Fast Group Ride on Colnago V3rs: Do I Get Dropped??!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มี.ค. 2023
- I take the Colnago V3rs on a Fast Group Ride to see if it gives me a significant performance advantage over my other bikes. Will I get dropped? Or am I able to keep up?
Make sure you watch till the end for a surprising conclusion!
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There is no question that technological advances have made bikes more efficient and consequently "faster". But faster doesn't necessarily translate to better or more enjoyable.
Selecting a bike boils down to what your cycling needs and goals are... and that doesn't always mean getting the latest and greatest.
Well said sir. 👍
Great topic and the editing is going up up up.
Thank you Chris😁
Great video footage @louis Scott
Here on the West Coast whenever we're in a large group ride & get a flat or mechanical we yell it out to alert others that may stop & help the cyclist, plus it's always nice when a group waits for you and provide a good draft to get back in the ride 👍🏽
Great point👍🏾
I’ve never owned a carbon bike I’ve been riding my Moots titanium and absolutely love it but yesterday I purchased a new Colnago C68 which should be ready to go in about two weeks. Looking forward to seeing how that performs with the group!
Wow. You swing for the fences Rob! Not bad for a first carbon frame. I hope it's enjoyable for you👍🏾
OMG. Let us know what heaven is like…
I like older steel frames :) good do it all bikes! But then again I don't really know any better, never had a carbon frame etc. But I'd still say that steel frames are the best for people who want to get into cycling, they're affordable, dependable, comfortable and can take a beating so I'd say that they're also forgivable. I'd love to try a longer ride on a high end carbon frame one day, but then again, I'm quite happy with steel :)
Thanks for sharing Thomas. There are so many great bikes made of different materials... I enjoy them all. I hope you get to try one out one day👍🏾
That laugh after saying it is a rim brake colnago was priceless 😂👌
Thanks for that KB! It is definitely a plus for me👍🏾
Two Litespeed bikes. My 1994 Classic is a dream. Fits like a glove and will never give it up. I have a new Litespeed Ultimate and it is sweet with electronic shifting and disc brakes. After riding Ti bikes for many years, I have a BMC Road machine coming in a few weeks. First time with carbon fiber and interested in seeing the difference. I also recently retired my Pinarello Stelvio (Steel). I might get it out for nostalgia's sake from time to time. That was a fantastic bike in the days of steel frames.
Thanks for sharing John. A friend just got that BMC and he is loving it👍🏾
Hope you ride it in good health!
I have been riding ‘race’ bikes over 50yrs. 3/4 yrs ago I got a Colnago EP Super, it rides so fast and strong it feels like it took those 50yrs off my life. Such an amazing bike. Thanks - keep up your good work
Thank you Jonathan. The EPS was the first real carbon bike I rode and it left an impression 👍🏾
@louis scott After my test ride of the steel Bianchi that I truly fell in love with barring it wasn't my size, but that ride quality I'll never forget. But when I was introduced to the Cannondale, I was pleasantly surprised on how well the CAAD series feels and I've purchased over a dozen Cannondale bikes over my 23 years of cycling. My current machine is the Cannondale Synapse 2022, which is an endurance bike that I love !
Thanks for sharing Dwayne. The Synapse is a great bike!
Watching from rainy Manchester UK
Great review and envious of that sunshine
Thanks Chris. It is absolutely scorching today. I got out early for a ride and by the time I got back at 9am it was close to 90°👍🏾
The bike I consider the best all-round overall quality is a PinarelloF 10 in a size 51.5 absolutely beautiful suited me to a T, it's the sort of bike that absorbs all the rough roads and brings you out fresh at the end of the ride I also like to pair this up with some 40 carbon wheels for that extra slip and speed consistency plus slightly wider in the rim for that quality ride.
Thanks for sharing Everton. Cannot go wrong with the F series👍🏾
You’re right Luis every job needs a right tool for it. When I do climbed used my 15lbs Willier and when I go flat ride V3rs and long ride my Oltre3😊 really enjoy your honest take in cycling very informative take care man.
Arnold that is a great stable you have! Thanks for sharing with us👍🏾
Back in the "90s, I rode a Trek aluminum 1420. Ten years or so ago, I bought a Cannondale SuperSix. Its a great bike. CF, so it's lightweight and nimble. I started having problems with the press-fit bottom bracket that I could never resolve. Late in 2022, I bought a Pinarello Dogma F12 (threaded BB). I've been on a few short group rides, but the weather in northern Cali has interfered with longer weekend rides for several months. I'm looking forward to the Spring and Summer months so that I can really see how different the bike is.
Hi David! I hope you get on well with it... thanks for sharing👍🏾
Greetings from Australia!
I completely agree with riding the bike that best suits you. I’ve been riding a carbon framed Wilier Izoard XP for the last 10 years and always enjoyed riding it. I know it’s not one of their higher end frames but with a few upgrades along the way its been more than enough bike for me.
Recently I acquired a mid 90’s Pinarello Stelvio frame and fork built with lugged Kens steel tubing. I had it built up with a modern 11 speed Campagnolo Record groupset and a nice Shamal Mille wheelset.
The difference between the 2 rides is night and day. Now, when I hop on the Wilier it feels like I’m riding a brick. Dull and lifeless with a skittish front end. The Pinarello on the other hand feels planted, stable, corners impeccably and feels far more comfortable on the road. It is definitely quick enough for me and I’m now beating some of my best times on roads that I’ve been riding for years.
On paper the lighter, stiffer Wilier should be the better bike however the ride quality of the 20 year older Pinarello means that the Wilier now sits permanently in the garage.
Hi Adrian! Thanks for watching. That Stelvio with Record and Shamal Mille sounds amazing and has a ride quality to suit. Enjoy my friend 👍🏾
So jealous of those roadways. Recently moved from an area that was mostly flat in a 30 mile radius to an area just 100 miles away where you can't go a mile without a tremendous climb. I miss the speed riding tremendously but I am quickly becoming a skilled climber, which is something I never imagined nor wanted. All that said, cherish those roads it looks like a lot of fun!
Thank you, I will👍🏾
Luis outstanding vid as always and probably containing the most important lesson in cycling. ‘Faster / latest bikes’ does not automatically equate to ‘better or more enjoyable’. As you point out it’s individual preference / satisfaction from the all round experience on the bike and ease of ownership, combined with cycling community and fellowship that really counts. Happy to skip up the hills on rim brake Colnago, push on the flat or descend on rails, point and ride style. Consistently well built not the always the absolute lightest or latest but how many frames leave you as fresh after multi day 80-100 mile rides or a hard club run , especially one approaching 17 years old ? . Great work my man, love the Chanel ethos and content 👏👏👏
Thank you Kevin! I completely agree 👍🏾
Great video Luis. My first racebike was a used Klein Quantum Pro aluminum bike with carbon fork. When i was 2 years into cycling i changed it for a Canyon Endurace CF7 with campy chorus 11 speed. That bike just didn't do it for me. I have had some issues with the bb and the DTswiss wheelset. I sold that bike because it was not stiff enough for me. In the meantime i bought a used Pro Race Cross ( Belgium Brand) that bike brought back the joy of cycling to me. It came with a 10 speed campy veloce groupset. With that bike i have had no problems at all unless some maintenance. I really love the way the older campy groupset shifts, a big clack...and it is in the right gear. The wheelset on the Pro-Race is a stock Khamsin G3 set. This wheelset is bombproof...and i love it. Last year i also bought a Cannondale Topstone 0 gravelbike. Downside on that bike for me was the wheelset and the FSA crankset. I did buy me a handbuild wheelset and a couple of weeks ago i changed the crankset for a Shimano GRX 810. I have to place a sidenote tough, i am a tall and heavy rider.
Currently i am in the market for a new bike. Its not going to be a carbon bike. I was looking at a Condor Fratello. But for now still sorting some things out.
Hi Carlo! Sometimes we have to franken' the components to get the bike functioning well. Happy to hear about the good result you had with the Veloce. Thanks for sharing 👍🏾
Very enjoyable video, although that group is definitely not a "no drop" ride. I have helped people on group rides get up and rolling again after a flat--part of the communal experience. As to my favourite bikes, you are right about different bikes for different purposes. I have a custom-built steel Marinoni which I have used for many years for touring and it just so supple, ideal for long distances. My 2014 steel Tommasini, also custom-built, is a beautiful object that fits like a glove and with a compact crankset (not like those Florida gears!) it feels great on climbs as well as descents. At the end of the day it is the engine that matters most if you want to go fast but having fun comes first for me.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Leslie👍🏾
From Brasília, Brazil, watching all the tips and rides of Luis
Thanks for watching👍🏾
Blessings & Happy cycling @louis scott
My cycling journey started in the year 2000 & my 1st tester bike was a steel framed Red in color Bianchi. That test ride was unbelievable, and I'll never forget the acceleration when I stomped the pedals. I wanted to purchase the bike but it was a size 54 & I'm 6 ft tall. The guys said if I bought this bike I would suffer after 30 mins of riding, so I passed on buying it. Like the saying goes, steel is real & hopefully I'll decide to buy a 56 CM steel frame bike in the future 🚴🏾♂️🔥
Here is to you finding one the fits Dwayne👍🏾
Love the Video! I own a Cervelo R2 which I would consider my all arounder! It climbs like a Billy Goat and excels tremendously when any effort is put into the cranks. However, my steel frame Trek Elance is my go to for a more enjoyable ride. Yes! I can get it up to speed, but it’s a more gradual process. Once its in forward motion look out, but getting there is a process. I’m quite reluctant to take it on fast group rides because I’m guaranteed to get dropped, so the Cervelo is always first choice for group events. I can give longer pulls and expend far less energy. With that said I could ride the Trek much longer at a more moderate pace. 😊
Sounds about right!
Your production is on point!
I’ve found my perfect setup which is my 1991 Diamondback Master TG
Full steel but oversized tubing so a heck of a lot stiffer, my modern sun m13 wheelset has the box section shape BUT such high quality compared to NOS wheelsets that fit 126mm spacing. I love friction shifting but I know indexing downtube shifters are where it’s at in regards to performance. Slammed QUILL stem I’m a fan of the little flex that comes with them and traditional drop bars. BUT I’ll ALWAYS have modern spd shoes and pedals, modern saddle, and gp 5000 tires those I really won’t compromise with my vintage steel bike builds.
Love Diamondback! Thanks for sharing👍🏾
Luis! Love the Salsa Rasta Flip Offs skewers on the Colnago! I'm still rocking mine after 25+ yrs
Nice catch! I've had these since the 90s. Amazing that they are still functioning👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel I've had to replace the plastic inserts a couple times, Salsa was good enough to send a few
My best all around bike is my 2008 cannondale six13 and this is why, its only about 17 lbs and thats with running aluminum wheels. I can still hit 28+ mph plus it climbs like pogacar is climbing on it not to mention the responsiveness and comfort. my 2023 madone is awesome too but on a day with climbs its the six13.
Hi Michael, the Six13 is a legend! Thanks for sharing👍🏾
Great video! My Favor over in my Cannondale CAAD 13. N
Good choice Erich👍🏾
Nice honest review from a guy who loves steel bikes. Its the same difference for me between my Emonda SL5 Carbon, and Domane SL2 Aluminum... if I chose just one it would be the Emonda.
Thank you Christian👍🏾
Hey there from Palawan, Philippines!
Awesome👋🏾
Hi gidzlopez! Thanks for watching👍🏾
Have had Tarmac S Works SL4, 5, 6, & now Sagan SL7. I had Venge which was fastest on straight w wind...overall best SL7 disc for speed riding...SL6 rim best ripping start/stop segments...most comfortable everyday is S Works McLaren Roubaix, replaced future shock w 2.o Future Shock...Works great....never ride steel again as it fatigues u faster, kills rippped shoulders from 40 yrs heavy lifting, great video, thank u, 6'0,210, Rol T Shark
Thanks for sharing Rol! Youvhad an amazing selection of bikes👍🏾
I was fortunate to get hold of one of my favourite brands, Scott and the Addict. It’s a lovely bike for me and more than I need. I’m slowly replacing its 10 speed to 11 105. Just annoying that the stem is square instead of round lol so mounting my camera is a bit more cumbersome. Really enjoyed the video
Thank you! Swapping stem is a straight forward task👍🏾
Still Lovin’ my cannondale Caad10 black edition and Cannondale synapse 2022 for them long hauls… you can’t go wrong…
Hey Marcus, thanks for sharing! CAAD10 for the win👍🏾
My favorite bike is F.Moser Leader AX, Ultegra R8000 groupset and Campagnolo Scirocco wheels. I have tried Fulcrum Zero wheels but it does not feel right, cheaper Scirocco feels incredible with that frame. Fast on the flat, responsive for climbing and incredible for descents. I have more fun than on Colnago V2R
Awesome Stibra! Thanks for sharing👍🏾
And a BIG good day from us all here in Ireland Luis we are really looking forward to this video to answer many questions we have Sir.2;05.yes you have informed us modern top end carbon well made is faster IF you can afford this our little team cannot but our kids love there training and racing on the Caad's Keep safe .
Thanks David and hello to the team. Keep riding those CAAD10s. They are good enough👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel Thank you yes these frames work for us all the time .David's manager haha and Wife.
Great video
Thank you Terrill!
I have two bikes currently a tarmac SL7 and a cinelli vigorelli road bike (steel). I love the steel frame. It’s hard to describe the feeling of lively if you hadn’t felt it before. But the flex and the damping qualities of steel make it such a fun bike to ride. No doubt tho the tarmac rips and would smash the cinelli in a race. But to me the steel bike is more enjoyable to ride. The CF feels it does not have a lot of feed back. I love both bikes they just are different.
Hi Delta. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. You are describing the sensations many steel bike owners feel... it's great👍🏾
I luv, luv, luv my Casati Espresso.
Great bike👍🏾
Mabuhay Luis!
Mabuhay Royal!
Mabuhay! 🇵🇭
🙏🏾Mabuhay my friend👍🏾
Hi Luis i love my cannondale CAAD 6 the riding it so responsive and comfortable i have 4 bike with me Gaint 2024 PROPLE SL & 20243 TCR SL my casati still bike & favorited pegoretti .
Have you tried tubeless? I'm using Schwalbe Pro Ones tubeless 28mm with sealant. I freakin love em. Comfy, fast and no more pinch flats.👍
Hi deus555, not on any of my bikes. I still ride tubular or clincher👍🏾
My favorite bike is my 2020 Spectrum. It has about 4000 miles and has been dependable and trouble-free since I put it in service 2021. Not a lot or riding lately as it has been wet.
Running 30mm tires and 85psi? If you were to go tubeless, you can likely go down to 60-65psi with the corresponding increase in comfort and you wouldn’t have notice the flat until you got home and you saw dried sealant on your bike frame.
Hi Rick! Well done on the Spectrum 👍🏾
11-23 cassette? Yesssssss! Oh by the way, I'm looking for an 11-21 11-speed cassette, Shimano or SRAM!
Hola, en Aliexpress los Chinos están vendiéndo 11/21 tanto en 10 como en 11 velocidades. 😍👍
Good luck with the search. Please let me know where you get one👍🏾
Have you tried deeper wheels? It would be interesting to see what your thoughts are between shallow and deeper wheels on your Colnogo. By deeper I mean 45mm.
Hi Ben. Yes, I rode it with Zipp Firecrest 303/404 for a while and the weight was either 14 pounds or just under that and in certain cituations I did not like the feel. The bike actually feels better with the Mavics. Thanks👍🏾
Rim Brakes all day everyday 👌🏻
And twice on Sundays😂
I have both a V3Rs and a Prestige - just like you. My V3Rs is rim brake too.
I’m really torn between which I prefer. The Prestige - perhaps because of the disc brakes - feels so stiff when accelerating.
Nice stable. I would often tell people that my Presitige felt more racy than the V3rs and they wouldn't buy it😂. Thanks for watching
great video.
Thanks Mike👍🏾
As a former elite road racer in Europe & since a pro mechanic, the Giant TCR Advanced has been a firm favourite with many pro's who've ridden it & over the many years of it's production.
It does all things well & absolutely a great allround performance frame.
Only thing to consider before buying, is it's top tube length which is more favoured to the longer torso/longer arms than average, per height of rider.
I appreciate this insight T Man! Always hear great reports on the TCR... thanks for sharing👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel
You're welcome Luis.
It's also worth noting that Giant are the largest bike manufacturer in the world, with the largest & most technology equipped carbon composite technology.
Every one of their Advanced Carbon frames is hand layered & the company makes frames for many other brands, many of them being other branded top models.
It's also reported they make specialist carbon composite parts for F1 cars.
It would all point to Giant being the leading carbon composite manufacturer in the world, with designers of performance bike frames going back 40years.
I might be wrong, but I think the V3 frames are actually manufactured in Taiwan by Giant.
Imagine the momentum holding with even 35-38mm carbon rims on this ride. Chapeau.
Thanks Mike. I had a set of Zipp firecrest 303/404 and while it accelerated very well, the bike feels more with the Mavics... at 14 pounds with the Zipps, I didn't always enjoy it's high speed behavior. Thanks for sharing👍🏾
Great vid and content as always Luis.. :) could I ask what wheels you run on the Colnago V3rs ? are they Mavic ? Loving my Cannondale CAAD10 in size 52 from 2014.. I also ride a Cannondale SuperSixEvo 2021
Hi Pete! Thank you my friend. On this ride I ran some Mavic Kxyrium anniversary. But I've also ran it with Zipp 303/404👍🏾
@@thegoodwheel awesome thanks I also ride kysium and 303 firecrest 😀👍🚴
Your final words at the end of the video confused me: Be Blessed or Bib-Less? I'm dead🤣😂😅 From St. Lucia
😂😂
HR and power data would have been useful to compare.
No question about that Mister Ray... but I ride without a power meter and sometimes leave the HR strap home. Thanks for sharing👍🏾
Interesting I have number of steel bikes, A Bob Jackson from 1973. Standard 531 tubing. also another Bob Jackson from 1983 with 531c tubing. Chalk and cheese in performance the 1983 is a true race bike shorter wheelbase and a joy to ride. Also a Cinelli Supercorsa with 1983 super record. Again a true race bike its a bit lower in the BB so feels speedier and corners well. I also have a Ribble Nero Corsa carbon from 2015. Again a different machine altogether. Harsh ride from carbon I find, Chorus group with Zonda wheels Michelin Pro tyres. Only advantage of the carbon is 11sp over 7sp for the steel steeds. Always my ride of choice is the 1983 Bob Jackson for a superb ride and it just goes. I am no chicken at 73 but always have a go at the young one as to where the gear lever s should be.
Ha ha, I don't think they could manage the idea of downtube shifting. Thanks for sharing👍🏾
flats suck..here in NYC we just use the Kevlar and try to miss the glass,nails, stones, potholes,etc,etc.
😂 I hear ya Michael👍🏾
You forgot to mention how steel bikes are quiet. Carbon frames and wheels transfer and amplifies sounds
Thanks for sharing Stibra👍🏾
If your cogs are different sizes that’s not a good comparison
Hello from
Broussard Louisiana :)
Question about your tires and inner tubes.. I’ve been running RideNow TPU inner tubes. 36 grams. They have been fantastic. Very inexpensive through Ali Express (about 6 dollars a tube).
Do you run these? Or maybe the Tubalito brand? If not.. give RideNow a try. Cheapest weight reduction you can make lol. You save about two hundred grams of weight using a set.
Take care-
David
Hi David. I either run tubular or clinchers. Haven't tried those yet though. On this ride, I had latex tubes in and they let go very slowly👍🏾
I've not been road riding that long, but I love my Scott Addict RC from 2020. I can just munch the miles on that bike.
Out of interest, what sort of power are you putting out to ride at 27mph in a group?
Hi Simon! I am not sure, I ride without a power meter. Looking at the power from other guys who do this ride, it is between 150 and 200... but couldn't be certain 👍🏾
For me its Colnago. Its a 10 S Aluminium the advantage i have with my bike I can remove my 53 chainring and replace it with 56 t and i can see the diff in acceleration compared to 53 t. I used zipp 404 tubular.
Sounds like a rocket Rhoel. Thanks for sharing👍🏾
There is a ride in Vanouver ,bc every sunday and its a fast ride and I always get dropped. One day I said i will be drop anyway why don't i use 56 and see what happen? Well that is when i realized that is psychological bec i did not get dropped. I also used a 170 mm cranked it helps alot to bridge a gap fr sudden accelaration.
@@rhoelalvarez7208 it's good that you went back with a plan👍🏾
From chile 🇨🇱✌🏿
Saludos Mike👊🏾
Carbon rules!!!
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How tall are you and what’s your inseam?
Do you feel the extra speed is coming from the frame stiffness or something else? (Wheels?)
Hi there. I think it is the efficiency of the frame. Components and wheelsets are very similar. There is a difference in weight of about 1.5 to 2 pounds. When you ride them back-to-back, you can feel it.
1:33 👏👍
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All I ride is All Carbon road bikes from Trek, Domane I rode for 10 years had no problems at all, I did the not have any problems, 17 pounds, I put extra stuff on the bike to blink it out. I hurt my back and gifted it out to a 16 Year old, who was into cycling, Now I have a electric beach comer bike at age 68, and it is fun but I miss going 30 miles an hour, and clinging up hills for fun, I:m Not Done Cycling is what my Heart is telling Me, So Today, March 15, 2013 I will start saving up for One more Road Bike, to go out with my boots on as they say.
Ex-Marine William Clark from Santa Rosa
No such thing as an ex MARINE! Salute to you Sir, and thank you for your service.
You are Fit to Fight and I am happy to hear you getting back on the horse👍🏾
4:40 Tri guy using aero bars on a group ride....naughty boy.
Could be a guy the group is passing. Was a big Tri weekend here in SoFlo. Maybe on a recovery ride after his race.
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Notice he’s off to the side not in the pack. As long as your not within the group my opinion should be ok (or pulling)
11-23 sweeeeet
Indeed👍🏾
That guy with red shirts seem like is sitting on a to small frame bike. You spend less energy because you are on a aero bike and sitting middle of the bunch.. It's a flat road. Ride save
We shout "FLAT".
To answer your question. My overall bike is my Bianchi 928L, I have ridden a Scott Foil. It's faster than the Bianchi. But the Bianchi can climb and can also keep the speed when I have deeper mm wheels beneath it.
Thanks for sharing Aldrin👍🏾
Bianchi 928 is good bike
@@thegoodwheel no doubt lol 🤣
Of course you are going to be a lot faster on a V3RS--it automatically releases your Inner Pogacar!
Seriously! We ride the same frame size and our fit set up is almost identical... So Yeah😁
size 48-50? You must be a lot smaller than you look. How tall are you? 5'5" ?
Colnago's measure the seat tube length for size so it is not comparable to other makes. For reference, I ride a traditional 54-55 and I am 5'10
Those wheels are very slow. I had them in the past not durable. Very wide spokes and large nipples that crack the rims, lots of drag. Wheels make the big difference.
Very slow?! These are some of the best wheels I have ever owned. The bike is more stable than when I had a set of Zipp Firecrest mounted.
I understand it is not keeping with the trend but these are fine. Thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍🏾