Not sure why they used a lot of old videos of Texas before the drydocking. She looks absolutely fantastic now with the hull completely restored and repaired, and with a new paint job.
They're on TV, where there are rules. They can only use what they have permission to use or what they've filmed themselves. And given the fast news cycle, it can be hard to get permission fast enough to make the evening news.
This insult to the USS TEXAS is because one (of many) fish restaurant owner said it would spoil the view from his business, What a load of fish S**t. We all need to boycott this fish joint then he won't have to worry about the view.
You mean improve the view right? It's the freaking BB35 USS Texas!!! That was tourist money this guy will never see. If its close enough to improve your view, its close enough for hungry people after a tour. What a moron. Oh, and every boy of all ages would have been begging mom and dad to go to the fish place to eat and stare at the Battleship. Well., NOPE. Does this guy know he killed the golden goose?
@@militanttriangle2326 Apparently Katie's is already doing fine on business according to some online... But I agree, I don't think the Texas would have hurt the view one bit, and she would have ensured Katie's would always have customers. Apparently the move to put it in front of Katie's was pushed by one of their competitors so I think they immediately decided it was a negative rather than a positive and decided to fight the battleship's placement. The owner of Katie's also said some stuff about how it would cost the city millions if it sunk in the channel during a hurricane and they decided for themselves that the USS Texas wouldn't be able to fund its own maintenance if it stayed as a floating vessel. Their proposal was to move it to the Seawolf Park Naval Museum and rest it on the ground next to the submarine Cavalla and DD Stewart. But having been there in the summer of 2023, I can tell you that SPNM is a great museum but would need a lot of work done to it before it could support the USS Texas and the crowds and student/scout groups she would pull, not to mention the road to the museum is kind of out of the way and less friendly to tourists. As a Texan, one of our coastal cities better take Texas quick. She's a national treasure and deserves to be preserved for generations to come. She's among the last of the dreadnoughts and deserves to be treated as such. Not to mention whoever takes her will most certainly enjoy the draw of tourists for years.
I don’t blame a business owner for not wanting their business destroyed, that location was silly to begin with. I drove by the area about 6 months ago, it’s a very congested area.
Business generally dictates what goes on here. Our own attorney general openly intervened in legal cases on behalf of his rich business buddies. There was even an impeachment but the Lt Gov affirmed that’s just how things work in Texas.
@@robertmcnearny9222 It's more to do with the size of the ship and it potentially blocking valuable views. People couldn't agree where it wouldn't be 'in the way.' Restaurant owners didn't want the ship to dominate their scenic window vistas. The second issue had to do with mooring. The port was concerned about hurricane protection. They didn't want a bazillion ton WWI era dreadnaught breaking free and drifting during storm surge. Third was tourist draw. The restaurant owners didn't want unwanted traffic eating up parking lot spaces that would otherwise be used for their establishments. All real problems, true, its just a shame because Galveston has enough tourist traffic to keep the ship funded through foot traffic alone. The Battleship Foundation feared Beaumont might not be able to do the same.
@@randbarrett8706 They're already paying for it technically. The ship is owned by the people of Texas, managed by the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department.
@@randbarrett8706 oh how little you know. The only reason BB35 was able to acquire the funds for restoration instead of sinking and rusting away in San Jacinto is because of Texas tax payers. And yes, I voted to help pass that bill. Maybe one day if you have children or grand children experiencing history in person they'll be able to have a better understanding of what BB35 USS Texas is besides just a few lwtters and numbers on a screen.
@@joemcnulty6814I mean, people would go the museum and then be hungry, improving business. And when your there eating I’ve gotta imagine an entire freaking battleship would be a cooler view than a bunch of normal boats you can see anywhere
Corpus Christi would be an excellent site for Battleship Texas next to the aircraft carrier Lexington. The infrastructure is already there and Corpus Christi would be the least expensive home for her.
While at first glance it would seem appealing to berth the USS Texas close to the Essex class USS Lexington, in practice, based on other multi-museum ship venues, there isn't a large enough increase in paid admissions to ensure that either ship will get enough funding to make it reasonably certain that they can maintain them. And for museum ships, the name of the game is to get enough paid admissions, etc. to pay for the huge costs of upkeep necessary for any large warship. Multiple museum ships close to each other tend to draw fewer paid admissions per ship than just 1 ship in a good venue alone is likely to draw. This is especially true when you are talking about 2 large ships, that take substantial time for the visitors to tour the ship, and visit the all-important gift shop, when most typical visitors are only willing to spend less than a day to visit. It is quite possible that having the USS Texas berthed close to the USS Lexington would result in less maintenance supporting revenue for the USS Lexington. USS Texas absolutely needs to go to the best location that will give her the best chance to have good and easy public/tourist paid admissions to cover the large ongoing costs to maintain the ship, without reducing the support for another museum ship.
I really wish Houston would grab it and dock it at one of the parks along Buffalo Bayou on the east side. With it only being a few miles from downtown it would get so much more visits.
It would be an insult to injury but they should tow it to the east coast and tie her up with the USS New Jersey or USS Wisconsin. It would kinda cool to have the oldest battleship afloat tied up next to the youngest battleships afloat.
Or put it next to the Intrepid in NYC, which gets way more visitors than the New Jersey. These ships can easily be transported around; it makes sense to put them somewhere with a lot of tourists and residents so you can get enough ticket revenue to fund the ship's upkeep. These small cities being discussed along the shore of Texas just aren't it.
I'm curious as to what caused this decision as I had read last month that the port area voted to host the battleship. Perhaps Galveston doesn't have the tourism to support BB-35. The USS Texas represents more than just a single moment in time, she is the only surviving Super Dreadnaught left, an artifact of D-Day and the invasion of Okinawa. Texas is the reference for how all other museum ships are preparing for long term preservation.
There's literally nowhere else in Texas that has that kind of tourist flow. Right in the heart of Galveston. Right on the Strand. Right next to the major cruise ships. Right next to the Elissa. Just baffles my mind.
a shitty seafood restaurant complained that it would block their view of the sea which they claimed people flocked to their shitty establishment to see and a 2700 signature petition opposing it (that's not even 1% of the population of Galveston)
@@dillondavidson2834 it didnt occur to him Texans LIKE looking at a ship with big guns and a patriotic history of protecting America against invasion? Does... does he understand the people of Texas? Is he from Austin?
Why don't they explore putting the money into the infrastructure in Corpus Christi. Have her right next to the USS Lexington. They are both WW2 ships and the aquarium is also right there. It could be a whole complex with restaurants, shops and hotels.
iirc Battleship New Jersey did a video on that. basically, if there's multiple museum ships in close proximity, they'd end up (not intentionally) stealing customers and from one another
@wembozandco.807 They have several ships together in Massachusetts, and it works for them. I would think a lot of people would like a package deal to check out a ww2 carrier and a ww1/2 battleship together.
@@wembozandco.807 I call BS on this. There's no way you could know this. Every site would be different. I can't even imagine visiting a location with two museum ships and only visiting one....
Lotta people don't seem to realize that this is entirely the fault of Landry's and Katie's for two reasons. Landry's refused to put any stake in the contract by listing themselves when they were going to run the museum for the foundation and make revenue, but wouldn't be responsible if they needed ANY help at all. And Katie's just bitched and bitched about Landry's "destroying their business" despite the fact that Tillman Fertitta has the lease to that dock in front of them, not Katie's. Very happy to see people boycotting their restaurant, the owner and his family are assholes frankly.
I am very surprised Tillman Fertitta is willing to risk the bad will this will cause between himself and the people of Texas. The last thing someone like him want's to hear is the word "Boycott" ! After all, it's not just in Texas. It go's from a casino in Mississippi, all the way to Las Vegas. Plus restaurants all over the country! Not just one fish house in Galveston !
As a CNA, I once took care of a gentleman who sailed and fought on her during WWII. He gave me quite the lecture on how to load and fire the guns. Rest In Peace and thank you for your service Mr. Doty.
I've been to Galveston multiple times. Each time was to see the Texas. I took my kids to it. I drove all the way from another state to view it. We ate seafood there as well. Now tell me, do any of the restaurants I visited suddenly have food so delicious that I'd make the trip for them alone? Wherever the Texas finds a home will also be the new place of my tourism spending. Can't wait to see how they refurbished Old Hoodoo.
The problem is money. It cost a lot to host and maintain a museum ship. The State of Texas should step up and offer to pay 1/2 to 3/4 of the cost of hosting and maintaining the USS Texas BB-35. Then lots of cities would be interested. I note that the State of New Jersey pays part of the cost to host and maintain the USS New Jersey; and paid a good chunk of the money needed for its recent dry docking where the hull was repaired and re-coated along with other minor maintenance. I understand that the USS Texas also underwent a similar drydocking for hull and other repairs and recoating.
@@ErikPT Please contact your State Senator, Reprsentitives (or whatever you call them) and Governers office and let them know that. Better yet start a group that pressures the State to partially fund the hosting and upkeep of the ship. This is something you can do; and I would think is a no brainier. But what do I know. I think the Presidential Election is a no brainier as well as there are two very fundamental different types of governments and how things run being offered with different results. Yet, it seems about half of the voting public seems to disagree with my position.
Since Galveston waterfront businesses don't want the battleship moored at Pier 21 because it might obstruct their harbor view, I believe that Galveston should lose out on keeping the USS Texas. A great location would be moored close to the USS Lexington aircraft carrier in Corpus Christi, Texas. There you would have two iconic WWII warships which would draw in tourists from all over the USA as well as from foreign countries.
The state of Texas has been a poor custodian for such a historic piece of American history. They spent 35millon dollars on environmental studies and engineering proposals for various types of permanent holding dry docks/ dry (OUT OF WATER) Desplays ect ect .this was in 2013 not a penny for restoration or maintenance, someone got rich and the monument was left to rot but hey alot of engineers and environmental studies people got paid bank.
Uh... please do just a little bit more research on the restoration work done to the USS Texas in the last few years. She's had LOTS of money spent on her.
The city of Galveston should be proud to get the last dreadnaught battleship of its kind its historic but I guess the city thinks it’s too good for it. What a shame!!!!!!
Sad to see such an icon looking for a new home. As someone from the North East I’ve been waiting for the restoration to be complete and finally get to make my first trip to the great state of Texas with the center of the trip being based around this historical hero of a ship. Always heard nice things about Galveston, actually wanted to move to that particular city when I was a young and hungry firefighter haha, but I guess my trip will be in another city! And that’s just fine, can’t wait to see her all done up and stay, shop, and eat in whatever community takes her!
@stevencramsie9172 That american pride was a farce, and that their new betterer plan is to strip down what's left of America for a new USSA, where they make everything happy. 🤣👍
@@stevencramsie9172I see part of it through constant scrutiny through modern eyes only and public erasure of historically important documents or ideas. The us was never supposed to have a verboten for all. Just a verboten list for those under certain ages. Or if it was private. Not public corporations, not bureaucracy, not political/religious groups.
I heard that it originally had the sound-power phone headsets, and the emergency bills (I believe), as all of that was left aboard by the USN. But souvenir hunters stole everything. The USS Texas (BB 35) was the very first US Navy museum ship, I was told.
The government in Texas needs to pull their heads out of the sand and put this ship somewhere that she can draw large crowds and be taken care of. This ship is the only one of her kind left. She may be named Texas but she is a true national treasure. Millions were finally come up with to get her into dry dock and fix her issues with leaking and such but she's beautifully repainted now and deserves to be docked and honored for many years to come. You would think that the state would step in and find her a home and fun it if necessary. Take some of those millions spent each year on illegals and put that into finding this ship a permanent home and fund her upkeep if necessary.
The State of New Jersey partially funds the upkeep and maintenance of the USS New Jersey. The State of Texas should do the same, and at a level that makes it financially viable for cities to handle the rest of the cost. Hosting and maintaining a museum ship does cost money.
I know! It is very upsetting with the SSUS situation and is embarrasing. That ship shows exactly the condition and attitude that this nation has turned out to be!
@@starxlr7863The United States is in a very different situation though. Both material condition wise and artifact wise. The Texas is largely a complete vessel. The United States is largely a shell. The Texas just recently underwent a major dry docking. The United States hasn’t been dry docked in 30+ years.
BTF is the fool here. They refused to pay the insurance premiums necessary and are financially insolvent. Watch them beg the TX taxpayers for more money next year only to refuse to thank them like they always do. BTF is one of the most smug groups there is out there, LARPing like they own Texas when Texas belongs to the people of Texas and they are merely the equivalent of a janitor. When BTF received another $25M in mid-2023 they didn't even bother to thank the people of Texas and they pretended like they raised all that money by themselves via private donations 🤣
It's not just the cost of building the infrastructure to accommodate it. It's also a matter of coughing up the money for regular maintenance and upkeep. The money has gotta come from somewhere and the price tag for regular upkeep is the same reason that battleships got retired: battleships are super expensive to maintain. If you want to keep your source of patriotism above the waves, you gotta pay BIG MONEY
That is something a lot of people over look. I remember hearing of some historic village site on the east coast some years back. They were some kind of state heritage site and could only use materials and techniques of the times for their construction to maintain them. Problem was no one made materials using those techniques (and in many cases those materials) anymore. So every maintenance project was an expensive one requiring the hiring of special people to not only do the work, but to manufacture the materials on site. No amount of tourist tickets could cover that cost. And it is the same with the USS Texas. To properly maintain that ship (or any ship) requires not only money, but thousands (possibly millions) of man-hours of work regularly. As a veteran of the Navy I can tell you that salt water and air are no friend to a ship at all.
I am from Alabama and I remember touring the USS Texas as a kid back in the late 60s when visiting my sister who lived in Houston at the time. Amazing piece of history. Hope the city of Beaumont and the state come to her rescue.
I guarantee the next thing we will hear about this ship is that its going to become an "artificial reef" its happening to the U.S.S. United States, another ship with historical significance. This is unbelievable. These tycoons will swing their purse at the most ridiculous things but when it comes to anything like preserving history is just out of the question. I get the concept of needing some kind of return on investment but sometimes isnt the knowledge that you helped preserve a national monument so the comimg generations can behold it enough of a return?
There is absolutely no reason to believe that. The situations are completely, utterly different. The United States has been gutted with no interior for what, 30+ years? She hasn't had any real work done in many decades. It would have been hundreds of millions of dollars to get her ready to show. The Texas has an interior, and she's will be just coming off of a huge drydock period. She's probably in better shape hull-wise than she's been since the beginning of WW2. She could be set up as a museum again very quickly once the shore-side parts were ready.
@@fsodn I tend to agree. The United States, from videos I have seen, has been neglected for a long time (not assigning blame). The Texas drydock was extensive. The ship has new life pumped back into her.
Story is t complete. The texas didnt finish the deal to secure its funding like agreed upon. So the deal went south. Theres a restaurant that has an issue with its placement, but the dock owners have the ability to use another slip. So basically comes down to money.
No they wanted to move her from pier 21 to pier 19 that is more out of the way and less foot traffic because "*atie’s Seaf**d H*use" says it will spoil his customers view if it is at pier 21.
@@Bum-gh2zinah don’t censor it “Katie’s Seafood House” That man must be allergic to money because having a tourist magnet steps away from your door is a money printer
South Alabama here (Born Mobile,now Atlanta).Agreed.The Battleship Park is an amazing,and outstanding,repository of all manner of American Military icons.The "Texas" would be a wondeful addition.
If you're a tourist you don't want to be outside at night on Galveston Island! A lot has changed since my first visit in 1968, when our car got broken into at night and everything stolen. Now it's a lot worse, they do their crimes in broad daylight! I wouldn't want to go to Galveston to see the "Battleship Texas." Not worth the risk!
So Galveston is just going to give up on an iconic piece of American history? I hope the old warrior finds a loving and caring home. She would be more than welcomed to come to Baton Rouge and moored next to the USS Kidd. I would visit her every weekend!
Beaumont offers absolutely nothing of value and will just be another place for the Battleship to go die. Think USS Orleck in Orange only with a much bigger downside. No one is going to Beaumont for anything other than the Battleship if they put it there which means you've got the San Jacinto Battleground all over again. The only way this works is if you have a collection of attractions that collectively bring in paying customers to come see the ship like you find in Galveston. A food truck park on one end with a restored park in the middle. Wow. That's your pitch? If it doesn't go to Galveston it will end up in bad shape again in no time at all.
This ship needs to be given a new home asap. It's truly the only surviving dreadnaught today. It played a vital roll in the D-Day invasion, supplying artillery fire for the landing and the days after. An iconic ship to say the least.
It is so sad to see such rare New York class battleship Texas being tossed around, with no city wants to shell out the money to rehome her. The Texas is extremely rare, a predecessor of the Pennsylvania battleship class (same as the sunken Arizona at Pearl Harbor). Few would have the privilege to see and touch this historic piece. Even now, the future home of the Texas is unknown.
Certainly someone has done the cost and revenue projections based on other floating military museums across the country, and Galveston didn't believe they could at least break even.
How?? How would they refuse the grand old lady who fought through wars carrying the flag of her the land she serve, I hope they can somehow tow her to pearl harbor and unite with the Missouri guarding the Arizona fallen Dreadnought
She was given to the State of Texas. The State gave the USS Texas Foundation a ton of money to have her restored. WHICH has happened. She's been in dry dock for years. She's got all new skin on the torpedo bulges. The money spent shining her up has her sound enough they could tow her anywhere the wanted. When she left San Jacinto they were worried she'd sink before she got to Galveston. THAT, is no longer the case. She's in no danger of going to the bottom of the sea. She just needs a home where the community cares about her. Galveston wants to put her in Seawolf Park. But Seawolf park is on the wrong side of the causeway from where all the visitors are at. Nobody but locals go over there. As a result she'd in the same trouble with not enough visitors as she was in San Jacinto. So the USS Texas Foundation has said no, we aren't putting her over there several times.
@@garygsp3 That is the problem now, She is now is great shape but she is not renovated to be an active ship but a museum still, I just wish she will get a new home as fast as possible, She is one of the oldest remnants of Naval supremacy with so many battles in her name, maybe Pearl Harbor may be a possible candidate for her permanent home, The USS Missouri and the Arizona Memorial has tons of visitors daily, who knows, maybe the Old Texas, last dreadnought being there can be a great addition and USS Texas near the Missouri can be a sight to behold and Texas guarding the Arizona as well, two dreadnoughts.
@@DavidJones-me7yr Wasn't really a restore... This dry dock they've replaced substantial steel, removed collapsing torpedo bulges (they're now only above the water line and not holding water) They've taken out TONS of foam they though would hold out water that just ended up retaining it... a whole lot more done this round.
@@DavidJones-me7yr Those were all old videos of her, she looks great right now and is completing painting of her above water line now as well as some final work on her super structure.
Corpus Christi is the perfect place for it, next to the USS Lexington and the Texas State Aquarium. This would be a great addition to an already good tourist attraction and would help further develop the area.
Funding is always an issue with these museum ships.. They do well for the first couple of years. Then it's "Been there, Done that" ! It's hard enough to support one, much less "two" !
@ The Texas has to go somewhere and the only two logical places are Galveston and Corpus Christi. The old anchorage at San Jacinto battlefield was fine but problematic from a ship preservation standpoint. Beaumont would be an AWFUL location since it’s too far away from major populated areas .
i went to the Midway and you guys have an amazing ship already. i would love to see Texas with a carrier but shes is sadly looking to be a Solo attraction so there no chance that they will put her with another ship
San Diego honestly makes a lot of sense financially. There is a TON of foot traffic in and around that area and with Coronado literally a stones throw away. The Texas could literally look across the harbor at her modern contemporaries. According the the Internet the USS Midway museum grossed over 23 million dollars in 2023. That’s ALOT of cash.
Battleship Park in Mobile Alabama has more than enough room,people and visitors. Plus USS Alabama has had a few renovations done to her recently with more planned and their living crew reenactments are never a bore.
As a Texan, I hope they keep the battleship and relocate to Galveston. This historic battleship served in World War 1 and 2, especially in the Battle of Normandy (D-Day)
What a sad shame! The home of the Elissa, with so much history in their borders and on their shores, and they pass up the chance to have the century-old Battleship Texas! If not Galveston, then how about Corpus Christi, right next to the Lexington?
With as much money as we spend on our defense budget the US should just take USS Texas, Iowa, and Missouri and restore and retrofit them and give them to the Marine Corps. Nothing more terrifying then the worlds best fighting force pulling up on floating guns
running those boilers would be economically unfeasable not only due to fuel cost but maintenance and needing a skilled workforce to run them. then you have insurance to worry about. a lot more can go wrong sailing about vs being static. lastly the us navy doesnt want the engineering plants reactivated on ships they give out as museums even if all that wasnt an issue. its written into their contracts.
The prop shafts were cut off when it became a museum, and the rudder mechanism is stuck fast. Those engines also haven't been used since before it became a museum, there's zero possibility of making the ship run.
Not to mention there are a limited number of ports where a ship her size could dock, where there weren't security/safety concerns or where she wouldn't get in the way of operations.
I'm not a native Texan but I'm damned proud to live here now. I'm ashamed of how badly a historic monument like the USS Texas is being treated. I thought of Galveston as a tawdry and second rate location for her and by god they went and proved me right. Better get on the ball before a town in Louisiana shows an interest in hosting her.
This has got to be one of the stupidest things the City of Galveston has done. Are you kidding me. Something tells me that they are going to regret this.
Unless I'm mistaken, the Battleship USS Texas is the only remaining World War I battleship or capital ship! one-of-a-kind That alone should be enough for permanent preservation and Beaumont is an IDEAL spot. USS Texas is historically rare as USS Constitution - a BIG treasure, named Texas too! She looks great after her recent dry-dock. Man, that lady means business. Go get yur destiny Beaumont. She's pretty as WW I can get.
the issue is does the city get enough tourism for her to get the funds she needs. the big reason she was in such a sad state was where she was orignally put turned out to be a bad tourism spot
@@Revkor There ARE, I assume many others like me who are (American) maritime historical aficionados, e.g., that ONLY go places where attractions that have historical meaning yield memories we apply afterwards in accounts by these sailors who sailed in them, . . . that we enjoy throughout the years AFTER the vacations over, e.g. ideas of scale, materials used then are all different and ingeniously used, consistently, yielding new dimensions, as much as the "third eye" of higher consciousness of the historical circumstances to the point of understanding everything that happened, why, how, where, when, what and who is why Beaumont should permanently berth the USS Texas as THE most fit AND attractive thing the city could get to attract tourists, all things considered, under the circumstances ALONG with an historically very rare artifact that is one-of-a-kind: a World War I battleship (named Texas! too) What could be better?
Beaumont would be a good choice, and they were definitely enthusiastic about the possibility. Would have been nice back in the day to go to Lamar Fire Academy and use any downtime to wander over and tour the ship.
I was recently on a boat tour of Galveston Harbor area, the Texas was the prime highlight. This is a big loss for Galveston. With losing the banana facilities, isn't tourism becoming more & more important to Galveston?
the city fathers should realize that the Texas is worth more than 1 restaurant,....they should also have numbers that demonstrate the ship is a worthwhile cause if they are actually capable of carrying out the performance of their position ...
Katie’s Seafood restaurant, you are NOT ruining the view by adding the last dreadnought and pride or Texas. Such a proximity to a such a great monument will make business great, you are getting loads of foot traffic and tourists with the Texas in close proximity.
Wait exactly what's going on with all these historic naval vessels getting into trouble left, right and center? First the James Bond one, then the SS United States, now BB Texas :/ Also, why use her pre-drydock footage making the Texas look like a hulk? Are ya'll angling this in such a way that WW2 efforts need to be forgotten and the vessel ought to be scrapped? Because that's EXACTLY the vibe you're giving off lol
If some city dims dont want one of the coolest battleships left, north carolina or alabama would love having her in the squadron. Im sure even florida would love having texas guarding st pete, key west or st augstine... I hope she finds a great spot. And not in some breaker yard..
So the USS New Jersey is the last ww2 battleship....and the Texas is the last ww1 & ww2 battleship! I'm sorry but why TF are we not caring about our history?? I get we can't save them all but this ship is like the USS New Jersey she needs respect and if Galveston can't respect her then move her to a place that respects history! Of all the states i never would of thought Galveston would do this to their own war ship! It is the last floating ww1-ww2 battleship in the world...that i know of! Come on people WAKE up!
@@ClarencegHamm Also you act like we do this shit all the time! No we don't! This is only the second restore ship in my life that i seen...you're over there thinking we do this shit every year lol.
Americans care more about the next football score than their own history. The monthly electric bill on the stadium lights at any US high school is usually more than the entire year's budget for non-sports curriculum and it is the volley ball coach teaching history.
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Not sure why they used a lot of old videos of Texas before the drydocking. She looks absolutely fantastic now with the hull completely restored and repaired, and with a new paint job.
they're pushing an agenda
I was thinking the same?????
Media is Anti-Military and Anti-History etc etc, so they are eager to make it look bad etc.
They're on TV, where there are rules. They can only use what they have permission to use or what they've filmed themselves. And given the fast news cycle, it can be hard to get permission fast enough to make the evening news.
The MSM lives by lies, these old shots of the near-derelict Texas aligns with their agenda.
This insult to the USS TEXAS is because one (of many) fish restaurant owner said it would spoil the view from his business, What a load of fish S**t. We all need to boycott this fish joint then he won't have to worry about the view.
Found the liberal! Take your cancel culture somewhere else.
You mean improve the view right? It's the freaking BB35 USS Texas!!! That was tourist money this guy will never see. If its close enough to improve your view, its close enough for hungry people after a tour. What a moron. Oh, and every boy of all ages would have been begging mom and dad to go to the fish place to eat and stare at the Battleship. Well., NOPE. Does this guy know he killed the golden goose?
I'll certainly going to boycott it, but then again I live in the Netherlands.
@@militanttriangle2326 Apparently Katie's is already doing fine on business according to some online... But I agree, I don't think the Texas would have hurt the view one bit, and she would have ensured Katie's would always have customers. Apparently the move to put it in front of Katie's was pushed by one of their competitors so I think they immediately decided it was a negative rather than a positive and decided to fight the battleship's placement.
The owner of Katie's also said some stuff about how it would cost the city millions if it sunk in the channel during a hurricane and they decided for themselves that the USS Texas wouldn't be able to fund its own maintenance if it stayed as a floating vessel. Their proposal was to move it to the Seawolf Park Naval Museum and rest it on the ground next to the submarine Cavalla and DD Stewart. But having been there in the summer of 2023, I can tell you that SPNM is a great museum but would need a lot of work done to it before it could support the USS Texas and the crowds and student/scout groups she would pull, not to mention the road to the museum is kind of out of the way and less friendly to tourists.
As a Texan, one of our coastal cities better take Texas quick. She's a national treasure and deserves to be preserved for generations to come. She's among the last of the dreadnoughts and deserves to be treated as such. Not to mention whoever takes her will most certainly enjoy the draw of tourists for years.
I would also boycott it but I also live in the Netherlands.
For those of you in Galveston who are looking for those responsible "Katie’s Seafood House" is responsible for this falling through.
I don’t blame a business owner for not wanting their business destroyed, that location was silly to begin with. I drove by the area about 6 months ago, it’s a very congested area.
@@edward5979 Heaven forbid there'd be more foot traffic near a restaurant!
@@tonydagostino6158it had nothing to do with traffic. They complained that the ship would obstruct their view of the ship channel.
...how is the battleship keeping people away from a restaurant? i honestly do not know so i am asking?
Business generally dictates what goes on here. Our own attorney general openly intervened in legal cases on behalf of his rich business buddies. There was even an impeachment but the Lt Gov affirmed that’s just how things work in Texas.
Too bad Galveston is too hard-headed to hang on to her....
It costs money to park the ship somewhere
It costs a lot of money. Maybe the people don't want to pay for it anymore.
@@robertmcnearny9222 It's more to do with the size of the ship and it potentially blocking valuable views. People couldn't agree where it wouldn't be 'in the way.' Restaurant owners didn't want the ship to dominate their scenic window vistas. The second issue had to do with mooring. The port was concerned about hurricane protection. They didn't want a bazillion ton WWI era dreadnaught breaking free and drifting during storm surge. Third was tourist draw. The restaurant owners didn't want unwanted traffic eating up parking lot spaces that would otherwise be used for their establishments. All real problems, true, its just a shame because Galveston has enough tourist traffic to keep the ship funded through foot traffic alone. The Battleship Foundation feared Beaumont might not be able to do the same.
Liberal nimby: Waah not in my backyard. Waah.
I haven’t seen Texans take good care of the Texas over the years.
Imagine turning down a major tourist attraction and a symbol of Texas pride.
Over a Stinky Fish House ?
Apparently, the only thing that’s not bigger in Galveston is their patriotism
So true
Galveston sucks, it's a dirty, backwards city
Easy to say when the burden is all on Galveston. The state should take over but then that would require spending some of your money, wouldn’t it?
@@randbarrett8706 They're already paying for it technically. The ship is owned by the people of Texas, managed by the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department.
@@randbarrett8706 oh how little you know. The only reason BB35 was able to acquire the funds for restoration instead of sinking and rusting away in San Jacinto is because of Texas tax payers. And yes, I voted to help pass that bill. Maybe one day if you have children or grand children experiencing history in person they'll be able to have a better understanding of what BB35 USS Texas is besides just a few lwtters and numbers on a screen.
Screw the business owner. A battleship museum doesn't spoil your view. It adds to it.
That's your opinion
@@joemcnulty6814The correct one
@@joemcnulty6814I mean, people would go the museum and then be hungry, improving business. And when your there eating I’ve gotta imagine an entire freaking battleship would be a cooler view than a bunch of normal boats you can see anywhere
I would also like to have lunch or some sort of meal, while sitting on the Texas. That would be awesome too I think
@@santiagoperez3024 "correct" opinion KEK
Corpus Christi - right down the row from The Blue Ghost Lexington. What a fun tour day that would be.
Corpus Christi would be an excellent site for Battleship Texas next to the aircraft carrier Lexington. The infrastructure is already there and Corpus Christi would be the least expensive home for her.
This is exactly where it should go. the Lexington and the Texas right next to each other would be a big success
This is exactly my thought. There is already a spot for it.
While at first glance it would seem appealing to berth the USS Texas close to the Essex class USS Lexington, in practice, based on other multi-museum ship venues, there isn't a large enough increase in paid admissions to ensure that either ship will get enough funding to make it reasonably certain that they can maintain them. And for museum ships, the name of the game is to get enough paid admissions, etc. to pay for the huge costs of upkeep necessary for any large warship. Multiple museum ships close to each other tend to draw fewer paid admissions per ship than just 1 ship in a good venue alone is likely to draw. This is especially true when you are talking about 2 large ships, that take substantial time for the visitors to tour the ship, and visit the all-important gift shop, when most typical visitors are only willing to spend less than a day to visit. It is quite possible that having the USS Texas berthed close to the USS Lexington would result in less maintenance supporting revenue for the USS Lexington. USS Texas absolutely needs to go to the best location that will give her the best chance to have good and easy public/tourist paid admissions to cover the large ongoing costs to maintain the ship, without reducing the support for another museum ship.
One thing that worries me about that is Lexington hasn't been dry dock since it arrived in corpus Christi in 94
I really wish Houston would grab it and dock it at one of the parks along Buffalo Bayou on the east side. With it only being a few miles from downtown it would get so much more visits.
In that case they ought to reassemble it on the damn River Walk 😂
Port Houston could have it near city dock one and it’s not used much. It’d be right at the east end
Houston would have it repainted to gay colors
@@Chanchezbawan Why? The name "Texas" is gay enough.
@Gerhardium If your logic is correct, then all other states are gay-er. So if houston had it, it would make it mega gay
It would be an insult to injury but they should tow it to the east coast and tie her up with the USS New Jersey or USS Wisconsin. It would kinda cool to have the oldest battleship afloat tied up next to the youngest battleships afloat.
I'm sure Ryan would be all for this idea lol
Or put it next to the Intrepid in NYC, which gets way more visitors than the New Jersey. These ships can easily be transported around; it makes sense to put them somewhere with a lot of tourists and residents so you can get enough ticket revenue to fund the ship's upkeep.
These small cities being discussed along the shore of Texas just aren't it.
We'll find a way to make room for her near the showboat. I've got a shovel and some spare time.
“Hi, I’m Ryan Szimanski, curator for Battleships New Jersey and Texas Museum and Memorial…”
@@F-Manmakes sense to me
My grandfathers ship from 1943 to 46. He was a radarman.
I'm curious as to what caused this decision as I had read last month that the port area voted to host the battleship. Perhaps Galveston doesn't have the tourism to support BB-35. The USS Texas represents more than just a single moment in time, she is the only surviving Super Dreadnaught left, an artifact of D-Day and the invasion of Okinawa. Texas is the reference for how all other museum ships are preparing for long term preservation.
There's literally nowhere else in Texas that has that kind of tourist flow. Right in the heart of Galveston. Right on the Strand. Right next to the major cruise ships. Right next to the Elissa. Just baffles my mind.
a shitty seafood restaurant complained that it would block their view of the sea which they claimed people flocked to their shitty establishment to see and a 2700 signature petition opposing it (that's not even 1% of the population of Galveston)
per @michaelreedx6823 "Katie’s Seafood House" is responsible for this falling through.
The billionaire who leases the wharf space was opposed to the ship blocking views from his restaurants
@@dillondavidson2834 it didnt occur to him Texans LIKE looking at a ship with big guns and a patriotic history of protecting America against invasion? Does... does he understand the people of Texas? Is he from Austin?
Why don't they explore putting the money into the infrastructure in Corpus Christi. Have her right next to the USS Lexington. They are both WW2 ships and the aquarium is also right there. It could be a whole complex with restaurants, shops and hotels.
I agree.
The best option. Easily
iirc Battleship New Jersey did a video on that. basically, if there's multiple museum ships in close proximity, they'd end up (not intentionally) stealing customers and from one another
@wembozandco.807 They have several ships together in Massachusetts, and it works for them. I would think a lot of people would like a package deal to check out a ww2 carrier and a ww1/2 battleship together.
@@wembozandco.807 I call BS on this. There's no way you could know this. Every site would be different.
I can't even imagine visiting a location with two museum ships and only visiting one....
Lotta people don't seem to realize that this is entirely the fault of Landry's and Katie's for two reasons. Landry's refused to put any stake in the contract by listing themselves when they were going to run the museum for the foundation and make revenue, but wouldn't be responsible if they needed ANY help at all. And Katie's just bitched and bitched about Landry's "destroying their business" despite the fact that Tillman Fertitta has the lease to that dock in front of them, not Katie's. Very happy to see people boycotting their restaurant, the owner and his family are assholes frankly.
I am very surprised Tillman Fertitta is willing to risk the bad will this will cause between himself and the people of Texas. The last thing someone like him want's to hear is the word "Boycott" ! After all, it's not just in Texas. It go's from a casino in Mississippi, all the way to Las Vegas. Plus restaurants all over the country! Not just one fish house in Galveston !
As a CNA, I once took care of a gentleman who sailed and fought on her during WWII. He gave me quite the lecture on how to load and fire the guns. Rest In Peace and thank you for your service Mr. Doty.
I've been to Galveston multiple times. Each time was to see the Texas. I took my kids to it. I drove all the way from another state to view it. We ate seafood there as well. Now tell me, do any of the restaurants I visited suddenly have food so delicious that I'd make the trip for them alone? Wherever the Texas finds a home will also be the new place of my tourism spending. Can't wait to see how they refurbished Old Hoodoo.
You are in the "minority" Sir !
Every Texas city that could have this ship should be fighting over her.
I’d love to see them try and get it to me in San Antonio 😅
San Antonio with this ship, what a juggernaut of a destination San Antonio would become. An absurdly Texan city...
The problem is money. It cost a lot to host and maintain a museum ship. The State of Texas should step up and offer to pay 1/2 to 3/4 of the cost of hosting and maintaining the USS Texas BB-35. Then lots of cities would be interested.
I note that the State of New Jersey pays part of the cost to host and maintain the USS New Jersey; and paid a good chunk of the money needed for its recent dry docking where the hull was repaired and re-coated along with other minor maintenance.
I understand that the USS Texas also underwent a similar drydocking for hull and other repairs and recoating.
@@perryallan3524I’m a Texan and view the ship as vital, herefor I’d love to pay taxes for this cause
@@ErikPT Please contact your State Senator, Reprsentitives (or whatever you call them) and Governers office and let them know that.
Better yet start a group that pressures the State to partially fund the hosting and upkeep of the ship.
This is something you can do; and I would think is a no brainier.
But what do I know. I think the Presidential Election is a no brainier as well as there are two very fundamental different types of governments and how things run being offered with different results. Yet, it seems about half of the voting public seems to disagree with my position.
move it to Corpse Christi and dock it across from the USS Lexington
I thought the USS Lexington sank?
@@Green-aider Thats the original Lexington. The one in Corpus is the second Lexington.
problem with that is with multiple museum ships in close proximity, they'd end up (unintentionally) stealing potential customers from each other :/
Good idea.
Corpus already said they don't want her
Since Galveston waterfront businesses don't want the battleship moored at Pier 21 because it might obstruct their harbor view, I believe that Galveston should lose out on keeping the USS Texas. A great location would be moored close to the USS Lexington aircraft carrier in Corpus Christi, Texas. There you would have two iconic WWII warships which would draw in tourists from all over the USA as well as from foreign countries.
Corpus said no months ago
It is an enormous liability.
May every patriot boycott the shithole tourist traps that stopped this.
Why? This thing isn't worth it. I'm the biggest patriot there ever was, and still am. I'll go where I please. Just not this shithole of a BB.
The state of Texas has been a poor custodian for such a historic piece of American history. They spent 35millon dollars on environmental studies and engineering proposals for various types of permanent holding dry docks/ dry (OUT OF WATER) Desplays ect ect .this was in 2013 not a penny for restoration or maintenance, someone got rich and the monument was left to rot but hey alot of engineers and environmental studies people got paid bank.
Texas is a poorly run state in general. I’m sure this battleship can’t wait to get as far away from its power grid as possible
Uh... please do just a little bit more research on the restoration work done to the USS Texas in the last few years. She's had LOTS of money spent on her.
@@garygsp3 Only in the last few years is the key phrase here. She was poorly maintained and poorly managed while in San Jacinto Park.
@@shane011471 Last few years is better than never spending it. That's how you end up with the USS United States.
@@stevencramsie9172 That'a why so many people are moving here. smh
The city of Galveston should be proud to get the last dreadnaught battleship of its kind its historic but I guess the city thinks it’s too good for it. What a shame!!!!!!
Woke city!
Sad to see such an icon looking for a new home. As someone from the North East I’ve been waiting for the restoration to be complete and finally get to make my first trip to the great state of Texas with the center of the trip being based around this historical hero of a ship. Always heard nice things about Galveston, actually wanted to move to that particular city when I was a young and hungry firefighter haha, but I guess my trip will be in another city! And that’s just fine, can’t wait to see her all done up and stay, shop, and eat in whatever community takes her!
Some fools with money and influence swinging it around. Consider it part of the rewrite of history that's been going on for a generation.
What “rewrite” of history are you referring to?
@stevencramsie9172 That american pride was a farce, and that their new betterer plan is to strip down what's left of America for a new USSA, where they make everything happy. 🤣👍
@@stevencramsie9172I see part of it through constant scrutiny through modern eyes only and public erasure of historically important documents or ideas. The us was never supposed to have a verboten for all. Just a verboten list for those under certain ages. Or if it was private. Not public corporations, not bureaucracy, not political/religious groups.
@@stevencramsie9172 Probably something racist.
@@stevencramsie9172 Some looney BS most likely.
I toured the Texas 40years ago. It was pretty cool.!❤
I heard that it originally had the sound-power phone headsets, and the emergency bills (I believe), as all of that was left aboard by the USN. But souvenir hunters stole everything. The USS Texas (BB 35) was the very first US Navy museum ship, I was told.
The government in Texas needs to pull their heads out of the sand and put this ship somewhere that she can draw large crowds and be taken care of. This ship is the only one of her kind left. She may be named Texas but she is a true national treasure. Millions were finally come up with to get her into dry dock and fix her issues with leaking and such but she's beautifully repainted now and deserves to be docked and honored for many years to come. You would think that the state would step in and find her a home and fun it if necessary. Take some of those millions spent each year on illegals and put that into finding this ship a permanent home and fund her upkeep if necessary.
The State of New Jersey partially funds the upkeep and maintenance of the USS New Jersey. The State of Texas should do the same, and at a level that makes it financially viable for cities to handle the rest of the cost. Hosting and maintaining a museum ship does cost money.
@@perryallan3524 The state of Texas *has* been funding it for quite a while. Go look at where most of the funds for this drydocking came from.
Leave GOVZILLA outnof it....Texas Gov is tops it is waaaaaay better than DC Cali etc..., i just saying
Please go to your local shelter and adopt a senior battleship now and give them a forever home
Hope she doesn’t end up in a situation like United States
I know! It is very upsetting with the SSUS situation and is embarrasing. That ship shows exactly the condition and attitude that this nation has turned out to be!
@@starxlr7863The United States is in a very different situation though. Both material condition wise and artifact wise. The Texas is largely a complete vessel. The United States is largely a shell. The Texas just recently underwent a major dry docking. The United States hasn’t been dry docked in 30+ years.
Buncha fools in Galveston
BTF is the fool here. They refused to pay the insurance premiums necessary and are financially insolvent. Watch them beg the TX taxpayers for more money next year only to refuse to thank them like they always do. BTF is one of the most smug groups there is out there, LARPing like they own Texas when Texas belongs to the people of Texas and they are merely the equivalent of a janitor.
When BTF received another $25M in mid-2023 they didn't even bother to thank the people of Texas and they pretended like they raised all that money by themselves via private donations 🤣
It's not just the cost of building the infrastructure to accommodate it. It's also a matter of coughing up the money for regular maintenance and upkeep. The money has gotta come from somewhere and the price tag for regular upkeep is the same reason that battleships got retired: battleships are super expensive to maintain.
If you want to keep your source of patriotism above the waves, you gotta pay BIG MONEY
That is something a lot of people over look. I remember hearing of some historic village site on the east coast some years back. They were some kind of state heritage site and could only use materials and techniques of the times for their construction to maintain them. Problem was no one made materials using those techniques (and in many cases those materials) anymore. So every maintenance project was an expensive one requiring the hiring of special people to not only do the work, but to manufacture the materials on site. No amount of tourist tickets could cover that cost.
And it is the same with the USS Texas. To properly maintain that ship (or any ship) requires not only money, but thousands (possibly millions) of man-hours of work regularly. As a veteran of the Navy I can tell you that salt water and air are no friend to a ship at all.
Yes,yes indeed, expensive scrap metal
oh nice. apart from the USS Stewart i have no reason to visit or spend my money on Galveston anymore
So you don't want to see USS Cavalla the sub that sank Shokaku?
We’re going to F this up, aren’t we?
I am from Alabama and I remember touring the USS Texas as a kid back in the late 60s when visiting my sister who lived in Houston at the time. Amazing piece of history. Hope the city of Beaumont and the state come to her rescue.
Houston, or somewhere really close to it, really is the only right choice. Lots of visitors to support the ship
I guarantee the next thing we will hear about this ship is that its going to become an "artificial reef" its happening to the U.S.S. United States, another ship with historical significance. This is unbelievable. These tycoons will swing their purse at the most ridiculous things but when it comes to anything like preserving history is just out of the question. I get the concept of needing some kind of return on investment but sometimes isnt the knowledge that you helped preserve a national monument so the comimg generations can behold it enough of a return?
There is absolutely no reason to believe that. The situations are completely, utterly different.
The United States has been gutted with no interior for what, 30+ years? She hasn't had any real work done in many decades. It would have been hundreds of millions of dollars to get her ready to show.
The Texas has an interior, and she's will be just coming off of a huge drydock period. She's probably in better shape hull-wise than she's been since the beginning of WW2. She could be set up as a museum again very quickly once the shore-side parts were ready.
The United States was permanently destroyed when they removed the interior. It's just taken this long to finally admit it.
What a moronic opinion, there is a huge difference between the gutted and rotting SS United States and the freshly restored USS Texas
@@fsodn I tend to agree. The United States, from videos I have seen, has been neglected for a long time (not assigning blame). The Texas drydock was extensive. The ship has new life pumped back into her.
USS United States has been rotting for three decades
Why in the heck does the state of texas not want the battleship in the harbour of the state of texas?
Story is t complete. The texas didnt finish the deal to secure its funding like agreed upon. So the deal went south. Theres a restaurant that has an issue with its placement, but the dock owners have the ability to use another slip. So basically comes down to money.
No they wanted to move her from pier 21 to pier 19 that is more out of the way and less foot traffic because "*atie’s Seaf**d H*use" says it will spoil his customers view if it is at pier 21.
Liberal nimbies up to no again! This is why the damn leftwing heathens don't a deserve in any matters.
Pier 21 isn't even a direct line of sight if anything having Texas and the open marina wouldn't hamper any view but improve it
@@Bum-gh2zinah don’t censor it “Katie’s Seafood House”
That man must be allergic to money because having a tourist magnet steps away from your door is a money printer
North Alabama here. Would love to see it docked with the Alabama in Mobile Bay.
South Alabama here (Born Mobile,now Atlanta).Agreed.The Battleship Park is an amazing,and outstanding,repository of all manner of American Military icons.The "Texas" would be a wondeful addition.
If you're a tourist you don't want to be outside at night on Galveston Island! A lot has changed since my first visit in 1968, when our car got broken into at night and everything stolen. Now it's a lot worse, they do their crimes in broad daylight! I wouldn't want to go to Galveston to see the "Battleship Texas." Not worth the risk!
So Galveston is just going to give up on an iconic piece of American history? I hope the old warrior finds a loving and caring home. She would be more than welcomed to come to Baton Rouge and moored next to the USS Kidd. I would visit her every weekend!
Bring it up to Fall River might as well go mass and park it next to uss Massachusetts since Texas doesn’t want her
Property of the state of Texas so not happening, plus you don't put two ships of that size next to each other
@ why that size can’t go together
Beaumont offers absolutely nothing of value and will just be another place for the Battleship to go die. Think USS Orleck in Orange only with a much bigger downside. No one is going to Beaumont for anything other than the Battleship if they put it there which means you've got the San Jacinto Battleground all over again. The only way this works is if you have a collection of attractions that collectively bring in paying customers to come see the ship like you find in Galveston.
A food truck park on one end with a restored park in the middle. Wow. That's your pitch? If it doesn't go to Galveston it will end up in bad shape again in no time at all.
This ship needs to be given a new home asap. It's truly the only surviving dreadnaught today. It played a vital roll in the D-Day invasion, supplying artillery fire for the landing and the days after. An iconic ship to say the least.
That’s it Galveston, make room for more million dollar drug houses.
It is so sad to see such rare New York class battleship Texas being tossed around, with no city wants to shell out the money to rehome her. The Texas is extremely rare, a predecessor of the Pennsylvania battleship class (same as the sunken Arizona at Pearl Harbor). Few would have the privilege to see and touch this historic piece. Even now, the future home of the Texas is unknown.
Certainly someone has done the cost and revenue projections based on other floating military museums across the country, and Galveston didn't believe they could at least break even.
How?? How would they refuse the grand old lady who fought through wars carrying the flag of her the land she serve, I hope they can somehow tow her to pearl harbor and unite with the Missouri guarding the Arizona fallen Dreadnought
She was given to the State of Texas. The State gave the USS Texas Foundation a ton of money to have her restored. WHICH has happened. She's been in dry dock for years. She's got all new skin on the torpedo bulges. The money spent shining her up has her sound enough they could tow her anywhere the wanted. When she left San Jacinto they were worried she'd sink before she got to Galveston. THAT, is no longer the case.
She's in no danger of going to the bottom of the sea. She just needs a home where the community cares about her.
Galveston wants to put her in Seawolf Park. But Seawolf park is on the wrong side of the causeway from where all the visitors are at. Nobody but locals go over there. As a result she'd in the same trouble with not enough visitors as she was in San Jacinto. So the USS Texas Foundation has said no, we aren't putting her over there several times.
@@garygsp3 That is the problem now, She is now is great shape but she is not renovated to be an active ship but a museum still, I just wish she will get a new home as fast as possible, She is one of the oldest remnants of Naval supremacy with so many battles in her name, maybe Pearl Harbor may be a possible candidate for her permanent home, The USS Missouri and the Arizona Memorial has tons of visitors daily, who knows, maybe the Old Texas, last dreadnought being there can be a great addition and USS Texas near the Missouri can be a sight to behold and Texas guarding the Arizona as well, two dreadnoughts.
This was done by locals purely to spite Landry's. There were no other considerations given.
What a shame the state can't seem to find a home for the ship.
If Texas can't take care of it give it to New Jersey so someone who knows what they are doing can care for her.
Do your research. The New Jersey struggles for funding. Just ask it's curator. He is here on You Tube.
They got battleship cove right up the street.
Incredibly sad. Please, someone take her and restore her!
She’s already being restored, just needs a place to go when finished
She was restored less than a year ago I think,, but the paint that they used or the job that they did was really shitty!😢
@@DavidJones-me7yr Wasn't really a restore... This dry dock they've replaced substantial steel, removed collapsing torpedo bulges (they're now only above the water line and not holding water) They've taken out TONS of foam they though would hold out water that just ended up retaining it... a whole lot more done this round.
@@DavidJones-me7yr Those were all old videos of her, she looks great right now and is completing painting of her above water line now as well as some final work on her super structure.
@@DavidJones-me7yr That's just absolutely false. Where in the world did you come up with that ?????
Corpus Christi is the perfect place for it, next to the USS Lexington and the Texas State Aquarium. This would be a great addition to an already good tourist attraction and would help further develop the area.
Funding is always an issue with these museum ships.. They do well for the first couple of years. Then it's "Been there, Done that" ! It's hard enough to support one, much less "two" !
@ The Texas has to go somewhere and the only two logical places are Galveston and Corpus Christi.
The old anchorage at San Jacinto battlefield was fine but problematic from a ship preservation standpoint. Beaumont would be an AWFUL location since it’s too far away from major populated areas .
Bring her to San Diego, we love our maritime museums here! 🇺🇸 ❤️
While I'd love to see the Texas moved to within driving distance for me I think she should stay in her namesake state.
i went to the Midway and you guys have an amazing ship already. i would love to see Texas with a carrier but shes is sadly looking to be a Solo attraction so there no chance that they will put her with another ship
@@JustJohn505 They need to put her with the Lexington in Corpus.
San Diego honestly makes a lot of sense financially. There is a TON of foot traffic in and around that area and with Coronado literally a stones throw away. The Texas could literally look across the harbor at her modern contemporaries.
According the the Internet the USS Midway museum grossed over 23 million dollars in 2023. That’s ALOT of cash.
last thing i want is for california to take my goddamn ship from my state
I won't eat at Katies Seafood anymore.
Battleship Park in Mobile Alabama has more than enough room,people and visitors. Plus USS Alabama has had a few renovations done to her recently with more planned and their living crew reenactments are never a bore.
Texas doesn't want her leaving the state
As a Texan, I hope they keep the battleship and relocate to Galveston. This historic battleship served in World War 1 and 2, especially in the Battle of Normandy (D-Day)
What a sad shame! The home of the Elissa, with so much history in their borders and on their shores, and they pass up the chance to have the century-old Battleship Texas! If not Galveston, then how about Corpus Christi, right next to the Lexington?
I wish they would put her back where she came from, by the San Jacinto Monument.
I liked seeing them on the same visit.
The Texas won’t get enough visitors in Beaumont.
Hope Katie's gets boycotted to oblivion over this and Galveston loses a massive load of income over this. Morons.
With as much money as we spend on our defense budget the US should just take USS Texas, Iowa, and Missouri and restore and retrofit them and give them to the Marine Corps. Nothing more terrifying then the worlds best fighting force pulling up on floating guns
The Crayola Navy
They would never be given to the Marines dumbass. They would go right back to the navy.
Dont forget the SS United States...the idiots try to sink her next month!
$6-$24 million? Has the foundation looked into the cost of getting the ship running & making it a traveling museum?
running those boilers would be economically unfeasable not only due to fuel cost but maintenance and needing a skilled workforce to run them. then you have insurance to worry about. a lot more can go wrong sailing about vs being static. lastly the us navy doesnt want the engineering plants reactivated on ships they give out as museums even if all that wasnt an issue. its written into their contracts.
The prop shafts were cut off when it became a museum, and the rudder mechanism is stuck fast. Those engines also haven't been used since before it became a museum, there's zero possibility of making the ship run.
@@wylde_karrdeyou
Not to mention there are a limited number of ports where a ship her size could dock, where there weren't security/safety concerns or where she wouldn't get in the way of operations.
We have to ask Trump and Musk!!! Musk could do it with one fingersnip!
Bring it to corpus! It would be awesome to give Lexington a friend!
Corpus doesn't want it
disgrace treating a lady badly -
Quite the little Odyssey this old warship is on!
I'm not a native Texan but I'm damned proud to live here now. I'm ashamed of how badly a historic monument like the USS Texas is being treated. I thought of Galveston as a tawdry and second rate location for her and by god they went and proved me right. Better get on the ball before a town in Louisiana shows an interest in hosting her.
Texan isn't where you were born, it's in your heart.
Good statement.
How in the hell is this happening? Come on Texas, step in and do something.
Trump has to step in NOW!!!! Trump fix it
I sure hope it finds a new home soon. I would also love to visit it and her younger and bigger sisters, the Iowas one day
We should all leave 1 star reviews on the restaurant for this
Take it to Corpus and put it next to the Lex. It'll be welcome there.
Nope, corpus revealed they weren't interested
I cant believe theyve taken away her perspective home in Galveston. That's just absolutely sad, she deserves a home in Salt Water
This has got to be one of the stupidest things the City of Galveston has done. Are you kidding me. Something tells me that they are going to regret this.
Bring it to San Antonio next to the Alamo , they could extend and widen the Riverwalk and park it there 😊
As a San Antonio resident, I like that idea ! (The San Antonio Navy) !
I would love the USS Texas to come to beaumont, itd be right down the road from my house and ive always wanted to see it in person!!
Forget that ! Beaumont doesn't have the chop's or cash to support such a long term endeavor. The "Texas" would go there to "die" !
Tillman fertitta needs to buy it up and dock it at the pleasure pier or in Kemah
I volunteere to take care of this beautiful piece of History
I think placing it close to where the USS Lexington is in Corpus Christi would be a phenomenal place.
Imagine refusing a battleship on your doorstep... They're refusing free tourism and business. makes no sense
Unless I'm mistaken, the Battleship USS Texas is the only remaining World War I battleship or capital ship! one-of-a-kind That alone should be enough for permanent preservation and Beaumont is an IDEAL spot. USS Texas is historically rare as USS Constitution - a BIG treasure, named Texas too! She looks great after her recent dry-dock. Man, that lady means business. Go get yur destiny Beaumont. She's pretty as WW I can get.
the issue is does the city get enough tourism for her to get the funds she needs. the big reason she was in such a sad state was where she was orignally put turned out to be a bad tourism spot
@@Revkor There ARE, I assume many others like me who are (American) maritime historical aficionados, e.g., that ONLY go places where attractions that have historical meaning yield memories we apply afterwards in accounts by these sailors who sailed in them, . . . that we enjoy throughout the years AFTER the vacations over, e.g. ideas of scale, materials used then are all different and ingeniously used, consistently, yielding new dimensions, as much as the "third eye" of higher consciousness of the historical circumstances to the point of understanding everything that happened, why, how, where, when, what and who is why Beaumont should permanently berth the USS Texas as THE most fit AND attractive thing the city could get to attract tourists, all things considered, under the circumstances ALONG with an historically very rare artifact that is one-of-a-kind: a World War I battleship (named Texas! too) What could be better?
@@jeffwalther3935 people in texas said that city would be a bad choice
She is the last dreadnought
The Battleship Texas features prominently in the new novel: The Sum of All Our Anger: Civil War 2.0
Put her in Corpus next to the Lex.
Corpus has no interest
Beaumont would be a good choice, and they were definitely enthusiastic about the possibility. Would have been nice back in the day to go to Lamar Fire Academy and use any downtime to wander over and tour the ship.
I was recently on a boat tour of Galveston Harbor area, the Texas was the prime highlight. This is a big loss for Galveston. With losing the banana facilities, isn't tourism becoming more & more important to Galveston?
Putting her in Beaumont is comparable to using the ship as a artificial reef. The later probably receiving more visitors.
More people would see her as a Reef !
the city fathers should realize that the Texas is worth more than 1 restaurant,....they should also have numbers that demonstrate the ship is a worthwhile cause if they are actually capable of carrying out the performance of their position ...
Katie’s Seafood restaurant, you are NOT ruining the view by adding the last dreadnought and pride or Texas. Such a proximity to a such a great monument will make business great, you are getting loads of foot traffic and tourists with the Texas in close proximity.
They don't see it that way
Customers love views of brackish water and huge rusty oil rigs!!!
Nobody wants to go to Beaumont, people try their whole lives to leave that cancer cluster.
Wait exactly what's going on with all these historic naval vessels getting into trouble left, right and center? First the James Bond one, then the SS United States, now BB Texas :/
Also, why use her pre-drydock footage making the Texas look like a hulk? Are ya'll angling this in such a way that WW2 efforts need to be forgotten and the vessel ought to be scrapped? Because that's EXACTLY the vibe you're giving off lol
Woke lie media!
I'll nominate my front yard. HOA may have some issues, but I think I can get them on board.
Restore the cannons to working order and you won't have to worry about the HOA 😂
What ? The HOA doesn't allow "Yard Art" ?
Katie Seafood House- BOYCOTT IT!!! What a thing to have the Battle Ship! There NO OTHER like it on the planet. -
If some city dims dont want one of the coolest battleships left, north carolina or alabama would love having her in the squadron. Im sure even florida would love having texas guarding st pete, key west or st augstine...
I hope she finds a great spot. And not in some breaker yard..
State of Texas has made it clear she's not leaving the state
I was hoping to visit the uss Texas. Guess I'll have to wait until they figure out where to open the museum.
So where is Gov Abbott? Why is he not helping? Too busy?
Too busy policing womens’ wombs.
Ship is technically privately owned, so it's not his concern at the moment
If she goes to Beaumont she’ll be forgotten about and fall into disrepair
Put her in Corpus next to the Grey Ghost
Corpus doesn't want her
It’s the Blue Ghost
Might not be any Americans left in govt to care about it. These new Americans might want it scrapped.
So the USS New Jersey is the last ww2 battleship....and the Texas is the last ww1 & ww2 battleship! I'm sorry but why TF are we not caring about our history?? I get we can't save them all but this ship is like the USS New Jersey she needs respect and if Galveston can't respect her then move her to a place that respects history! Of all the states i never would of thought Galveston would do this to their own war ship! It is the last floating ww1-ww2 battleship in the world...that i know of! Come on people WAKE up!
You failed economics huh, many millions a year in maintenance on expensive scrap metal
@@ClarencegHamm Also you act like we do this shit all the time! No we don't! This is only the second restore ship in my life that i seen...you're over there thinking we do this shit every year lol.
Americans care more about the next football score than their own history. The monthly electric bill on the stadium lights at any US high school is usually more than the entire year's budget for non-sports curriculum and it is the volley ball coach teaching history.
I hope the battleship finds a good home it is so cool
Jerry Jones will allow the Battleship Texas to dock right next to AT&T Stadium in Arlington,TX.
It's fully restored so maybe it's time to be FULLY DEPLOYED! OK I'm an incurable optimist but love those Iowa class battleships.