Vocal Analysis: Faouzia
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
- I originally posted this onto my TikTok but I thought I’d post it here to give y’all a lil something cuz the revised 4th gen ranking is taking a lot longer than expected 😭
Some songs from from vocal queen Faouzia I’d recommend are Hero, Anybody Else, Born Without A Heart - Stripped, and How It All Works Out!
#faouzia #vocals #vocalpedagogy #vocalanalysis #vocalshowcase
Faouzia is so underrated! her lighting fast runs are amazing!
I'm not sure why people keep trying to turn mezzos into sopranos but Faouzia is a mezzo, a coluratura mezzo-soprano to be exact, same as Beyoncé and JoJo
i’m not even gonna argue cuz u look so stupid saying this 😹
furthermore, faouzia carries more tone and projection down to D3 than even the most skilled sopranos (think mariah and Celine). This is because this is where her voice naturally sits. Even more, a skilled soprano of faouzia’s level would not need to mix like she does above E5. Even less skilled sopranos like Ariana and Demi easily bring more tone and ease beyond this range.
@@leedosbf No There Right, You're Wrong, She Is A Mezzo Soprano. Factually
@@kimsuga3132 She's not. A lower, heavier and darker soprano but a soprano nevertheless.
@@TalvanePorfirio You know what, i'm done; everyone keeps trying making everyone a soprano, i guess 90% of Woman are soprano, like it is very sickening, she is a mezzo-soprano and if she isn't we need new terms.
oh my god it keeps its voice echo even G#5
People keep saying but she really gives off Soprano vibes. Proof: her lows are in the normal area for a soprano and she's kinda weak on the Ev3 where mezzos shine. Her C#5 isn't chesty like mezzos. Hers is light and beautiful. Her high notes like Eb5 and F5 are too light and bright and easy for her where Mezzos start pushing. Her head voice quaility is bright and nice. Mezzos have more of a thicker sound darker. I hope u all see my point.
can you do a mega ranking of 4th gen male
Hi! My friends have a supported ranges. Could you tell me their tiers?
Friend 1:
G3/G#3-B4/C5(C#5)
Friend 2:
A3-Bb4
Friend 3:
Bb3-A4
Friend 4:
Bb3/B3-G4/G#4
Friend 5:
N/A (B3-G4 at her best)
Friend 6:
F3/F#3-Eb5/E5-C6
Friend 7:
G3-C#5/D5-F5/F#5
Friend 8:
Bb3-G4
And me:
A3/Bb3-D5/Eb5-C6
You can’t assign a tier just based off supported range, you need to actually hear the singing in order to determine the quality of support and general development. Also, some of those are very developed supported so unless a lot of you are classically trained, I highly doubt those are your actual supported ranges.
We are the best
How do I think
Friend 1: C (Average)
Friend 2 (aka me) : D+ (High W-A)
Friend 3: D-
Friend 4: E+(high weak) (she has been improving recently you remember how a few months ago she was E- low weak
Friend 5: F+(Underdeveloped) (it's okay she will improve)
Friend 6: B+/A- (p to p-g) (our vocal queen)
Friend 7: C+/B- (a-aa to above average) (she's so good)
Friend 8: E (she should develop her mix more)
And you: B/B+ (of course you're good at singing)
Why is she not considered an alto? Like, what technically makes her a soprano cause I never heard no soprano go that low.
well first of all, alto isn’t a voice type, it’s a choir role, so I’m gonna assume you mean contralto. there are many factors like passagi, weight, timbre, and tessitura. her passagi are the usual passagi for a heavier soprano like her, she doesn’t start mixing until around D5 which is expected. If she were a true contralto or even mezzo, she would be mixing much earlier and would sound like she’s struggling/putting more effort earlier. Now as for her weight, she simply doesn’t have that contralto type weight. Contraltos are known for sounding androgynous, look at Diana Ankudinova, an actual contralto who is said to sound like a man. She can’t be a mezzo either cuz her voice sounds so light and has so much freedom that she can support a F5 like it’s nothing. No contralto or Mezzo could be able to sound that light up there outside of head voice. Also her tessitura is lower than most sopranos yes. I doubt Ariana would sound as good as Faouzia down to Eb3 but just bcuz she can go low doesn’t mean she’s suddenly a contralto or mezzo. Vivian Reed and Lisa Fischer both have consistency down to C3 and even A2 at best yet they’re Sopranos. I hope that helps!
@@leedosbf WOW. I am blown away. Lol. That does help. Thank you for educating me, I was clearly in the wrong here. I have a question, if she was in a choir would she be placed in the alto group or soprano group? Its tricky because her range is SO wide.
@@rhyahrobinson4616 she rlly could fit into both. Choirs don’t rlly focus on voice types and more so range so she def could be placed into either a higher or lower role and slay both
@@leedosbfDiana is not a contralto too. She is a mezzo-soprano who forced her voice with hoarseness & tense lowered larynx position. She is like Xtina who is a soprano try to sing like a mezzo-soprano
@@jinji4609 yea my friend informed me. she just forces her larynx down and makes her tongue sit in an unnatural position.
Hi, may I ask what vocal tier is Ava Max? (Maybe Sabrina Carpenter)
Ava Max | Average to Above Average (C+) | F#3~B4/C5
Sabrina Carpenter | Average (C) | F#3~B4
@@leedosbf Thank you so much for the answer ❤️
One question, I've been looking for an mtg vocal ranking but I haven't found one.
Do you know what tier is Lee Youngchae?
@@janoslink8503 no I’m sorry. I’ve only seen a few performances from MTG and only know the debut line up. Any other trainees I have no idea abt 😭
@@leedosbf Oh it's okay! Btw, how long it takes to determine someone's level, or do you use something program, or anything?
Btw here's a video of her vocal moments
th-cam.com/video/I4sDmcmYOOI/w-d-xo.html
@@janoslink8503 I can generally make a good estimate off one lengthy video, just by taking into account how good the quality of their support (or lack thereof) is. But I usually need quite a bit of materials from several different performances just to be sure. Not everyone is gonna be at their best in every single performance.
Edit: forgot to add, the only program I use is a tuner just to double check notes cuz I unfortunately don’t have perfect pitch. But otherwise, I’ve trained my ears enough to determine support, resonance, strain, etc.
Hi can you tell dreamcatcher memebers vocal tier and omy girls vocal tier too please
Dreamcatcher:
Yoohyeon: Low Average (C-)
SuA: Weak (E+)
The Rest: Non Vocalist (F)
Oh My Girl:
Seunghee: Average to Above Average (C+)
Hyojung: Average (C)
YooA: Low Weak to Average (D-)
The Rest: Non Vocalist (F)
@@leedosbf but yeoun and sootzubæ said yoohyeon is average
Sua,siyeon are high weak to average
Jiu is mid weak to average
Handong is weak vocalist/ low weak to average
Gahyeon is low weak
@@leedosbf why everyone tell different tier😭😭
She can actually go down to a c#3 as seen in minefields and fur elise.
*Bb2-G#5-A6
When has she hit a Bb2? /gen
@@leedosbf th-cam.com/video/LqBEgdp-iAI/w-d-xo.html
She also has a B2 in Minefields but the vid was deleted
Yeseo vocal evolution:
th-cam.com/users/shortsLKajv9vwK3Y?feature=share3
I feel like yeseo has improved a lot as a singer, she couldn't sing at all when she debuted in kep1er.
She recently posted a vocal cover:
Yeseo whatever you do covery (ori: J-cera)
th-cam.com/video/DeV54ddWTq0/w-d-xo.html
Please can you give me your opinion on it?
Which tier do you think she is?
I still dont hear any support but she’s def improved her stability. She’s a lot more confident and less shaky. She’ll def go up in the ranking but I don’t think it’ll be anything substantial
@@leedosbf thanks
Isn't she a mezzo?
Nope just a Soprano with crazyyyy lows
She said it herself on a live that she comfortable in her mid range. And her lower range, in example her D3 you can notice that she has rich and more full tone if compare than sopranos in their lower range.
@@ninefourteen2920 okay? Not all voice types are gonna have the same amount of comfort in the exact same place as others of their same voice type. Faouzia is a darker soprano than let’s say, Ariana Grande, but she still isn’t a mezzo due to 1.) her not having the natural weight of a mezzo and 2.) she would not be able to mix that high that easily if she was a mezzo. She has a mixed A5 I discovered after making this vid and that just solidifies that she’s a Soprano
Regardless of the subtype, a Soprano will always have comfort in the upper middle and upper regions of their voice plus their voices will bloom there.
The fact that she has comfort in her lower mids and lows even though she is quite young and has not been formally trained, says a lot. Compare her to countless sopranos in mainstream music at that age and you'll realize she's more of a mezzo than a Soprano but more on the higher end.
That plus her exceptional energy is indicative of her immense potential to be a Coloratura Mezzo-Soprano (which will be even more evident with training and over time).
That don't mean anything Mariah Carey said she was an alto💀. She's a Soprano.
Hello! Can you tell me Weki Meki vocal tiers?
Suyeon: Average (C)
Yoojung: Weak (E+)
Doyeon: Underdeveloped (E)
Elly: Underdeveloped (E-)
The rest: Non-Vocalist
@@leedosbf thanks. What abt their supported ranges?
@@Jibaewon I only know Yoojung’s which is Bb3/B3~G#4/A4. The others I unfortunately don’t know 😭
@@leedosbf thanks
She is P-G I think.
I’ve talked with some of my vocal pedagogy friends and we’ve come to the conclusion that she can indeed be pushed to the lower end of P-G. However, for now I’m choosing to keep her in the upper part of Proficient for now. Maybe once Plastic Therapy comes out we’ll get more materials to finally push her to P-G
@@leedosbf she has released the masterpiece
@@Krsillusions not only Plastic Therapy, but also Don’t Call Me! Im so excited so see what live materials she’ll bless us with!
@@leedosbf ikr! I can't wait.
You have a tik tok? Cause I saw this vid too on tik tok
@@Krsillusions yes, my TikTok is @leedoshusband. I usually post my vids there before I post them on TH-cam
shes definitely mezzo
Faouzia's belts are nowhere near that good. Girl is pushing hard from C5 and up. The chest engagement in her belts is not a thing, at least not enough to compensate the pushing. She is an extremely overrated belter
Why u speaks nonsense
@allykelly says the one who thinks Faouzia's pushy, constricted, and tense Eb5s are ✨️free✨️
@@NickiandOlivia freedom is hella overused and misused you can't physically escape tension when singing. You basically just throw pushy, constricted without even acknowledging the depth of it
@allykelly so why did you use this term in your video? Lol. And, trust me, I'm well aware that freedom is extremely overrated in this vocal community. Proper tension is supposed to be present. Trying to sing with an overly relaxed approach will cause you to develop a floppy coordination. Not to mention that anyone who's singing in M1 above E5-ish will be tense, even high ass sopranos with light coordinated belts like Sohyang or Haeri.
Now, in Faouzia's case, the lack of "freedom" is a problem. You know why? Because she's NOT a heavy belter at all. She sounds aspirated and light in comparison to singers who have actual developed chest coordination, so the tension present is completely unnecessary and SHOULDN'T be that present. Not to mention that it's usually there even as low as C5, where advanced vocalists are able to reduce it or at least compensate it with proper TA coordination (Moontak, Yeonji, Ailee Vivian, Whitney, Celine, etc)
"You basically just throw pushy, constricted without even acknowledging the depth of it," so you really think Faouzia isn't pushy or constricted? You're brave enough to call her a great belter when she relies on air pressure instead of properly engaging her muscles. Pushing causes constriction and vice-versa. Therefore, we have Ailee, who, despite having strong TA development, has a lot of adjustment problems, aka improper curbing above C#5, which leads to both pushing AND constriction. I don't think you acknowledge how singing works tbh
@@NickiandOlivia well u know my videos are like 1 year ago. What term are u talking about
How do u define coordination
Pls provide credible sources that mentions and talks about it
Why brings Ailee when she has more severe technicall issue compared to faouzia. Faouzia has retained her vocal health while Ailee even has valsava and throatiness on fourth octave her chest development is far from being called good development when if those issues are still there
You'r the one who brought the claim faouzia push from C5 and above so you're basically downgrading her as a vocalist. Are those pushed C5-C#5s for ex are in the room with us?
Why is being not heavy an issue? It's not like faouzia can't produce clear M1 belts she has at least do nice M1 belts
I never claim faouzia is an excellent belter it's just that she's not as bad as u make it out to be
"I don't think you acknowledge how singing work tbh"
Let's see about that
Is she better than tori kelly?
Imo yes but just barely. Both are tied in lows and agility (Tori slightly better agility tho), but Faouzia takes the edge for belts and hv meanwhile Tori has better mix. Both are some of my fav vocalists, they’re both amazing!
I'm a Tori Kelly big fan but to be honest faouzia has a very slight edge (they're on the same level to be said) faouzia has more solid lows, far more developed head voice. Tori is the better belter she has more open sound in general than faouzia although both aren't particularly good above D5 mostly. And both agilites are superB Tori edges her with her feats
To me, no. Tori has the sweeter better voice. Better technique, and agility. No hate tho to Fa. She's really good.
@Mein-fe4js well I disagree about faouzia belts lacks control u just bring out her worst moments she has a lot nicely sustained C#5s like in her performances in Chinese performances.
Tori is my bias she has great mids but saying she has best mids in her gen which is millennials is so wrong there are singers in her peers even younger have more developed belting like Morissette, Katrina velarde, Lyka, Christina perrie,
Etc
Hv Tori doesn't compare she sounds really airy and thin faouzia can produce much fuller and freer sound even tho her hv isn't particularly developed but still good in current pop standard
Talking about dynamic? Crescendo, diminuendo, pianissimo, piano, etc? Both doesn't Excel this field.
@Mein-fe4js faouzia lose to Ari and demi can u pls explain