Wheel Horse 312-8 Attach-a-Matic Mower Deck Install | How to Install Mower Deck on Wheel Horse
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- In this video I show you how to install a mower deck on a vintage Wheel Horse Garden Tractor equipped with their "Attach-a-matic" implement system.
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Perfect video! Just as long as needed and some mowing in the end! Great!
You are the best at explaining mechanical procedures. Thanks....
Solid tractor, almost like a down sized farm tractor and a nice clear well explained video and also certain you don't find all these awesome tractors... they find you! Excellent!👍🛠️
Love the wheel horse, thanks for sharing.😁
Thanks a lot!! Will need this for reference later, I need to remove off the deck on my c-141 to fix a rusted spot.
I enjoy your wheel horse videos. Thanks for posting them. I would love to see you post a video about adjusting the mower deck height and/or the lift arm linkages.
I still have my 312-8 , bought it new , use it all the time !
Utterly brilliant little tractors. I am still keeping my late father-in-law's WH312-8 going and really appreciate the heavy solid South Bend engineering!! Makes the replacement John Deere look utterly puny.
I just posted that I do not know why my mower deck front rollers will not touch the ground?
What am I doing wrong? It is a 312-8
@@wendells3344 just there to avoid scalping , not for height adjusting .
@@wendells3344 actually the front rollers do typically roll along the ground -- but yes, they are intended to also avoid scalping --- check the manual -- and you will find the bracket frame unit on top of deck gets various adjustments that contributes to deck " leveling" - actually the name of the bracket is called the " leveler" -- i have had a WH for 31 yrs -- the deck provides great mowing appearance for lawn -- but you need to use a combination of the proper leveling settings of the top bracket on the deck itself -- along with the lever lift arm coupled with the height setting on the side of the deck by the mower mouth chute -- if you don't have manual - look it up online on Toro site or elsewhere
Great video Norman, helped me a lot .Cheers!
Pretty cool little tractor
You can’t kill this machine. I’ve had mine since 1994 and she still looks and runs like new. Not like the junk they sell at Home Depot, Lowe’s or Tractor Supply
That is one sweet looking mower /.garden tractor young man
Great video. I am a huge wheel horse fan, I found your channel when you did a walk around on this tractor. A suggestion for more WH content could be how to level the deck and change the rear gear oil. Also if you have a WH that is a hydro how to change the transmission oil in it, as it is can be tricky. Thanks again Norman, and keep up the great work!
Yes I'd like to see all those things!
Should mention the mule drive belt tensioner adjustment and the deck adjustment knob on the shift lever panel. 🙂
Thank you so much Norman!
Very helpful I just inherited my gramps 1985 417 A wheel horse Thank you
Love your videos
Thanks for showing what pulley to use.
Thanks, this really helped me.
My grandpap has the manual rear discharging mower and that is a monster doesn't struggle at all unless your acting like a fool and mow into some thick mud and have to get ahold of a new belt
The best!!! Thank you!
Awesome video!
Verry good instructive video. I take all the parts I need for my LGT from your site. Maybe one day you can do the same video but with a Ford LGT.
Great video. Thanks for saving a great tractor! And thanks for what you do.
I own about 30 WH tractors from 200, 300, 400, to 500 series of this same Era. I love them all!
I noticed the grease fitting on the center pulley was missing or worn off. This is typically due to the lift bar not having a washer (or washers) and a key to keep it over far enough so that the bar does not contact the grease fitting and wear it down. I think it might be worth mentioning this, because I have done this myself back before I realized what was happening and why my grease gun no longer snapped onto the fitting and the grease didn't go in properly.
THANK YOU for mentioning the correct pulley groove on the PTO to place the belt in. I see it in the further belt groove way too often...
The belt looked a tad loose in the video. May want to mention to tighten it up with the knob on the mule drive.
I've not tried running a 48" deck on a 312-8 with single piston Kohler magnum. I typically use those on my 400 and 500 series WH with twin cyl Onan. I've always ran a 42" on any of my horses with 14hp or less. My thick grass would probably choke down the 12hp Kohler Magnum. But maybe not.
What's a mower like this worth ?
@@brandonmurphy4657 - Depends on where you're located. It really does matter. Some areas have a lot more Wheel Horses available than other locations.
If it were me buying, depending on condition, and if it had implements with it, $250 to $500.
@@TC10284 I live in Maryland . I have not seen many . There is one on Craigslist with wheel weights , chains and a plow . Looks clean but needs a tune up they say . They are asking $800 I was thinking $400
@@brandonmurphy4657 Hmmm - I'd say maybe $500 to $600. I check FB Marketplace daily and see them near $700+ much anymore. There are a lot less now than a couple years ago. Occasionally (nowadays) you can find some of this era for $400 or less. There are a couple that popped up on mine. I'm in central NC.
@@TC10284
They are going up in price. In Canada they are getting well over a thousand for a good machine.
Thanks for your help!
You saved me ,thank you
Salut Norman
Merci pour cette vidéo 👍
Great thank you Norman
Thanks and remember to adjust belt tension.
Thanks Norman 👍
Wheel horse mad a tuff machine. Toro still dose! I own a Toro Time Cutter Zero Turn!
nice video man , I have the same model
Nice! I got a 420lse. Been a while since I've fiddled with it. Gonna reference this vid quite a bit because I need to get the deck off. Blades are super dull.
Can you do a video on setting the 42 in rear discharge deck so it cuts evenly, without strips? I'm at a loss to even my 312-8.
Do you have a install video for the snow blower attachment ,thanks
Thank you! Liked and subscribed. Do you happen to have a mule assembly for sale for the front by any chance?
Thank you!
Should have shown how to adjust the belt tension. I know it sounds frugal but it is an important step. Other than that great video!!
How?
@@Drop_N_Chop_LLC with the mule drive mounted and the belt installed, adjust the knob on the front of the drive. You want it reasonably tight, but still with some deflection. If you notice when he engages the PTO, the belt has a little wiggle to it. That's about how tight you want it
Do not over tighten that knob or you'll bust a disk. I forget the exact name. It'll keep slipping unless replacex
I just bought a 312-8 Classic in real good condition. I mowed with it once and mower worked fine. I took the deck off as I was using tractor in the woods. I put the deck back on and seemed easy. But now the front wheels of the deck will not touch the ground no matter how low it is set? What do you think I have done wrong in my installing the deck?
Frustrated as it seems it should just drop down when the lift lever is pushed forward.
I have a QUESTION...I just built a front loader on my Wheel Horse 520 and with the added weight, the tractor seems to not have enough braking power now. Any way to add a brake or upgrade, or anything like that??
Thought this was gonna take me all day but with this video, about an hour between removing the snowblower attachment to installing the mower deck. Nice, now how tight should the belt be?
Thank you
Hi Norman, I live is Southern California and I want to buy a vintage garden tractor to restore. However, there are not many available in this region. Any thoughts on how I can connect with sellers out east?
I have a 1972 john deere 212 that I just put a new engine in, but the key makes the engine turn over in the run position instead of the start position. What should I do?
Thanks for the information, the bright sunlight made it very difficult to see at times.
Thank you for the feedback
You should have showed adjusting the tension of the belt also. Thanks for showing install.
Yes after I woke up this morning and re watching this upload you're right I forgot to add that video clip! Debating if I should re upload or leave it..
Make a part two checking deck bearings , blades and belt wear.
@Lost Marbles Adv Hi There, after you install the belt, just turn the knob in front of the mule drive to tighten up the tension
Can you do a video and changing the seal for the brake shaft?
My brake is covered in oil and my wife keeps yelling at me for running into the fence at the bottom of the hill 😆
Hi man I have the same one , my lawnmower belt keeps coming off the pully after 5 minutes of cutting grass , is it because my belt is too thick ? Its a little bit thicker than the one in the video , t
Any Deck install on a 69-70 ford 120 hydro
Where is best place to buy a new belt that runs from PTO to mower deck?
Anyone know how to attach mower deck to a wheel horse model 1 724T? I couldn’t find any info anywhere. I can get the front latched but the lever won’t go into the locked up detent. I see two flat plates dangling above deck that have holes in the lower ends but there’s nothing I can see to connect them to. The front of mower deck lifts with the lever but the rear won’t come up.
I stumbled across your channel looking for help with my toro wheelhorse classic. It sat for 2 years inside of one of those temporary sheds and for some reason it has no spark. It's alot like this tractor in the vid. New plug, it's getting gas, turns over, just no spark.
I'm not a mechanic by any means, but I've neglected a few push mowers back in the day and the flywheel and ignition coils??? Have gotten weathered.
What is the best way to clean them?if you think it will help. Just help me save my red beast. I love this thing. Just time has been something I haven't had much of. Like most of us.
New subscriber .
I don't have enough space here to help you but drop me an email or a call and I'll help you save it all
My tractors from the early 80s late 70s I need a 48 inch job mower deck royal horse the double pole on the center spindle I need to rebuild or
Is it an 1/2 × 83 inch belt and deck belt 103?
I have a 93 520h. The mule drive on mine I believe has 2 pulleys. Which one does the belt go on ?
The 'mule drive' with two pullies, has one belt. One really long belt comes off the motor pulley, onto a mule pulley, onto the horizontal drive pulley on the mowing deck, then returns from the mowing deck to the other mule pulley, then finally back to the engine. ONE belt does it all for the mowing deck, crisscrossing to go from vertical to horizontal to vertical again.
Anyone know where to buy an electric generator that mounts on the front of tractor?
Will this work for the 400 and 500 series as well?
Yes!
It took me an hour to connect my mower!
The two point connection has to be forced up to the slot with a crow bar and blocks of wood!
I was finally mowing but the blade kept stopping?
I tightened the belt and the clutch
Finally the belt tore!
I have to look for new belt!
Can anyone suggest how to get the mower blades off. Really struggling here in the UK!
Impact Wrench!
I just picked up a wheel horse 310-8 in the process of restoring it just puf 4 new tires on it fixed the lift handle cable basic tune up and carb cleaning... New wheel bearings in the front and seals in the rear .. New seat and ignition switch and selonoid.. Replacing the clutch sensor switch next and drive belt .. Had to replace a couple grease fittings and shifter knobs and boot.. Gonna give it a new paint job and new decals .. Gonna look awesome .. Prob will do the engine rebuild later and after that maybe all the seals and bearings in the transmission.. Looking for a rototiller for it ? I live in maine .. So if anyone has one to sell please let me know.
My dad came across one of these, how much do one of these cost nowadays?
i watched this video many years ago but wactching it today it almost looks like the belt around the mule pulleys going up to the PTO drive are twisted? yes/no? hard to tell from video but looks like the bottom loop to pto is not correct? - if thats true that means its twisted in the outer mule pulley then going to the deck pulley?
They straighten out after the mule drive.
Cool
I see how easy you lift the bar up to be attached,
However my bar will not lift up? I. Have use crow bar and blocks of wood to raise the bar into place!
What is my problem? It’s a real pain!
How do you get the belt on the mule drive?
Loosen it all the way
Where can you find new spindles for these decks? I can't find them anywhere..
No where I know of. eBay, or used parts salvage yards. And of course parts decks, you find locally.
@@Isavetractors my deck will be heading to the scrapyard then...
I am looking to buy a bigger mower deck for my 312, is this a 48?
I have a 312-8 with a 42. With only 12 horsepower, I doubt it would handle anything larger.
i have a wheel horse 312 h it needs parts do you have theme thanks
He sells engine parts , if you need body parts check ebay
So me and my dad are fixing up our 312-8 and we don’t where we could find stickers for it.
Ebay Amazon or a dealer
I have a question has anyone converted a 1980’S John Deere 317 to have power steering?
No they trade for 318’s 😂
Is proper belt tension important on this setup?
Yes belt condition overall is important on transferring proper energy to the blades.
@@Isavetractors any idea where the oil drain is located ? I want to do an oil change
So, my question is: why is it so difficult to raise my bar up to connect to the holders?
How do we install a generator on the tractor to make electric?
You would need more than just a generator to make this electric
Seriously, the deck is simply dropped till it's riding on the anti-scalp wheels, and that's a good cutting height? I've got a 314-8 with the same deck, and I can't seem to get it to cut at a decent height, of about 2-1/2".
Hey Norman, old tractors weigh twice as much and have half the horsepower as today's riding mowers. Is there any advantage to having 24hp on a machine that only cuts grass? Or is this just another example of "more is better" marketing?
One of the best riding mowers I had was a old Cub Cadet 8HP with a three speed. I'm almost positive it had a one gallon gas tank and it would run all day.
Older sidevalve engines were designed to have high torque and with heavy flywheel didn't get bogged down as easy. Modern engines put out higher HP but less lugging torque. The older machines step up blade speed through mechanical advantage and geared differenicals were highly efficient.
Now with power robbing designs: hydrostatic transmissions, extra pulleys and saftey sytems to stop blades quickly using one extra long belt it takes more power just to spin the blades. Older garden tractor have 23" rear tires that make moving the machine easier as well. The final insult is the government mandated E10 ethanol blend gasoline has 10 % less power and the carbs are jetted too lean for max. power and their not adjustable to tune for best performance AND their more cheaply made, prone to clogging especially with E10 gas. Lastly engine SPEED is most important to power the PTO and that speed can be achieved with any size engine. A bigger engine isn't necessary because at 3 mph your engine is spinning at a governed 3600 RPM.
Horse power was rated differently before Vtwins , AN OLD 8 hp is a 16 Or maybe a 15.8 bye today's standards, it's close to 50% I just go with 50 %
i have a 1989 WH model 312-8, meaning so called 12 hp - - use it for everything -- mowing up hills with baggers, snow plowing up slight slope driveway, dirt plowing, roto tiller garden - etc - NEVER ever was it under powered - the hp ratings, plus design of transmission etc are entirely different than decades ago
I keep in chewing up my deck belt? Any ideas?
Sharpness and Heat is what causes belts to fail. To address sharpness, check all the pulleys for any sharp edges especially on idler pulleys. To cheat for excessive heat look for areas where the belt is slipped. When a belt slips it heats up and fails. Remove the belt and spin all the pulleys and feel for friction. This would mean the bearings may need to be replaced on the loose feeling pulleys.
@@Isavetractors already did all of that! And almost everything I could think of ! Thanks for getting back to me
I have a 414-8
As far as generator, I know it would work as Wheel Horse had one in early years!
I will probably buy stand alone for price and get a new Honda motor
My Kohler motor must be 30 to 40 years old!
Title should be, how to install the mower deck on a well maintained Wheelhorse. The one I was just given, and want to remove the deck, seems not well maintained and I can't even get the mule drive off. It's not terribly rusty, but nothing is budging. EDIT: Next day. Problem with the Mule drive is the tension knob must be turned clockwise to relieve the belt tension. Then there's a flat bar section of steel under it, that's big enough to get your hand on, which must be pushed on firmly with one hand while pushing in the spring loaded rod with your other hand, then the Mule drive will come loose. The other problem I found is the previous owner had added a small bolt and nut in front of the 'Attach-a-matic' to prevent the deck coming loose until it is removed. Also, the deck wheels need to be lowered all the way. So I eventually got the deck off, but am going to sell it and try to get a smaller deck. This one is a 60" and is so damn heavy, I could barely move it. I thought the old Gravely implements were heavy, wow. This deck must weigh 200 lbs.
Yea the 60" decks are heavy for sure. My JD400 60" deck must be approaching 300 pounds. It's a back killer.
@@Isavetractors Indeed. Turns out the WH 60" weighs 320 lbs. I happily traded it for a good 48" deck, which only weighs 165 lbs and I'm able to move it, though with a bit of difficulty, by myself : )
i am looking at my neighbors wheel horse 244-h its in his yard and been sitting there for years im not sure if i ask him he will think im looking at all his junk in his yard though i dont want to make anybody mad hes got a lot old craftsman gravely toro wheelhorse and more so yea what do you think how do you say you want someones old tractor with out making it seem rude lol
He norman i picked up (saved) the local junkers they brought by a 93 craftsman gt 6000,, i didn't want it it look like some old mower, to get him out of my hair he wanted 50 i said I dont neeed it had picked up a bowens 1600 , lost of compression one cylynder, started, the hydrostatic worked perfectly, so they rolled the gt 6000 on my pick up, sent them on their way, decided to look at it more turns out it has the original seat on it sndcitscpeerfect, no cut, little red trim hood slighty bent hell i grabbed a bat ,, the starting fluid sat in the seat and turned on the and the motor turned over, splayed a little starting fluid it hit! Wow, float was tuck in the bottom live 20 year old gas, that going to take a awhile, so i started looking closer itsvgot the 3cspd, with hi and low, it was by far the best save ever this thing need a new home but that trannsaxle isclike wow! Ive picked up 2 other transaxle they are beasts, the deck has very little rust, thhe entire chassis just need to car wash , the thing is 27 years old it looks better than most 2 yr old
Im still stunned it hadvto be garage kept,, what a save! Thought you would like the saved part love your videos...Norman..
norman where are you , i miss your videos
Miss you too buddy
That number was off? I tried to call
Make sure to check our office hours. We are open Monday through Saturday
Okay, not so easy, so far it has been over an hour trying to connect the deck. Can't tell what is blood or paint fingers hurt like hell.
That's really strange ----- NONE of my Wheelhorse tractors have an Attach-"O"-matic system on them!
They didn't call it that fancy name until the mid 80's I believe.
You use words like "easy" and "simple".... 😂😂 I have a 520 that I've owned for about 15yrs. While not terribly complicated, I absolutely despise wrestling that deck under and out from under the tractor!!
Help I'm Rob
That belt looks loose