the plo caused the conflict. Had they not tried to fight israel from lebanon thousands wouldn't have died and lebanon would've continued her development without problem
In 1982, Sharon exploited the attack in Shmuel Argov by the renegade Abu Nidal faction to remake Lebanon to Israel’s liking. He sought, once and for all, to eliminate the PLO from the country and to proceed to bring the Phalangist Christian fascists to power. By installing what would in effect be a pro-Israeli puppet regime, the Israeli defense minister sought to remake the geo-politics of the region to Israel’s liking. Due to the Sabra and Shatilla massacre and assassination of Israel’s designated presidential candidate, Bashir Gemayel, things did not turn out as Sharon had anticipated. Secret IDF report anticipated the permanent conquest and occupation of territory of its frontline Arab neighbors
Israel created a Terrorist group called the the Front for the Liberation of Lebanon from Foreigners (FLLF) they carried out dozens of attacks on Palestinian civilians. Y net journalist investigated about this but the Israeli Military censored it. [Ariel] Sharon hoped that these operations would provoke Arafat into attacking Israel, which could then respond by invading Lebanon, or at least make the PLO retaliate against the Phalange, whereupon Israel would be able to leap in great force to the defense of the Christians.
Here’s another Palestinian hater blame all of Lebanon problem on the Palestinians the other day some dumb phalange blamed the recent Lebanese economic problems on Palestinians 😂🤣
Just a small detail for 8:35, while the south Lebanese Shia Muslims were getting increasingly fed up of Israeli actions because of PLO activities, the eastern Beeka valley Lebanese Shia Muslims still largely supported the PLO since they didn't suffer from their actions. This is why most of Amal and Musa al Sadr supporters were from South Lebanon
According to all my research on the Lebanese issues during the 1970s-90s, you are on the money 100% right. Great job and an outstanding interpretation and the unraveling of this issue.
Waw 100% means perfect, so he took a very complicated topic which has at least 3 or even 4 sides to the story, and he nailed it? Ok, I guess you mean to say that you agree with most of his statements, and that you are not sure if the full story has been described here, but based on the information you chose or you were able to gather, it matches with most of the information in this video. Got it.
@@orangetuono38 Understand in that part of the world; anyone from each side doesn't acknowledge their own atrocities; and also they're TOTALLY justifiable, WE'RE The real victims. I know I'm from a diff Mediterranean nation who massacred a religious group; but was also ruled by and massacred by that same group. I cant talk to my family, at ALL about my degrees in history. THEYRE DEVILS, WE'RE ANGELS. Just drop it. They're not teachable. You'll enrage them until they enrage you. Drop it.
How is this neutral and unbiased? He says that these palestinian orginizations are terrorist but he doesn't mention that they are trying to get their land back that was stolen by european colonialist. And, he only uses pro western/israeli books to explain the situation + in his videos the arab muslims are always seen as villains because they are trying to stop peace talks but these talks are almost always in favor of israel.
I think you need to add context and to preface this video with one about Black September and why Arafat and his army moved to Lebanon in the first place. After the PLO tried to take over Jordan (aided by Syria) in September 1970, Arafat and his whole army were violently expelled from Jordan. Lebanon was too weak politically to refuse, so the PLO set up shop there instead. All of Southern Lebanon was now called Fatah-land, where the PLO created a state-within-a-state to carry out attacks on Israel. These took the form of frequent barrages of Katyusha rockets fired into Israeli cities as well commando raids executed to terrorize Israeli civilians. As the PLO encroached on Christian enclaves in a attempt to take over more of Lebanon, the civil war broke out to counter that activity.
@@AndyKaknes Even more important: PLO hijacked 4 planes, and blew up 3 of them, targeting Americans and Jews, IN JORDAN, thats how they got expelled. Israels occupation of west bank and war of 1967 conquest sucks, but the PLO wasnt doing the Palestinian cause ANY FAVORS. Events throughout 70s and 80's made Palestinian cause loathed in US. 9/11 put an end to it forever. Even though Israel should abandon west bank, its taboo here to even speak it. Here comes someone to call this comment anti semitic.
The PLO always used the Arab refugee populations as fodder for their political objectives. Imagine if Greece and other nations did the same against their adversaries.
Syria was asked by the Lebanese govt. to intervene and the Phalangist missed the opportunity to bring Lebanon together, instead aligned themselves with Israel. That’s how Hezbollah was born. Don’t forget everyone was switching sides. At one point the Shia had two militias, the Amal movement and then Hezbollah. Syria was allied with Amal at first and then later on Hezbollah with Iranian help. The Lebanese civil war was a mess. Need a 3 hour documentary to fully understand it
I feel like there's a certain bias in these videos, although I am enjoying this series a lot, and can't wait for the next few videos. One example, is how you mentioned the Damour massacre, but failed to mention that this was in retaliation to the massacre at Karantina. You described the Karantina massacre as simply a Christian takeover, but made sure to mention the massacre at Damour. Other than that, keep up the good work!
I am a Lebanese historical nerd, and I need to re-watch the video to check if something is missing because it was kind of fast, but from first impression, it's good
I would like to say that Maronites didn't receive support from Saudi Arabia and Egypt, they were either publicly supporting the palestinians or de Faux-neutral
One thing, you keep repeating “Christian and Palestinians, or Christians and the PLO” There were a lot of Orthodox Christians among the Palestinian refugees. And the PLO’s founders were mostly Orthodox Christian. So it wasn’t just Lebanese Christians vs Palestinian Muslims. There were Christians fighting Christians. Thank you for your research and work; and, giving attention to a beautiful country full of beautiful people. I am part of the Lebanese diaspora 🇱🇧. We all yearn for economic stability and peace in Lebanon.
Exactly. So many people have the misconception that all Palestinians or all Arabs are Muslim jihadists - when in actuality, a lot of them are Christian, arguably some of the oldest Christians out there.
Tbh, as far as I can tell, the Palestinian Christians is basically a non-entity. This is especially important since the Palestinians rooted their identity in Islam which leaves no room for other religious minorities.
@@alexn.2901 You're clearly shilling for Palestinians. We have data and statistics, and in 2022 there were around 1k Christians in Palestinian territories. A massive drop from 50k in 2009 that you'd almost think that the Palestinians committed an ethnic cleansing at some point. But that's not unique to them. Christians, Jews, and other non-Muslim groups have been disappearing across the MENA region. Wow, its almost like its a hellhole for non-Muslims or something...
My dad’s village was littered with black African mercenaries hired by Arafat trying to wipe out the Christian population. War is filthy tactics and double crossing. Christian militias against Christian militias sects Muslim against Muslim sects.
Israel has many sympathisers in Lebanon, but they are silenced by the corrupt terrorist regime that has been ruling Lebanon since the civil war. Many Lebanese see themselves as closer to europe than the Muslim world but they need international economic material support to be able to remain in Lebanon. great video
What a great documentary. I cannot wait until the next parts! Personally, my family are Maronites, so, I have my own view of this, but it’s interesting to see the history of the whole conflict from a whole different perspective.
Also, the most ironic thing was that this Kurd named Jumblatt (he's not Druze and wasn't associated with us until after his assassination) asked for help from the country that assassinated him (aka Syria)...
@@ananmuadi31 G’day from a Lebanese born Australian. History will not be kind to Kamal Junblatt or any of the Mafia leadership of Lebanon. He should’ve sided with the Maronites because being Druze and a minority in the Middle East like the Maronites both would’ve been slaughtered if the crazies ever got total control over Lebanon. Every family in Lebanon no matter their religion came from somewhere, the Druze are no different although I don’t recognise his children as Druze as their Mother isn’t Druze. The irony and hypocrisy of thieves and murderers like the PLO/Fatah and Syrians. Arafat crying about a stolen homeland sought to steal ours via rape and murder. Watch Road to war Lebanon 1969 by the BBC.
@@kaus3587 Time is like a wheel History won't be kind to the fascist zionists in Lebanon who collaborated with the enemy against other Lebanese communities Yesterday's most oppressed , discriminated , and persecuted faith in the world which is Twelver Imami Shi'tes are having the strongest grip over the middle east and Lebanon . The one who laughs at the end shall laugh the most .
@@History_Matters I’m not a fan of Hezbshaytan, their attack on Israel in 2006 led to the final destruction of the country. Also their attempt to seize control in 2008 via a minor civil war destroyed their facade of defending Lebanon. The fact that the Terrorists use Lebanon for a battlefield is disheartening. Hezbshaytan serves Iran not the Lebanese people.
I think this video could be made better if you included a visual for the year that each event took place. Without any sense of time, it just felt like you reading off a list of events.
So we're not going to call Telet Zaatar a slaughter then? 3000 Palestinians killed and many of them women and children? Somehow you skip over the details as to why the Druze lashed out and attacked the Maronites, yet when the Maronites commit a slaughter, it becomes conveniently swept under the rug as an "offensive"? Other than that, there are a few details skipped, such as the Lahad Army of the Shia that was backed by Israel, but acceptable overall, except for the details aforementioned above.
Tell El Zaatar was a large military PLO camp, the main one, and the PLO was trying to link it with other camps in an effort to cut off East Beirut from the Christian areas. The Lebanese Front had no choice but to take Tall El Zaatar or they would have lost control of East Beirut, de facto removing the Christians from the capital. During this battle the Christians lost 800 fighters, to the 3000 Palestinians who were mostly armed militia men. There were civilian casualties sure, but this was no massacre. This was a real strategic victory for the Lebanese Front. Without it, we might not still be in Lebanon today :)
@@History_Matters I mean towards the earlier phase of Lahad, there was significant Shia support, Hezbollah wasn't even created yet. To the point where it's quoted that Shia families were throwing rice at Israeli forces upon their entering of Shia villages.
@@nadimyazbeck5536 Nadim, no one's claiming the area wasn't strategic, and I'm well aware of the atrocities that the Palestinians even had committed *prior* to Tal El Zaatar, but there were definitely many civilian casualties, and it was commonly referred to as a "madba7a". This video should've both pointed out prior Palestinian slaughters, and the grim reality of Tal Al Zaatar as well.
@@johnprice3593 thank you for the professional reply. Just to put things into perspective, Tall El Zaatar wasn't liberated by a regular army with rules of engagement, but rather by a very angry populace... hence atrocities, especially in the first phases of the conflict were very common everywhere. That being said, the civilian casualties in Tall El Zaatar were relatively mild in comparison with other areas. This camp was transformed into a fortress with a complex network of underground tunnels similar to those engineered by the Viet Cong... the battle was very tough with multiple accounts of melee combat... the civilians were allowed to leave the camp safely, but a lot of those who opted to remain were killed, not in a genocidal way, but because it was very hard to know who's entrenched behind a wall or fox hole... etc. In the end, only the dead have seen the end of war...
@@CasualHistorian perfecto. I liked how you showed the war progress on the map. Made it easy for us to follow. Ensure that you continue this trend and expand apon it as I saw a few things were missed. (Towns being captured etc) Theres so little on this conflict. Great to see its getting some well deserved light
Syria was paid with some arabs countries to make peace.they all left and sytia stayed.it was good money for her economy.thats why many lebanese are happy watching syria destroyed.its a shame..assad family destroyed our relations.
Your videos about Lebanon are fantastic. I was watching many of the Frank Gannon interviews with Richard Nixon, and he was talking about the Arab leaders he had met and specifically of Sadat and Faisal and said that they were both very intelligent men who comprehended geopolitics very well. But when the topic of Israel/Jews came up they would become unhinged, conspiratorial, and completely irrational. It feels the same with most people online who discuss Israel or Jews so it's nice to see someone who is actually capable of speaking about us in an objective way. I cannot begin express how much I appreciate it.
These videos are so pro-Israel, it’s ridiculous. “Lebanon failed to naturalize the Palestinian refugees.” Ok what country naturalizes all the refugees that it accepts. Doesn’t mention how those Palestinians became refugees in the first place. In another video he shows the Golan Heights as being part of Israel. If you want an unbiased account, watch other videos.
You lost like 7 wars - deal with it. look at world history - nations are built from war. so why demonize israel as if THE ENTIRE WORLD didnt do the same throught history? you are JUST as biased. hypocrite.
i'll tell you 2 tales of Lebanese history you probably never heard of 1- during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982, and after the long siege of Beirut and the withdrawal of PLO, the IDF suddenly forced their way into the city and occupied it ........they thought it was safe, but then the people of Beirut, without any organization , killed dozens of soldiers and officers in small personal acts of resistance........2 days later, IDF patrols with loudspeakers began roaming the city, calling out : people of Beirut, we are withdrawing in the morning...please stop shooting !! it might not sound much, but personally it was the proudest moment of my life 2- in the aftermath of the invasion, the US backed Lebanese president, who was tasked with signing a separate peace treaty with Israel, was facing a revolution.....so the US deployed the 6th fleet on Lebanese shores , and landed marines to support the traitor president and his army against the peoples will.....fast forward a few days, and you have 2 bomb trucks crashing the marines base , killing 241 Americans and 50 French marines....the US withdraws immediately , tail between legs, leaving their traitor allies to their destiny...and they never return now that's casual history worth mentioning!
As for no.1: it's only your developed Arab imagination. Israel didn't enter Beirut, only few streets in West Beirut. They bombed Beirut in order to kick out the P.L.O. from Beirut. After few days an International force arrived and evacuate them from Lebanon. 11,000 of them. Almost no killed Israeli soldiers, not Officers and no brave Lebanese organizations and loud speakers. How do I know all of this? Guess.... As for no. 2: I do not know, I wasn't there at that time.
@@simko8665 i was there mate ....had a fucking merkava parked under my balcony they even searched my home for "terrorists" when a young man (a hero) gunned down and officer and 3 soldiers on my street get your history right
@@simko8665 th-cam.com/video/BCu_d4TU_KU/w-d-xo.html then what do you call this ? wimpi operation was the most famous one because it took place in Hamra street, where IDF officers thought they could just have a coffee 😂 there were many more ... u can live in denial as much as you like , but it's all documented besides i don't understand what's the big deal ......oh maybe the invincible idf soldiers are immortal! you should have heard them squeal like pigs in 2006
This video has a very heavy positive bias towards Israel. Don’t try to downplay what Israel has done. They’ve been a menace in the region as much as any other country in the region.
It's pretty hard to not sound biased towards Israel when describing a war that was started by Palestinians trying to conquer their Arab neighbors and expel religious minorities while using an entire country as a human shield. While also focusing on how Syria (one of the 2 countries still fighting Israel at this point) took advantage of this situation to also try and conquer one of their Arab neighbors
this video is very biased,you fail to mention the massacre at Katarina but you don't hesitate to talk about the one in Darmour which was a response to it.You draw Sharon as some kind of Saint even though the israelis allowed the massacre of multiple palestinans refugee camps by the christians.
Yaser Arafat died an untried blood-sucking war criminal. Palestinian "Refugees" had no right under internation law to carry weapons on the territory of another country (blame the Lebanese government for signing the Cairo agreement for that). The Palestinians asked for war with Israel and got what they asked for.
I believe Lebanese, Syrians, Palestinians, Jordanians, and Iraqis are one people, and we will be united one day. We cannot isolate and divide ourselves anymore, all races and religions must come together. Blessings to my family in the Fertile Crescent, from a Lebanese-American.
Lebanese alone can hardly be considered one people To say that a Christian from Lebanon and a sunni from baghdad are the same is ignorent at best ! Or is it that you discount minorities in this "people" of yours ?
@@salemhajj3112 You think race and religion are the only things that matter in a people. How shallow your thoughts are, I hope you can bettef educate yourself on the people of the Fertile Crescent. Start by learning about the land itself, because that is from which all other aspects of culture stem.
If u go to the nacional socialist party of those same countries that's exactly what they propose- this means it's a proposition of the nazis. Keep that in mind.
'Force the Israelis to inflict civilian casualties' ignores the fact that they had the choice as to how to respond and they chose not to do so with precision. They weren't the only country to suffer terror attacks in the seventies but their response was on a different scale. Claiming that they had no choice is disingenuous.
“Chose not to do so with precision “ How do you strike with precision when you enemies purposefully hide themselves amongst civilians areas. It is a natural consequence that bystanders will be injured/killed. This is different from the PLO deliberately firing into civilian territories
@@sjappiyah4071 Hostage situations usually don't result in the use of artillery or airstrikes. A few European countries were dealing with terror attacks during this period, none reacted with near the same civilian casualty count. In both cases the PLO and IDF fired into civilian areas, it's not impossible to view both as wrong to do so.
At 1:00, while this is probably a sound analysis of the PLO guerilla strategy, it completely ignores the fact that Israel had no absolute need to attack at all, and could have simply ended the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and granted the right to return to their homes as part of a negotiation to end the conflict entirely. Had the PLO assembled all of their troops into a conventional military base it would have been leveled immediately by Israeli forces. The fact that the PLO used their only viable military strategy should surprise no-one. Conventional warfare is a luxury of super-powers. The idea that violence was unavoidable or that Israel was somehow forced to attack into civilian areas is just careless and ignores the political agency of the factions involved. Both had options of non-violence and diplomacy and chose not to. The reasoning behind those political decisions would make a much better and more interesting history video instead of just repeating pretext. At 8:00, use of "the Christians" and "the Muslims" are poor generalizations in this context. Throughout the video, conflating political factions with religious groups is again just repeating their own propaganda which is not helpful for meaningful progress or education. At 15:00, you do a good job of separating Syrian pretext from actual goals. More of this would be responsible when discussing other factions' actions.
@@ryanp56 > The idea that violence was unavoidable or that Israel was somehow forced to attack into civilian areas is just careless and ignores the political agency of the factions involved 1. What political agency? Not responding to the raids would have been totally politically impossible. A pretty fundamental part of the social contract of Israel (and every other country) is that the state will not just turn the other cheek to the brutal murder of hundreds of its citizens. 2. Of course Israel was forced to attack into civilian areas, that was the whole point of the strategy!
I see a world where France never insisted on giving the maronites that farmland, and they just made their money in peace and imported their food from the Arabs, who had more farmland and time to happy work it to make a surplus
I am maronite i am lebanese and i assure you they would've annexed this area as soon as it gained independence. And there was some maronite villages in the south and bekaa and north. Like damour chadra jezzine.... Maronites hold their heritage and history. They're the last stronghold and trace of Christianity in the middle east.
I did not like how the map rotated at 24:14. Felt disorienting and unnecessary considering not much was shown in detailed. Nevertheless, very good video.
So to clarify, the Palestinians were complaining that Israel occupied their homeland, so their response was to try and occupy a varying chunk of Lebanon and try to turn that into a homeland?
@@aiaivivi8286 Have they tried this with Egypt yet? I know the late 2000's early 2010's Egypt lost patience with them after Hamas dug a fuck ton of tunnels and blew up a wall segment while also supporting Sinai militants and the muslim brotherhood, especially after the Arab spring coup. To the point that Egypt has/had locked down the border with Gaza but did they ever try to turn Egypt into Palestine 2.0? xD
Your repeated use of the term "Islamist" here is completely inappropriate. There were no true Lebanese Islamists at this time. By Islamists, you seem to mean "Muslim," which is a very different thing. You also conflate "Christian" with "Maronite." These were not at all the same thing. The Maronites were by far the biggest Christian group, and they were very close to the Greek Catholics. Many Orthodox Christians, by contrast, were neutral, or even sided with LNM. The Orthodox SSNP had a militia, which I believe was allied with the LNM. All of that said, you do a very good job on the whole of tracing this bewildering array of groups. Here's what a Middle East Studies researcher from the US once told me regarding what Middle East Studies people in the the US think about Lebanon: "No one understands Lebanon."
Not sure that using Robert Fisk as a reference does anything for your credibility. Fisk is not a neutral, and his commentary has been both discredited and ridiculed . Fisk is political, only interested in his own narrative and not in relating history .
You cannot objectively describe a war that was caused by Palestinians conquering neighboring Arab states to use as country-wide human shields after being evicted from another Arab state for trying to conquer it without sounding pro-Israel lmao
Which side would you say actually killed more people during the war? The wikipedia article says over 100,000 people were killed, but doesn't assign responsibility.
You lost me from the beginning when you were not objective by making the israelis the good guys and the palestinians as the bad guys even though i blame heavily the palestinians for causing the lebanese civil war. Israel is an artificial country that existed by force . They are not the victims but the aggressors regardless of what approach the PLO used against them.
@@28Justchecking exactly we suffered greatly from all of them and all of them conspired against us. My issue with this excellent video is only the start where it depicted the palestinians as arab terrorists and israelis as victims while palestinians would have never came to lebanon and the syrians would not have invaded had the israeli state never existed by force and massacres in the first place.
@@michelazzam173 This just in; When you're murdering civilians and creating chaos for political motives, you're a terrorist no matter how much you tell yourself you're the good guy lol
The PLO entered Lebanon after Jordan kicked them out in 1970, an event called: Black September. The PLO used the Palestinian Arab refugee population and camps as bases for its attacks againt Israeli territory and civilians.
@Danny Al bro stop with that "lebanon was historically syrian" bs! Biggest syrian propaganda joke ever! How come you don't know about the truth??? FIRST OF ALL, they both gained independence in the same day (say no more), SECOND OF ALL, there weren't even borders back then inorder for "syria" to exist... have common sense already!!! We were all 1 LAND, the whole region.. so i'm talkin modern day Jordan, palestine, Lebanon and syria were all called SHAM, (levantine) and WITHIN sham, there were different kingdom-like areas and modern day Lebanon's cities were very important. THREE which is the most IMPORTANT one & makes the most sense + has evidence, PHONECIAN/CAANANITE LEBANON. manyyyyyy studies INCLUDING recent ones show that the lebanese people share genetics with phonecians (ancient greeks).. Phonecians (modern day) lebanese people lived there for years and now we own it. Syrians need to get over it ffs! Its a + for us REGARDLESS and history says it all
You mention massacres committed by the PLO but don't mention what happened to illicit the reaction. Sabra, Shatila, karantina, depravation, dehumanization, etc. Extreme bias for a imperialistic state but then again you guys are raised in a imperialist country -so not really surprising.
Or maybe just imagine this, what if the PLO never decided to invade Lebanon after failing to invade Jordan, that would've solved alot of issues and prevented Lebanon turning into the disaster it is to say
@@Ataturkinator Lebanon is a disaster because of french colonialism don't try to twist it. Also what do you suggest palestinian people do?-not organize and accept death/occupation. That's the problem with western people-you don't apply the same standards to yourself.
@@ouardi9900 Funny because Lebanon was a very functioning and prosperous state for 30+ years after French colonialism ended. How is invading Lebanon and Jordan with the express purpose of overthrowing their governments to force the entire country's population to act as a shield so they can fire rockets at civilians without repercussion "organizing and not accepting death". Literally all it did was further prove to both Israel AND all of their Arab neighbors to under no circumstance allow them to organize
Syria never invaded Lebanon. The Lebanese President requested that Syria's army enter the country to help the loyal remnant of the Leb army and police to stop the civil war. This goal had been largely accomplished by 1978, when Israel invaded to reinvigorate the conflict and to save its proxy army, the South Lebanon Army.
33:54// one exception: if u had used the word "things" in a video with context. then perhaps maybe, just maybe, there might be a few 'things' (when u mentioned the word 'things') as u referred to them as 'things', that may not have been really a 'thing' at all. // i do not recall if or when u may have used the word 'things'. However, if u have or ever plan to (use 'things' as some sort of adjective toward describing an event or a decision made by some person(s)), just be aware of this. myop a lot of people use the word 'thing'. they say, "the THING is..' and fill in the end of that Match Game sentence The Thing is a movie, made thrice/three times, by 3 different directors over a span of many decades. // but some folks use the same word with a capital to refer to events and deciding factors within people's heads (upon the when time a decision was made). the thing is the guy was a heavy smoker and when hitler made Chamberlain wait and wait and wait to have a smoke the brit fell to the whims of addiction. / The THING is a movie is my fav retort
Syria interfered after the Lebanese government asked them to enter to protect Lebanese Maronite. The first thing syria did is attack Palestinians and The Lebanese National Movement and killed their leader Kamal jounblat then the Lebanese Maronite flipped sides after Israel entered. So now the others flipped sides too.
Surprisingly there are sections of Tripoli that were untouched. Seeing the buildings in some streets from possibly the 60s untouched. Unbelievable. Like frozen in time. No bullet holes or shelling nothing & used for residential & retail. As if constructed recently but with a retro look.
@@suleyman8696 what year exactly? because what i can see is the foreign powers that invaded lebanon and syria like the ottomans for example put lebanon as the syrian province other and if we wanna go back to the antiquity empires were putting lebanon under syrian administration even though lebanon was phoenicia and mount lebanon who was like semi independent from the ottomans
the plo caused the conflict. Had they not tried to fight israel from lebanon thousands wouldn't have died and lebanon would've continued her development without problem
Spot on
In 1982, Sharon exploited the attack in Shmuel Argov by the renegade Abu Nidal faction to remake Lebanon to Israel’s liking. He sought, once and for all, to eliminate the PLO from the country and to proceed to bring the Phalangist Christian fascists to power. By installing what would in effect be a pro-Israeli puppet regime, the Israeli defense minister sought to remake the geo-politics of the region to Israel’s liking. Due to the Sabra and Shatilla massacre and assassination of Israel’s designated presidential candidate, Bashir Gemayel, things did not turn out as Sharon had anticipated.
Secret IDF report anticipated the permanent conquest and occupation of territory of its frontline Arab neighbors
Israel created a Terrorist group called the the Front for the Liberation of Lebanon from Foreigners (FLLF) they carried out dozens of attacks on Palestinian civilians. Y net journalist investigated about this but the Israeli Military censored it. [Ariel] Sharon hoped that these operations would provoke Arafat into attacking Israel, which could then respond by invading Lebanon, or at least make the PLO retaliate against the Phalange, whereupon Israel would be able to leap in great force to the defense of the Christians.
Here’s another Palestinian hater blame all of Lebanon problem on the Palestinians the other day some dumb phalange blamed the recent Lebanese economic problems on Palestinians 😂🤣
Just like the Saba massacre backed by Israel, done by the christians. They killed thousands of palestinan and one of the most grosume genocide
Thank you for including some of the quotations read my my dad and me!
Just a small detail for 8:35, while the south Lebanese Shia Muslims were getting increasingly fed up of Israeli actions because of PLO activities, the eastern Beeka valley Lebanese Shia Muslims still largely supported the PLO since they didn't suffer from their actions. This is why most of Amal and Musa al Sadr supporters were from South Lebanon
The Syrians originally came in to Lebanon to kill Palestinians ☠️
I still remember the time when large numbers of Lebanese arrived in Israel every day, worked there and had good life then.
@@simko8665 when was it?
@@inonbo1992 1985-2000. When I looked for it I saw that not so many of them worked in Israel. Only about 2,500 every year.
That’s a fascinating detail
According to all my research on the Lebanese issues during the 1970s-90s, you are on the money 100% right. Great job and an outstanding interpretation and the unraveling of this issue.
Waw 100% means perfect, so he took a very complicated topic which has at least 3 or even 4 sides to the story, and he nailed it? Ok, I guess you mean to say that you agree with most of his statements, and that you are not sure if the full story has been described here, but based on the information you chose or you were able to gather, it matches with most of the information in this video. Got it.
@@alaaraad5194 Sarcasm noted. What's your take? Please do share.
@@orangetuono38 Understand in that part of the world; anyone from each side doesn't acknowledge their own atrocities; and also they're TOTALLY justifiable, WE'RE The real victims. I know I'm from a diff Mediterranean nation who massacred a religious group; but was also ruled by and massacred by that same group. I cant talk to my family, at ALL about my degrees in history. THEYRE DEVILS, WE'RE ANGELS. Just drop it. They're not teachable. You'll enrage them until they enrage you. Drop it.
You bring amazing content esp on much neglected topics and from a very neutral unbiased perspective
Looking forward to more videos
How is this neutral and unbiased?
He says that these palestinian orginizations are terrorist but he doesn't mention that they are trying to get their land back that was stolen by european colonialist. And, he only uses pro western/israeli books to explain the situation + in his videos the arab muslims are always seen as villains because they are trying to stop peace talks but these talks are almost always in favor of israel.
idk if it's unbiased, but it definitely is fairly neautral
I think you need to add context and to preface this video with one about Black September and why Arafat and his army moved to Lebanon in the first place. After the PLO tried to take over Jordan (aided by Syria) in September 1970, Arafat and his whole army were violently expelled from Jordan. Lebanon was too weak politically to refuse, so the PLO set up shop there instead. All of Southern Lebanon was now called Fatah-land, where the PLO created a state-within-a-state to carry out attacks on Israel. These took the form of frequent barrages of Katyusha rockets fired into Israeli cities as well commando raids executed to terrorize Israeli civilians. As the PLO encroached on Christian enclaves in a attempt to take over more of Lebanon, the civil war broke out to counter that activity.
I mentioned it in a previous video. Aside from that, I have a video all about the PLO in the works
This is a very important point Banto. Thank you for mentioning this.
@@AndyKaknes Even more important: PLO hijacked 4 planes, and blew up 3 of them, targeting Americans and Jews, IN JORDAN, thats how they got expelled. Israels occupation of west bank and war of 1967 conquest sucks, but the PLO wasnt doing the Palestinian cause ANY FAVORS. Events throughout 70s and 80's made Palestinian cause loathed in US. 9/11 put an end to it forever. Even though Israel should abandon west bank, its taboo here to even speak it. Here comes someone to call this comment anti semitic.
The PLO always used the Arab refugee populations as fodder for their political objectives. Imagine if Greece and other nations did the same against their adversaries.
PLO was in refugee camps not allowed to buy or live in Christian ereas so don’t make up lies
I don’t know how we christians managed to live this long in this country while everybody wanted our death.
By hanging on to the coattails of anyone who could stomach you enough to use you as pawns.
Many fled the country
Kis emmak sho kizeb
@@bonnano7872 You make good points, but the non christians of lebanon want the christians gone... fact
Muslims will say the same
This video is amazing, as a Lebanese I want to thank you for talking about this sensitive subject for people to learn what really happened back then
Syria was asked by the Lebanese govt. to intervene and the Phalangist missed the opportunity to bring Lebanon together, instead aligned themselves with Israel. That’s how Hezbollah was born. Don’t forget everyone was switching sides. At one point the Shia had two militias, the Amal movement and then Hezbollah. Syria was allied with Amal at first and then later on Hezbollah with Iranian help. The Lebanese civil war was a mess. Need a 3 hour documentary to fully understand it
The lebanese civil war is unexplainable
I feel like there's a certain bias in these videos, although I am enjoying this series a lot, and can't wait for the next few videos. One example, is how you mentioned the Damour massacre, but failed to mention that this was in retaliation to the massacre at Karantina. You described the Karantina massacre as simply a Christian takeover, but made sure to mention the massacre at Damour.
Other than that, keep up the good work!
It was simply a Christian takeover just like Tal Al Zaatar, go watch the videos, it was clearly a battle
I am a Lebanese historical nerd, and I need to re-watch the video to check if something is missing because it was kind of fast, but from first impression, it's good
I would like to say that Maronites didn't receive support from Saudi Arabia and Egypt, they were either publicly supporting the palestinians or de Faux-neutral
This was a really good video about something I didn’t know much about
Thanks for doing a great job explaining a very complicated and sad war! Especially for a outsider like myself.
One thing, you keep repeating “Christian and Palestinians, or Christians and the PLO”
There were a lot of Orthodox Christians among the Palestinian refugees. And the PLO’s founders were mostly Orthodox Christian.
So it wasn’t just Lebanese Christians vs Palestinian Muslims. There were Christians fighting Christians.
Thank you for your research and work; and, giving attention to a beautiful country full of beautiful people. I am part of the Lebanese diaspora 🇱🇧. We all yearn for economic stability and peace in Lebanon.
Thank you for the information. I'd never thought of it that way.
Exactly. So many people have the misconception that all Palestinians or all Arabs are Muslim jihadists - when in actuality, a lot of them are Christian, arguably some of the oldest Christians out there.
Tbh, as far as I can tell, the Palestinian Christians is basically a non-entity. This is especially important since the Palestinians rooted their identity in Islam which leaves no room for other religious minorities.
@@stephenjenkins7971 You're clearly not Palestinian.
@@alexn.2901 You're clearly shilling for Palestinians. We have data and statistics, and in 2022 there were around 1k Christians in Palestinian territories. A massive drop from 50k in 2009 that you'd almost think that the Palestinians committed an ethnic cleansing at some point.
But that's not unique to them. Christians, Jews, and other non-Muslim groups have been disappearing across the MENA region. Wow, its almost like its a hellhole for non-Muslims or something...
My dad’s village was littered with black African mercenaries hired by Arafat trying to wipe out the Christian population.
War is filthy tactics and double crossing.
Christian militias against Christian militias sects
Muslim against Muslim sects.
Israel has many sympathisers in Lebanon, but they are silenced by the corrupt terrorist regime that has been ruling Lebanon since the civil war. Many Lebanese see themselves as closer to europe than the Muslim world but they need international economic material support to be able to remain in Lebanon. great video
Arab world*
What a great documentary. I cannot wait until the next parts! Personally, my family are Maronites, so, I have my own view of this, but it’s interesting to see the history of the whole conflict from a whole different perspective.
Great video Mr. Hurst,
The exploitation by the PLO and Syria is something I've not known before...
Also, the most ironic thing was that this Kurd named Jumblatt (he's not Druze and wasn't associated with us until after his assassination) asked for help from the country that assassinated him (aka Syria)...
The Jumblatt family are Druze with ethnic Kurdish roots.
@@ananmuadi31 G’day from a Lebanese born Australian. History will not be kind to Kamal Junblatt or any of the Mafia leadership of Lebanon. He should’ve sided with the Maronites because being Druze and a minority in the Middle East like the Maronites both would’ve been slaughtered if the crazies ever got total control over Lebanon.
Every family in Lebanon no matter their religion came from somewhere, the Druze are no different although I don’t recognise his children as Druze as their Mother isn’t Druze.
The irony and hypocrisy of thieves and murderers like the PLO/Fatah and Syrians. Arafat crying about a stolen homeland sought to steal ours via rape and murder.
Watch Road to war Lebanon 1969 by the BBC.
@@kaus3587 Time is like a wheel
History won't be kind to the fascist zionists in Lebanon who collaborated with the enemy against other Lebanese communities
Yesterday's most oppressed , discriminated , and persecuted faith in the world which is Twelver Imami Shi'tes are having the strongest grip over the middle east and Lebanon .
The one who laughs at the end shall laugh the most .
@@History_Matters I’m not a fan of Hezbshaytan, their attack on Israel in 2006 led to the final destruction of the country. Also their attempt to seize control in 2008 via a minor civil war destroyed their facade of defending Lebanon.
The fact that the Terrorists use Lebanon for a battlefield is disheartening.
Hezbshaytan serves Iran not the Lebanese people.
0:35 thru 1:33 - Same as now re: Oct. 7, 2023
I think this video could be made better if you included a visual for the year that each event took place. Without any sense of time, it just felt like you reading off a list of events.
So we're not going to call Telet Zaatar a slaughter then? 3000 Palestinians killed and many of them women and children? Somehow you skip over the details as to why the Druze lashed out and attacked the Maronites, yet when the Maronites commit a slaughter, it becomes conveniently swept under the rug as an "offensive"?
Other than that, there are a few details skipped, such as the Lahad Army of the Shia that was backed by Israel, but acceptable overall, except for the details aforementioned above.
Tell El Zaatar was a large military PLO camp, the main one, and the PLO was trying to link it with other camps in an effort to cut off East Beirut from the Christian areas. The Lebanese Front had no choice but to take Tall El Zaatar or they would have lost control of East Beirut, de facto removing the Christians from the capital. During this battle the Christians lost 800 fighters, to the 3000 Palestinians who were mostly armed militia men. There were civilian casualties sure, but this was no massacre. This was a real strategic victory for the Lebanese Front. Without it, we might not still be in Lebanon today :)
Lahd was predominantly Christian ✝️
The shi'tes supported Hezbollah
@@History_Matters I mean towards the earlier phase of Lahad, there was significant Shia support, Hezbollah wasn't even created yet. To the point where it's quoted that Shia families were throwing rice at Israeli forces upon their entering of Shia villages.
@@nadimyazbeck5536 Nadim, no one's claiming the area wasn't strategic, and I'm well aware of the atrocities that the Palestinians even had committed *prior* to Tal El Zaatar, but there were definitely many civilian casualties, and it was commonly referred to as a "madba7a". This video should've both pointed out prior Palestinian slaughters, and the grim reality of Tal Al Zaatar as well.
@@johnprice3593 thank you for the professional reply. Just to put things into perspective, Tall El Zaatar wasn't liberated by a regular army with rules of engagement, but rather by a very angry populace... hence atrocities, especially in the first phases of the conflict were very common everywhere. That being said, the civilian casualties in Tall El Zaatar were relatively mild in comparison with other areas. This camp was transformed into a fortress with a complex network of underground tunnels similar to those engineered by the Viet Cong... the battle was very tough with multiple accounts of melee combat... the civilians were allowed to leave the camp safely, but a lot of those who opted to remain were killed, not in a genocidal way, but because it was very hard to know who's entrenched behind a wall or fox hole... etc. In the end, only the dead have seen the end of war...
This was really interesting. Could you continue the video?
Already on it
@@CasualHistorian perfecto. I liked how you showed the war progress on the map.
Made it easy for us to follow. Ensure that you continue this trend and expand apon it as I saw a few things were missed. (Towns being captured etc)
Theres so little on this conflict. Great to see its getting some well deserved light
You had me at "... Israeli property be destroyed"
I think that you're a little biased against the Palestinians
That's right, he's against the Palestinians.
@@bab3808i mean palestinians wiped out half of the lebanese population i don't support em
They wasted 15 years of my parents' lives fighting over nothing.
It’s the Middle East man what do you expect
Woah fighting over nothing, only an idiot would say such a thing, were your parents even fighting
Great content and very underrated, looking forward to your vids!
great vids man
Syria was paid with some arabs countries to make peace.they all left and sytia stayed.it was good money for her economy.thats why many lebanese are happy watching syria
destroyed.its a shame..assad family destroyed our relations.
These Lebanese who are happy to see Syria fall are dumbs ppl. Lebanon can’t handle itself without Syria, look at Lebanon today.
As if Lebanon is not destroyed...
@@DeniShow99 Europe was twice destroyed. First and second world wars. We should fix our borders and have security.then prosperity will follow.
@@DeniShow99 let the syrians and palestiniens get out.we ll fix our country.don't worry about us look after yourself.
Great Vid dude. I did not know about this topic until now.
Your videos about Lebanon are fantastic.
I was watching many of the Frank Gannon interviews with Richard Nixon, and he was talking about the Arab leaders he had met and specifically of Sadat and Faisal and said that they were both very intelligent men who comprehended geopolitics very well. But when the topic of Israel/Jews came up they would become unhinged, conspiratorial, and completely irrational.
It feels the same with most people online who discuss Israel or Jews so it's nice to see someone who is actually capable of speaking about us in an objective way. I cannot begin express how much I appreciate it.
Very good description of the situation which continues until today in all fronts.
Nice video! Just subscribed and I hope you'll keep up the good work sir
These videos are so pro-Israel, it’s ridiculous. “Lebanon failed to naturalize the Palestinian refugees.” Ok what country naturalizes all the refugees that it accepts. Doesn’t mention how those Palestinians became refugees in the first place. In another video he shows the Golan Heights as being part of Israel. If you want an unbiased account, watch other videos.
You lost like 7 wars - deal with it. look at world history - nations are built from war. so why demonize israel as if THE ENTIRE WORLD didnt do the same throught history? you are JUST as biased. hypocrite.
Small correction. The Cairo agreement was signed by general Bustani and NOT the president who didn’t even know the details of the agreement.
Great research. This is great honest content.
Long live Lebanon 🇱🇧 🇱🇧 💙 ❤
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Well so far so good ...great job
i'll tell you 2 tales of Lebanese history you probably never heard of
1- during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982, and after the long siege of Beirut and the withdrawal of PLO, the IDF suddenly forced their way into the city and occupied it ........they thought it was safe, but then the people of Beirut, without any organization , killed dozens of soldiers and officers in small personal acts of resistance........2 days later, IDF patrols with loudspeakers began roaming the city, calling out : people of Beirut, we are withdrawing in the morning...please stop shooting !!
it might not sound much, but personally it was the proudest moment of my life
2- in the aftermath of the invasion, the US backed Lebanese president, who was tasked with signing a separate peace treaty with Israel, was facing a revolution.....so the US deployed the 6th fleet on Lebanese shores , and landed marines to support the traitor president and his army against the peoples will.....fast forward a few days, and you have 2 bomb trucks crashing the marines base , killing 241 Americans and 50 French marines....the US withdraws immediately , tail between legs, leaving their traitor allies to their destiny...and they never return
now that's casual history worth mentioning!
As for no.1: it's only your developed Arab imagination. Israel didn't enter Beirut, only few streets in West Beirut. They bombed Beirut in order to kick out the P.L.O. from Beirut. After few days an International force arrived and evacuate them from Lebanon. 11,000 of them.
Almost no killed Israeli soldiers, not Officers and no brave Lebanese organizations and loud speakers. How do I know all of this? Guess....
As for no. 2: I do not know, I wasn't there at that time.
@@simko8665 i was there mate ....had a fucking merkava parked under my balcony
they even searched my home for "terrorists" when a young man (a hero) gunned down and officer and 3 soldiers on my street
get your history right
@@tamerlane3931 Did I say that there were no Israeli casualties?
@@simko8665 th-cam.com/video/BCu_d4TU_KU/w-d-xo.html
then what do you call this ? wimpi operation was the most famous one because it took place in Hamra street, where IDF officers thought they could just have a coffee 😂
there were many more ...
u can live in denial as much as you like , but it's all documented
besides i don't understand what's the big deal ......oh maybe the invincible idf soldiers are immortal!
you should have heard them squeal like pigs in 2006
bachir gemayel wasnt a traitor
23:25 You put the same excerpt twice.
This video has a very heavy positive bias towards Israel. Don’t try to downplay what Israel has done. They’ve been a menace in the region as much as any other country in the region.
It's pretty hard to not sound biased towards Israel when describing a war that was started by Palestinians trying to conquer their Arab neighbors and expel religious minorities while using an entire country as a human shield. While also focusing on how Syria (one of the 2 countries still fighting Israel at this point) took advantage of this situation to also try and conquer one of their Arab neighbors
How are historical facts biased exactly? Care to elaborate?
@@slickrick2420 you obviously know nothing about history based on what you just said. History itself is always biased.
@@darksydesamy So what's the issue then? You're creating a problem out of thin air
@@slickrick2420 nope. You are. I just made a comment stating something about the video. That’s all.
What happened the first time you uploaded the video?
Accidentally reuploaded the first episode.
Great video👍
this video is very biased,you fail to mention the massacre at Katarina but you don't hesitate to talk about the one in Darmour which was a response to it.You draw Sharon as some kind of Saint even though the israelis allowed the massacre of multiple palestinans refugee camps by the christians.
Yaser Arafat died an untried blood-sucking war criminal. Palestinian "Refugees" had no right under internation law to carry weapons on the territory of another country (blame the Lebanese government for signing the Cairo agreement for that). The Palestinians asked for war with Israel and got what they asked for.
He likely died of aids
Well done! Well said! 👍🏻
I believe Lebanese, Syrians, Palestinians, Jordanians, and Iraqis are one people, and we will be united one day. We cannot isolate and divide ourselves anymore, all races and religions must come together. Blessings to my family in the Fertile Crescent, from a Lebanese-American.
Lebanese alone can hardly be considered one people
To say that a Christian from Lebanon and a sunni from baghdad are the same is ignorent at best ! Or is it that you discount minorities in this "people" of yours ?
@@salemhajj3112 You think race and religion are the only things that matter in a people. How shallow your thoughts are, I hope you can bettef educate yourself on the people of the Fertile Crescent. Start by learning about the land itself, because that is from which all other aspects of culture stem.
@@salemhajj3112 G’day from a Lebanese born Australian. Ignore the slaughtering caliphate shit
Only thing connecting those groups is the Arabic language, it's a weak link.
If u go to the nacional socialist party of those same countries that's exactly what they propose- this means it's a proposition of the nazis. Keep that in mind.
The quotes read by Mr.Beat are so painful. Why did he talk so loudly and strange?
0:42 ain't funny no more when people are shooting back. Boy do i recognize this pattern
'Force the Israelis to inflict civilian casualties' ignores the fact that they had the choice as to how to respond and they chose not to do so with precision. They weren't the only country to suffer terror attacks in the seventies but their response was on a different scale. Claiming that they had no choice is disingenuous.
“Chose not to do so with precision “ How do you strike with precision when you enemies purposefully hide themselves amongst civilians areas.
It is a natural consequence that bystanders will be injured/killed.
This is different from the PLO deliberately firing into civilian territories
@@sjappiyah4071 Hostage situations usually don't result in the use of artillery or airstrikes. A few European countries were dealing with terror attacks during this period, none reacted with near the same civilian casualty count. In both cases the PLO and IDF fired into civilian areas, it's not impossible to view both as wrong to do so.
Don't let the lebanese tankies and hezbollah fanboys see this
23:26 Wait, did you just put the same quote twice in a row?
Confirmed. This is propaganda, but at least it is done so lazily that it shouldn't fool anyone.
At 1:00, while this is probably a sound analysis of the PLO guerilla strategy, it completely ignores the fact that Israel had no absolute need to attack at all, and could have simply ended the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and granted the right to return to their homes as part of a negotiation to end the conflict entirely. Had the PLO assembled all of their troops into a conventional military base it would have been leveled immediately by Israeli forces. The fact that the PLO used their only viable military strategy should surprise no-one. Conventional warfare is a luxury of super-powers. The idea that violence was unavoidable or that Israel was somehow forced to attack into civilian areas is just careless and ignores the political agency of the factions involved. Both had options of non-violence and diplomacy and chose not to. The reasoning behind those political decisions would make a much better and more interesting history video instead of just repeating pretext. At 8:00, use of "the Christians" and "the Muslims" are poor generalizations in this context. Throughout the video, conflating political factions with religious groups is again just repeating their own propaganda which is not helpful for meaningful progress or education. At 15:00, you do a good job of separating Syrian pretext from actual goals. More of this would be responsible when discussing other factions' actions.
Well said brother. Well said.
@@prestonjones1653 a failure in diplomacy of the Palestinian leadership does not give the government of Israel a license to commit ethnic cleansing.
@@prestonjones1653 a better analogy would be England and their ethnic cleansing and exploitation of Ireland
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> The idea that violence was unavoidable or that Israel was somehow forced to attack into civilian areas is just careless and ignores the political agency of the factions involved
1. What political agency? Not responding to the raids would have been totally politically impossible. A pretty fundamental part of the social contract of Israel (and every other country) is that the state will not just turn the other cheek to the brutal murder of hundreds of its citizens.
2. Of course Israel was forced to attack into civilian areas, that was the whole point of the strategy!
I see a world where France never insisted on giving the maronites that farmland, and they just made their money in peace and imported their food from the Arabs, who had more farmland and time to happy work it to make a surplus
I am maronite i am lebanese and i assure you they would've annexed this area as soon as it gained independence.
And there was some maronite villages in the south and bekaa and north. Like damour chadra jezzine....
Maronites hold their heritage and history. They're the last stronghold and trace of Christianity in the middle east.
We Maronites will never agree to be a minority in our own country Lebanon will always exist
This guy is pro Isreal, and tailors narrative to that.
According to professor Norman Finkelstein you're wrong.
He is not a historian, so his claims hold no factual basis.
For more about the subject of Lebanon also in context with Israel, watch "Lebanon: Borders of blood". Great documentary with alot of interviews.
I did not like how the map rotated at 24:14. Felt disorienting and unnecessary considering not much was shown in detailed. Nevertheless, very good video.
Why are you using isralei sources to explain what happened between lebanon and syria. Seems a bit biased
Are you Lebanese?
Can u tell me what did the Syrians and Palestians did to Lebanon?
Were they good or bad ?
My sources are listed in the description
So to clarify, the Palestinians were complaining that Israel occupied their homeland, so their response was to try and occupy a varying chunk of Lebanon and try to turn that into a homeland?
They tried to take control, just like they tried at Jordan where they also started a war
@@aiaivivi8286 Have they tried this with Egypt yet? I know the late 2000's early 2010's Egypt lost patience with them after Hamas dug a fuck ton of tunnels and blew up a wall segment while also supporting Sinai militants and the muslim brotherhood, especially after the Arab spring coup. To the point that Egypt has/had locked down the border with Gaza but did they ever try to turn Egypt into Palestine 2.0? xD
@@thirstyserpent1079 yea Egypt doesn’t have patience for them… few years ago Egypt found another hamas tanner from Gaza and PUMPED GAS into it
They single handedly fucked up the middle east yet they cry as if they're the victims
more of these on the lebanese civil war pls
Excellently produced documentary
Your repeated use of the term "Islamist" here is completely inappropriate. There were no true Lebanese Islamists at this time. By Islamists, you seem to mean "Muslim," which is a very different thing. You also conflate "Christian" with "Maronite." These were not at all the same thing. The Maronites were by far the biggest Christian group, and they were very close to the Greek Catholics. Many Orthodox Christians, by contrast, were neutral, or even sided with LNM. The Orthodox SSNP had a militia, which I believe was allied with the LNM. All of that said, you do a very good job on the whole of tracing this bewildering array of groups. Here's what a Middle East Studies researcher from the US once told me regarding what Middle East Studies people in the the US think about Lebanon: "No one understands Lebanon."
21:27 who are 'they' in this case?
Not sure that using Robert Fisk as a reference does anything for your credibility.
Fisk is not a neutral, and his commentary has been both discredited and ridiculed .
Fisk is political, only interested in his own narrative and not in relating history .
@user-wj6dt5bq3w by his own nauseating commentary .
why iskanderun and golan are not part of syria in your maps?
Only one side of a story had been told here.
24:10 WTF is this protocol?
Lol the first 2 minutes. At least try and pretend to be neutral, sounding like the Israeli government 😂
You cannot objectively describe a war that was caused by Palestinians conquering neighboring Arab states to use as country-wide human shields after being evicted from another Arab state for trying to conquer it without sounding pro-Israel lmao
How wasn't he neutral? Because he wasn't biased and pushed the Palestinian narrative?
Which side would you say actually killed more people during the war? The wikipedia article says over 100,000 people were killed, but doesn't assign responsibility.
War, especially the Lebanese War, isn’t so tidy. The carnage was and still is awful and widespread.
You lost me from the beginning when you were not objective by making the israelis the good guys and the palestinians as the bad guys even though i blame heavily the palestinians for causing the lebanese civil war. Israel is an artificial country that existed by force . They are not the victims but the aggressors regardless of what approach the PLO used against them.
cope يا هتلة
Asa Lebanese
We suffered from Palestinians Syrians and Israeli
And I dont give an F about any of them even if they burn in hell
@@28Justchecking exactly we suffered greatly from all of them and all of them conspired against us. My issue with this excellent video is only the start where it depicted the palestinians as arab terrorists and israelis as victims while palestinians would have never came to lebanon and the syrians would not have invaded had the israeli state never existed by force and massacres in the first place.
@@michelazzam173 This just in; When you're murdering civilians and creating chaos for political motives, you're a terrorist no matter how much you tell yourself you're the good guy lol
The PLO entered Lebanon after Jordan kicked them out in 1970, an event called: Black September. The PLO used the Palestinian Arab refugee population and camps as bases for its attacks againt Israeli territory and civilians.
9:53 more than half of Saad Haddad army were shiaa
Nope
He was a Christian himself and his army was predominantly Christian
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@Danny Al syria was an ottoman province when lebanon was ottonomous
What why Syria
I agree with iran . But the rest i dont hate as a lebanese . Israel neurtal. Syria and palestine i like
@Danny Al bro stop with that "lebanon was historically syrian" bs! Biggest syrian propaganda joke ever! How come you don't know about the truth??? FIRST OF ALL, they both gained independence in the same day (say no more), SECOND OF ALL, there weren't even borders back then inorder for "syria" to exist... have common sense already!!! We were all 1 LAND, the whole region.. so i'm talkin modern day Jordan, palestine, Lebanon and syria were all called SHAM, (levantine) and WITHIN sham, there were different kingdom-like areas and modern day Lebanon's cities were very important. THREE which is the most IMPORTANT one & makes the most sense + has evidence, PHONECIAN/CAANANITE LEBANON. manyyyyyy studies INCLUDING recent ones show that the lebanese people share genetics with phonecians (ancient greeks).. Phonecians (modern day) lebanese people lived there for years and now we own it. Syrians need to get over it ffs! Its a + for us REGARDLESS and history says it all
@@Lekz0 specify what you mean i'm interested.
Part 2 pls
17:18. The Damour Massacre by leftists was a response to Karantina Massacre by the right.
I love the fact that you aren't a Jew yet see the truth of this conflict so easily
So Syria played the Palestinians to get troops into Lebanon? I'm so confused with how many factions popped up
Seems like nothing has changed
can you do a video on the Israeli special operation thunder ball
that mark to every Israel enemy's mind no one is safe
The PLO is not a terrorist organisation
You mention massacres committed by the PLO but don't mention what happened to illicit the reaction. Sabra, Shatila, karantina, depravation, dehumanization, etc. Extreme bias for a imperialistic state but then again you guys are raised in a imperialist country -so not really surprising.
Or maybe just imagine this, what if the PLO never decided to invade Lebanon after failing to invade Jordan, that would've solved alot of issues and prevented Lebanon turning into the disaster it is to say
@@Ataturkinator Lebanon is a disaster because of french colonialism don't try to twist it. Also what do you suggest palestinian people do?-not organize and accept death/occupation. That's the problem with western people-you don't apply the same standards to yourself.
@@ouardi9900 Funny because Lebanon was a very functioning and prosperous state for 30+ years after French colonialism ended. How is invading Lebanon and Jordan with the express purpose of overthrowing their governments to force the entire country's population to act as a shield so they can fire rockets at civilians without repercussion "organizing and not accepting death". Literally all it did was further prove to both Israel AND all of their Arab neighbors to under no circumstance allow them to organize
@@ouardi9900 it wasn't even colonization and it was wanted by most Lebanese do some research
@@that_lebanese4747 Your research--> french propaganda. Also by most you only mean by most Maronites.
Syria never invaded Lebanon. The Lebanese President requested that Syria's army enter the country to help the loyal remnant of the Leb army and police to stop the civil war. This goal had been largely accomplished by 1978, when Israel invaded to reinvigorate the conflict and to save its proxy army, the South Lebanon Army.
Syria did invade cry about it
@@donnyjoe123 No they were invited by the Christians to save their asses .
@@عزالدينالجولاني-ذ2ق and then never left... until the pressure was too high in 2005
@@jicks224 Yes, but at least they saved the crusaders
@@عزالدينالجولاني-ذ2ق Cope, Palestinians like As-Saiqa were pro Baath, also ironic that you call us Crusaders when you have jihadists in your pfp
When did the Syrian's eventually pull out?
2005
don't call them terrorists, they are defending their home
Good lord, what a fucking mess !!! A dizzying amount of information. Like my head hurts now..!!
33:54// one exception: if u had used the word "things" in a video with context. then perhaps maybe, just maybe, there might be a few 'things' (when u mentioned the word 'things') as u referred to them as 'things', that may not have been really a 'thing' at all. // i do not recall if or when u may have used the word 'things'. However, if u have or ever plan to (use 'things' as some sort of adjective toward describing an event or a decision made by some person(s)), just be aware of this.
myop a lot of people use the word 'thing'. they say, "the THING is..' and fill in the end of that Match Game sentence
The Thing is a movie, made thrice/three times, by 3 different directors over a span of many decades. // but some folks use the same word with a capital to refer to events and deciding factors within people's heads (upon the when time a decision was made). the thing is the guy was a heavy smoker and when hitler made Chamberlain wait and wait and wait to have a smoke the brit fell to the whims of addiction. / The THING is a movie is my fav retort
I don't remember walking into English class...
Syria interfered after the Lebanese government asked them to enter to protect Lebanese Maronite. The first thing syria did is attack Palestinians and The Lebanese National Movement and killed their leader Kamal jounblat then the Lebanese Maronite flipped sides after Israel entered. So now the others flipped sides too.
common W Maronites
Damn that was a cluster f#*k.
Surprisingly there are sections of Tripoli that were untouched.
Seeing the buildings in some streets from possibly the 60s untouched. Unbelievable.
Like frozen in time. No bullet holes or shelling nothing & used for residential & retail.
As if constructed recently but with a retro look.
Everyone with à low general culture in history know that was because of French.
Regardless of the content. Syria did not "invade"
This doesn’t end to well for the Christians.
How
Finally something without Jewish Israeli hatred
I was there.... pro Israel report...shame
The religion of peace.....
The bias against Palestinian resistance in this video is actually disgusting
Syria did not invade, but the lebanese government asked the syrians to intervine.
Yes because the Christians were to weak to defend themselves and they were about to lose the war
Lol also syria funded many militia while supporting Lebanese force at the end. Syria also turn against Lebanese government 😂
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Well said... Arab politics until date to do with politics
video is so extremely biased againt the plo. Im maronite christian and can tell you this first hand.
Do you think PLO's actions against the Maronite Christians can be justified somehow?
As well it should be. Why would you support t3rr0r1sm?
@@slickrick2420 I ask you the same question but in the opposite way
the plo was not the good guy
cause we’re taking back what’s ours 💪🏼🇸🇾
"Cause we're taking back what's ours"
😂😂😂😂👍 ok bro 😂😂😂😂
@@xx_olivie_xx9316 lebanon was actually Syrian land before 1943
I agree.
@@suleyman8696 what year exactly? because what i can see is the foreign powers that invaded lebanon and syria like the ottomans for example put lebanon as the syrian province other and if we wanna go back to the antiquity empires were putting lebanon under syrian administration even though lebanon was phoenicia and mount lebanon who was like semi independent from the ottomans