Jazak Allah khair for uploading this interesting and scholarly lecture. Yasir Qadhi brings out the tensions between a desire to base one's religion on rational grounds and the danger that such an approach can actually undermine one's iman. May Allah the Exalted reward Shaykh Yasir in this world and the hereafter.
Very superb & profound lecture indeed -- may Allah reward Shaykh Yasir Qadhi for his great efforts and educating the Ummah on such critical subjects - Aameen
I agree Ahmed. God cannot be proved nor disproved. We cannot say for sure whether a god exists or not. The point is that due to the fact that there is no sufficient evidence for the existence of a god it is illogical to believe that one exists.
We worship God and God alone. Jesus (as) is a but a creation. He had a beginning and he will have an end. He needed food, water, air and he did activities all other humans do like using the bathroom, etc. God is above and beyond such needs. He is Lord of the heavens and the earth and He does not need to beget a son to forgive humanity. He says be and it is.
How is it superficial? Can you refute some of his points? His main point was the kalam cosmological argument, which as far as I know, all Asharis believe in.
I find it really interesting that he completely neglects philosophers as both the Mu'tazilah and Ash'ariyyah (especially the Ahs'ariyyah) are responding to them. The Ash'ari scholars themselves said that they would rather not engage in Kalam, but with the fasaad of philosophy, it became necessary to prove Islam and Islamic theology via rationalism. The Kalam schools didn't develop in a vacuum. They developed as a response to the pure heresy and semi-atheism of the falaasifa.
The later version of the kalam cosmological argument says: 1) Everything that begins to exist has a cause for it's existence 2) The universe began to exist 3) Therefore the universe has a cause for it's existence 4) This cause has to be an uncaused cause do to the absurdity of the infinite regress of causes.
If you're referring to a pressure such as climate then yes I agree that would be a random pressure. Another example could be the asteroid that supposedly killed of the dinosaurs. That is a completely random event. I am specifically talking about the predator/prey battle and the many other extraordinary ways that living things are reliant on one another.
Precisely! As you've just said. It's "will", not chance. Animals feed on other animals and the animals which are best suited to their surroundings are more likely to survive and pass on their genes.
I am well aware that natural selection is not the only mechanism for the complexity and diversity that we see in life. I never said it was the only mechanism. I said that natural selection is the exact opposite of chance, which is true.
There are a variety of selection pressures on humans which would have come into play. Being killed by predators would have undoubtedly been one of them when we were hunter gatherers living on the african plains.
@ManifestationOfTruth Wsalam. Exactly as you said. But that part i couldn't make sense of is called "speciation" The notion that one animal "speciated" into another. Other than that most evolutionary theories are actually very close to what Islam says as the origin of life.
Evolution isn't science. Its fairy tales. I've been to school and I've studied evolution and couldn't help but burst into laughter every few seconds. I love science and plan to make a career in it, but wait....IN USEFUL science like Physics. Haters gonna hate.
Your comment was put across poorly which is why I had trouble understanding it. I do not want to argure about language. I simply want to understand what you're trying to put across.
I'm not entitely sure what you're trying to say but seem to be taling about abilgenesis which is something quite different. I am specifically talking about evolution by natural selection. Natural selection is not relant on chance. It is reliant on the actions of living things.
A Guide to Conclusive Proofs for the Principles of Belief (Arabic: الإرشاد إلى قواطع الأدلة في أصول الاعتقاد, romanized: Al-Irshad 'ila Qawati' al-Adilla fi Usul al-I'tiqad), commonly known simply as Al-Irshad ("The Guide"), is a major classic of Islamic theology. Its author, Al-Juwayni,
I never said that chance doesn't exist in the univerese. I'm saying that evolution by natural selection is not chance. Why are you mixing up the big bang with evolution anyway? They're two completely different things. Evolution by natural selection is not chance. I suggest you educate yourself on the subject.
@blkmun86 That's strange... because when any human being on the face of the Earth today opens up a copy of the CHRISTIAN Bible... [♦ not an Arabian book ♦] - the Bible... "The Book of Genesis" !!! And go to The Very Beginning [Genesis 1:1], and read the first line - "In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth" -
I have not come to the conclusion that there is a god because I have not seen any evidence for one. My conclusion that my great great great great great great great great great grandmother existed is based on a level of evidence and reason which makes it perfectly justifiable and logical for me to conclude that she existed. The same cannot be said for the existence of a god. I agree that creation requires a creator, but I do not believe that the universe or life was created.
Why do you keep telling me to take biology? You do not need to take a course in biology to understand how evolution by natural selection works. I fully understand how evolution by natural selection works and it is not reliant on luck or chance.
The strongest will? What on earth are you talking about? By the sound of it you don't seem to understand what evoltion by natural selction is or how it works. It's not chance.
It is now clear to me that you obviously have a huge misunderstanding of evolution by natural selection. It's not chance. To be clear explain to me what you think natural selection is and how it works.
You're the one who obviously doesn't understand evolution by natural selection. Natural selection is the explanation for the apparent design, perfection, complexity and variation of life on earth. It is the exact opposite of chance. I suggest you educate yourself on the subject.
umm i took bio as my lab in first year at high school. When my teacher started explaining evolution, LOL i realized its nothing but crap. Sounded like POKEMON more than it sounded like science...
If you want to learn about Ashari/Maturidi 'aqeedah, go sit down the scholars of these schools and learn from them. No wahhabis will ever give you the truth including YQ since they didn't sit down with Ashari/Maturidi scholars and take knowledge from them. They only know spread the fasad of the deviant beliefs of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhhab. Ashari/Maturidi are the majority for over a thousand year and Allah will not let majority go astray!
Have you ever read Abu Hasan Al Ashari book? A layman who's never read any book wants to debunk a scholar. The internet has really caused lots of disrespect
Jazak Allah khair for uploading this interesting and scholarly lecture. Yasir Qadhi brings out the tensions between a desire to base one's religion on rational grounds and the danger that such an approach can actually undermine one's iman. May Allah the Exalted reward Shaykh Yasir in this world and the hereafter.
Very superb & profound lecture indeed -- may Allah reward Shaykh Yasir Qadhi for his great efforts and educating the Ummah on such critical subjects - Aameen
JazakAllah Khair for uploading. I was there!! Its good to hear this lecture again. May Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala reward Sheikh Yasir Qadhi!
I agree Ahmed.
God cannot be proved nor disproved. We cannot say for sure whether a god exists or not.
The point is that due to the fact that there is no sufficient evidence for the existence of a god it is illogical to believe that one exists.
We worship God and God alone.
Jesus (as) is a but a creation. He had a beginning and he will have an end.
He needed food, water, air and he did activities all other humans do like using the bathroom, etc.
God is above and beyond such needs. He is Lord of the heavens and the earth and He does not need to beget a son to forgive humanity.
He says be and it is.
Very Superficial understanding of the Ashari and Maturidi creed
For us to get a sound understand of the ashari and maturidi creed what you reccomend
ByChoiceMuslim do you recommend dreams to be ones guidance to understanding the Ashari & Maturidi creed?
How is it superficial? Can you refute some of his points? His main point was the kalam cosmological argument, which as far as I know, all Asharis believe in.
I find it really interesting that he completely neglects philosophers as both the Mu'tazilah and Ash'ariyyah (especially the Ahs'ariyyah) are responding to them. The Ash'ari scholars themselves said that they would rather not engage in Kalam, but with the fasaad of philosophy, it became necessary to prove Islam and Islamic theology via rationalism. The Kalam schools didn't develop in a vacuum. They developed as a response to the pure heresy and semi-atheism of the falaasifa.
This guy is salafi.
The later version of the kalam cosmological argument says:
1) Everything that begins to exist has a cause for it's existence
2) The universe began to exist
3) Therefore the universe has a cause for it's existence
4) This cause has to be an uncaused cause do to the absurdity of the infinite regress of causes.
wow this is awesome!!!
30:10 Yaaaaaaa!!! Here comes my hero! =)
Shaykh-ul-Islam ;)
If you're referring to a pressure such as climate then yes I agree that would be a random pressure.
Another example could be the asteroid that supposedly killed of the dinosaurs. That is a completely random event.
I am specifically talking about the predator/prey battle and the many other extraordinary ways that living things are reliant on one another.
Precisely! As you've just said. It's "will", not chance.
Animals feed on other animals and the animals which are best suited to their surroundings are more likely to survive and pass on their genes.
I'm not talking about natural laws. I'm specifically referring to animal behaviour!
I am well aware that natural selection is not the only mechanism for the complexity and diversity that we see in life. I never said it was the only mechanism. I said that natural selection is the exact opposite of chance, which is true.
There are a variety of selection pressures on humans which would have come into play. Being killed by predators would have undoubtedly been one of them when we were hunter gatherers living on the african plains.
@ManifestationOfTruth Wsalam. Exactly as you said. But that part i couldn't make sense of is called "speciation" The notion that one animal "speciated" into another.
Other than that most evolutionary theories are actually very close to what Islam says as the origin of life.
is there any better audio version on this speech? The voice is not really clear.
I am well aware that there are a variety of conditions which come into play. What's your point?
Where can i find a good quality video
Evolution isn't science. Its fairy tales. I've been to school and I've studied evolution and couldn't help but burst into laughter every few seconds.
I love science and plan to make a career in it, but wait....IN USEFUL science like Physics.
Haters gonna hate.
Your comment was put across poorly which is why I had trouble understanding it. I do not want to argure about language. I simply want to understand what you're trying to put across.
What do you mean by "the dominating natural force"?
why is it lagging
fun lecture
I'm not entitely sure what you're trying to say but seem to be taling about abilgenesis which is something quite different.
I am specifically talking about evolution by natural selection. Natural selection is not relant on chance. It is reliant on the actions of living things.
What do you mean exactly?
@blkmun86 vessels only pour forth what they contain. May allah guide you and us closer to the truth of islam ameen
I have no idea what you mean.
What is the name of the book that he mentions at 50 mins, can some one post a the name and a link to that book.
al irshad by juwayni . He was the teacher of Ghazali.
A Guide to Conclusive Proofs for the Principles of Belief (Arabic: الإرشاد إلى قواطع الأدلة في أصول الاعتقاد, romanized: Al-Irshad 'ila Qawati' al-Adilla fi Usul al-I'tiqad), commonly known simply as Al-Irshad ("The Guide"), is a major classic of Islamic theology. Its author, Al-Juwayni,
Beliefs have nothing to do with it. I called it pretentious specifically because of the language.
I never said that chance doesn't exist in the univerese. I'm saying that evolution by natural selection is not chance.
Why are you mixing up the big bang with evolution anyway? They're two completely different things.
Evolution by natural selection is not chance. I suggest you educate yourself on the subject.
Get a cam, make a video showing your "deep understanding" and let's see what you got.
Evidence for the existence of a god? What evidence is there?
@blkmun86 That's strange... because when any human being on the face of the Earth today opens up a copy of the CHRISTIAN Bible... [♦ not an Arabian book ♦] - the Bible... "The Book of Genesis" !!!
And go to The Very Beginning [Genesis 1:1], and read the first line - "In the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth" -
I have not come to the conclusion that there is a god because I have not seen any evidence for one.
My conclusion that my great great great great great great great great great grandmother existed is based on a level of evidence and reason which makes it perfectly justifiable and logical for me to conclude that she existed. The same cannot be said for the existence of a god.
I agree that creation requires a creator, but I do not believe that the universe or life was created.
Why do you keep telling me to take biology? You do not need to take a course in biology to understand how evolution by natural selection works.
I fully understand how evolution by natural selection works and it is not reliant on luck or chance.
The strongest will? What on earth are you talking about?
By the sound of it you don't seem to understand what evoltion by natural selction is or how it works.
It's not chance.
How is my brain evidence for the existence of a god?
who created your brain?
It is now clear to me that you obviously have a huge misunderstanding of evolution by natural selection.
It's not chance.
To be clear explain to me what you think natural selection is and how it works.
You're the one who obviously doesn't understand evolution by natural selection.
Natural selection is the explanation for the apparent design, perfection, complexity and variation of life on earth. It is the exact opposite of chance.
I suggest you educate yourself on the subject.
umm i took bio as my lab in first year at high school.
When my teacher started explaining evolution, LOL i realized its nothing but crap. Sounded like POKEMON more than it sounded like science...
If you want to learn about Ashari/Maturidi 'aqeedah, go sit down the scholars of these schools and learn from them. No wahhabis will ever give you the truth including YQ since they didn't sit down with Ashari/Maturidi scholars and take knowledge from them. They only know spread the fasad of the deviant beliefs of Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhhab. Ashari/Maturidi are the majority for over a thousand year and Allah will not let majority go astray!
There is no evidence for the existence of a god. It is therefore illogical to believe that one exists.
hmm, you don't seem to understand what logic is.
ps, yes there is evidence.
I just call it pretentious.
Asha'ira don't believe in what this guy is saying.
What do you know 😅😅
Have you ever read Abu Hasan Al Ashari book? A layman who's never read any book wants to debunk a scholar. The internet has really caused lots of disrespect