Mating in Captivity: Reconciling Intimacy and Sexuality - Esther Perel

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  • Esther Perel speaking at the Smart Marriages Conference in Orlando, Florida.
    For more relational resources, visit estherperel.com.

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  • @ourson66
    @ourson66 7 ปีที่แล้ว +305

    Esther Perel is absolutely fantastic, she has her finger on the pulse of the human condition like nobody I've ever heard before. I listened to her TED talk on infidelity and now I'm binge-watching all these videos of hers ... she's brilliant!

    • @cainamdead
      @cainamdead 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Steve Sauder same!

    • @Bouchergator09
      @Bouchergator09 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Steve Sauder I want to quote everything she says

    • @catchusontheflipside151
      @catchusontheflipside151 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am doing the same! I listened to her interview with Toby Robbins and holy shit. She is a primer on how to make your relationships work.

    • @dharmakaurkhalsa3923
      @dharmakaurkhalsa3923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steve Sauder. Yeap! same happened to me. She is nailing it!

    • @joannelewis8038
      @joannelewis8038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Clever woman

  • @AngelS-rb9od
    @AngelS-rb9od 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am listening to this while sitting in a hotel where my husband is attending a conference. It was a last minute 'surprise' invitation to tag-along with him on a business trip as he often tags along with me. While he was in conference, I went out and explored the city filled with new sights, sounds etc. We met up for dinner and did a 'roll the dice' to choose where we ate. Our whole weekend together has been what Esther says, the SPACE for mystery, novelty, excitement, playfulness and anticipation. If you are not creating that space in your life and your relationships, both intimate and platonic, it is work worth doing. Eroticism in the form that she describes is truly the antidote to death. EXCELLENT SPEECH and absolutely timeless!

    • @Sebsramirz
      @Sebsramirz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your comment inspires me. Thank you so much

  • @devoragray3357
    @devoragray3357 7 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    "Sometimes the breakdown of desire is also the breakdown of imagination" 5:38. There's a brilliant nugget. Preach it, sister!

  • @theresabogart15
    @theresabogart15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Don't be fooled by thinking because this talk is ten years old it's going to be less potent. Wowowow. The brilliant questions she formulated for this work, which she articulates and answers in the talk are choc full of wisdom and humanity. Favorite quote among many favorites: "Desire is the art of wanting. It's the owning of the wanting in the best sense like any little child you see that says 'I want THAT...."

  • @nadinibrahim8203
    @nadinibrahim8203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    That was one of the best speeches I have ever heard.
    These moments spoke to me the most:
    15:35-17:05
    26:48-27:06
    They made me realize how much control my mom has over my life, and why I feel so scared to do things in my life...and how it could really affect my future.
    This woman is so smart.

  • @tarathomas7889
    @tarathomas7889 9 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love the clarity with which Esther Perel articulates the paradox between intimacy & eroticism, and the way to move through this gridlock to again being separate and creating polarity.

  • @wndw2000
    @wndw2000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I heard Esther Perel speaking on NPR the other day. Absolutely loved her commentary! What a bright and practical person!

  • @gaby5546
    @gaby5546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    22:36 "Tell me how you were loved and I'll tell you how you make love." WOW

  • @passionatebraziliangirl.4801
    @passionatebraziliangirl.4801 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Esther Perel the most refreshing scholar in the philosophy of love and sex thus far, her questions are relationship healing.

  • @aavin89
    @aavin89 9 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Brilliant and extremely insightful presentation

  • @dawnhawkins9699
    @dawnhawkins9699 7 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    What an intelligent & well-spoken woman. i can't wait to read the book.

  • @emilycurtin5373
    @emilycurtin5373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Esther, your work, your spirit, your heart, your LOVE is evident, intelligent and vital. You really walk the talk and boy, you can talk the talk, and deep gratitude for your wisdom, your words and brilliance in putting it all together to make sense of our desires, our wishful destinations, and with helpful pointers/directions for the journey. Thank You!

  • @nicolaablett7790
    @nicolaablett7790 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    eloquent and knowledgeable PASSIONATE AND DELIGHTFUL

  • @kennyethanjones.
    @kennyethanjones. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm mindblown by the acuteness of this talk. Incredible.

  • @stefaniastefi1614
    @stefaniastefi1614 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Putting like even before listening. Always a pleasure to listen to someone so competent 👏

  • @jayneyoung1757
    @jayneyoung1757 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The quote was easy. You can see it in the way he looks at his wife. The actionable based on my understanding is to have that distance, independence and maintain the mystery of "I don't know what might happen next!" The excitement of wanting over needing

  • @mariaangelova8275
    @mariaangelova8275 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this is Incredible!!! Everything I've been thinkingandr feeling for the last god known how many years..she says it all here.....WOW !!!!! This is what I think and believe that relationships and partnerships should be like. This is the journey I want to have in life with a primary partner who feels the same way.

  • @OlgaPuma1977
    @OlgaPuma1977 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ester is so wise and deep! I love all her lectures

  • @thisvagabondlife7132
    @thisvagabondlife7132 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    YOU are genius and I love you..thanks you teacher and reminder...you are a reminder

  • @dianablock1130
    @dianablock1130 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    brilliant and insightful!

  • @AzhaaSoria
    @AzhaaSoria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time hearing this women, absolutely brilliant.

  • @mattgoodmangoodmanlawnmowi2454
    @mattgoodmangoodmanlawnmowi2454 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been a student of this problem all my adult life. She absolutely nailed it better than anyone

  • @GitFiddler13601
    @GitFiddler13601 11 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You have a beautiful mind Esther. Your work is right on and life changing. Thank you for sharing your insight with us.

  • @BarbElgin
    @BarbElgin 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tthank you for sharing your gift!

  • @Levandetag
    @Levandetag 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Imagination is more Important
    .... Great Lesson

  • @encoreadore7341
    @encoreadore7341 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love this woman.

  • @kbaggetto
    @kbaggetto 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very insightful thank you for posting

  • @bentleyasher2
    @bentleyasher2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    outstanding presentation and insights. A must watch for all humans.

  • @Mr.Oct___
    @Mr.Oct___ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very well articulated...bravo.

  • @VincentTruman
    @VincentTruman 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Outstanding presentation.

  • @annarombeshoov1018
    @annarombeshoov1018 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Witty marvelous book.a must read!

  • @Nina-hk7ub
    @Nina-hk7ub 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liked the quote at the very end. How interesting.

  • @90_sGirl
    @90_sGirl ปีที่แล้ว

    This woman continues to blow my mind.

  • @barinaguo5565
    @barinaguo5565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wish i knew her earlier ,such smart intelligent woman who gives me all the guidance

  • @laylah4utube
    @laylah4utube 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    brilliant as always!

  • @lukeburns5746
    @lukeburns5746 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I loved your intro, got the joke too :)
    Your doing great work, i'm fascinated!

  • @pamelakelly5869
    @pamelakelly5869 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You are a gift to all those you listen...Thank you so much!!!!

  • @ewetoobie
    @ewetoobie 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video. Spot on!

  • @justme-fe2sf
    @justme-fe2sf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing. She nails it

  • @skittles2055
    @skittles2055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant! Thank you

  • @Wildchile
    @Wildchile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    she is correct about the reasons ive loved, lost, married, desired, divorced.

  • @3340steve
    @3340steve 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perel is wonderfully insightful concerning the difficulty of reconciling sexual desire and intimacy .

    • @cathyb2967
      @cathyb2967 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      3340steve
      Intimacy can lead to desire .even between two Women ..that was my experience .

  • @troddy3925
    @troddy3925 7 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    They only thing wrong was the crowd. I thought this was amazing and yet the audience was fairly lame and unresponsive to her occasional humor AND overall powerful presentation.

    • @whawkins8636
      @whawkins8636 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      More than likely a bunch of prudes who are not in touch or regulating their responses based on the crowd

    • @augustkoeniger2344
      @augustkoeniger2344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the audience seemed to be paralyzed 😉 you are absolutely right

    • @luisanibal5655
      @luisanibal5655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      remember that the audience doesnt have any mic, they are probably responding but you wouldnt know because the audio comes only from her mic, there is no mic for the people in the crowd

  • @deborahferguson1163
    @deborahferguson1163 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good points!

  • @donaldmay2537
    @donaldmay2537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow she is spot on!

  • @tthomas3794
    @tthomas3794 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great insight!

  • @rxgub
    @rxgub 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love it!

  • @fanya3866
    @fanya3866 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant ! Best laecture! Esther is amaizing!

  • @robyncooper4616
    @robyncooper4616 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love from Australia

  • @clemboslice6427
    @clemboslice6427 ปีที่แล้ว

    People talk about Lacan, and Badiou, and Sartre. But this woman is the Gallic philosopher to whom the entirety of our attention, driven by our fundamental needs, should be directed.

  • @isheanesuburombo3920
    @isheanesuburombo3920 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you are a genius!!

  • @bennryan2
    @bennryan2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    just imagine being with this woman

  • @music.blooming.garden
    @music.blooming.garden 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are amazing.

  • @ancaprodan3685
    @ancaprodan3685 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this

  • @scottherf
    @scottherf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The child on lap/exploring is a perfect analogy.

    • @scottherf
      @scottherf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Obama reference is so cryptic.

  • @billsteinbuechler1145
    @billsteinbuechler1145 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful!

  • @gerardwilson9869
    @gerardwilson9869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A very deep and profound speech which makes you wonder if you should even attempt to enter into an LTR or just be FWB.

    • @Ohkeh640
      @Ohkeh640 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      go with the flow and do what feels right, you shouldn't rush. :) enjoy and good luck sir

  • @lydiabrown3208
    @lydiabrown3208 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    29:34 I couldn't help but think of Buber's I-thou relationship! Amazing description.

  • @emmajenniegardiner
    @emmajenniegardiner 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is brilliant

    • @kimgordon3695
      @kimgordon3695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      20:00 💝

    • @kimgordon3695
      @kimgordon3695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Tell Me how You were loved & I will tell You how You Love..." 💝 Wow

  • @khushivers3
    @khushivers3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hese moments spoke to me the most:
    15:35-17:05
    26:48-27:06

  • @jennleighton7784
    @jennleighton7784 8 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Perhaps the reason some animals in captivity wont breed is a similar answer. They cannot form the natural social bonds they normally would have from spending time moving from group situations to individual situations. How can you be an individual if your kept in a cage (albeit a large one) with a dozen other animals. There is no chance for the child to leave the mother, no novel interactions with other animals, and this impacts their psyche.... huh... oh ya humans are in a cage too, we just have a bigger one ;)

    • @idopointlessthings2
      @idopointlessthings2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's an excellent point 🤔

    • @janja14
      @janja14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or maybe it's just because animals (just like humans) suffer in cages. They usually are both overstessed (seen as high stress hormones and stress induced behavior) and suffer depression, which both can affect sexuality.

    • @kimgordon3695
      @kimgordon3695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahaha

    • @sandworm9528
      @sandworm9528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@janja14 I think this is such a simple explanation, and it's interesting to me that people are more willing to see themselves as deeply psychologically flawed than to see themselves as animals in a cage. The real question is when did the bars descend around us, the industrial revolution? The agricultural revolution? The invention of money? The discovery of fire?

  • @damsonwine3
    @damsonwine3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome.

  • @tanyapeters9831
    @tanyapeters9831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOVE your humor! I so enjoy your talks!

  • @mattgoodmangoodmanlawnmowi2454
    @mattgoodmangoodmanlawnmowi2454 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had to detach from my family of origin to gain my autonomy. Been struggling to deal with my childhood all my life. Successful career but struggled in good relationships.

  • @sona7444
    @sona7444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    how the hell did this woman speak such brilliance to a crowd of apparent livestock!!! wtf is wrong with them?

  • @flowerspititlakay6433
    @flowerspititlakay6433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That last piece on Obama was smh... magnificent!!!

  • @GnosisMan50
    @GnosisMan50 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    amorous love, as we experience it, is not love but sentiment... and what about limerence?

  • @redbose
    @redbose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does someone want to explain Option 3 with the kid? Maybe I'm just aloof but I was left wandering what the details are there.

    • @melbatariq2055
      @melbatariq2055 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The child leaves the adult, breaks the connection. That's how I interpreted it.

  • @AlmaSdance
    @AlmaSdance 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One small correction. It was Oscar Wild not George Bernard Show who said, "in this world there are only two tragedies. One is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it." You've made the same mistake as Frasier Crane in "Frasier". There's a witty exchange between Kate Costas and Frasier over this on the She's the Boss episode.

  • @AKHMADKKFAMILY
    @AKHMADKKFAMILY 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like ❤️

  • @ionutboss1266
    @ionutboss1266 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:30 2 forces need for security and adventure-risc
    14:41 kid example security and safety with adventure and desire, cum see traduce in cupluri bazat pe relative cu parintii,
    I need you to need me
    16:21 I will compromise my freedom for your security - mother ex and kid
    18:00 fire need air, people don't give each other space/air
    21:22 take care of him because I need him. Biggest inhibitor needing. Biggest facilitator being independent Confusion between wanting and needing.

  • @noezwayout76
    @noezwayout76 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Eloquent.

  • @JazzyB4.
    @JazzyB4. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow

  • @jafaralijaffery636
    @jafaralijaffery636 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey ma'am

  • @Shannon_atx
    @Shannon_atx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought this video was about the book ‘Mating In Captivity’. Guess not 🤔

  • @realiti773
    @realiti773 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its 2019 and her eyebrows were better and lower back then.

    • @nialia1000
      @nialia1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Who cares about her eyebrows?

    • @nialia1000
      @nialia1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's what she is talking about we are interested in, not her eyebrows...

  • @adrianchineaamoros3230
    @adrianchineaamoros3230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16:27 An eye opener to understand instead of evaluate, those really kind human beings who are tender and terrifically sensual, yet do not allow them selves to explore and enjoy the revitalizing effect of sex. ❤️

    • @kimgordon3695
      @kimgordon3695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      17:00 & married the one who has the fear of abandonment; coupled with detachment disorder. 💝

  • @8AshleyKnight8
    @8AshleyKnight8 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏👏

  • @EuropesNinja
    @EuropesNinja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Worst crowd ever, this was perfect

  • @TBC_777
    @TBC_777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    But the way she dropped the mic quoting Obama tho 👀🙌🏽♥️

  • @kimgordon3695
    @kimgordon3695 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "My husband makes Salmon on a plank for Me because He knows I love it... & the salad too." 💝

  • @matosison
    @matosison 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I gave my husband space to do what he has always wanted to do, that was when he started his 3 years of infidelity, which I only discovered 15 days ago. What happened then?

    • @sharonromein8278
      @sharonromein8278 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He grew and you didn't, probably.

  • @LSSYLondon
    @LSSYLondon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So let your partner be free to explore with others and know that there is safety in you always being there when they choose to return.

  • @flarosecoulange8044
    @flarosecoulange8044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tell me how you were LOVED and I'll tell you how you make LOVE 💖💖

  • @khushivers3
    @khushivers3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    26:59

  • @nayangohain9983
    @nayangohain9983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    19:00

  • @barnabaschoi
    @barnabaschoi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank for your lecture. Usually women doesn't say sex. They pretend to like just talking.

  • @emmajenniegardiner
    @emmajenniegardiner 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i wonder what men think about this?

    • @briannielsen1609
      @briannielsen1609 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Emma Gardiner absolutely agree. She is right on track and truly understand the details

    • @antitsa
      @antitsa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have read her books and seen most of her videos, many times, over several years. I do not see her ideas as exclusively male or female. She speaks intelligently and with great insight. She speaks truth, which does not have a gender. If it matters, I am male.

  • @macgeek2004
    @macgeek2004 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They held a SMART MARRIAGES conference in FLORIDA?
    Well, I guess you go to where you're needed most...lol!

  • @FranbellaGrooves
    @FranbellaGrooves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The idea that we can accept and justify affairs and infidelity because of human nature, and introducing a third can somehow be the missing link to staying faithful is piss poor. We should focus on sexual communication, honesty and integrity if you want to stay exclusive. I expect more form an authority on this extremely important topic.

  • @11stellar
    @11stellar 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    She explains the problem very well, but no actionable solutions are given unfortunately.

    • @phumisibanyoni1454
      @phumisibanyoni1454 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +11stellar that's what I was looking for as well. I guess she is leaving that to the workshops that you have to attend to get answers...

    • @Bouchergator09
      @Bouchergator09 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      11stellar there is no one solution. take everything that you see and hear and make it your own

    • @evanhadkins5532
      @evanhadkins5532 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I suspect her approach is helping the inner child feel secure in relationship.

    • @evanhadkins5532
      @evanhadkins5532 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      She did talk about making space for the erotic. I.e. setting aside time to just pleasure and enjoy being with each other.

    • @kimgordon3695
      @kimgordon3695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If We don't see the solution in the creating an EROTIC Space We have missed The point 💝

  • @achieng8269
    @achieng8269 8 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    What a dull crowd.

    • @oana1919
      @oana1919 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Very dull :)))

    • @johnnymotshidi
      @johnnymotshidi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      She's making this presentation in the USA. And in Florida, of all place. Not exactly the most astute of places. HAHAHA

    • @Bouchergator09
      @Bouchergator09 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      says people who will never understand the complexities of love. the harder you push back, the more this is true. let the insults begin!

    • @cesarandrade1987
      @cesarandrade1987 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      To be in this presentation is not, ironically, about hedonism, but erudition. You go to a presentation about eroticism and human realtionships to understand eroticism and human relationships, ideally. What you may call dull others call paying attention. I do. It's wanting to make everything a party what ironically decreases the pleasure you get when you genuinely have reasons and means to celebrate. Pleasure begets seriousness, and viceversa. Order and chaos, stability and uncertainty. You can't expect a rock concert reaction in a conference hall. All of this to say, just be easier on others if they don't fullfill yoru expectations.

    • @MACX-eb3cn
      @MACX-eb3cn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they're in shock. lol

  • @JoniAntonio
    @JoniAntonio 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think i need to study some of Nacho Vidals work for help with imagination...

  • @MidasMind
    @MidasMind 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I may just be unwilling to accept the simplest answer, but what do you mean by "the third kid doesn't come back. And we know what happens there."?

    • @TheCicciello
      @TheCicciello 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ***** divorce, breakup. the kid deals with that situation by running away from it. i don't think there is a hidden better answer.

    • @MidasMind
      @MidasMind 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheCicciello
      Thanks. I didn't see that one, fairly enough. Up till now I simply thought she'd been trying to say the kid got killed, which I couldn't understand in the context.

    • @Callisto000
      @Callisto000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Midas Mind The best way to be happy with someone is to learn to be happy alone. That way the company will be a matter of choice.. and not necessity

    • @MidasMind
      @MidasMind 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Callisto000
      While this is good advice I don't understand how it relates to my question, or where it was that I asked for advice.

    • @Callisto000
      @Callisto000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Midas Mind It's simple, it relates to the three imaginary kids she was talking about and how two of them stay because of fear, fear of being alone. The third one makes the right decision and leaves

  • @dianacloudsupernova8331
    @dianacloudsupernova8331 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Victor's Secrets", LOL.

  • @JC-ww4qr
    @JC-ww4qr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    17:55 "The 3rd kid who doesn't come back- and we know what happens there.." ....

  • @joyceraguskus4591
    @joyceraguskus4591 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRY I JUST HEARD ESTHER PEREL/A BELGIUM ON NPR….I THINK YOU WILL FIND HER CONTENT VERY, VERY INTERESTING. TOO I AM INTERESTED IN HER BOOK 'MATING IN CAPTIVITY"….O, MOMA

  • @jessewnts
    @jessewnts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is too bad that the people who need this most, especially those that think they're going to have children and continue on partying like they did before children, and those that aren't married yet, are probably least likely to see it.

  • @sorin816
    @sorin816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think i've found you to late

  • @markgicuru9326
    @markgicuru9326 ปีที่แล้ว

    At first I felt like am in a Chassidic class