Except for the the Kled, he got all the kills without assists on them. I'd say that's an almost clean 1v5 Pentakill no?
the pyke gank at 6 mins 😂
If you RW neekos decoy clone the second before it disapears it will insta proc bith halves of RW for a big instant heal. RW healing on clones and summons when low and running in is a great way to catch people off guard.
I've mained karma for 5 years and I hadn't actually thought about that as an actual technique... I've probably done it some time but I'll actually think about it now. Thx!
@@jeohranalfhir8366 it's good in support lane against Zyra plants too. If you auto them to 1 hit your RW will finish it instantly procing both halves. Heimer, LeBlanc, shaco, etc. Lots of things that a lot of opponents won't expect too give so a big heal.
“Did Zwag get the first 6 CS?”
Yes, he got all 6, and he said so!
Win Streak: 1
Then, he missed a melee minion
Lose Streak: 1
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Legend still doing it!
@@alvaromaicas7039 hello!
@mrhazeck6084 hiiii!
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Quinn being usless bothgames is crazy
The Quinn was almost enough to make me forget about the cannons, but you kept missing them and getting bummed about it lol... Still, great games, nice 1v5 Penta!
after that annie game i think, i figured this was coming.
Yeah the super passive Karma really annoyed em
i like the "empowered Q has such a big hit box its difficult to miss". Instantly thinking of all the times ive missed it or jst aimed at creeps knowing im going to miss the champ lol
Also is mr max ms ww man ever gonna get his vid?
The support champs are soo balanced. You had 4 of them in your team
I love Karma games but my god I can't deal with that Quinn
6:00 ok that was clean
as a jungle main, “gj top” into mute is now my new favorite way to deal with goofy ass top laners 😂
48:12 “WOW one Lux E does half of my health?”
Narrator: “his HP was at 26%.”
Quinn is the kind of player I get in my ranked games..
rank players vs ranked players
@@billylionisnotagoatwhat's the difference? 😅
@@itmekai the word "rank" means something that stinks or is highly unpleasant so i guess no difference at all 😆
That Leona at the end got me. rofl
people forget what yorrick is made to counter these days. his zombies are resistant to magic.
Checked the games and you got the Exact same person on Quinn for both of them
23:47 not me being casually throw off by hearing the ffx battle theme lol 💕😂
Can't find the other karma video you made before this, did you unlist it? I added it to my watch later playlist but it's gone completely and I can't find it.
This is the same video
@@Zwag did you change the thumbnail and title? This one wasn't in my playlist if it's the same video, weird youtube things i guess
19:37 Too bad the Rell got an assist on Kled. Almost a completely clean Pentakill 😢🔥🔥💯
I just started playing league, I suck but i love it. Can someone explain why Quinn was spamming missing enemy? Was it just to be annoying?
They also use it to ask why?, for example if you use flash at startup by accident they use that ping because it's like "???"
Heyo Zwag. Minnions spawned by Yorick, Zyra, Bel'Veth, Malza, Naafiri etc have protection against spells/attacks that are not single target, just to not kill them on just 1 spell.
The most common experiment that you can do to prove the theory - use e on Quasus against them, and then use just auto. Oneshoted by AA but e makes them unfazed. Similar to Morgana W and Q (even if you go 1 million AP W won't kill minions, but q will kill every single one)
That poor Ahri go BULLIED as a fellow Ahri player it was so painful to watch, there was nothing she could do lol
22:21 22:38 lmao I couldn't stop laughing seeing them take forever
Karma build of the day: Redemption for aggressive gameplay.
Build redemption first or second item, tether the enemy and immediately throw empowered Q + Redemption on top, it will activate all other AP items regardless.
Don't underestimate redemptions damage, for it hits true damage at a 10% max enemy health.
Plus you can help your hommie jungler if in a pinch while in mid.
Karma main support since 2012. Love seeing her still relevant. New items have really opened up some new playstyles.
That Penta was awesome 👌🏼
love the new thumbnail style
That penta was so clean omg the couch was amazing
PENTAKILL starts at minute 19:30
Day LXXXVI (86) of asking for max MS Warwick. Also, go like the crit Rek'Sai dude!
Wait that Roman numeral says 86 hmm
Hey u didnt see like 3 weeks ago he did it on fff...
Yep VI = 6
@@alvaromaicas7039 thanks, made a typo lol
Were there more Missing pings by the Quinn or cannons missed?
Yorick ghouls don't take as much damage from AOE sources to prevent them from being one shot by everything. It's why melee attacks that are single target will kill immediately, but not Karma Q.
You probably already know this, but I like random info, so I'm sharing
I thought (hoped) it was irelia before I opened the vid Xd
Is gathering storm better than scorch? The scorch makes cheap shot go off more often right?
Does zwag play final fantasy? Some of his background music are from that game
I love Karma! Very great supp with an diverse kit and build path. Very nice pentakill.
I think a lot of ranged top owners act like that because they play ranged top laners
Malignance + Luden's Gun can work really well too, both damages stack and function well together.
You should try Bruiser Blitz with hexplate, spear of shojin, sundered sky, navori, and sterak's. You get PTA or lethal tempo, and when you grab someone, you can ult for the extra move and attack speed, w will give you more attack speed, and the navori will decrease cd on w to keep it up in an extended fight!
Was a Karma main when I still played the game. Funnest Champ by far.
the pyke dodge around minute 6 was next level
Haven't seen so many egos as in that first game, lucky it worked out
19:42 Meanwhile Quinn taking Gromp... classic
Idk if anyone mentioned it but I like the new video cover image design idk if you got a new artist or are trying new designs but I like them
I like trying to guess who the champ is
that 1v5 penta, splendid
Thanks for the great vid Zwag!
I remember when this was released, I went from a Level 1 Karma to Level 7 in just a week by grinding it in top lane using the Malignance. I still use it now and it's still OP, but it's only viable in top lane, not anymore in mid lane because it's been nerfed to a point where other control mages can do better already. But in top lane? Feels like a Vayne lol
That second game knew that you were too fed and made sure that cannons were impossible for you to kill.
I want more of this, I also want to see Malignance Tank Karma!
13:21 pykr ult is insane 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
OMG that 1v5 penta I got so hyped
the quinn and rell were malding so hard
That Quinn was ... something
At 20 minutes i love how it wasnt actually a 1v5 pentakill, it started with pyke dying and ended with pyke dying it was a hexakill i guess he got 6 in the same fight
That Penta was CLUTCH!
IDK if you've tried Tank Karma. Spirit Visage into empowered W heals you SOOOO much. Top that with a Endless Despair.
''balanced'' got me XD
Unpopular opinion: I deeply, deeply miss the original karma kit.
You had enough Mana literally because of Manaflow band. You were getting 18 mana every 5 seconds and you got it just then. Amazing 1v5!
I wonder about lethality Sivir. Is she strong right now?
I'm fairly new to league, one thing i noticed was mid laners love to be pushed up and bullying an opponent to stay under tower. Whereas in the other lanes, this type of behaviour is considered suicide when there is a competent jungler on the enemy team.
Obviously the shape of the map. It's just confusing to me, i get the distances are shorter, the mid lane is basically as the crow flies compared to top and bot. Except there is around 8 access points for an enemy jungler to attempt a gank, making it a much riskier endeavour from my grasp of things. Unless the team and i have vision in the river, and ganking entries, wouldn't it actually be optimal for the enemy to be pushed under his turret? Like freezing a wave down bot, you let the minions do the walking, why doesn't this apply in mid?
How did you win without a skin?
The Quinns were annoying but I love your content, I always watch until the end of the full video
I dont normally stick around for the second game but this one was easily worth it
Can you play AP Neeko zwag? With malignance ofc 😊
Bruh I thought it was Irelia on your thumbnail 😅😅😅
Disgustingly op champ, probably the best champ in the game right now
The thumbnail threw me off. Kept searching for zwag, thinking you posted late until I realized this was the video
Zwag I would love to see bard ult kill or the bird wall kill
I almost not clicked with this different thumbnail format
Support doing a Penta... I thought that only Pyke can do that. What happened to League guys XD
Asking for a tank Cassiopeia. Days asked: 345, days skipped: 7, winrate: 98.011%
Core items: Archangel's, Heartsteel OR Iceborn Gauntlet, Riftmaker (for HP to AP conversion) AND/OR Liandry's
Situational items (pick some): Rod of Ages, Rylai's, Cosmic Drive, Frozen Heart, Abbysal Mask, Spirit Visage, Force of Nature, Kaenic, Jak'Sho, Warmog's
Primary runes: Grasp, Demolish, Conditioning, Overgrowth OR standard Conqueror.
Secondary runes: Manaflow, Gathering Storm OR Presence of mind, Last stand.
Extra facts:
You want Archangel's first, because Cass is so mana hungry.
Gauntlet might work, because with E you'll proc it often.
Heartsteel will easily proc because you're ranged and fast. For the same reason Rylai's will be excellent for kiting, just like bruiser Ashe.
Spirit Visage synergizes with your E healing and Seraph's shielding.
"My viewers BEGGED me for a Tank Cassiopeia build... And it's actually busted"
My thanks for supporting this suggestion (in many ways) go to: GiovanniBoss, Lena Miaou, D.Lockholm, FashionSuckMan, Thaddeus Hill, Gustavo Martirena, Kuroji, Maja, Jänix Burger, Fitzgerald Stanbury Weiss the 5th, Dávid Hidvégi, TimmyMicBobbins. I like any feedback on this comment!
Now if only you jungled karma!! You really need to try it Zwag!
This time i working now. I can view your video make relas for my self thank bro!
As a neeko main, this first game was PAINFUL to watch
OMG the PENTA !! WP
20:02 that was almost an exakill
I would 100% ping the Quinn warding trinket lol
I'm surprised that RIOT didn't nerfe Karma , her win rate is at 53%, kinda low, she feels extremely strong
The problem with the Quinn was that she was the only non-support character on the team. Wasn't on your guy's wavelength
Can we have a max punch Set with new items?
Same Quinn lol
What is Quinn hoping for? That her 73 question mark pings will at some point make you feel responsible for her lane? You’ll decide to look into her future to assist her every time she over extends? What? 😅
I just needed to check if it was the same quinn... It was😭😂😂😂😂
how does he know he wont get ganked if he doesnt ward those brushes? i dont play mid im just curious to know. maybe this is a high elo thing but i dont expect mid to track the jg
YEAAAAHA I LOVE KARMA VIDEOS
So how is 3ms ping even possible. The only explanation I can think of is that he has direct cable connection with the data centre hosting the riot server a few blocks from his house.
Thumbnail at first i was like, Irelia, but the blades looks way too fat, Kai’sa? Tho i dont remember her having Rings on her head, then Karma since she has been pretty strong this patch.
When your entire team is supports except for the adc/assassin top laner
Step 1 to being a better player than the Quinn: Turn on your computer monitor.
There is no step two.
Did bro get a single cannon in game 2?
Absolutely no hate btw I found it hilarious cos man still popped off
even if they go invis u can still root them
39:55 back end of empowered q got the first kill