WoW's Most Famous Mysteries Years Later
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I remember when I was young and I was still getting into WoW, I would look up any videos or posts online where people discussed their theories and speculations on what certain stuff could be in the game. The world of Warcraft is huge after all. Many vague things and mysteries with a lot of implications. These mysteries made the game feel that much more immersive to me, giving it a hint of realism even to such a strong fantasy setting.
But as I got absorbed by all of these mysteries, time passed, and before I knew it - some of them had been finally revealed or confirmed. Blizzard basically loved to put random hooks in the world here and there and would eventually pick up on some of them. And this is why I decided to make this video, to take a look at some of these more notable mysteries in perspective and how they turned out after Blizzard finally decided to expand on them.
Though, at the end of the day I do think it's nice for us to finally get some information on many of these myths, it really turned out to be a monkey's paw type of deal a bit, with a lot of them turning out not exactly as people hoped for, including me... Regardless, because of that even, I thought that the topic for this video would be that much more interesting!
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0:00 - Introduction
0:37 - #AD U.GG
1:27 - Tirisfal Glades
5:54 - Ashbringer
12:07 - What Sylvanas Saw
14:41 - Conclusion
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I have a big question for you Grim, are you currently in the process of making the WoW Dragonflight in a nutshell video and if so… how messed up and funny is going to be? (And a very curious question for what are your thoughts on the Dracthyr for you? Are they a great addition to the game or a bad one, for me I think their a great addition to the game and are the reason I’m picking WoW back up again because of them though I would like them to have another class to them that focus on being a tank and a damage dealer but I’m not complaining about it since I like running my Augmentation build for my Dracthyr)
I wish you collabed with MadSeason on this vid, I think he would fit well
love how you didn't make a single dragonflight video or even mention the expansion anywhere in recent videos🤣🤣🤣
The jailor is too smart, man what an amazing villain, he planned it all he's 5 steps ahead and he doesn't have to explain why
He was so far ahead in his plans even the writers didn't know about it
@@charleswinters9567 lmao perfect
2030 expansion: Somehow, Jailer returned
Jailer: *enters the lore*
Jailer: "I did everything bad in the universe btw."
Jailer: *refuses to elaborate*
Jailer: *dies*
Whoopsie, Sylvannas made an Oopsie! 😅
The Corrupted Ashbringer was so fucking good. Imagine being the first person to drag that thing into Scarlet Monastery. Must've blown their mind.
It's funny how the Corrupted version is why more respected. Only 1000 people ever completed the OG Raid back in the OG Release. I wonder how many people actually ended up having it?
Pretty sure it was a Guild called Risen that looted it first and they made a video of the event - was super hype at the time!
@@moonflowerpalace3872 Wow, didn't know only 1000 people did the raid back then. Makes it that more interesting that I have seen the Corrupted Ashbringer in-game once or twice.
@@DivorcedStates Yeah, I watched a video broke down the maths to a "1000" (rounded down) Look for the video "WoW Vanilla - Was Old Naxxramas Really That Hard?" has the full breakdown. Just watched it again, that was a US Server break down of almost 900,000 US lvl 60s at the time.
@@DivorcedStates You forget that Naxx was still doable during TBC though. There are definitely a lot of people that will have zerg'd Naxx once they were in TBC gear.
Your Jailer is way better than the canon one. I actually look forward to seeing him in your videos.
i've also grown very fond of him, so always happy to include him lol
When we get Shadowlands classic they should totally put your Jailer in and rewrite the storyline for him.
I especially look forward to watching people react to the jailor appearing.. they scream utter terror as they are reminded of Shadowlands again rofl.
Exactly. At least there is one good thing that came out of it.
@@CaptainGrim Remember the Azerothian super villains series? we really, REALLY need your version of it
The issue is it seems like blizzard constantly creates something with the intention of expanding on it later, and when later happens, they kind of go “oh yeah, that.” And come up with something quick to do away with it. See: Murozond being taken care of in a dungeon after YEARS of speculation into that plot.
Maaaaan, yeah that sucked.
Just shows the need for dedicated writers and keeping track of your lore. In hindsight, WoW could have been a much more coherent story to tell, if they had spent more time setting up lore and making notes for "if something happens with XXXXXX, don't forget about XYZ"
The OG blizz had 'if it's cool put it in the game' mentality (like the giant snake tail in Gundrak) and actively expanding on player's theories. But the new blito is moe money ? no! then no make + cheap af writers from wish
I'm salty right now about unfinished quests in Vanilla that got retconned in Wrath. The Eranikus quest being the big one (he's the big green sleeping dragon you kill in the temple of Attal'Hakkar (Swamps of Sorrow), which you could absorb in some soul gem and the quest to free him ends in a dud in Winterspring.
That was going to be my 700th quest in Kalimdor too. I'm salty as krait.
@@amshermansen Constantly having new people writing the story probably hurts it too. I wonder how many of the people who came up with Murozond in Cata are even still around.
That paladin clawing at the 'No Touch' glass cage holding the ashbringer was hilarious.
Hey wait a minute. I dinstinctly remember reading some official lore or something depicting Sylvanas in the "afterlife". She was met with eternal tourment with everybody else who was damned like her, being bullied by some entities for eternity. She had no body, no agency over anything. While in that state, she met arthas, who was in the exact same position as she was. And for the first time, pitied him. It's only later that she met the valkyr, learned that this fate was something that awaited everyone whose soul was tainted by undeath, and that they were stuck there as well. The pact was that one of the valkyr would sacrifice her life to bring sylvanas back to the realm of the living, the other valkyrs piggy backing her soul, and that her new goal in life was just not fucking die, and find a way to break the curse that makes undead people go to hell when they die (again).
So you're telling me all that was retconned in shadowlands in order to create the jailer ?
Pretty much
Yep just like how the retconned it so the Dreadlords had always served the Jailor, how the whole Lich King plot had been his idea in the first place, how he'd been the one to ensure Sylvanus became warchief so she could start a massive war all with the goal of feeding more souls into the Maw so the Jailor can become stronger because.... I dunno, reasons? Some bigger threat? He never explains it.
@@Lorekeeper72 I haven't played shadowlands past 8.0, but from what i gathered, he told her he was goign to maek a world where death doesn't exist, and then went SYKE i'm gonna be the master of my own universe.
it didnt so much get retconned, rather they just wrote horrible conclusions for all the lead ins. the reason everyone tainted by undeath were trapped and agencyless was revealed (only if you went Kyrian) to be because the Jailer had imprisoned their souls in a personal soul vault in the maw. It was never explicitly stated but it was shown that if you broke into the vault and destroyed the soul prisms it released the person whose soul fragment was trapped there, breaking their curse of undeath.
but yeah Zovaal the jailer was extremely lame and badly written and they worked so hard to make him be the mastermind behind all the major events not directly caused by the void/old_gods that it just came off looking like a retcon. the sad thing was that if they actually did retcon things it would have been smoother and more logical writing that landed better. instead they just shoehorned him into every plot line.
@@Lorekeeper72He has *one* line, saying basically “unless death is united under one force, nothing will survive the coming threat” sort of bullshit. Absolutely thrown in at the last min to try and desperately hold up all his bullshit
"The very forests of Lordaeron whispered the name... Arthas" - Terenas Menethil II
That quote convinced me Tirisfal had more to it
The janitor is my favourite charactor ever
He plan so good and doesn't afraid anything
Truer words have never been spoken.
Doesn't afraid anything indeed.
HEs using erryone's soul to CLEAN THE UNIVERSE of live and dead
The Creepy Goldshire Children's one of my longtime favorite mysteries. Another is the secret Blingtron war that seems to be happening with the Blingtrons very focused on us not knowing anything about it.
The reveal of what was underneath Tirisfal was so underwhelming, but what they did to Sylvanas and the whole shadowlands thing is unforgivable.
One of my favourite mystery/easter eggs in WoW are the creepy children in Elwynn who gather together and walk around, then meet in the top floor of the building beside Goldshire. If you stand in the room long enough you hear screams and dark whispers. What they're doing is never actually revealed, but there's two skulls in the grass beside the house.
Alexandros Mograine "Such devastation, this was not my intention."
You are the BEST thing to ever happen to the Jailer. Thanks for making him likeable.
THE ZOOM IN NIPPLE
You're jailer has more character development is better than the actual Jailer.
he's somehow become my favourite wow character as well since I've started adding him to videos lol
add him to all future videos from now on!@@CaptainGrim
@@CaptainGrim I love your nerdy Jailor voice :D
Your... Not you're
@@CaptainGrim He's definitely my favorite character of yours, which is an incredible 180 from what he was in WoW.
lol that Tirion death moment was... incredible. Thank you for that! hahaha
The previous unaccessible zone in Tirisfal glades had a special circle where every once in a while animals and faerie dragons gathered to perform what looked like a ritual. Back then one of the main theory was that it was some sort of link to the Emerald dream (or nightmare) and that it was what caused Highborn elves to go crazy. So yeah not specifically an old god buried underneath but old god's influence still.
Only thing he is that he is wrong when he call them blood elf, they where highborn.
@@Deshwita You're right! I guess I'm too used to say the name Kael'Thas gave them after Arthas came by. Thanks for catching that.
Oh yeah! The One With Nature (now Nature's Beacon) allowed you to randomly port there. Very pretty event.
Legion expanded on alot of side lore but seamlessly into the quests for each class which was so interesting. The shamans could see a strange object in the sky from the Maelstrom sanctuary. Legion was peak fiction.
I always know it's a good day when a new Captain Grim video is released
Whoever subtitled the video in Spanish, hats off. Adding an extra layer of fun!
Karazhan's crypt was one of my favorite mystery back in the days. The fact there was a secret underground zone like this one locked from players by any means besides glitching the game was truly amazing and dreadful to think about. Not that much impress of what they did with upside down Karazhan as a dungeon afterwards though.
Glitch or a mage blink :D
@@comedyzone Even though my favorite has always been paladin, mage truly was the best class exactly because of this kind of unfair glitching awesomeness.
@@mr.whistler6114 and mage could get into unfinished twilight highlands too during classic.
The way your voice sounded during the ad read was a mixture of hype and despair. 😅 Always love your character voices, and Sylvanas with the double peace signs was hilarious. 😂
Man that Jailer pose at the last part got me. I couldn't stop laughing XD
Your Jailer version is simply the best and funniest!
Moral of the story: literally any time there's a really interesting mystery, it gets ruined when it becomes part of the gameplay
10:15 There was David Wayne.
"David Wayne is/was the top candidate for the lost son of Mograine, who could forge the Ashbringer anew and was stated to reside in Outland.
Reasons for speculation:
-He can forge weapons.
-He left the Alliance Expedition because he felt destined to be part of "something larger."
-He has shoulder length reddish hair like Highlord Mograine and Renault Mograine.
With the introduction of Wrath of the Lich King, a son of Mograine living in Outland was apparently retconned out.
Tyrion getting barbequed repeatedly made me fall off my chair laughing! Absolutely excellent video!
That zovaal reveal is absolute gold
I’m actually pretty fond of your Jailer. You turned him into an interesting and likeable character.
A Captain Grim AND a Platinum WoW video in the same day?
This is the best day ever! 😆
What they did with Arthas in Shadowlands is quite literally the worst thing they could have done
Am I the only one that didn’t mind it?
@@preds43 yes.
Nahh. Arthas' story was over.
Wasn't the thing with Sylvanas accepting the Valkyrie's deal because she saw...Nothing?
Emptiness, Darkness, The VOID, there was nothing and she was nothing, which scared the sh*t out of her and decided that dying, kinda sucks, and wants to undeadify the world.
I knew the Jailer gonna show up, but I was still not prepared when the lights came on :'D
The animation of the paranoid troll listening to Tirisfall's heartbeat has me rolling lmfao
Well, I have a few mysteries for you.
Back in Vanilla, we had the gates of Uldum at the bottom of Tanaris. Everybody was wondering what it was. The gates seemed to indicate that something had escaped.
I remember expecting either a dungeon or raid like Uldaman. When they announced Cataclysm in a BlizzCon, Metzen himself was telling us how it would reveal more Titan mysteries much like Uldaman and Ulduar did before... only to deliver a mess of Indiana Jones references. Uldum is still on my 'Top 3 of most hated zones' to this day.
Then we had the mystery of what was going on behind the gates of Gilneas. Why were they closed? Back then, there was all sorts of theories, ranging from Azshara invading with her naga, to remnants of the Scourge, or just lots of gnolls and murlocs. Nobody saw the Worgens coming, that's for sure. All of that wait for the zone to be essentially irrelevant for nearly 14 years...
Can't also ignore how people were puzzled by the time it took for Blizzard to handle Zandalar, Kul'tiras, Plunder Isle, Tel'Abim... some of those we're still waiting for. It's crazy to me how Pandaria came BEFORE Kul'tiras, which was officially still part of the Alliance of Lordaeron back in WC3, and (in true Blizzard-fashion), the devs were careful not to give us straight answers as to what was going on there.
You can also mention the mystery of Turalyon and Alleria, for which Blizzard even had a loading screen tip "No one has seen Alleria and Turalyon for years" up from TBC to Legion. Ultimately, that might be one mystery they arguably didn't mess up.
Let's not forget mysteries like "what exactly is Elune?". Is she a First One? Is she a Titan? A Void-Lord? A Naaru? Some kind of First-One-adjacent entity, like the Eternals of Shadowlands are?
Are the Old Gods like Yogg'saron *REALLY* dead? Blizzard seems to say yes, but then again, it would make sense if they were lying, because we've seen manifestation of Yogg'saron in the pre-patch of Legion in Ulduar, and N'Zoth's plan makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE if he really died in BFA. Similarly, who was the obviously prison where we fight Sarkareth in DF meant for?
And a lot more, I'm sure!
Love your input mate, shows how much you really love the Warcraft universe 😍😍
Completely forgot about the Naaru - hot damn there is so much left behind when we move on from each expansion.
@Leeloo_the_fox It seemed SO important to N'Zoth that we got the Blade of the Black Empire where Xal'atath was kept in. He went to some big lengths to have Xal'atath freed from it, then have us tested, then have the dagger be used to lead the Horde and the Alliance to Nazjathar so that they would free him... everything culminating in his big show of power in Ny'alotha.
It would make sense if he orchestrated it all, a big dramatic finish, to make us believe he was dead, while he would actually be free to prepare something big. That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
Otherwise it would be a total waste of potential, which is sadly very possible for modern-day Blizzard.
@@comedyzone If you've done the intro to unlock the Mag'har allied race, you should know that in the present of Alternate-Universe (AU) Draenor, the High-Exarch Yrel is leading the Army of the Light in a universe where the Legion has been beaten (as the Legion was officially shared across the multiverse, so when we killed Argus, we shut-down their effort through all realities), and where the first Horde has been essentially pacified.
So that version of the Army of the Light became what our Draenei could've become in a similar situation (when Velen was still a fervent believer in Fate and in the Light), and they converted everything they could to their army of zealots, and purged the rest.
Bottom-line, in another universe, there's a pretty freaking huge version of the Army of the Light that features at least Draenei and Mag'har orcs (including the Exarch Hellscream, the alternate version of the son of Grom Hellscream that he had after the events of Warlords of Draenor, who may or may not look like Garrosh as a paladin), and possibly obeying the orders given by a version of the Prime Naaru Xera that Illidan was never there to destroy.
Imagine what might happen if THEY figure out how to re-open the Dark Portal to either their version of Azeroth where the Horde never invaded, or to OUR version of Azeroth where they know most of the Mag'har fled.
Food for thoughts.
Grim doing what he can to show the Jailor as the perfect specimen of a being.
The Jailer reveal had me choking on my coffee, thanks man xD xD, awesome video as always
Man, Blizzard really disrespected Arthas like that, I can still feel the pain.
"Oopsies!"
-Sylvanas
there is only one mysteries i want an answer to...who is the mother of gruul's sons in TBC???
Not gonna lie, I totally expected this video to be nothing but "turns out it was actually the jailer", but I'm not gonna complain, this was a really cool video
The only reason I miss Shadowlands is because we don't get Grim's rendition of the Jailer as much anymore
I'm actually a fan of the fairy circle in tristfall. I remember sitting there for hours just to see the lil event that happens. Upside down karazhan was also a fave
My favourite part of Tirisfal is the western pond with the crashed gyrocopter and gnome skeletons. I remember Blizzard also added a weird mushroom circle and sprite darter dance that happened in the area which also fuelled speculation about the dream/nightmare afflicting the area.
Shadowlands was one of the biggest missed opportunities in WoW. There are so many characters throughout the franchise's history that could have made for great reunions, but we got barely any. Imagine a version of Shadowlands where the invasion of Tor'ghast was to break out the souls of all of WoW's greatest villains and convince them to ally with us in a reality-breaking final battle with the Jailer.
Instead, we just equip a Burger King birthday crown and beat the Jailer in a back-alley brawl where he claims he was really the good guy all along, turns into a robot whose batteries fall out and never elaborates.
You get an Ashbringer, you get an ashbringer.... EVERYBODY GETS AN ASHBRINGER! 🤣
That part with the jailer had me in stitches... 😂 Brilliant as always. You could make an animated series out of that dude alone, it's fucking brilliant.
Been quite awhile Captain Grim love your stuff glad youtube showed me your video the literal minute it was posted. Gonna be a good watch B)
cheers! :D
The Jailer was a terrible character in WoW but he's a great character when you handle him. Honestly, made me pretty happy when he showed up on this video, love his voice!
"- Azeroth used to be a bigger place.
- Azeroth's still the same. There's just less in it"
Now I see, Captain Grim, aye.
They did Tirion so dirty. :( He was such a strong and admirable character with a really satisfying arch. And then they turn him into such a laughing stock.
Another banger lol. And I appreciate you bringing the jailer back. This is the only acceptable format for him to come back in so that's the only time I'd say something like that. If you need video ideas, you could do one similar to this one with characters that went decades without story resolution in game. In particular I can think of Eranikus off the top off my head. IIRC we all got his gem as a quest reward for sunken temple in vanilla, but his actual story wasn't resolved until Cataclysm in uuuh...feralas I think? Anyway I'll continue to keep the spirit of your version of the jailer alive by quoting him as much as possible in the WoW subreddit.
I still love the Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron, and basically all the other old god whispers hidden around, hope they had done more with those.
11:13 "With Tyrion dying like an absolute clown in retribution paladin fashion"
👌
You are nice enough to timestamp your ad spots, and yet i don't skip them because you make it entertaining. Well played, absolute legend.
I think the ashbringer worked out well once the secret appearance was found out. It's still a great thing to have.
My favorite secret is the one in stonetalon where there's a bunch of hidden references to a serial killer.
I sincerely hope you watched that stonetalon video until the very end and are now just joking.
@@schneeluchsalpha2966 bro haha i dont think He did
Imagine if they barely hint that you can cleanse The Corrupted Ashbringer in Season of Discovery, and it still not leading anywhere. As someone who will be playing shaman, I'd be so damn happy.
The damage done by Shadowlands is irreversible and even Daddy Metzen returning may not fix it.
The only good thing that came out of Shadowlands was the jailer... which led to the creation of YOUR version of the jailer, love that goofy bastard.
Great video as always.
hahah, cheers glad you liked it :)
Wonderful video. You could make more like these in the future, talking about various mysteries of the game.
I loved trying to get out of bounds back in the Burning Crusade days. Making it to the troll village, trying to get through the door to Uldum (which led to nothing mind you) and old Ironforge were some great times. I miss the days when MMOs had real mystery and everything wasn't fished out by the PTR or data mining.
True I agree. I really loved getting out of bounds at Blasted lands to run to the bengal tiger cave. Was always fun to find about stuff like that.
Insanly good video! I love The editing so much! That animation ❤
Man, the amount of work you put into these videos is pretty awesome, to many of the commentary there is a proper scene and animation pretty much spot on, and the comedy on these wow history videos still works very well, without taking away the information, which is also delivered very well, and is always a good watch. Impressive skills man, i really look forward to your new videos, and just rewatched this one, they are really well done.
At least the results of the first two mysteries just ended up being disappointing, whereas the third mystery was just a kick in the teeth
This is where Stop N Swap occurs, you have to to Silithus in Retail then quickly log out and log in to Classic and go to Silithus there and Sargeras Sword will be there and you can start the War Within Expansion early
The Ashbringer hunt was truly a journey, ended not so well(
But the secret look for it involves doing some stuff people did in vanilla to get it so it was pretty cool
Cant wait for more! Its amazing
Ashbringer still felt great in Legion.
My first character was a paladin back in the BC pre-patch and while leveling I just sort of found Tirion and his questline. I’d learn more about him over time and when Wrath came out and I saw him at the end of the DK starting zone, I got super hype.
Him handing me the Ashbringer after having done his quest, helped him in Wrath, and again in Cata, it just sort of hit.
During the entirety of Legion I always stuck with the default skin. I have the Mage Tower version and the hidden version but I stuck with the default because that’s the sword that made me feel like a hero.
Video great as always, please NEVER stop!!!!
Your Edit is worth More then whole gold in this universe
That Tirion part was perfect.
Awesome video again, Grim!
cheers
In vanilla WoW there was of course the Chained Essence of Eranikus which had a small questchain with a seemingly dead end. I was obsessed with speculation about the Emerald Dream. I would watch those videos where someone found the developer area for what was probably a scrapped content patch, overlaid with Darude Sandstorm. Those same game assets were used in TBC in the barrow dens of Moonglade and always I thought "will this be it??? will we get to go to the dream??" but it didn't happen until Legion in the end, and now with this current patch of dragonflight we can actually explore some of it properly.
Your Jailer did what the Canon one never could:
He jailed our hearts.
Dude the reference to the old Machinima Tales of the Past 3 was well done sir
I enjoy your documentary style pieces. :)
Tyrion: "Don't worry friends, the Light will protect me."
Tyrion 5 seconds later: "The Light! It does nothing!"
The puppetry of the WoW models on these videos never ceases to impress me and make me laugh.
I get anxiety every time I pass through Tristfall Glades. That whamp sound causes it.
The only sponsored ad I've ever wanted to stay through lmaoo, I also play League of Legends whenever I crave irreparable mental damage ahah
Amazing model usage, love it!
Cheers :)
It's safe to say that the mystery of the Warcraft universe is gone
The true outcome was more creepy
Blizzard ruined all these mysteries by trying to explain them.
My favorite "mystery" or rather never used zone will always be the Karazhan Crypts and it's creepy ambience
After Shadowlands, there's a new mystery in the WOW lore: Why the hell do any Night Elves still worship Elune? They should have all told her to fuck off after what happened there.
Why do people worship "god" even if its "known" that he killed almost all humans by flood?
Its realistic, because people are generaly dumber than a sack of dogshjt
One of the remaing mysteries is the two girls from children's week. Bronze dragons attacked them when entering the caverns of time, but were stopped as "they are not to be punished for what they will cause in the future".
Great stuff per usual
this has to be one of the best WoW lore videos on the internet
YAY, ANOTHER VIDEO!
Anybody would make the same decision Sylvanas did if they were forced to do Maw dailies all day, every day. Truly the deepest wow character
the sad thing is, now ashbringer is in my bank at the bottom of a bag of other swords.
Only good thing about the Jailer is the amount of parodies it has spawned mostly by Grim
The mouth animation on the "ohhhh oopsies" was perfect for Salvanas.
The way they decided to just "kill" off Arthas like that after defeating Anduin was just horrible. Couldve done something to his storyline again. He never was shown in any area within shadowlands he was shown very shortly as a wisp, Just like how they had done Uther's storyline, we couldve seen discussion with Sylvanas and Arthas than just seeing Sylvanas getting closure. Really horrible writing
Always a pleasure Grim! I can remember stumbling across some of these discussions back in the day and really looking forward to what Blizzard (then ActiBlizz) would do with them. They all feel like rather large misses for the most part and Ashbringer especially. Since they've embraced Classic+ though I'd be interested to see if perhaps they take a second stab at some of these and maybe do them a bit better 😉
Remember how Fairbanks said the corrupted Ashbringer couldn't be saved, and then two expansions later Tirion cleansed it just by fucking holding it?
I remember being a kid and actually being spooked by freaking wow mysteries, Blizz nowadays is unable to replicate this feeling, with their boring a safe characters and world building.
The Scythe of Elune is one of them. Lackluster ending, becoming a Legendary weapon for Balance Druids.
Captain Grim’s jailer’s voice is the only I remember. Can’t even hear the og voice actors lines.
I will never forgive Blizzard for doing the Ashbringer dirty like this.
A fucking quest reward. What a joke.
"With Tirion dying like an absolute clown in Retribution paladin fashion..."
Kay man you didn't have to make it personal like that...
How funny would it be if blizz, out of the blue (and without telling anyone) actually just put the OG Vanilla Ashbringer in the game and the way to get it would be to fish it up from Throndoril river.
With a drop chance of like 0.01%