This is by far the best explanation I’ve seen so far on the subject. The focus on the commands rather than any particular key bindings makes it universal. That’s precious. Thank you.
It's an intercept cue. i.e. it provides steering information to fly an intercept course with your aircraft. It does not work like the aiming cue on American aircraft.
+GrimReapersAtomic *Thanks for a demo of the procedure for the Matra Super 530.* The Raytheon AIM-7 required a nearly identical procedure aboard the USAF / McDonnellDouglas F-15 and USN-USMC / McDonnellDouglas F-18, starting in TWS; ye don't want to hard lock until the heart of the AIM-7 envelope, as the bogey will treat a STT lock-on as a "singer low," to use Navy and Marine Corps terminology for enemy SAM initial lock-on, and commence evasive manoeuvers.
Losing lock is one thing, other is the range of Super 530, significally shorter than russian and american SARH missiles. The good thing is, it's very agile.
Shorter range than an R-27ER, but very comparable range to an AIM-7M or R-27R. However, it is a faster missile than either of those, especially the very very sluggish Sparrow. Meaning that in a straight BVR fight against something like an F-15 carrying Sparrows, the Mirage reserves the option to shoot 2nd and hit first. Combined with the Mirage's extraordinary high-altitude performance, IMO it is the King of Western aircraft in a SARH fight.
It's only been out for over two years though...we should cut them some slack... I don't know if their new 'partners' at the AdA are going to be happy with their complete lack of communication and snail pace development. Right now the Mirage is virtually unuseable in my opinion, I dunno what your lads have been making of it. The radar won't lock in auto acquisition, the hud goes spastic and it's basically a WVR guns platform.
So once the lock is lost and suppose you have a missile in the air you can't reacquire the target and the missile continue to track? Seems a bit rubbish.
be me, learn the mirage in DCS 1.5, switch to F18 and A10c. Wants to fly mirage again, hops in cockpit in 2.5.6, remembers exactly how to fly mirage from 1.5 thinking nothing changed. Immediately realize that i have no idea wtf im doing. I officially know how to fly the A10c and the mirage is still confusing to me SMH
@@MrClassytangerine you can add the Mica-ir on the m2k variant and the fire computer recognised it as magic-2 and use the same procedures, but with not data link mid-course update in the fighter you cannot exploit the long range of the mica missile. HAF M2000EGM/BGM variants now use the mica-ir version for selfprotection instead of magic-2 becouse the magic missiles were expired and the mbda asked alot for refurbished them. also the add of datalinks needed to be done with an modernised program with new radars (the old RDM-3 radar its obsolete and had problems from the begining) data links etc but dasault not ofering an AESA or even PESA radars for modernising the mirage-2k they focus on the rafale sales now, so not worthy the money. if they ofered minimal modernisation with data link for the mica mid course update, data link-16, new main mission computer and new MFDs on the old radar screen on a reasonable cost it would worth it.
@@MrClassytangerine Oh i see, just becouse i see the hellenic airforce skin on the mirage2000, but in the game its C variant not the E that the HAF has!
@@grimreapers Weapons SystemsCMD Depress seems to be the only way, but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to use that function for that purpose. I'm a noob with the plane.
*CHANGES To Guns & Super 530D Vid: th-cam.com/video/UtpAN6vK0y4/w-d-xo.html
*CHANGES TO CONTROLS Nov 2021:
"Weapons FIRE/Bombs Release" to "Trigger 1st Stage" & "Trigger 2nd Stage"
"STT/TWS Toggle (Target Lock)" to "STT/TWS Toggle" & "TDC Depress (Lock Target)"
"PRF Selector High" to "PRF Selector HFR"
"PRF Selector Low" to "PRF Selector BFR"
"PRF Selector Int" to "PRF Selector ENT"
can you select the magic using the clickable cockpit ?
and not by a keybind ?
This is by far the best explanation I’ve seen so far on the subject. The focus on the commands rather than any particular key bindings makes it universal. That’s precious. Thank you.
It's an intercept cue. i.e. it provides steering information to fly an intercept course with your aircraft. It does not work like the aiming cue on American aircraft.
I had no idea, thx!
Glad i scrolled down. I was having a helluva time trying to Lead everything that much lol
I was wondering why the missile still needed to turn so much. thank you.
7:33am here in the UK, but I'm on my day off.;))
Super 530D version has max range 10 miles/17Km? on the data specs they say 40Km in ideal circumstances!
+GrimReapersAtomic *Thanks for a demo of the procedure for the Matra Super 530.* The Raytheon AIM-7 required a nearly identical procedure aboard the USAF / McDonnellDouglas F-15 and USN-USMC / McDonnellDouglas F-18, starting in TWS; ye don't want to hard lock until the heart of the AIM-7 envelope, as the bogey will treat a STT lock-on as a "singer low," to use Navy and Marine Corps terminology for enemy SAM initial lock-on, and commence evasive manoeuvers.
Losing lock is one thing, other is the range of Super 530, significally shorter than russian and american SARH missiles. The good thing is, it's very agile.
Shorter range than an R-27ER, but very comparable range to an AIM-7M or R-27R. However, it is a faster missile than either of those, especially the very very sluggish Sparrow. Meaning that in a straight BVR fight against something like an F-15 carrying Sparrows, the Mirage reserves the option to shoot 2nd and hit first. Combined with the Mirage's extraordinary high-altitude performance, IMO it is the King of Western aircraft in a SARH fight.
@@JETZcorp Indeed Ideal conditions Mach 5 for the 530D.
What i do not understand is , when you steer for the lead box, you dont loose lock ??
With a radar lock no you don't
Cap, are you on the old model? Your cockpit is wrong. No countermeasure panel or NVG holder and your radio is wrong.
Yes I have just modified the old vids to take into account the new controls
@@grimreapers Right you are, thanks for clarifying.
You'll be making a third, fourth and fifth update knowing Razbam :))
yup pretty fed up with it TBH
It's only been out for over two years though...we should cut them some slack...
I don't know if their new 'partners' at the AdA are going to be happy with their complete lack of communication and snail pace development. Right now the Mirage is virtually unuseable in my opinion, I dunno what your lads have been making of it. The radar won't lock in auto acquisition, the hud goes spastic and it's basically a WVR guns platform.
this didnt age well
In both missiles bvr is insufficient
So once the lock is lost and suppose you have a missile in the air you can't reacquire the target and the missile continue to track? Seems a bit rubbish.
Ya it's a real prob
Doesnt the 530 use a flood mode if loose lock? Sure i seen that in the tutorials somewhere
be me, learn the mirage in DCS 1.5, switch to F18 and A10c.
Wants to fly mirage again, hops in cockpit in 2.5.6, remembers exactly how to fly mirage from 1.5 thinking nothing changed.
Immediately realize that i have no idea wtf im doing.
I officially know how to fly the A10c and the mirage is still confusing to me SMH
Mayra 530 os old missile,similar to old saparrow,why don't have Matra Mica similar to amram?
I dont believe they were ever equipped on the m2kc. They are however on the m2000-5
@@MrClassytangerine you can add the Mica-ir on the m2k variant and the fire computer recognised it as magic-2 and use the same procedures, but with not data link mid-course update in the fighter you cannot exploit the long range of the mica missile. HAF M2000EGM/BGM variants now use the mica-ir version for selfprotection instead of magic-2 becouse the magic missiles were expired and the mbda asked alot for refurbished them. also the add of datalinks needed to be done with an modernised program with new radars (the old RDM-3 radar its obsolete and had problems from the begining) data links etc but dasault not ofering an AESA or even PESA radars for modernising the mirage-2k they focus on the rafale sales now, so not worthy the money. if they ofered minimal modernisation with data link for the mica mid course update, data link-16, new main mission computer and new MFDs on the old radar screen on a reasonable cost it would worth it.
@@petros311 alright. They still weren't used on the 2kc...... That's why it's not available in dcs
@@MrClassytangerine Oh i see, just becouse i see the hellenic airforce skin on the mirage2000, but in the game its C variant not the E that the HAF has!
thanks bud
got the fitgirl repack to-rr-ent ;)
(bought persian gulf + F16 + Flaming Cliffs add-ons, but wanted to try out others....)
is that a hellas skin ?
no is the tiger meet skin !!!! owww someone reply you after 4 years !!!!i hope u are ok
Thank you for the great guides. Any idea if the Mirage has Target Unlock function anymore? None of the functions I have tried has worked.
I have same problem!
@@grimreapers Weapons SystemsCMD Depress seems to be the only way, but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to use that function for that purpose. I'm a noob with the plane.
Why is still the old cockpit model?
I have just modified the old vids to take into account the new controls
weapon firing doesnt even work for me in the mirage, followed every tutorial on the net, NOTHING
th-cam.com/video/UtpAN6vK0y4/w-d-xo.html
@@grimreapers oh thank you!!
why your missle sound different
“Button that we selected earlier” what???
1:14
mirage hud is like f16 hud
For some reason the missile just doesn’t launch. Idk why
Try with First stage and second stage trigger
@@arkeumtheplatypus4437 I’ll have to check
Who’s watching this at 11:08am?
Two hours 40 minutes until 11:08 here
Hard to follow your fast english... I have to watch at this video many many times.... 🤣
play at 75% speed.
@@grimreapers Thank you very much... I realized now, that we can set different speeds on the video...........😁
Your tutorials would ba a lot better if you wouldn't do them like you are trying to win a Speed Talking Contest