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You know, the way you talk about apologizing and forgiveness, it makes me want to see your opinions on certain scenes from the anime/manga One Piece... But that's a pretty lengthy series, so it'd be a huge time investment to talk about even one scene from it. For what it's worth, if you're genuinely curious, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the character of Nami forgiving the character of Jimbei for his actions and how they ended up affecting her growing up. To truly get the full picture of what's at play here, though, you'll need to read/watch the Arlong Park arc (chapters 69-95, episodes 31-44), the Sabaody Archipelago arc (chapters 490-513, episodes 385-405), and the Fishman Island arc (chapters 603-653, episodes 523-541 and 543-574), the last of which is when the actual "forgiving" takes place. I'd be really curious to hear your thoughts on it, should you actually choose to look into it.
The way that Bruno immediately apologized to Mirabel after raising his voice at her to get her attention gives me the impression that he's been yelled at a lot in his life.
@@nexus9ball he is stuttering and stumbling in real time, she hears him in the walls, not the delivery of his prophecies from 10 years ago, but he was definitely nervous about the prophecies
Bruno was feared and misunderstood even by his own family honestly I was expecting Bruno to actually be evil because of how he was treated but instead he was a man who still loved his family
Frankly I'm glad they didn't make him a villain. I personally like it more when the conflict, isn't some mustache twirling Evil Person. But that it's something more real and relatable for people. They lampshade his mustache villainy on purpose though, to subvert it later.
One of my favorite scenes with Bruno is at the end. He’s spent 10 years staying hidden, mentions he’s afraid to confront his mother… But when he thinks his niece is being accused and attacked like he was, he comes out, fully ready to lay into Abuela. Granted, the reconciliation has already happened with Mirabel but I think it really drives home how much he loves his family. Protecting his niece is one thing more powerful than his fear.
YES THIS! He's so hurt and scared but his love for his family and drive to protect Mirabel from the same suffering overpowers his fear. He's ready to take the emotional bullet, to become the scapegoat again to prevent it happening to his niece. The movie may largely gloss over that scene but i will NOT it is so selfless and meaningful and man it gets me
It's especially true when you look at his actions in the last ten years for Bruno. Everything he did was to basically protect Mirabel from being treated WORSE than she already was, and it was because he couldn't stomach the idea of someone else being treated as badly as he was and not doing anything about it.
The power of love is Bruno's core motivation and I love that they did that for a male character. Usually that's something given to women in fiction, but in reality men can and do love their families deeply and it can totally be their core motivator, like with Bruno.
I love this comment and all the others in this thread so far. I'm encouraged to read of you that see the beauty in Bruno's character and desire to protect his family. This is such a well-made film, and I'm glad it's blessing those that are awakened to true love.
One of the things I think is very heartbreaking about Bruno, is that living in the walls like he was, he could still HEAR them talking crap about him, and vilifying him, for YEARS. So having constant negative reinforcement of how it's all his fault. That twisting of the knife, over and over, for what, a decade? That's just unreal.
@@GeorgiaDow Yep, just makes the emotional tyranny of Abuela that much more hurtful, when you think how all encompassing, and persistent it was, for so long.
Bruno says “sana sana colita de rana” at one point and that’s actually something that our mothers tell us when we get hurt! They rub where we are hurting and say sana sana colita de rana and kiss it then we feel better! And in this scene I think Bruno is actually saying it towards the cracks of casita because casita is hurt! I think it’s a sweet little detail lol :)
A little character thing I like is that it's obvious that even after getting his gift, Antonio still idolises Mirabel - he wants to be like HER. He's already using his gift to join her in her role as caretaker, from passing his stuffed toy to Bruno and offering the use of his bedroom as a vision cave, to being the one that tosses Luisa into the hammock at the end to give her a break. Because of how encouraging she was to him, how brave she was in being there for him when no one else would, it doesn't matter how much cooler everyone's powers are - he looks up to Mirabel as his Role Model.
I love how Antonio does this. Even though Abalua shunned Mirabel for her gifrlessness and saw her as a burden and bad omen. Growing up seeing this and still picking Mirabel to lean on and look up to just shows so much and probably gives Mirabel so much. Even if Antonio doesn't realize how much it means to her
I LOVED how he wanted her to walk him to the door. It felt like she is his rock! He sees her as his awesome big sis who is there. The others see her as someone who gets in the way. Antonio sees Mirabel as the person who is guiding him to a good place. She helps him where she can, so he decides to help her.
I saw the time when Bruno yelled a little different. As a kid who was yelled at growing up, I saw the same "oh shit" in him I did the first time I yelled at my kid. He knows how it feels to be yelled at by his mother that he freaked out in seeing that come out of him and he didn't want to hurt Mirabel like that.
Abselutely I hate when I see/hear people yelling at their kids or other people over the smallest things I understand the need to raise your vioce inorder for them to hear because sometimes they tune out others when they are having fun but there is a difference and Bruno used the "snap out of it yell" but felt bad because he asosiate yelling with angry even though this was one of the times it was actually needed inorder to help Mirabel come back to her sences
Yep. In a movie where the core theme is generational trauma, that moment was so important. It showed that even though Bruno is generally a timid and soft spoken person and tries to break that cycle, he still struggles with that trauma from how he was raised like everyone else in the family.
It's important to understand neither Mirabel or Bruno want an apology. They just want to be part of their family. Abuela's apologies are more about her growth, then theirs.
His power was heavily misunderstood from the beginning. I think his powers represent what COULD happen if a certain person continues to go down the path they’re on, but his visions don’t have to happen if the person changes things in their life. He was pushed aside because he wasn’t telling people what they wanted to hear, and they didn’t wanna admit what they were doing was maybe wrong and refused to change themselves.
Bruno mentions that the vision of Mirabel was the first one he ever saw that was "unclear," and I think that's because Mirabel is the first person he ever had a vision about that ever actively fought a vision and made an effort to change it after seeing it. Everyone else was resigned to fate and never made any attempt to chage fate, so it remained unchangeable.
Long story short, I'm a seer in a live Roleplay game and people are hesitant to trust me because I'm a devil. This means alot of my time (when not bringing people back to life because of stupid choiceses and a chair) is spend on telling peoples fortune, I can't count on two hands where i've "predicted" things that could happen and people got annoyed because "But I don't wanna be the mother of the fighters guild, I should be the father look at how big and strong I am" completely missing the point that while they are male they are also the stable, caring and down to earth one while the "female" (long story) one who got predicted to be the "fatherly one" Is bat-S***-crazy and carry alot of the burden of protecting and fighting most of the time. So to boil it down, people WILL be angry at those who see the future no matter what they tell them because it will never be right
I think it's the other way around... His prophecies are PRECIESLY accurate, but show very little info, just little snapshots. What they get wrong is what happens before and after the prophecy... Maybe the fish was always doomed to die, but could have had a longer life until its death if it was cared for better. Maybe the preist was always going to be bald, but maybe only for a day because he shaved it for some reason, but his worrying made him bald faster. Idk. I think people just dropped all agency in the situation once they heard the prophesy instead of continuing to act as non-passive participants. The mirabel prophesy was precisely accurate... The state of the house would change between normal and cracked, and that situation will involve Mirabel. That's all he saw. He KNEW people would jump to conclusions so he hid it. He know it was GOING to happen, but that the context was up to guesswork. "Mirabel standing in front of a cracked house" doesn't mean "Mirabel caused damage to the house", it just means "mirabel is standing in front of a cracked house", and he knew that.
For most of the film, Abuela only really talks to Pepa to point out she has a cloud; even as an adult, she's being scolded for not controlling her emotions by her mother, and that's their whole relationship. It's awful. So I bet her childhood was even worse. Pepa turning on Bruno and being mad at him is really sad, but it has big "you got me into trouble!" energy to me, with her anger displaced. Her husband is so great because he NEVER points out the cloud business, he only tries to help her work through her emotions and embrace them (that man is a joy, the dads are so great). Encanto is one big story about generational trauma and how one generation going through something horrible can then wind up damaging the next despite their good intentions, because they want so badly for that next generation to never go through what they did, pushing them too hard to be perfect to avoid it.
I don't see it as scolding though. The tone Abuela uses- it's always a warning. I have to wonder if something really really bad happened and it started with a cloud. So for both Abuela and Pepa, it's more of a "Hey, you have the start of a bad thing. Don't let it get there." because Pepa does acknowledge several times that she has one.
@@DarkLadyPhoenix A warning, yes, because she wouldn't want to embarrass the family, would she? There are expectations to meet. A warning to remind of a thousand lectures and corrections in the past. It would always have started with a cloud, as that's how Pepa's power works, and her catastrophising (a family trait they all share) just before "We don't talk about Bruno" lays out the rest of what Abuela Alma doesn't say. When someone is constantly critical of another they don't have to bring out the whole lecture every time. That warning tone and some well-practiced phrase becomes enough to recall a long history of corrections about a specific issue. Pepa's reaction, very quickly explaining herself in a way that shifts blame, backs this up. "What do you want from me, when I am already trying to solve the problem someone else caused?" Everyone in the family is nervous, rushing around for the final touches, and worried the ceremony won't work. Of course Pepa has a cloud. "You have a cloud" could have been said with concern or in a questioning way, to ask what is wrong and offer help or guidance. It could have been said in a neutral way to bring attention to it as a priority. Movies are pretty condensed, and these early scenes are meant to lay a foundation that supports the climax of the film where Alma has been hurting her family by being too much of a perfectionist and putting too much pressure on her kids and grandkids. Bruno is living in a wall and Luisa is about to have a sobbing breakdown. I think we can safely interpret that scene in a negative way.
I don't see how nobody stopped to think about Bruno telling Pepa it looked like it might rain on her wedding day wasn't even him prophesying that it would rain. He probably just saw that she was looking nervous and so what normally happened every time she became nervous or stressed? It would rain. Sad how over a decade later she still blames him for having to get married in a hurricane.
I noticed this in the "We don't talk about Bruno"-song, but wanted to wait for you Bruno-video to share it. Most of the family members singing about Bruno, are from Pepa's side of the family, and then Isabela from Julieta's side, and it all fits quite well with their characters and their relationships. Also the "absent" ones. Pepa is the more emotional of the triplets, shown with the weather, and she remembers the bad prophecies from Bruno, and even attributes the situation at her wedding to a prophecy and malice from his part, even though he tried being a caring brother. Also, upsetting Pepa has some more noticeable and immediate consequences, as it could lead to a hurricane. Dolores, old enough to have somewhat clear memories of Bruno, could also always hear him, shows sympathy in the song, and also tries to explain his dilemma to Mirabel. This is even though she also got a negative prophecy about her lovelife from Bruno. Camilo, only slightly older than Mirabel and therefore with basically no recollection of Bruno, really shows how the only thing he knows about Bruno is his bad reputation, and seems to have a demonized image of Bruno, as Bruno is no where near 7 feet tall. Then there's Julieta's side of the family, where only Isabela sings. She does, in theory, sing about a good prophecy, but doesn't like Bruno because she thinks it was all a lie from her current stand point (as we learn when Mirabel goes to her room, and the song "What else can I do"). Otherwise, she still has her "perfect"-mask on with a smug smile. The only other negative thing Julieta's side of the family says about Bruno in the entire movie is Julieta herself saying that he lost his way in the family, and she mostly says it, because she's scared that Mirabel will be ostracized too. But this makes sense too, since Julieta is the healer of the family! She probably hasn't talked as negatively about Bruno to her children compared to Pepa, so it makes sense that they would be less likely to talk about him. Thank you for your time with my wall of text. This got me excited ^^
One reason why Camilo may think Bruno is 7 feet tall is that, to a very small child, adults look very tall. Since Camilo didn't grow up around Bruno, the Bruno in his memories would continue to be tall even as Camilo grew up. It's like revisiting a place you hadn't been to since you were very small; the rooms are always much smaller than you remember simply because you are now bigger.
"He told me my fish would die, the next day, dead!" That entire section of the townsfolk talking about these prophecies he gave fail to mention the fact that he has to choose to see a vision, and from what we've seen, he chooses to see these visions when people need them. So all these "terrible prophecies" were almost certainly brought about because these people _asked_ him to look into their futures. He isn't just bringing bad news, he's bringing news they asked about, and it just so happens to be bad the majority of the time, probably because there are signs that make them want to check with him about it.
The way I've interpreted Pepa's "we don't talk about Bruno" is that she just misses her brother. She's the one that needs to control her emotions, and I feel like she never wants to talk about anything that would make her emotional, like her brother running away, so that it's easier to bottle up her emotions.
"...Bruno comes in with a mischievous grin" I've been thinking about this part of the song A LOT because I think it was a massive misunderstanding. I think the true tale was Bruno was so happy she was getting married and said "looks like rain" when he started to get teary eyed? Because why else would he arrive and be grinning about announcing a storm coming? She probably misunderstood his happiness and got so stressed out she created a hurricane. She would've thought he was carrying a vision with him instead of simply being happy.
Well, in the end song he said "it wasn´t a prophecy, I just saw that you were sweating, and I wanted you to know, that your bro loves you so..." It wasn´t meant to upset her, but he wanted to tell her that it´s OK for her to feel nervous on her big day (and make it rain because of it), that she doesn´t need to hold it in. He just doesn´t have the best social skills, so... maybe it came out a little wrong.
@@veronikamajerova4564 I agree. That part in the end was a bit hard to understand so many might have missed it. In my interpretation Bruno‘s true nature is a bit of a jokester and he was younger back when Pepa got married so maybe was not repressing it as much at the time. I think he tried to mock her a bit and was actually being a bit mischievous telling her it looks like rain to point out her sweating in kind of a joking brotherly way.
@@veronikamajerova4564 Yes!! Also, after their casita was rebuilt you could see Pepa dancing in her rain cloud and Bruno was just meaning that it is okay to embrace that part of herself.
He said at the end that it was a joke because he saw her sweating with nervousness. He was trying to lighten the mood. So the grin was probably smirking at the joke and smiling that it should be a happy day.
Me, watching this first thing in the morning with a tub of ice cream: "I AM mental health-" Edit to add: the scene with Bruno's "seat at the table" makes me tear up every time, especially when he says "my Gift wasn't helping the family, but I love my family" it's heartbreaking that he believes the only way his family could want him around is if he was useful to them
Bruno is a really good example of how humans are very bad to distinguish correlation and causation. Just because Bruno sees something happening he is not the cause of it. But the correlation he has to bad events makes him connected to those events even though he is not the cause of them. Correlations are so much easier to work with and in nature are sufficient to survive. But for our complicated modern world correlations are just not enough, you need to know the cause to really understand something and act accordingly. I also really like the idea that the powers of the candle are chosen deliberately. Julieta is there to heal the physical pain of the past. Pepa is there to heal the emotional pain of the present. Making it clear for everyone to see when something is wrong in the house madrigal due to the bad weather she causes. That makes the people of the town check on them, so they can offer to help. And Bruno was supposed the prepare for the pain of the future, therefore mostly having negative visions. But by abandoning Bruno the family basically abandoned the future and slowly the magic faded. th-cam.com/video/69IZQfyIEu0/w-d-xo.html
@@GeorgiaDow I t's really interesting how sometimes even if you intellectually know that something does not cause another thing it still affects your brain. I once had a bacterial infection and after I ate some fries I had to throw up very badly. Later I took some antibiotics everything was fine again but my stomach still felt sick when I tried to eat fries the next time. Even though I knew the bacteria was causing it and I knew it was gone I still had a physical reaction because of the correlation of eating fries and having to throw up.
I recommend checking out the video, "The Backwater Gospel". It basically demonstrates the misunderstanding that the reaper, or The Undertaker in this case, is the cause of death wherever he goes. I should warn you that it is very dark and not for the faint of heart.
I love how that lady said that her fish would die the next day and she pulls out a fish bowl because it’s one of the worst types of homes you could give to a fish without the proper equipment to keep the fish healthy.
As a person who prefers someone show me they're sorry than tell me they're sorry, I felt fine with Abuela's version of an apology. Her hug spoke volumes and her arc ends in her actively trying to change and make amends for her past behaviors.
I trust nothing unless the actions prove the words are real. Lived with a parent who undercut praise with behind the back criticism and whose verbal apologies can't be trusted because they're backhanded ways of blaming the victim. It was nice to see a character take nonverbal ownership of their responsibility and work to fix the damage instead of shortchanging the journey via a 'now I apologized so it's obviously all better' scenario. This movie was really great, imo, for the number of psychological nuances covered; hopefully it turns into a series that's as well done.
I feel like Bruno really was done dirty. I don't think a single person ever apologised to him (on screen, who knows what conversations they had off screen), and even after Mirabel pushed him into having another vision she then immediately rejected it because she hadn't yet worked through her issues with Isabella. I know Bruno's reaction to that rejection was played for laughs, but just imagine how incredibly hurtful that must have been for him. Darn it, this film will make me cry over and over again, Bruno's whole situation just makes me hurt.
What makes it worse for me is that Bruno's fear of his visions and how they've been received in the past really shines through during the second vision, where he says "It's just the same, I have to stop" - You can *see* how hurt and scared he is. Then he's encouraged to keep going and then *that* prophecy is rejected just like every other one was - Poor Bruno.
To her credit, Maribel doesn't say anything about it being Bruno's fault, she's only angry at the idea of her having to hug her sister. She's not even "I'm not going to try" or "nah, it's all BS because I know she hates me", she's "damn, how I'm going to do this, she hates me, she won't want to hug". So, already preparing herself for the task, basically. Throw a stone who never had this kind of self-talk before a difficult task they feel like they might not complete successfully. She doesn't seem to doubt Bruno's vision, or doubt his words, or be angry at him. She's even both in disbelief ("but she hates me, it won't happen") and being convinced because she sees it as a typical Murphy's law ("OF COURSE it must be her! the most annoying and difficult one!"). It's a stark difference from "he said X and now it's X, that's why we don't talk about it (because it's his fault)".
@@tymondabrowski12 Oh for sure, I'm not trying to say Mirabel is a bad person or anything. She's a literal child (what, like 14? 15?) not getting along with her sister and being told to basically hug and make up. I would for sure have thrown a tantrum way less cute than what she did when I was that age. I still feel bad for Bruno though, that was NOT what he needed to hear from her. A stable adult would obviously just have shrugged her off and not cared, but I think no one can claim Bruno to be stable at that point. I feel so sad for him.
Something neat you may not have noticed, but the only person who doesn't sing negatively about Bruno is Dolores. She says she grew to fear him, implying she didn't at first and that her family imparted that fear upon her as she grew up. Then she acknowledges how hard his gift must be to have, how it was such a heavy and humbling burden, and we get to see Bruno dancing on the balcony in the background. It's done comedically, like, "Oh dang this song about me is fire." But when you notice Dolores is the only one who doesn't sing negatively of him, it makes it entirely possible that he was dancing and paying attention to her song because he hasn't heard his family talk about him in a way that wasn't negative in such a long time.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention from the song "We Don't Talk About Bruno" Dolores' part. She was the only one to buck the trend of crapping on him, but instead tried to give insight on him. After all, she could still hear him talking and muttering as his picture was next to her room. Which means she probably got to tune into all the episodes of his little telenovella.
I thought this at first too but the writers gave a brief comment about what the inside of other rooms would have looked like, and they mentioned specifically for dolores's that it would have definitely included soundproofing. So more than likely she couldn't actually hear him from her room but when she came out of her room in the main hall of Casita
My little sister is nonverbal and autistic and we just...didn't talk about her for a while. Just ignored her rightful outbursts. Which is why when our mom died and we were in medical debt I became overprotective and except our Grannyma and dad and my cousin everyone has forgotten her. My sister and I both learned sign language and shared stuffies and communicated that way. I think my sister is also scared like Bruno to communicate. She and Bruno and even myself sometimes "stim." We have repetitive behaviors to comfort us. Thanks for these vids I was one to comment about not affording therapy atm and your videos are free and therapeutic. Appreciate it. Sorry to rant about my dang life story lol
Bruno coming to save Mirabel at the end may have recked me more than anything. He was so willing to subject himself to the thing he feared the most, his mother's condemnation, in order to protect Mirabel from it. He was literally willing to retraumatize himself which is so brave and loving.
Absolutely agree about Abuela's apology. There's also just something about a non-verbal apology. Like, Abuela could've given a giant speech to Bruno or said "I'm sorry" but it wouldn't have changed anything for Bruno. Being brought back into the family, the hug and all the affection I think work a lot better for him. There's nothing they can change about the past so they might as well just change their entire behaviour towards Bruno and give him the affection he should've been given from the start. ((Also, I think what Abuela said/sang to Bruno in the 'All of you' song also kind of counts as an apology. She's trying.))
Also Bruno doesn't seem like the talking type, from his "*Stares at Mirabel for an uncomftable long time* bye" when they first met to him being all over the place, Hugging, touching and allways going over next to the person(s) he appologices to during his part at the end.
Just a little something. Bruno's not knocking on "anything" as a sort of ritualistic OCD. Here in Latin America you knock, specifically on wood, to ward off "bad omens" or "jinxes", and you'll see he normally does that ritual when ppl say his name, he got to a point that he believes his own name is a jinx
It's not the fact that he knocks on wood, it's the way that he does it that could be a symptom of OCD. He always does it the same way, he doesn't just go "knock on wood" and leaves it at that, but has a whole ritual to it.
the OCD tiks can come from things like this. Like at first you wash your hands because you think they are dirty and then you keep and keep and keep doing it. You go to check if you closed the doors to be safe, but then you keep doing and doing it and it becomes an OCD.
OK, I've now watched Encanto over 20 times, and just tonight, I realized that when Bruno apologizes for the wedding mishap to Pepa. he throws some of his sand in the air like confetti or rice, like a celebrant might at a wedding. Not only has he given her a verbal apology, he's trying to make it up to her by recreating a small piece of the day in a more bright and celebratory environment. He even dances with her, and hugs Felix tightly! Then, before he throws the "rice" he makes sure Pepa is in Felix's arms, like she would have been just after they were married! It's clear he loves them VERY deeply.
Honestly one thing I love is how socially inept Bruno is without being always made fun for it or evil. I'm used to people always presenting this sort of characters as villains and just comic relief with no emotions so it's nice to actually see a character who has this problem and is just... A sweet person.
I don't even know if you mentioned this, but it's an interesting thing to remember that during "We don't talk about Bruno", Bruno is listening. He's in the walls, he knows what's going on.
Another example of Bruno's superstitious/ocd behavior is when Bruno is about to read Mirabel's future and says he can do this, he throws salt over his shoulder. It's meant to ward evil spirits or the devil away.
I have 2 things to say: 1 - I love that you get emotional in those videos. Most therapists I know try to keep the serious and collected persona, probably to show they are professionals, but seeing you get emotional kinda gives me permission to feel emotional too (and I got emotional a lot of times with this movie). I feel it is not silly to feel that way just because it is a cartoon. 2 - I think you should do a video on Abuela now. A lot of people ( me included, I admit) see her as the movie villain, as it were her demands and expectations that drove the family apart, but talking to one of my friend she opened my eyes to the fact that she was a very recent widow without family having to care for 3 children. I think that would be a good video.
I would say she's more of an antagonist than a villain. Her views and actions get in the way of Mirabel and the main goal, but she never has truly cruel, selfish, or bad intentions.
Thank you Bruno for appreciating my emotionality I am happy it gave you permission for your own. And I think I may do abuela as well I will have to see =)
Bruno is definitely my favourite character in Encanto, which is now my favourite Disney movie. Encanto just hit differently for me and I was able to relate to so many aspects of the movie. I find I really relate to Bruno's character in specific ways. I think Bruno would have some sort of complex trauma from growing up ostracised from the community and family and being blamed for things out of his control, doing his visions seemed to be especially traumatic for him. I have complex PTSD due to childhood trauma, part of it was from always feeling the blame for things I didn't do. I also have severe anxiety and difficulty connecting or being around people, like Bruno. Bruno is also extremely empathetic, to his own detriment, which I relate to. I would sooner harm myself than cause hurt to someone else, even if it's their fault, just like Bruno. It was so refreshing to see a mentally unstable character portrayed in a movie without them being the villain or just the weird and annoying comic relief, I found Bruno to be the kindest and most lovable character out of all the Madrigals.
I think poor Bruno definitely got a bad rap, and since the Madrigal family is some kind of monolithic structure of the village, once he established a jinxed reputation within the family, the villagers kind of looked to add their own misfortunate encounters to his cursed reputation. Sort of like a feedback loop, or confirmation bias. Once the trend setting family set the standard that Bruno was no good, the rest of the village rushed to make their interactions, limited as they were, portray him in a negative light, despite how outlandish it is to think he had any control over the outcome. A guy's weight and another guy's hairline? Really? It's also telling that once Abuela signals that it's okay to take him back into the fold, the rest of them are quick to embrace him. For being the boogeyman he was portrayed as for the entire movie, his family is quick to embrace him and even the villagers seem to lose all hesitation. Maybe I'm looking too deeply into it, but it almost seems like some sort of mob mentality, where general acceptance can be changed on a whim based on the cues of the leader. To me, that also helps explain how Bruno feels that he needs to be the one to apologize to everyone, and no one felt the need to apologize to him; HE was other-ized, so despite the fact that he was the one who was wronged, it was him who was ostracized from their society, and he alone bears responsibility for his side in their (imagined) conflict, whereas the entire family and village all share responsibility in their side, so none of them feel personally responsible. "What do you mean, my fault? Everyone else, even abuela blamed Bruno for his curse, how can you blame just me for thinking his curse killed my goldfish?" I'm glad things turned out well for him in the end, but I would have liked to have seen his apology tour in the end song be a speed montage of everyone who accused him apologizing to him, instead.
This also shows a problem with small communities because one bad rumor or thing can make the entire community turn your back on that person even tho either the rumor isn't true and some misinterpreted it or the rumor is true but it's not as evil or horrendous as people made it out to be.
I might be wrong, but to me Pepa's recentment towards bruno feels like its coming from a place of regret that she couldnt patch things with Bruno even though she clearly cared about her brother, she has told herself this wedding tale so many times in her head to justify not caring for his leaving or at least try to not care, but if she didnt clouds wouldnt appear over her head every time his name is mentioned. One of the things that leads me to say this is the scene where Abuela presents his return to the family, even thou Pepa is slightly behind Julieta, she's the first to reach Bruno for a hug. Another thing id like to believe is that Bruno actually really knows his sister, Throughout the movie it can be seen that Pepa's Clouds/Rain can be a result of happy feelings(Antonio's ceremony, and the last scene where she's dancing with Felix), and when he said "it looks like rain", he wasnt mentioning the bad kind of rain(even thou by the end they justify it as sweat).
@@EtamirTheDemiDeer I read somewhere that the line "no rain allowed" from felix was a warning from abuela. Because there no way that a line like that came from Felix, he's too good of an husband.
The rain cloud during Antonios ceremony could be because she is sad to see him grow up, especially when you see Felix shoo the cloud away. plus stormy and rain weather is often related to when she has negative emotions in the beginning, Worry = Hurricane and such. Now everytime Bruno gets mentioned she creates a rain cloud not a thunder cloud that happens when shes worked up, that means she gets sad when Bruno is mentioned so i think you hit bullseye with that one
Being this person sucks, and unfortunately, many families never realize that they did this to someone. They honestly believe that everything is that person's fault and never actually change that belief. Sometimes, some parts of the problems are that person's fault, because not everything is as cut and dry as a Disney movie, and that makes it even easier to demonize someone.
This. I've so often had people who hurt me say sorry, and it basically means nothing to me. Doing some sort of action that's the opposite of what you did to hurt me, that's what a real apology is to me.
I think Komi-San can’t communicate is something you’d like: a show about a shy girl with social anxiety who tries to make 100 friends, and meets eccentric characters as she grows up. I’d love to see your perspective on these social disorders/behaviors. Great content btw!
I'm autistic and estranged from my mom and I saw a lot of myself in Bruno. First of all the way people (especially Pepa) misinterpret what he says and build up resentment against him because of what they perceive his intentions to be. But also his role as a "truth teller" in the family. I got a lot of negative attention because I would speak truths about our family system that people weren't ready to hear. Like Bruno, I never intended to hurt anyone with my actions or words. I just had people read hostility into my words because of my (lack of) tone or because of what I was saying. I wouldn't be surprised if Bruno was also autistic and struggling with his tone while delivering bad news, or saying things that others weren't ready to hear.
He is authistic, I also have mild Asperger Syndrom myself. I am not brutally honest but I can be shy, do not look at eyes and are attracted to topics other people dont like
In Encanto, Bruno is a classic type example of many communities to taboonized something that you don’t want to admit to talking about because it is not considered appropriate, but still talk a lot and all time even though everyone denies their talk. But because Bruno is a person, this rejection, exclusion and discrimination will certainly hurt a lot - as in the cases such as this, the taboonizing practiced by the community in general. And my apologies, because I couldn't find the right word so I had to come up with a new one for the taboonization.
My theory was that Bruno's belief in bad luck gives him something to blame other than himself- somewhere in his head, it makes the bad things that happen NOT his fault. He's afraid that everyone will blame him, but I don't think HE blames himself. I think he's coping by blaming the bad luck as a sort of placeholder.
Bruno's experiences are basically a supervillain origin story, but despite BEING vilified, his default is compassion. He thought he was helping. He WANTED to help (just like Mirabel). There was no malice in any of the predictions he made, he thought he was helping by telling the truth. He could have lied about what he saw, but that would have COMPLETELY backfired because his family would see him as unreliable or a liar. Literally, 'damned if you do, damned if you don't." He took ALL of what was thrown at him without holding any grudges. I think Bruno's a pretty solid example of unconditional love.
We all have a Bruno in our family... a "designated patient" responsible for everything wrong wether it's deserved or not. Being that person, to feel responsible for all that goes wrong can destroy you. After awhile, you just give up and leave or you might go insane. And when that person leaves, that role falls to someone else. There's always a scapegoat because it's easier than actually do some introspection and work to solve the issues at their origins.
Another thing about Bruno doing all these bad luck avoidance things is that prophecy and superstition go hand in hand. His gift is prophecy, being superstitious comes as naturally as breathing.
Loved this, and though I also believe Abuela definetly needed to apologise to Bruno, in that particular moment, she was emotionally raw from reliving her trauma of losing Pedro and deeply apologizing to Mirabel, that the hug worked and anything that needed to be said can be off screen. Plus, for Abuela, after that apology and healing, to have the son she thought was lost and gone for so long come back, its likely proof to her that this is exactly what the family needed in order to heal
Her apology being non-verbal was brilliant because here we have this matriarch character who has been stoic and aloof the entire movie suddenly we see her run right to him and hold him as close and as tight as she can because she is just so damn afraid of losing her son again. You can tell shes genuinely happy to see him and because of her conversation with Mirabel in the previous scene, she is finally able to be emotionally vulnerable with people and emotionally honest with herself.
I went into this movie knowing the entire world had been identifying with certain characters and as they all "didn't" talk about Bruno, I could feel that straight away and lone and behold once we finally saw Bruno, that's who I identified with. When I tried explaining that to my partner she didn't understand and couldn't see how I could feel that way. She thought I was a lot more like Pepa, very emotional and struggling to control my emotions. She event mentioned "You also say the phrase she does of "Im doing my best, I don't know what you want from me!" as you exit a room. We talked about it again later and after reflecting on her words I mentioned I could see what she means and that for our family, with our kids, our relationship, Im definitely Pepa. But what I meant was is that I identified as Bruno within my childhood family and my parents. I was always misunderstood. Every word or action was misinterpreted. I was always made out as "bad". People would deliberately not talk to me and avoid me because I was a "problem". Even into adulthood they always were convinced I had the worst intentions, or that I just "don't know better". Something that I've come to realize as I've been self exploring my childhood trauma and learning new coping techniques and communication techniques. Is despite me pointing all that out I was still met with "well maybe some of it matches, but not all of it." and even when I mentioned "Well, you weren't there. There is a lot you didn't see, or hear, or feel, or live with that I did. And I can't express all of that, I can't say all of it. In some ways because its too hard, and in others because I don't have a memory of it, but I still have the feeling that came from that forgotten memory. My body hasn't forgot how that felt." When people open up and share why they feel a certain way people really need to stop trying to tell me their feeling isn't accurate. They're my feelings and Im telling you what they are. Just accept them and validate them. Why does it become so important to the listener to change my feelings?
Well said 💯 I had to make changes every few years to better cope, and a lot of memories have delay/are impossibly hard to grasp so when I do remember/a strong feeling resonates, I know. But I’m often gaslit and written off, so I get super triggered when I feel invalidated. I can understand where the other person is coming from/what their intentions are, but whew- too many days I feel set to implode. Stuck with those who want validation but refuse to do the same in return. Like, what do you stand to lose from doing so? Treating others the way you want to be treated…why does it not register as the default? Or…I suppose they see it as diminishing their perceived “value?”
God, I ache to give Bruno a hug. When he tells Mirabel that he doesn't know to help his family, but he loves them, so he stayed. That's just utterly heartbreaking.
I am on the Autism spectrum and I often find myself the butt of jokes in my family (mostly on my dad's side) and I identified with Bruno a little bit because I have similar anxious behaviours to him and I feel like an outcast, not just outside but also at home
I have adhd and another disorder I won’t put out there on the web and I grew up being the scapegoat in my family and was regularly bullied at school. Now that I’m an adult and got better at social skills, it feels strange to have people be nice to me and want me to be a part of things. I almost want them to be mean to me because that’s what feels familiar to me
Abuela isn’t just the Matriarch of Bruno’s family though. She’s his mother. She’s giving him the kind of comfort and affection that he hasn’t had since he was a child, because she is just so happy that her child is home. That she hasn’t really lost him forever.
I am just going to mention about one thing that I realized about life and I see it in this movie regarding Bruno's situation. The reason why Bruno had to become an outcast is because everyone in encanto was blaming HIM for their OWN desicions. He just told ppl what's gonna happen but ppl still didn't try to do anything to change their fate and shifted the blame on Bruno. That thing correlates to real life as well since people tend to try toss the responsibility of their bad desicions on another person they've interacted with. I've even done that myself. That behaviour is really toxic because 1) you refuse to make changes in your own behaviour, and 2) having been a victim of that kind of behaviour as well I know that the blamed victim might start to accept that blame and start having an insecurity "oh no, now because of me this person made a wrong desicion and now everything is bad" meanwhile everyone has to take full responsibility for their own desicions.
The thing Bruno does of touching wood actually has to do with a supertiction that exists in some Latinoamerican countries: If someone says something awful or bad, to prevent that to happen you have to touch or knock wood. I think that's the reason why Bruno touches wood constantly, he always has visions about bad things that are gonna happen and in order to prevent that he knocks wood
Maybe it comes from Europe, by colonizers, since it's known in European countries as well. In Poland nowadays you usually don't even knock but just say "odpukać" meaning "[let's] knock it out [on the wood]". For people who don't believe in supersticions it basically means either "I hope it won't happen" or "I hope nothing bad will happen to it" (since before that you can say "Hmm what if it's raining on the wedding day" (but let's hope it won't) or "There should be good weather on the wedding day" (and let's hope it will be exactly that)). Throwing salt behind your shoulder is an older practice, I don't think people do it anymore. Maybe only on weddings, I think it's either salt or rice but it's thrown on the couple, not behind your shoulder. I don't think I've heard about throwing sugar but I guess it has the same meaning, as in, just "bringing good luck". And stepping on cracks in wood brings bad luck which is why he avoids doing so.
@@tymondabrowski12 Salt is supposed to purify things - it's supposed to confuse or drive away evil spirits. Never heard anything about sugar. No salt on the bridal party either - throwing rice & the like is for prosperity.
If anyone paid attention I think that Antonio was called "Tonito" at one point, similar to Abuela called Bruno, "Brunito". It's often how parents speak to their babies. -ito often describes something, or someone, small and cute like our children. Lots of parents have names they give only to their children which demonstrates the unique affection and love that they and only they have for their children. In this case 'Brunito' carries so much weight to both Abuela and Bruno because they both know that with that name she still sees him as her baby. Not much else needs to be said and while he still deserves an apology I think it's a really beautiful moment.
From what is said in the movie, I feel like a lot of the 'we don't talk about Bruno' comes from Abuela. She is the matriarch after all, not only of the family, but the entire village. They did say that she never knew what to make of Bruno. She loved him, but didn't know what to make of his gift... unlike the others it was subtle and easy to confuse and blame. But she still went to him for advice, as when Mirabel didn't get a gift. I feel that she was deeply hurt and confused by Bruno disappearing. But because she is the Matriarch, she can't show weakness, she put it aside. Instead of dealing with her feelings, she put it away and refused to talk about Bruno. And everyone else who takes their cues from Abuela did the same. Even though the family clearly wanted to talk about him, and the younger villagers were curious, it became forbidden to speak about him. When Abuela brought Bruno back she was giving them silent permission, saying he was okay again. And they accepted him back gladly, because they never really hated him. Of all the family, I most related to Bruno, especially his wanting to still be a part of the family, but felt a (literal) wall between them. He wanted it, but felt he couldn't. In my case the wall was figurative... I came from a pretty close knit extended family, but my father removed us from them when I was young. By the time we returned when I was an adult, I had barely seen them and was not a part of their life. There was a (figurative) wall between us where I was 'family', but really a stranger to everyone who didn't belong. Nobody knew how to interact with me, and I didn't know them.
Bruno reminds me of the Pokémon Absol who had a keen sense of detecting danger. Of course, Absol would rush to warn people, but also of course, Absol doesn’t speak in a human tongue. And so, since it arrived right before danger, people associated the Pokémon with danger. They believed Absol was the harbinger of bad things.
What happens when someone who wants to help people, wants to fix their problems and who loves their family get's out casted by them? they become a paranoid, lonely, and mentally scarred individual. :(
4:00 In my culture and in some other cultures when you think of something bad, predict something bad, or just expect the worst; adults and elderly people tell you to knock on wood so you don't jinx it. We knock on wood to prevent bad things from actually happening :D and it's likely that abuela told bruno to knock on wood so he doesn't "cause" bad things to happen.
I found Abuela's apology to be huge precisely because it wasn't verbal. Many people verbally apologize without meaning it, like a toddler repeating words they were told to say because it will bring the desired result. You are taught to say "sorry" and the slate is immediately supposed to blank, even if no real apology was given, no regret is felt and it's likely the hurt might be repeted again. But she gives him a warm welcome and brings him back, meaning it without saying it. People are demeaned because they refuse to accept an apology they think wasn't enough just because an apology was given, so things are supposed to be fine now. And the apology is bigger because we know Abuela doesn't talk about her feelings, neither her hurt of her past or her joy of her family. Abuela isn't a talker, but her words were what caused Mirabel's pain. Words were a great apology for her. Words, however, would feel like an insincere apology for Bruno. Bruno's pain was caused by her actions and inactions, so action is the perfect apology for him.That tight hug is a show of caring that Bruno likely didn't have and deeply craved, then pulls him both toward the town and the family, an undeniable show of wanting him back into the fold. He gets the show from his mother, and the words from his sisters. And isn't that perfect?
I adore that Dolores knew entirely about Bruno still being there and snuck food to him any time she was able to. She understood that Bruno needed his space in the walls and would return to the family when he was able to so she just silently was there for him and supporting him until he was ready to come back to the family. That silent support is probably what kept him from snapping and I'm very happy he had it.
Please tell me theres a video on Abuela coming soon. I feel like too many people forget that her journey of family building started with her losing her husband and having to support 3 babies on top of probably feeling obligated to take care of the villagers in the Encanto as well. Clearly she never got to deal with the lose of Pedro and is probably still dealing with those feelings up until the point that the house is rebuilt and all the rooms possibly change. So many people see her as malicious when she didnt even realize that she could have been hurting her family. People put in those situations (Abuela's) often times end up bearing so much on their shoulders, and I doubt anyone in the Encanto was offering her that much help with her children.
My mother (1923-2008) I realized never vocalized "I love you" to any of her 5 offspring. My dad (1914-1981) was the same. Yet I knew I was loved by both of them. Their actions and support and sometimes scolding or punishments, I knew I had a place with them where I belonged and would give in return. Yet my sister, Thirdgirl needed it to be vocalized because she believes neither one loved her. Abuela doesn't say, "I'm sorry " to Bruno because she was doing what she thought was the best for everyone and was scared because she had no Plan B is the miracle was lost. She pulled him back into the family with the understanding her past behavior was not for the future. Only Mirabel was willing to challenge the status quo along with Antonio. Antonio wasn't afraid to ask for support from his cousin and he wasn't afraid to let his gift warm up Abuela's chair and to lend assistance to Bruno and Mirabel. He even knew not to let his jaguar eat Bruno's rat family.
If I was Bruno. I know I'd be pissed at people singing that song. Like, you have the power, you know the misfortune, and try and warn them about it. But instead of taking your advise and adjusting things to fix it. They just blame you when it happens 'Your fish is going to die' Fish Dies "Bruno killed my fish!" I think Bruno was telling you to feed your dang fish
Regarding Bruno not getting a spoken apology from Abuela, my theory is that the script already showed her character growth when she apologized to Mirabel, and they didn't want to use more screen time to show essentially the same story beat. I think we can safely assume that Abuela's change of heart, combined with the happiness and support of the rest of the family, will ensure that Bruno gets a full, proper apology.
14:17 I was hurt a lot, pressured to be the golden child like Isabella, have good grades, be the best at everything and if I didn’t I would get punished or yelled at, this went on until 2 years ago, My mother wanted to learn more about babies, children, and teens, she finally realized what she did to me as a young child hurt me mentally, she learned for one year and when she finished which was last year, She came up to me in my room, mind you I hated her and my father due to this pressure but felt if I didn’t do what she told me to do and be, I wouldn’t get the love I want and be punished, she came up to me and closed the door behind her and just spelled her heart out about how much she hurt me as a young child, that she regrets it, if she could go back she would fix it, how much it affected her little child as they grew up and this pressure, just her breaking down of how bad of a mother she was and just apologizing to me as she hugged me, I felt this pressure and anxiety just disappear, I finally felt that I didn’t need to do everything perfect for the love, She knew how much I was hurt because I was crying with her, I felt like I can finally be accepted for who I am and not for what I can do, I forgave her and have been healing ever since, it still breaks me down knowing how much my mother grew and realizing what she did was emotionally damaging
It is a really emotional and beautiful moment when Abuela introduced back to the family. It gave me a lump in the throat. I also like Bruno, he seems to be such a sweet and quirky guy. He would be a delight to have him as a uncle!
I love how so far Lin Manuel hasn't made a 'villain' in the movies so far, because the real villains are toxic emotions and values :D. I can't imagine what kind of character he would make if it was intended to be a villain.
11:22 that bit really spoke to me. As I got older and my anxiety grew, I started hiding the part of me that wanted to reach out to people and make friends and have hobbies and “frivolous” interests that wouldn’t serve me in my career pursuits. And it turns out half of it was catastrophizing on my end: when I actually got the courage to open up to my parents about it, they were completely fine with my interests. So I get the “not who you really are” timidness.
I think it's neet that him being protective and standing up for his niece, is the thing that inspired him to finally stand up for himself in the process. I agree that he does actually care what she thinks of him but I think he kind of needed to tell her off.
I’d love to see an analysis on pepa and on isabela! Their problems are similar with having to always act perfect, isa because she’s expected to just *be* perfect , and pepa because for the weather to be ‘good’ she has to have ‘perfect’ feelings. You can see them being the most close aunt and niece/nephew duo because of their similarities, she gives pepa flowers and in we don’t talk about Bruno you see them dancing and holding hands for a second while the table is being set.
I love how he’s portrayed to have big puppy eyes. Animators, especially in Disney, usually put big eyes on female characters, children, and animals. Big eyes tug at peoples heart strings, and I think the intention of giving Bruno big eyes was to convey emotions strongly and show Bruno to the viewers as innocent and a way to get him some sympathy
When he grabbed her arm in the walls I knew they were both gonna be okay. I figured out he was a good guy cause he was running away. But the line “you are very sweaty.” Sealed it.
14:52 I love how Pepa is the first sibling to go and embrace Bruno even tho for years she said that he ruined her wedding just proves how much she still loves her brother and I think that's amazing
Bruno's story is a sad one and I couldn't help but cry too towards the end. He deserves all the love!! I got reallll emotional when discussing how much Bruno sees himself in Mirabel. I agree, I love how in depth you go in his various characteristics,, made my week thank u - I practically jumped out of bed after getting this notif lol
I love how felix says "no cloud allowed in the sky" he (at least to me) try to tell us and mirabel that bruno wasn't to blame its Pepa with her not letting her emotions out /feel them because (let's be honest) abuella "forbid" the emotions
One thing I really love about Bruno is how his 'prophecy' at Pepa's wedding wasn't a prophecy at all, he was just trying to comfort her and tell her it's okay for her to express her emotions. You know the line ''no clouds allowed in the sky?'' Coupled with how Abuela Alma is shown chastising Pepa for having clouds often, I feel like that was literally how it went down during the wedding. Alma might have been judgemental about Felix at first, which would have added to Pepa's pressure to not let her emotions show. What would people think if you weren't the pinnacle of happiness on your wedding day? Which would be why clouds were literally not allowed in the sky. But at the end of the movie there's a scene where Pepa's finally allowed to let loose and she dances happily with a snowing/raining cloud above her. I think this fits with real emotions too. People don't just feel pure happiness, and sometimes extreme emotions (like the kind that might mean hurricanes or snowstorms) might not necessarily mean you're unhappy, or mean something's wrong. It should be okay to have or express emotions that aren't pure happiness, even if there isn't any obvious or logical reason behind them. The fact that Bruno realised that Pepa was uncomfortable and felt pressured trying to keep up the facade, and went over to comfort her about it, is very sweet. I'd like to think all the other things that the townsfolk sung about were just his kind (but badly phrased) advice too. ''Lady, your fish is gonna die if you don't put some plants in the tank'' ''Hey man, you might want to cut back on the carbs there'' ''You shouldn't stress out so much, at this rate you'll lose all your hair!'' Or something to this effect lol
As someone with OCD, it was nice to see this very vague representation. It could just be his superstition, but it’s nice to think of it as representation.
In case with Bruno, people forgot, that "Forewarned is forearmed". I think peopel could use Bruno's predicitons in so many healthy ways. For example, the priest has found out that he was going to go bald - then think what you can do to be attractive in your understanding of attractivness with baldness, so you would be prepered for this. You can save some money for a good wig for example. If Peppa knew there was going to be a rain - then move the whole wedding to the house OR ask everyone to bring umbrelllas with them. Even Luisa could be calmer, because she would knew for sure, when someone or something would attack their family and she would need to step up instead of freaking out every day because of it
I love your comment that not all families are verbal. I think that rings through with a lot of Latin American families (at least in my experience). Apologies are showed with actions, gifts, things you need. Rarely did I get verbal apologies from my dad. But for Abuela, (correct me if I'm wrong) she never gives anyone a hug throughout the movie not even in flashbacks. The most physical affection she gives of for greetings and for "fixing" something "imperfect" for Isabella like the flowers in her hair. So, a hug from her must have been something really special. I would still like to think that Abuela tried to show more physical and verbal love (& apologies) in the future, but it takes time to unlearn :)
I get so mad at Abuela when it comes to Bruno. I know she was afraid things would go bad and people, including her triplets, would die. But being unable to face the idea of things not being perfect, she allowed her family and the entire village to take their frustrations about someone who was telling the truth out on Bruno without ever defending him, when she had the power to protect him from that. Thank you for the explanations here, including pointing out how hesitant he was when giving Mirabel wisdom about the situation and how his dysfunctional role has affected his ability to feel like he can be himself so that he worries about how he’s socializing. It reminds me of my girlfriend who is dealing with being the scapegoat in her family. I appreciate the insight a lot. I hope to see her open up and be able to express herself more because she gets a lot of anxiety when meeting people about what she says and what to do or say, and I know she’s been unable to stand up for herself well and has been the target of some attacks recently due to the fact cruel people target that. Thanks!
Gotta feel bad for Dolores, probably sleepless every night hearing Bruno practice his character impressions lol Honestly though, my first time watching I was actually amazed at how detailed this movie got. It shows that they really put in a lot of attention and care into getting things really accurate and relatable for people.
8:49, I think that it’s also probably the case that Mirabel sees some of herself in her Uncle Bruno as well and that when she comments about “family weirdos” having a bad reputation she’s talking not just about him but also herself since she (because she’s the only one without a gift) is another person like that.
In one of the deleted scenes, Felix and Agustin are the ones talking to Mirabel about Bruno. Felix says that Bruno and Abuela got into an argument, and when he tells her he's going to leave, she tells him he will be considered dead. He retorts that he already is(or rather, wishes). Its heartbreaking.
My head cannon was that the priest went to Bruno to ask if anything bad would happen to the church, Bruno found the worst thing to happen to the church is he loses his hair. It‘a a faulty perspective from focusing on the bad omens or the bad predictions
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He, alongside Mirabel, represents that kind of person who, willy-nilly, ends up mistreated by everyone even for the stupidiest reasons
You know, the way you talk about apologizing and forgiveness, it makes me want to see your opinions on certain scenes from the anime/manga One Piece... But that's a pretty lengthy series, so it'd be a huge time investment to talk about even one scene from it. For what it's worth, if you're genuinely curious, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the character of Nami forgiving the character of Jimbei for his actions and how they ended up affecting her growing up. To truly get the full picture of what's at play here, though, you'll need to read/watch the Arlong Park arc (chapters 69-95, episodes 31-44), the Sabaody Archipelago arc (chapters 490-513, episodes 385-405), and the Fishman Island arc (chapters 603-653, episodes 523-541 and 543-574), the last of which is when the actual "forgiving" takes place. I'd be really curious to hear your thoughts on it, should you actually choose to look into it.
The way that Bruno immediately apologized to Mirabel after raising his voice at her to get her attention gives me the impression that he's been yelled at a lot in his life.
yes for sure
I know that feeling. Maybe that's why I liked Bruno right off the bat because I connected with him.
Especially when you consider Dolores' part about him "stuttering and stumbling" most likely nervous in the delivery of his prophecies.
@@nexus9ball he is stuttering and stumbling in real time, she hears him in the walls, not the delivery of his prophecies from 10 years ago, but he was definitely nervous about the prophecies
Remember his first words to Mirabel: you're very sweaty.
Because using a polite metaphor for sweaty got him in trouble before. 🥺
Bruno was feared and misunderstood even by his own family honestly I was expecting Bruno to actually be evil because of how he was treated but instead he was a man who still loved his family
His dinner table broke my heart into a million little pieces 😭
Frankly I'm glad they didn't make him a villain. I personally like it more when the conflict, isn't some mustache twirling Evil Person. But that it's something more real and relatable for people. They lampshade his mustache villainy on purpose though, to subvert it later.
and had so much love to give. Hard to be misunderstood
@@CarlywithaY90 mine too ╥﹏╥
They also kinda made us expect him to be the villian. Even the color he wears, green, is a color that is associated with Villians in Disney.
One of my favorite scenes with Bruno is at the end. He’s spent 10 years staying hidden, mentions he’s afraid to confront his mother…
But when he thinks his niece is being accused and attacked like he was, he comes out, fully ready to lay into Abuela. Granted, the reconciliation has already happened with Mirabel but I think it really drives home how much he loves his family. Protecting his niece is one thing more powerful than his fear.
YES THIS! He's so hurt and scared but his love for his family and drive to protect Mirabel from the same suffering overpowers his fear. He's ready to take the emotional bullet, to become the scapegoat again to prevent it happening to his niece. The movie may largely gloss over that scene but i will NOT it is so selfless and meaningful and man it gets me
It's especially true when you look at his actions in the last ten years for Bruno. Everything he did was to basically protect Mirabel from being treated WORSE than she already was, and it was because he couldn't stomach the idea of someone else being treated as badly as he was and not doing anything about it.
The power of love is Bruno's core motivation and I love that they did that for a male character. Usually that's something given to women in fiction, but in reality men can and do love their families deeply and it can totally be their core motivator, like with Bruno.
I love this comment and all the others in this thread so far. I'm encouraged to read of you that see the beauty in Bruno's character and desire to protect his family. This is such a well-made film, and I'm glad it's blessing those that are awakened to true love.
One of the things I think is very heartbreaking about Bruno, is that living in the walls like he was, he could still HEAR them talking crap about him, and vilifying him, for YEARS. So having constant negative reinforcement of how it's all his fault. That twisting of the knife, over and over, for what, a decade? That's just unreal.
yes and he still stayed
@@GeorgiaDow Yep, just makes the emotional tyranny of Abuela that much more hurtful, when you think how all encompassing, and persistent it was, for so long.
Bruno says “sana sana colita de rana” at one point and that’s actually something that our mothers tell us when we get hurt! They rub where we are hurting and say sana sana colita de rana and kiss it then we feel better! And in this scene I think Bruno is actually saying it towards the cracks of casita because casita is hurt! I think it’s a sweet little detail lol :)
wow amazing detail thank you
@@GeorgiaDow it translates to "heal, heal, little frog's tail" which is so cute!
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@@lukaestevez6637 it shoots but so fast you don’t hear it even if you know what to listen for. Good ears
A little character thing I like is that it's obvious that even after getting his gift, Antonio still idolises Mirabel - he wants to be like HER. He's already using his gift to join her in her role as caretaker, from passing his stuffed toy to Bruno and offering the use of his bedroom as a vision cave, to being the one that tosses Luisa into the hammock at the end to give her a break. Because of how encouraging she was to him, how brave she was in being there for him when no one else would, it doesn't matter how much cooler everyone's powers are - he looks up to Mirabel as his Role Model.
This is amazing
yes he has taken a lot of her lovely traits. thank you for this analysis
Yes, the way he continued to look up to her was so heartwarming, and one of my favorite parts of the movie.
I love how Antonio does this. Even though Abalua shunned Mirabel for her gifrlessness and saw her as a burden and bad omen. Growing up seeing this and still picking Mirabel to lean on and look up to just shows so much and probably gives Mirabel so much. Even if Antonio doesn't realize how much it means to her
I LOVED how he wanted her to walk him to the door. It felt like she is his rock! He sees her as his awesome big sis who is there. The others see her as someone who gets in the way. Antonio sees Mirabel as the person who is guiding him to a good place. She helps him where she can, so he decides to help her.
I saw the time when Bruno yelled a little different. As a kid who was yelled at growing up, I saw the same "oh shit" in him I did the first time I yelled at my kid. He knows how it feels to be yelled at by his mother that he freaked out in seeing that come out of him and he didn't want to hurt Mirabel like that.
Abselutely I hate when I see/hear people yelling at their kids or other people over the smallest things I understand the need to raise your vioce inorder for them to hear because sometimes they tune out others when they are having fun but there is a difference and Bruno used the "snap out of it yell" but felt bad because he asosiate yelling with angry even though this was one of the times it was actually needed inorder to help Mirabel come back to her sences
@@hefas842 Totally agree. It takes a lot to help you not automatically revert to how you were raised. It is a process.
Yep. In a movie where the core theme is generational trauma, that moment was so important. It showed that even though Bruno is generally a timid and soft spoken person and tries to break that cycle, he still struggles with that trauma from how he was raised like everyone else in the family.
The exact same thing happens when she's visiting him in the wall. She yells and he flinches.
@@ArloMathis ohh good catch
It's important to understand neither Mirabel or Bruno want an apology. They just want to be part of their family. Abuela's apologies are more about her growth, then theirs.
truth
Oh lord..whos cutting onions.
It's so unfair Pepa blaming Bruno for something that Hernando did.
I know, how could she 😤🙄
His power was heavily misunderstood from the beginning. I think his powers represent what COULD happen if a certain person continues to go down the path they’re on, but his visions don’t have to happen if the person changes things in their life. He was pushed aside because he wasn’t telling people what they wanted to hear, and they didn’t wanna admit what they were doing was maybe wrong and refused to change themselves.
i think the same thing.
it happened to me and I don't even have powers lol
it hurts
Bruno mentions that the vision of Mirabel was the first one he ever saw that was "unclear," and I think that's because Mirabel is the first person he ever had a vision about that ever actively fought a vision and made an effort to change it after seeing it. Everyone else was resigned to fate and never made any attempt to chage fate, so it remained unchangeable.
Long story short, I'm a seer in a live Roleplay game and people are hesitant to trust me because I'm a devil.
This means alot of my time (when not bringing people back to life because of stupid choiceses and a chair) is spend on telling peoples fortune, I can't count on two hands where i've "predicted" things that could happen and people got annoyed because "But I don't wanna be the mother of the fighters guild, I should be the father look at how big and strong I am" completely missing the point that while they are male they are also the stable, caring and down to earth one while the "female" (long story) one who got predicted to be the "fatherly one" Is bat-S***-crazy and carry alot of the burden of protecting and fighting most of the time.
So to boil it down, people WILL be angry at those who see the future no matter what they tell them because it will never be right
I think it's the other way around... His prophecies are PRECIESLY accurate, but show very little info, just little snapshots. What they get wrong is what happens before and after the prophecy... Maybe the fish was always doomed to die, but could have had a longer life until its death if it was cared for better. Maybe the preist was always going to be bald, but maybe only for a day because he shaved it for some reason, but his worrying made him bald faster. Idk. I think people just dropped all agency in the situation once they heard the prophesy instead of continuing to act as non-passive participants. The mirabel prophesy was precisely accurate... The state of the house would change between normal and cracked, and that situation will involve Mirabel. That's all he saw. He KNEW people would jump to conclusions so he hid it. He know it was GOING to happen, but that the context was up to guesswork. "Mirabel standing in front of a cracked house" doesn't mean "Mirabel caused damage to the house", it just means "mirabel is standing in front of a cracked house", and he knew that.
Both Bruno and rats are treated with anger and fear due to misunderstanding their gentle and honest nature....
yes good catch
For most of the film, Abuela only really talks to Pepa to point out she has a cloud; even as an adult, she's being scolded for not controlling her emotions by her mother, and that's their whole relationship. It's awful. So I bet her childhood was even worse. Pepa turning on Bruno and being mad at him is really sad, but it has big "you got me into trouble!" energy to me, with her anger displaced. Her husband is so great because he NEVER points out the cloud business, he only tries to help her work through her emotions and embrace them (that man is a joy, the dads are so great). Encanto is one big story about generational trauma and how one generation going through something horrible can then wind up damaging the next despite their good intentions, because they want so badly for that next generation to never go through what they did, pushing them too hard to be perfect to avoid it.
I don't see it as scolding though. The tone Abuela uses- it's always a warning. I have to wonder if something really really bad happened and it started with a cloud. So for both Abuela and Pepa, it's more of a "Hey, you have the start of a bad thing. Don't let it get there." because Pepa does acknowledge several times that she has one.
@@DarkLadyPhoenix A warning, yes, because she wouldn't want to embarrass the family, would she? There are expectations to meet. A warning to remind of a thousand lectures and corrections in the past. It would always have started with a cloud, as that's how Pepa's power works, and her catastrophising (a family trait they all share) just before "We don't talk about Bruno" lays out the rest of what Abuela Alma doesn't say.
When someone is constantly critical of another they don't have to bring out the whole lecture every time. That warning tone and some well-practiced phrase becomes enough to recall a long history of corrections about a specific issue. Pepa's reaction, very quickly explaining herself in a way that shifts blame, backs this up. "What do you want from me, when I am already trying to solve the problem someone else caused?" Everyone in the family is nervous, rushing around for the final touches, and worried the ceremony won't work. Of course Pepa has a cloud.
"You have a cloud" could have been said with concern or in a questioning way, to ask what is wrong and offer help or guidance. It could have been said in a neutral way to bring attention to it as a priority. Movies are pretty condensed, and these early scenes are meant to lay a foundation that supports the climax of the film where Alma has been hurting her family by being too much of a perfectionist and putting too much pressure on her kids and grandkids. Bruno is living in a wall and Luisa is about to have a sobbing breakdown. I think we can safely interpret that scene in a negative way.
@@DarkLadyPhoenix a warning is a scolding you never want it to get further then just a warning at least in Hispanics families
I don't see how nobody stopped to think about Bruno telling Pepa it looked like it might rain on her wedding day wasn't even him prophesying that it would rain. He probably just saw that she was looking nervous and so what normally happened every time she became nervous or stressed? It would rain. Sad how over a decade later she still blames him for having to get married in a hurricane.
I noticed this in the "We don't talk about Bruno"-song, but wanted to wait for you Bruno-video to share it.
Most of the family members singing about Bruno, are from Pepa's side of the family, and then Isabela from Julieta's side, and it all fits quite well with their characters and their relationships. Also the "absent" ones. Pepa is the more emotional of the triplets, shown with the weather, and she remembers the bad prophecies from Bruno, and even attributes the situation at her wedding to a prophecy and malice from his part, even though he tried being a caring brother. Also, upsetting Pepa has some more noticeable and immediate consequences, as it could lead to a hurricane.
Dolores, old enough to have somewhat clear memories of Bruno, could also always hear him, shows sympathy in the song, and also tries to explain his dilemma to Mirabel. This is even though she also got a negative prophecy about her lovelife from Bruno.
Camilo, only slightly older than Mirabel and therefore with basically no recollection of Bruno, really shows how the only thing he knows about Bruno is his bad reputation, and seems to have a demonized image of Bruno, as Bruno is no where near 7 feet tall.
Then there's Julieta's side of the family, where only Isabela sings.
She does, in theory, sing about a good prophecy, but doesn't like Bruno because she thinks it was all a lie from her current stand point (as we learn when Mirabel goes to her room, and the song "What else can I do"). Otherwise, she still has her "perfect"-mask on with a smug smile.
The only other negative thing Julieta's side of the family says about Bruno in the entire movie is Julieta herself saying that he lost his way in the family, and she mostly says it, because she's scared that Mirabel will be ostracized too. But this makes sense too, since Julieta is the healer of the family! She probably hasn't talked as negatively about Bruno to her children compared to Pepa, so it makes sense that they would be less likely to talk about him.
Thank you for your time with my wall of text. This got me excited ^^
This is great! it makes a lot of sense 👀
well said !
One reason why Camilo may think Bruno is 7 feet tall is that, to a very small child, adults look very tall. Since Camilo didn't grow up around Bruno, the Bruno in his memories would continue to be tall even as Camilo grew up. It's like revisiting a place you hadn't been to since you were very small; the rooms are always much smaller than you remember simply because you are now bigger.
@@Ventuswill Yeah, I get that. When I was five, my mom always looked huge, even though now, I practically tower over her.
@@Ventuswill That is very true!
"He told me my fish would die, the next day, dead!"
That entire section of the townsfolk talking about these prophecies he gave fail to mention the fact that he has to choose to see a vision, and from what we've seen, he chooses to see these visions when people need them. So all these "terrible prophecies" were almost certainly brought about because these people _asked_ him to look into their futures. He isn't just bringing bad news, he's bringing news they asked about, and it just so happens to be bad the majority of the time, probably because there are signs that make them want to check with him about it.
The way I've interpreted Pepa's "we don't talk about Bruno" is that she just misses her brother. She's the one that needs to control her emotions, and I feel like she never wants to talk about anything that would make her emotional, like her brother running away, so that it's easier to bottle up her emotions.
"...Bruno comes in with a mischievous grin" I've been thinking about this part of the song A LOT because I think it was a massive misunderstanding. I think the true tale was Bruno was so happy she was getting married and said "looks like rain" when he started to get teary eyed? Because why else would he arrive and be grinning about announcing a storm coming? She probably misunderstood his happiness and got so stressed out she created a hurricane. She would've thought he was carrying a vision with him instead of simply being happy.
Well, in the end song he said "it wasn´t a prophecy, I just saw that you were sweating, and I wanted you to know, that your bro loves you so..." It wasn´t meant to upset her, but he wanted to tell her that it´s OK for her to feel nervous on her big day (and make it rain because of it), that she doesn´t need to hold it in. He just doesn´t have the best social skills, so... maybe it came out a little wrong.
@@veronikamajerova4564 I agree. That part in the end was a bit hard to understand so many might have missed it.
In my interpretation Bruno‘s true nature is a bit of a jokester and he was younger back when Pepa got married so maybe was not repressing it as much at the time. I think he tried to mock her a bit and was actually being a bit mischievous telling her it looks like rain to point out her sweating in kind of a joking brotherly way.
@@veronikamajerova4564 Yes!! Also, after their casita was rebuilt you could see Pepa dancing in her rain cloud and Bruno was just meaning that it is okay to embrace that part of herself.
He said at the end that it was a joke because he saw her sweating with nervousness. He was trying to lighten the mood. So the grin was probably smirking at the joke and smiling that it should be a happy day.
I thought maybe after being treated how he was, he had a forced, awkward smile around them that came off wrong.
Me, watching this first thing in the morning with a tub of ice cream: "I AM mental health-"
Edit to add: the scene with Bruno's "seat at the table" makes me tear up every time, especially when he says "my Gift wasn't helping the family, but I love my family" it's heartbreaking that he believes the only way his family could want him around is if he was useful to them
it was so poignant. Ill share in that ice cream =)
Poor man😢
that plate and the utensils he drew there just makes me feel like crying out loud
Bruno is a really good example of how humans are very bad to distinguish correlation and causation. Just because Bruno sees something happening he is not the cause of it. But the correlation he has to bad events makes him connected to those events even though he is not the cause of them. Correlations are so much easier to work with and in nature are sufficient to survive. But for our complicated modern world correlations are just not enough, you need to know the cause to really understand something and act accordingly.
I also really like the idea that the powers of the candle are chosen deliberately. Julieta is there to heal the physical pain of the past. Pepa is there to heal the emotional pain of the present. Making it clear for everyone to see when something is wrong in the house madrigal due to the bad weather she causes. That makes the people of the town check on them, so they can offer to help. And Bruno was supposed the prepare for the pain of the future, therefore mostly having negative visions. But by abandoning Bruno the family basically abandoned the future and slowly the magic faded.
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love the correlation doesn't mean causation argument also
@@GeorgiaDow I t's really interesting how sometimes even if you intellectually know that something does not cause another thing it still affects your brain. I once had a bacterial infection and after I ate some fries I had to throw up very badly. Later I took some antibiotics everything was fine again but my stomach still felt sick when I tried to eat fries the next time. Even though I knew the bacteria was causing it and I knew it was gone I still had a physical reaction because of the correlation of eating fries and having to throw up.
Bruno is the living embodiment of "Don't shot the messenger"
I recommend checking out the video, "The Backwater Gospel". It basically demonstrates the misunderstanding that the reaper, or The Undertaker in this case, is the cause of death wherever he goes. I should warn you that it is very dark and not for the faint of heart.
I love how that lady said that her fish would die the next day and she pulls out a fish bowl because it’s one of the worst types of homes you could give to a fish without the proper equipment to keep the fish healthy.
“After you save the miracle. Come visit?” He didn’t deserve this. He deserves to feel loved
heart felt
"We dont talk about Bruno"
Georgia: THEY DIDNT SAY I COULDNT SIIIIIIINGGG>>
Hah you are lucky i didnt
As a person who prefers someone show me they're sorry than tell me they're sorry, I felt fine with Abuela's version of an apology. Her hug spoke volumes and her arc ends in her actively trying to change and make amends for her past behaviors.
Agreed. If people can show love in different ways, people can apologize in different ways
The form doesn't truly matter, what's important is that the apology was true and meant by that person and that it helped you 😌
happy to hear that I also enjoy non verbal apologies they feel more emotional often. But I can do both.
I agree. That actually took way more effort and means way more than an empty apology with no action to back it up.
I trust nothing unless the actions prove the words are real. Lived with a parent who undercut praise with behind the back criticism and whose verbal apologies can't be trusted because they're backhanded ways of blaming the victim. It was nice to see a character take nonverbal ownership of their responsibility and work to fix the damage instead of shortchanging the journey via a 'now I apologized so it's obviously all better' scenario. This movie was really great, imo, for the number of psychological nuances covered; hopefully it turns into a series that's as well done.
I feel like Bruno really was done dirty. I don't think a single person ever apologised to him (on screen, who knows what conversations they had off screen), and even after Mirabel pushed him into having another vision she then immediately rejected it because she hadn't yet worked through her issues with Isabella. I know Bruno's reaction to that rejection was played for laughs, but just imagine how incredibly hurtful that must have been for him. Darn it, this film will make me cry over and over again, Bruno's whole situation just makes me hurt.
What makes it worse for me is that Bruno's fear of his visions and how they've been received in the past really shines through during the second vision, where he says "It's just the same, I have to stop" - You can *see* how hurt and scared he is. Then he's encouraged to keep going and then *that* prophecy is rejected just like every other one was - Poor Bruno.
Yes Bruno had to carry a lot. We can hope they all look at things differently going forward
To her credit, Maribel doesn't say anything about it being Bruno's fault, she's only angry at the idea of her having to hug her sister. She's not even "I'm not going to try" or "nah, it's all BS because I know she hates me", she's "damn, how I'm going to do this, she hates me, she won't want to hug". So, already preparing herself for the task, basically. Throw a stone who never had this kind of self-talk before a difficult task they feel like they might not complete successfully. She doesn't seem to doubt Bruno's vision, or doubt his words, or be angry at him. She's even both in disbelief ("but she hates me, it won't happen") and being convinced because she sees it as a typical Murphy's law ("OF COURSE it must be her! the most annoying and difficult one!"). It's a stark difference from "he said X and now it's X, that's why we don't talk about it (because it's his fault)".
@@tymondabrowski12 Oh for sure, I'm not trying to say Mirabel is a bad person or anything. She's a literal child (what, like 14? 15?) not getting along with her sister and being told to basically hug and make up. I would for sure have thrown a tantrum way less cute than what she did when I was that age. I still feel bad for Bruno though, that was NOT what he needed to hear from her. A stable adult would obviously just have shrugged her off and not cared, but I think no one can claim Bruno to be stable at that point. I feel so sad for him.
She didnt reject it, she was upset at the situation not him.
Something neat you may not have noticed, but the only person who doesn't sing negatively about Bruno is Dolores. She says she grew to fear him, implying she didn't at first and that her family imparted that fear upon her as she grew up. Then she acknowledges how hard his gift must be to have, how it was such a heavy and humbling burden, and we get to see Bruno dancing on the balcony in the background. It's done comedically, like, "Oh dang this song about me is fire." But when you notice Dolores is the only one who doesn't sing negatively of him, it makes it entirely possible that he was dancing and paying attention to her song because he hasn't heard his family talk about him in a way that wasn't negative in such a long time.
Ah yes Bruno the character that made me cry is making me cry more 😭
I'm surprised that you didn't mention from the song "We Don't Talk About Bruno" Dolores' part. She was the only one to buck the trend of crapping on him, but instead tried to give insight on him. After all, she could still hear him talking and muttering as his picture was next to her room.
Which means she probably got to tune into all the episodes of his little telenovella.
Enjoy!
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I thought this at first too but the writers gave a brief comment about what the inside of other rooms would have looked like, and they mentioned specifically for dolores's that it would have definitely included soundproofing. So more than likely she couldn't actually hear him from her room but when she came out of her room in the main hall of Casita
EL RATO DEL ENCANTO!
@@aCavemanNamedJaR i don't think the soundproof room can be considered canon if she managed to hear luisa's eye twitching at night...
@@codycat6 She meant all night at the party.
My little sister is nonverbal and autistic and we just...didn't talk about her for a while. Just ignored her rightful outbursts. Which is why when our mom died and we were in medical debt I became overprotective and except our Grannyma and dad and my cousin everyone has forgotten her.
My sister and I both learned sign language and shared stuffies and communicated that way. I think my sister is also scared like Bruno to communicate.
She and Bruno and even myself sometimes "stim." We have repetitive behaviors to comfort us.
Thanks for these vids I was one to comment about not affording therapy atm and your videos are free and therapeutic. Appreciate it. Sorry to rant about my dang life story lol
how beautiful =)
Poor sister🥺😢I really aporeciate you regret it and you take care of her now, you are noble😊😘
it's so heartwarming that you found a way to communicate with eachother. you are a wonderful older sibling 😭
Bruno coming to save Mirabel at the end may have recked me more than anything. He was so willing to subject himself to the thing he feared the most, his mother's condemnation, in order to protect Mirabel from it. He was literally willing to retraumatize himself which is so brave and loving.
Absolutely agree about Abuela's apology. There's also just something about a non-verbal apology. Like, Abuela could've given a giant speech to Bruno or said "I'm sorry" but it wouldn't have changed anything for Bruno. Being brought back into the family, the hug and all the affection I think work a lot better for him. There's nothing they can change about the past so they might as well just change their entire behaviour towards Bruno and give him the affection he should've been given from the start. ((Also, I think what Abuela said/sang to Bruno in the 'All of you' song also kind of counts as an apology. She's trying.))
i agree
Also Bruno doesn't seem like the talking type, from his "*Stares at Mirabel for an uncomftable long time* bye" when they first met to him being all over the place, Hugging, touching and allways going over next to the person(s) he appologices to during his part at the end.
@@hefas842 AGREED!
Yes! And after so long NOT talking about the things that were wrong in their family, Abuela may not even have the words for a verbal apology.
Just a little something. Bruno's not knocking on "anything" as a sort of ritualistic OCD. Here in Latin America you knock, specifically on wood, to ward off "bad omens" or "jinxes", and you'll see he normally does that ritual when ppl say his name, he got to a point that he believes his own name is a jinx
In South Italy we do something similar so it was very obvious to me too when I saw the movie
"Knock on Wood" is also a phrase in english, for the same sentiment.
It's not the fact that he knocks on wood, it's the way that he does it that could be a symptom of OCD. He always does it the same way, he doesn't just go "knock on wood" and leaves it at that, but has a whole ritual to it.
I think the script for the movie mentions OCD
the OCD tiks can come from things like this. Like at first you wash your hands because you think they are dirty and then you keep and keep and keep doing it. You go to check if you closed the doors to be safe, but then you keep doing and doing it and it becomes an OCD.
OK, I've now watched Encanto over 20 times, and just tonight, I realized that when Bruno apologizes for the wedding mishap to Pepa. he throws some of his sand in the air like confetti or rice, like a celebrant might at a wedding. Not only has he given her a verbal apology, he's trying to make it up to her by recreating a small piece of the day in a more bright and celebratory environment. He even dances with her, and hugs Felix tightly! Then, before he throws the "rice" he makes sure Pepa is in Felix's arms, like she would have been just after they were married! It's clear he loves them VERY deeply.
Honestly one thing I love is how socially inept Bruno is without being always made fun for it or evil. I'm used to people always presenting this sort of characters as villains and just comic relief with no emotions so it's nice to actually see a character who has this problem and is just... A sweet person.
I don't even know if you mentioned this, but it's an interesting thing to remember that during "We don't talk about Bruno", Bruno is listening. He's in the walls, he knows what's going on.
and still loves them
Another example of Bruno's superstitious/ocd behavior is when Bruno is about to read Mirabel's future and says he can do this, he throws salt over his shoulder. It's meant to ward evil spirits or the devil away.
I have 2 things to say:
1 - I love that you get emotional in those videos. Most therapists I know try to keep the serious and collected persona, probably to show they are professionals, but seeing you get emotional kinda gives me permission to feel emotional too (and I got emotional a lot of times with this movie). I feel it is not silly to feel that way just because it is a cartoon.
2 - I think you should do a video on Abuela now. A lot of people ( me included, I admit) see her as the movie villain, as it were her demands and expectations that drove the family apart, but talking to one of my friend she opened my eyes to the fact that she was a very recent widow without family having to care for 3 children. I think that would be a good video.
I would say she's more of an antagonist than a villain. Her views and actions get in the way of Mirabel and the main goal, but she never has truly cruel, selfish, or bad intentions.
Thank you Bruno for appreciating my emotionality I am happy it gave you permission for your own. And I think I may do abuela as well I will have to see =)
It's a great way to show how generational trauma impacts the whole family system. X
@@narratornate8841 - she’s a misguided villain who gets redeemed. :)
@@ShinyAvalon ...I take it you haven't done any creative writing assignments in school?
Bruno is definitely my favourite character in Encanto, which is now my favourite Disney movie. Encanto just hit differently for me and I was able to relate to so many aspects of the movie. I find I really relate to Bruno's character in specific ways. I think Bruno would have some sort of complex trauma from growing up ostracised from the community and family and being blamed for things out of his control, doing his visions seemed to be especially traumatic for him. I have complex PTSD due to childhood trauma, part of it was from always feeling the blame for things I didn't do. I also have severe anxiety and difficulty connecting or being around people, like Bruno. Bruno is also extremely empathetic, to his own detriment, which I relate to. I would sooner harm myself than cause hurt to someone else, even if it's their fault, just like Bruno.
It was so refreshing to see a mentally unstable character portrayed in a movie without them being the villain or just the weird and annoying comic relief, I found Bruno to be the kindest and most lovable character out of all the Madrigals.
I think poor Bruno definitely got a bad rap, and since the Madrigal family is some kind of monolithic structure of the village, once he established a jinxed reputation within the family, the villagers kind of looked to add their own misfortunate encounters to his cursed reputation. Sort of like a feedback loop, or confirmation bias. Once the trend setting family set the standard that Bruno was no good, the rest of the village rushed to make their interactions, limited as they were, portray him in a negative light, despite how outlandish it is to think he had any control over the outcome. A guy's weight and another guy's hairline? Really?
It's also telling that once Abuela signals that it's okay to take him back into the fold, the rest of them are quick to embrace him. For being the boogeyman he was portrayed as for the entire movie, his family is quick to embrace him and even the villagers seem to lose all hesitation. Maybe I'm looking too deeply into it, but it almost seems like some sort of mob mentality, where general acceptance can be changed on a whim based on the cues of the leader. To me, that also helps explain how Bruno feels that he needs to be the one to apologize to everyone, and no one felt the need to apologize to him; HE was other-ized, so despite the fact that he was the one who was wronged, it was him who was ostracized from their society, and he alone bears responsibility for his side in their (imagined) conflict, whereas the entire family and village all share responsibility in their side, so none of them feel personally responsible. "What do you mean, my fault? Everyone else, even abuela blamed Bruno for his curse, how can you blame just me for thinking his curse killed my goldfish?"
I'm glad things turned out well for him in the end, but I would have liked to have seen his apology tour in the end song be a speed montage of everyone who accused him apologizing to him, instead.
'jinxed reputation' thats remembers me of someone, oh the misery!...
This also shows a problem with small communities because one bad rumor or thing can make the entire community turn your back on that person even tho either the rumor isn't true and some misinterpreted it or the rumor is true but it's not as evil or horrendous as people made it out to be.
@@condes9188 SHUT UP😭/j
I might be wrong, but to me Pepa's recentment towards bruno feels like its coming from a place of regret that she couldnt patch things with Bruno even though she clearly cared about her brother, she has told herself this wedding tale so many times in her head to justify not caring for his leaving or at least try to not care, but if she didnt clouds wouldnt appear over her head every time his name is mentioned.
One of the things that leads me to say this is the scene where Abuela presents his return to the family, even thou Pepa is slightly behind Julieta, she's the first to reach Bruno for a hug.
Another thing id like to believe is that Bruno actually really knows his sister, Throughout the movie it can be seen that Pepa's Clouds/Rain can be a result of happy feelings(Antonio's ceremony, and the last scene where she's dancing with Felix), and when he said "it looks like rain", he wasnt mentioning the bad kind of rain(even thou by the end they justify it as sweat).
I was always told rain was a good sign for weddings so I was a little confused that was an issue
@@EtamirTheDemiDeer I read somewhere that the line "no rain allowed" from felix was a warning from abuela. Because there no way that a line like that came from Felix, he's too good of an husband.
very good points
@@EtamirTheDemiDeer in some cultures rain on wedding day is actually a good omen, blessing and promise of good fortune.
The rain cloud during Antonios ceremony could be because she is sad to see him grow up, especially when you see Felix shoo the cloud away.
plus stormy and rain weather is often related to when she has negative emotions in the beginning, Worry = Hurricane and such.
Now everytime Bruno gets mentioned she creates a rain cloud not a thunder cloud that happens when shes worked up, that means she gets sad when Bruno is mentioned so i think you hit bullseye with that one
Being this person sucks, and unfortunately, many families never realize that they did this to someone. They honestly believe that everything is that person's fault and never actually change that belief. Sometimes, some parts of the problems are that person's fault, because not everything is as cut and dry as a Disney movie, and that makes it even easier to demonize someone.
I am not going to lie I just wanted to hug Bruno
The ending made me so happy
he is so huggable
Re: Abuela's apology. I love the adage "the best apology is changed behavior," and I feel like this is the perfect demonstration of that.
well said
This. I've so often had people who hurt me say sorry, and it basically means nothing to me. Doing some sort of action that's the opposite of what you did to hurt me, that's what a real apology is to me.
Seeing that plate painted on the table made me cry instantly.
Poor Baby 😭😭😭
yes so much so
I think Komi-San can’t communicate is something you’d like: a show about a shy girl with social anxiety who tries to make 100 friends, and meets eccentric characters as she grows up. I’d love to see your perspective on these social disorders/behaviors. Great content btw!
I love that anime!!
I'm autistic and estranged from my mom and I saw a lot of myself in Bruno. First of all the way people (especially Pepa) misinterpret what he says and build up resentment against him because of what they perceive his intentions to be. But also his role as a "truth teller" in the family. I got a lot of negative attention because I would speak truths about our family system that people weren't ready to hear.
Like Bruno, I never intended to hurt anyone with my actions or words. I just had people read hostility into my words because of my (lack of) tone or because of what I was saying. I wouldn't be surprised if Bruno was also autistic and struggling with his tone while delivering bad news, or saying things that others weren't ready to hear.
He is authistic, I also have mild Asperger Syndrom myself. I am not brutally honest but I can be shy, do not look at eyes and are attracted to topics other people dont like
In Encanto, Bruno is a classic type example of many communities to taboonized something that you don’t want to admit to talking about because it is not considered appropriate, but still talk a lot and all time even though everyone denies their talk. But because Bruno is a person, this rejection, exclusion and discrimination will certainly hurt a lot - as in the cases such as this, the taboonizing practiced by the community in general.
And my apologies, because I couldn't find the right word so I had to come up with a new one for the taboonization.
I adopted a Hernando for myself in early adulthood. Sounds weird but it does work to have "someone else" do the thing you're scared of.
Not at all weird, it can be a helpful tool
My theory was that Bruno's belief in bad luck gives him something to blame other than himself- somewhere in his head, it makes the bad things that happen NOT his fault. He's afraid that everyone will blame him, but I don't think HE blames himself. I think he's coping by blaming the bad luck as a sort of placeholder.
Bruno's experiences are basically a supervillain origin story, but despite BEING vilified, his default is compassion. He thought he was helping. He WANTED to help (just like Mirabel). There was no malice in any of the predictions he made, he thought he was helping by telling the truth. He could have lied about what he saw, but that would have COMPLETELY backfired because his family would see him as unreliable or a liar. Literally, 'damned if you do, damned if you don't." He took ALL of what was thrown at him without holding any grudges. I think Bruno's a pretty solid example of unconditional love.
We all have a Bruno in our family... a "designated patient" responsible for everything wrong wether it's deserved or not. Being that person, to feel responsible for all that goes wrong can destroy you. After awhile, you just give up and leave or you might go insane. And when that person leaves, that role falls to someone else. There's always a scapegoat because it's easier than actually do some introspection and work to solve the issues at their origins.
"Designated patient" is such a great term.
@@m3rrys0ngstr3ss I know? I don't remember where the term first came up though... Bateson Project I think?
Another thing about Bruno doing all these bad luck avoidance things is that prophecy and superstition go hand in hand. His gift is prophecy, being superstitious comes as naturally as breathing.
Loved this, and though I also believe Abuela definetly needed to apologise to Bruno, in that particular moment, she was emotionally raw from reliving her trauma of losing Pedro and deeply apologizing to Mirabel, that the hug worked and anything that needed to be said can be off screen. Plus, for Abuela, after that apology and healing, to have the son she thought was lost and gone for so long come back, its likely proof to her that this is exactly what the family needed in order to heal
yes the house knew all along
Bruno hurts the most. He just wants to be there...and nobody wants him until the end.
Also, this video is gonna make me cry.
and its okay to cry
I feel like these videos give me permission to feel things again.
oh that is so touching yay
i think pepa was extremely upset about brunos leaving since her reaction at ending when brunoa "comes back" was much more emotional than her sisters
Her apology being non-verbal was brilliant because here we have this matriarch character who has been stoic and aloof the entire movie suddenly we see her run right to him and hold him as close and as tight as she can because she is just so damn afraid of losing her son again. You can tell shes genuinely happy to see him and because of her conversation with Mirabel in the previous scene, she is finally able to be emotionally vulnerable with people and emotionally honest with herself.
I went into this movie knowing the entire world had been identifying with certain characters and as they all "didn't" talk about Bruno, I could feel that straight away and lone and behold once we finally saw Bruno, that's who I identified with. When I tried explaining that to my partner she didn't understand and couldn't see how I could feel that way. She thought I was a lot more like Pepa, very emotional and struggling to control my emotions. She event mentioned "You also say the phrase she does of "Im doing my best, I don't know what you want from me!" as you exit a room. We talked about it again later and after reflecting on her words I mentioned I could see what she means and that for our family, with our kids, our relationship, Im definitely Pepa. But what I meant was is that I identified as Bruno within my childhood family and my parents. I was always misunderstood. Every word or action was misinterpreted. I was always made out as "bad". People would deliberately not talk to me and avoid me because I was a "problem". Even into adulthood they always were convinced I had the worst intentions, or that I just "don't know better".
Something that I've come to realize as I've been self exploring my childhood trauma and learning new coping techniques and communication techniques. Is despite me pointing all that out I was still met with "well maybe some of it matches, but not all of it." and even when I mentioned "Well, you weren't there. There is a lot you didn't see, or hear, or feel, or live with that I did. And I can't express all of that, I can't say all of it. In some ways because its too hard, and in others because I don't have a memory of it, but I still have the feeling that came from that forgotten memory. My body hasn't forgot how that felt." When people open up and share why they feel a certain way people really need to stop trying to tell me their feeling isn't accurate. They're my feelings and Im telling you what they are. Just accept them and validate them. Why does it become so important to the listener to change my feelings?
Well said 💯
I had to make changes every few years to better cope, and a lot of memories have delay/are impossibly hard to grasp so when I do remember/a strong feeling resonates, I know. But I’m often gaslit and written off, so I get super triggered when I feel invalidated. I can understand where the other person is coming from/what their intentions are, but whew- too many days I feel set to implode. Stuck with those who want validation but refuse to do the same in return. Like, what do you stand to lose from doing so? Treating others the way you want to be treated…why does it not register as the default? Or…I suppose they see it as diminishing their perceived “value?”
God, I ache to give Bruno a hug. When he tells Mirabel that he doesn't know to help his family, but he loves them, so he stayed.
That's just utterly heartbreaking.
I am on the Autism spectrum and I often find myself the butt of jokes in my family (mostly on my dad's side) and I identified with Bruno a little bit because I have similar anxious behaviours to him and I feel like an outcast, not just outside but also at home
I feel like a outcast sometimes
I have adhd and another disorder I won’t put out there on the web and I grew up being the scapegoat in my family and was regularly bullied at school. Now that I’m an adult and got better at social skills, it feels strange to have people be nice to me and want me to be a part of things. I almost want them to be mean to me because that’s what feels familiar to me
Abuela isn’t just the Matriarch of Bruno’s family though. She’s his mother. She’s giving him the kind of comfort and affection that he hasn’t had since he was a child, because she is just so happy that her child is home. That she hasn’t really lost him forever.
I am just going to mention about one thing that I realized about life and I see it in this movie regarding Bruno's situation. The reason why Bruno had to become an outcast is because everyone in encanto was blaming HIM for their OWN desicions. He just told ppl what's gonna happen but ppl still didn't try to do anything to change their fate and shifted the blame on Bruno. That thing correlates to real life as well since people tend to try toss the responsibility of their bad desicions on another person they've interacted with. I've even done that myself. That behaviour is really toxic because 1) you refuse to make changes in your own behaviour, and 2) having been a victim of that kind of behaviour as well I know that the blamed victim might start to accept that blame and start having an insecurity "oh no, now because of me this person made a wrong desicion and now everything is bad" meanwhile everyone has to take full responsibility for their own desicions.
The thing Bruno does of touching wood actually has to do with a supertiction that exists in some Latinoamerican countries: If someone says something awful or bad, to prevent that to happen you have to touch or knock wood. I think that's the reason why Bruno touches wood constantly, he always has visions about bad things that are gonna happen and in order to prevent that he knocks wood
Maybe it comes from Europe, by colonizers, since it's known in European countries as well. In Poland nowadays you usually don't even knock but just say "odpukać" meaning "[let's] knock it out [on the wood]". For people who don't believe in supersticions it basically means either "I hope it won't happen" or "I hope nothing bad will happen to it" (since before that you can say "Hmm what if it's raining on the wedding day" (but let's hope it won't) or "There should be good weather on the wedding day" (and let's hope it will be exactly that)).
Throwing salt behind your shoulder is an older practice, I don't think people do it anymore. Maybe only on weddings, I think it's either salt or rice but it's thrown on the couple, not behind your shoulder. I don't think I've heard about throwing sugar but I guess it has the same meaning, as in, just "bringing good luck". And stepping on cracks in wood brings bad luck which is why he avoids doing so.
Spilling the salt is supposed to bring bad luck. The superstition is, that to counteract it, you have to pick it up and throw it over your shoulder.
Regarding the USA: Yep- usually three quick raps on a wooden surface with that declaration of “knock on wood”. Common thing.
@@tymondabrowski12 Salt is supposed to purify things - it's supposed to confuse or drive away evil spirits. Never heard anything about sugar. No salt on the bridal party either - throwing rice & the like is for prosperity.
If anyone paid attention I think that Antonio was called "Tonito" at one point, similar to Abuela called Bruno, "Brunito". It's often how parents speak to their babies. -ito often describes something, or someone, small and cute like our children. Lots of parents have names they give only to their children which demonstrates the unique affection and love that they and only they have for their children. In this case 'Brunito' carries so much weight to both Abuela and Bruno because they both know that with that name she still sees him as her baby. Not much else needs to be said and while he still deserves an apology I think it's a really beautiful moment.
Bruno’s placemat made me cry it’s truly heart breaking. Imagine all the terrible things they said/sung about him when they thought he wasn’t there. 🥺
and he still loved them
From what is said in the movie, I feel like a lot of the 'we don't talk about Bruno' comes from Abuela. She is the matriarch after all, not only of the family, but the entire village. They did say that she never knew what to make of Bruno. She loved him, but didn't know what to make of his gift... unlike the others it was subtle and easy to confuse and blame. But she still went to him for advice, as when Mirabel didn't get a gift. I feel that she was deeply hurt and confused by Bruno disappearing. But because she is the Matriarch, she can't show weakness, she put it aside. Instead of dealing with her feelings, she put it away and refused to talk about Bruno. And everyone else who takes their cues from Abuela did the same. Even though the family clearly wanted to talk about him, and the younger villagers were curious, it became forbidden to speak about him. When Abuela brought Bruno back she was giving them silent permission, saying he was okay again. And they accepted him back gladly, because they never really hated him.
Of all the family, I most related to Bruno, especially his wanting to still be a part of the family, but felt a (literal) wall between them. He wanted it, but felt he couldn't. In my case the wall was figurative... I came from a pretty close knit extended family, but my father removed us from them when I was young. By the time we returned when I was an adult, I had barely seen them and was not a part of their life. There was a (figurative) wall between us where I was 'family', but really a stranger to everyone who didn't belong. Nobody knew how to interact with me, and I didn't know them.
I think in a way that the older family being angry at him was because they didn't want to miss him it was their best way to cope
Bruno reminds me of the Pokémon Absol who had a keen sense of detecting danger. Of course, Absol would rush to warn people, but also of course, Absol doesn’t speak in a human tongue. And so, since it arrived right before danger, people associated the Pokémon with danger. They believed Absol was the harbinger of bad things.
What happens when someone who wants to help people, wants to fix their problems and who loves their family get's out casted by them? they become a paranoid, lonely, and mentally scarred individual. :(
4:00 In my culture and in some other cultures when you think of something bad, predict something bad, or just expect the worst; adults and elderly people tell you to knock on wood so you don't jinx it. We knock on wood to prevent bad things from actually happening :D
and it's likely that abuela told bruno to knock on wood so he doesn't "cause" bad things to happen.
Jinx it 😜😏😁
@@grimm516 Jinx should totally try knocking on wood
@@kxc7580 well probably like what would her rituals be talking to her guns?? 🤔
I found Abuela's apology to be huge precisely because it wasn't verbal. Many people verbally apologize without meaning it, like a toddler repeating words they were told to say because it will bring the desired result. You are taught to say "sorry" and the slate is immediately supposed to blank, even if no real apology was given, no regret is felt and it's likely the hurt might be repeted again. But she gives him a warm welcome and brings him back, meaning it without saying it. People are demeaned because they refuse to accept an apology they think wasn't enough just because an apology was given, so things are supposed to be fine now.
And the apology is bigger because we know Abuela doesn't talk about her feelings, neither her hurt of her past or her joy of her family. Abuela isn't a talker, but her words were what caused Mirabel's pain. Words were a great apology for her. Words, however, would feel like an insincere apology for Bruno. Bruno's pain was caused by her actions and inactions, so action is the perfect apology for him.That tight hug is a show of caring that Bruno likely didn't have and deeply craved, then pulls him both toward the town and the family, an undeniable show of wanting him back into the fold.
He gets the show from his mother, and the words from his sisters. And isn't that perfect?
words vs actions
I adore that Dolores knew entirely about Bruno still being there and snuck food to him any time she was able to. She understood that Bruno needed his space in the walls and would return to the family when he was able to so she just silently was there for him and supporting him until he was ready to come back to the family. That silent support is probably what kept him from snapping and I'm very happy he had it.
The character of Bruno is literally the pokémon Absol made human
Please tell me theres a video on Abuela coming soon. I feel like too many people forget that her journey of family building started with her losing her husband and having to support 3 babies on top of probably feeling obligated to take care of the villagers in the Encanto as well. Clearly she never got to deal with the lose of Pedro and is probably still dealing with those feelings up until the point that the house is rebuilt and all the rooms possibly change. So many people see her as malicious when she didnt even realize that she could have been hurting her family. People put in those situations (Abuela's) often times end up bearing so much on their shoulders, and I doubt anyone in the Encanto was offering her that much help with her children.
My mother (1923-2008) I realized never vocalized "I love you" to any of her 5 offspring. My dad (1914-1981) was the same. Yet I knew I was loved by both of them. Their actions and support and sometimes scolding or punishments, I knew I had a place with them where I belonged and would give in return. Yet my sister, Thirdgirl needed it to be vocalized because she believes neither one loved her. Abuela doesn't say, "I'm sorry " to Bruno because she was doing what she thought was the best for everyone and was scared because she had no Plan B is the miracle was lost. She pulled him back into the family with the understanding her past behavior was not for the future. Only Mirabel was willing to challenge the status quo along with Antonio. Antonio wasn't afraid to ask for support from his cousin and he wasn't afraid to let his gift warm up Abuela's chair and to lend assistance to Bruno and Mirabel. He even knew not to let his jaguar eat Bruno's rat family.
If I was Bruno. I know I'd be pissed at people singing that song.
Like, you have the power, you know the misfortune, and try and warn them about it.
But instead of taking your advise and adjusting things to fix it. They just blame you when it happens
'Your fish is going to die'
Fish Dies
"Bruno killed my fish!"
I think Bruno was telling you to feed your dang fish
Regarding Bruno not getting a spoken apology from Abuela, my theory is that the script already showed her character growth when she apologized to Mirabel, and they didn't want to use more screen time to show essentially the same story beat. I think we can safely assume that Abuela's change of heart, combined with the happiness and support of the rest of the family, will ensure that Bruno gets a full, proper apology.
Its worth noting that Felix sings “Thunder!” even before Bruno said anything hinting at Pepa’s nerves. They just wanted someone to blame.
14:17
I was hurt a lot, pressured to be the golden child like Isabella, have good grades, be the best at everything and if I didn’t I would get punished or yelled at, this went on until 2 years ago, My mother wanted to learn more about babies, children, and teens, she finally realized what she did to me as a young child hurt me mentally, she learned for one year and when she finished which was last year, She came up to me in my room, mind you I hated her and my father due to this pressure but felt if I didn’t do what she told me to do and be, I wouldn’t get the love I want and be punished, she came up to me and closed the door behind her and just spelled her heart out about how much she hurt me as a young child, that she regrets it, if she could go back she would fix it, how much it affected her little child as they grew up and this pressure, just her breaking down of how bad of a mother she was and just apologizing to me as she hugged me, I felt this pressure and anxiety just disappear, I finally felt that I didn’t need to do everything perfect for the love, She knew how much I was hurt because I was crying with her, I felt like I can finally be accepted for who I am and not for what I can do, I forgave her and have been healing ever since, it still breaks me down knowing how much my mother grew and realizing what she did was emotionally damaging
It is a really emotional and beautiful moment when Abuela introduced back to the family. It gave me a lump in the throat. I also like Bruno, he seems to be such a sweet and quirky guy. He would be a delight to have him as a uncle!
I love how so far Lin Manuel hasn't made a 'villain' in the movies so far, because the real villains are toxic emotions and values :D. I can't imagine what kind of character he would make if it was intended to be a villain.
11:22 that bit really spoke to me. As I got older and my anxiety grew, I started hiding the part of me that wanted to reach out to people and make friends and have hobbies and “frivolous” interests that wouldn’t serve me in my career pursuits. And it turns out half of it was catastrophizing on my end: when I actually got the courage to open up to my parents about it, they were completely fine with my interests. So I get the “not who you really are” timidness.
wonderful I hope this comment encourages others to do the same
I think it's neet that him being protective and standing up for his niece, is the thing that inspired him to finally stand up for himself in the process. I agree that he does actually care what she thinks of him but I think he kind of needed to tell her off.
The Bruno character really got me. Lol im crying with you.
hear you
I’d love to see an analysis on pepa and on isabela! Their problems are similar with having to always act perfect, isa because she’s expected to just *be* perfect , and pepa because for the weather to be ‘good’ she has to have ‘perfect’ feelings. You can see them being the most close aunt and niece/nephew duo because of their similarities, she gives pepa flowers and in we don’t talk about Bruno you see them dancing and holding hands for a second while the table is being set.
I love how he’s portrayed to have big puppy eyes. Animators, especially in Disney, usually put big eyes on female characters, children, and animals. Big eyes tug at peoples heart strings, and I think the intention of giving Bruno big eyes was to convey emotions strongly and show Bruno to the viewers as innocent and a way to get him some sympathy
When he grabbed her arm in the walls I knew they were both gonna be okay.
I figured out he was a good guy cause he was running away. But the line “you are very sweaty.” Sealed it.
Bruno is so strong power wise, emotionally and brave he was ready to take all the blame to save mirabel
14:52 I love how Pepa is the first sibling to go and embrace Bruno even tho for years she said that he ruined her wedding just proves how much she still loves her brother and I think that's amazing
We all can relate to sobbing about Bruno
Bruno's story is a sad one and I couldn't help but cry too towards the end. He deserves all the love!! I got reallll emotional when discussing how much Bruno sees himself in Mirabel. I agree, I love how in depth you go in his various characteristics,, made my week thank u - I practically jumped out of bed after getting this notif lol
I love how felix says "no cloud allowed in the sky" he (at least to me) try to tell us and mirabel that bruno wasn't to blame its Pepa with her not letting her emotions out /feel them because (let's be honest) abuella "forbid" the emotions
One thing I really love about Bruno is how his 'prophecy' at Pepa's wedding wasn't a prophecy at all, he was just trying to comfort her and tell her it's okay for her to express her emotions. You know the line ''no clouds allowed in the sky?'' Coupled with how Abuela Alma is shown chastising Pepa for having clouds often, I feel like that was literally how it went down during the wedding. Alma might have been judgemental about Felix at first, which would have added to Pepa's pressure to not let her emotions show. What would people think if you weren't the pinnacle of happiness on your wedding day? Which would be why clouds were literally not allowed in the sky.
But at the end of the movie there's a scene where Pepa's finally allowed to let loose and she dances happily with a snowing/raining cloud above her. I think this fits with real emotions too. People don't just feel pure happiness, and sometimes extreme emotions (like the kind that might mean hurricanes or snowstorms) might not necessarily mean you're unhappy, or mean something's wrong. It should be okay to have or express emotions that aren't pure happiness, even if there isn't any obvious or logical reason behind them. The fact that Bruno realised that Pepa was uncomfortable and felt pressured trying to keep up the facade, and went over to comfort her about it, is very sweet.
I'd like to think all the other things that the townsfolk sung about were just his kind (but badly phrased) advice too.
''Lady, your fish is gonna die if you don't put some plants in the tank''
''Hey man, you might want to cut back on the carbs there''
''You shouldn't stress out so much, at this rate you'll lose all your hair!''
Or something to this effect lol
As someone with OCD, it was nice to see this very vague representation. It could just be his superstition, but it’s nice to think of it as representation.
In case with Bruno, people forgot, that "Forewarned is forearmed".
I think peopel could use Bruno's predicitons in so many healthy ways. For example, the priest has found out that he was going to go bald - then think what you can do to be attractive in your understanding of attractivness with baldness, so you would be prepered for this. You can save some money for a good wig for example. If Peppa knew there was going to be a rain - then move the whole wedding to the house OR ask everyone to bring umbrelllas with them. Even Luisa could be calmer, because she would knew for sure, when someone or something would attack their family and she would need to step up instead of freaking out every day because of it
I love your comment that not all families are verbal. I think that rings through with a lot of Latin American families (at least in my experience). Apologies are showed with actions, gifts, things you need. Rarely did I get verbal apologies from my dad. But for Abuela, (correct me if I'm wrong) she never gives anyone a hug throughout the movie not even in flashbacks. The most physical affection she gives of for greetings and for "fixing" something "imperfect" for Isabella like the flowers in her hair. So, a hug from her must have been something really special. I would still like to think that Abuela tried to show more physical and verbal love (& apologies) in the future, but it takes time to unlearn :)
I get so mad at Abuela when it comes to Bruno. I know she was afraid things would go bad and people, including her triplets, would die. But being unable to face the idea of things not being perfect, she allowed her family and the entire village to take their frustrations about someone who was telling the truth out on Bruno without ever defending him, when she had the power to protect him from that.
Thank you for the explanations here, including pointing out how hesitant he was when giving Mirabel wisdom about the situation and how his dysfunctional role has affected his ability to feel like he can be himself so that he worries about how he’s socializing. It reminds me of my girlfriend who is dealing with being the scapegoat in her family. I appreciate the insight a lot.
I hope to see her open up and be able to express herself more because she gets a lot of anxiety when meeting people about what she says and what to do or say, and I know she’s been unable to stand up for herself well and has been the target of some attacks recently due to the fact cruel people target that. Thanks!
Right and thats her own son.
Gotta feel bad for Dolores, probably sleepless every night hearing Bruno practice his character impressions lol
Honestly though, my first time watching I was actually amazed at how detailed this movie got. It shows that they really put in a lot of attention and care into getting things really accurate and relatable for people.
8:49, I think that it’s also probably the case that Mirabel sees some of herself in her Uncle Bruno as well and that when she comments about “family weirdos” having a bad reputation she’s talking not just about him but also herself since she (because she’s the only one without a gift) is another person like that.
In one of the deleted scenes, Felix and Agustin are the ones talking to Mirabel about Bruno. Felix says that Bruno and Abuela got into an argument, and when he tells her he's going to leave, she tells him he will be considered dead. He retorts that he already is(or rather, wishes). Its heartbreaking.
My head cannon was that the priest went to Bruno to ask if anything bad would happen to the church, Bruno found the worst thing to happen to the church is he loses his hair. It‘a a faulty perspective from focusing on the bad omens or the bad predictions