You did a nice job on that cutter! And thank you for explaining how that clutch goes together, I just rebuilt the exact same one on mine, unfortunately I didn’t have much information to go on, now I’ll take mine apart and loosen the castle nut, I’ve definitely got it too tight, ha ha! Thanks so much
@@marktolman6037 if you ever get into working on the underside with blades and such, I’d be very interested in seeing how that part is supposed to work, I’ve severely modified mine to trim snowmobile trails, so I’m kinda shooting in the dark, ha ha
We had a 7’ version of that JD cutter on our farm. Loved it. Well built & very heavy! Also ran the Ford 8600, 9600 & 9700 tractors. Loved them too! Good on fuel. Still have the 8600 & 9600 tractors on the farm today!
What a nice setup! What tractor did you use the 7' cutter on? I've been wanting a 7' or a small batwing, but I'm not sure the 5000 is enough tractor...
For the dipstick maybe tack a strip of metal to the proper sized pipe plug (if its NTP) or a bolt. If you're feeling fancy you could cut off an old metal dipstick...
nicely done ..personaly i wouldnt have fooled with the slip clutch most of the time time there more trouble than there worth...i still use the old sheer bolt system on mine .this has inspired me refurbish my bushog..love you videos and that old ford 5000..i run a ford 3000 from 1974 and the longer the video the better .
You sir are an excellent mechanic but also are an excellent refurbish specialist, I noticed the clips about going to Dad's shop to use his 20 to press, your dad taught you well in shop principles that no doubt gave you inspiration to continue in wrenching. Job well done for you and your Dad I know that he is proud of you. from a 70 yr old mechanic dad.
Great rebulid man. I rebulid and basically make whole new decks for the 14ft JD’s for our farm to sell. I would give one tip that will save you a lot of money. A lot of them high dollar bearings and seals from JD you can buy cheaper from napa and are better quality. And for the small models like this they might not be crazy expensive. But for the 14ft model there over 100 dollars while napa is like 20. Glad to see someone else do this kinda thing. Great job man.
You did a very good job that ford 5000 can more than handle it a 7ft cutter is more what it could do but you use what you got like you attention to details on everything you do was a nice job
I bet the cost of those parts has doubled in three years! I maintain a 6 year old 825i Gator with Delux cab, a x350 mower, my 1951 JD A, all prices have doubled+ in the last 4 years 😲😲😲😲😲
As far as the dipstick is concerned, get a brass plug and braise a brass rod into it. Then notch the end for the level indicator marks. Works the same and lasts much longer than any plastic 1 will.
Great video! Been using for it this 709 repair of my own. Where did you order the bronze shim before the castle nut and codder pin? Also what size? Just curious
Great video, I just got a 709 and have to do a lot of the same things. 1 question is what is the issue of the operators manual that you have? The serial number tag is missing from my 709 but it has the same clutch as yours.
I think you need to bring in the driveshaft inside and make a plastic bag to seal it from the elements also I put anti seize on those grease. Fitting s
As I was getting blades they show those cutter also running 4 blades like a chopper for corn stalks I guess I know it doesn't slack up on 3in pines,cuts and chops up
@@marktolman6037 yes you did mark, unfortunately I had to cut the video short as I had a works call, I never saw the end until now, i made a comment when I left for work, the Bush cutter looks great now, 👍 enjoy
@@martingale7760 No worries! Thanks, it's been a good mower so far! I have already mowed for a season since publishing the video. Check out my mowing video... th-cam.com/video/AOU2rAc1Ikg/w-d-xo.html
@@marktolman6037 I love watching old machines working, back in the day ( 1972) when I was 17 years old and just left education I trained as an agricultural engineer, then worked on a 2000 acre organic farm, with horses, stears, sheep, for 14years, ( Ford plus New Holland ) check out a book called Rushall The story of an Organic Farm, By Barry Wookey my Boss , My love of framing and old machines working.
@@martingale7760 that sounds like a really cool experience to be able to live through. Agriculture is always interesting to learn about. Plus all the machines you get to be around.
My dad had a 1973 Ford 3500 and a 5’ shredder. Now I know why he was absolutely religious about greasing everything and checking the gearbox fluid on that shredder.
I am looking to buy a used bush hog and want to avoid paying super high prices for parts like you had to. Do you have any recommendations as to what types of bush hogs are cheap to service and get parts for? thanks for any help
Land Pride and Woods are a good brand to go with. I have a Land Pride bush hog and a Woods finish mower. Parts are reasonably priced and available, as long as you don't have antique models that are outdated.
@narcissistinjurygiver2932 Absolutely. A lot of people don't use slip clutches, but I prefer to have one. If you are handy, any brush cutter will work. I have used my John Deere for years, and it's extremely heavy duty. At least the series I have, can't speak for newer ones.
I agree. It doesnt get too beat up with me using it, I'm pretty easy on it for the most part. Gets stored inside. It still looks great after 2 mowing seasons.
Vinegar and water is a good household solution to remove light surface rust, but not so much for severe rust, galling and corrosion. There are certain acid baths and electric processes used to remove heavy penetrating rust, but I found it's easier and quicker to use heat and force. Heat actually allows the external metal to expand, allowing for separation. I have freed many a stuck part that way, like rusted tow hitches in receivers, nuts and bolts, leaf springs shackle bolts, tools, etc.
@@marktolman6037 It depends on the concentration of acidic acid in vinegar and the temperature of the bath, I also use Torches. But you have to be careful with universal joint bearings.
@@carrollsanders9376 U joints are quite resilient, I've heated dozens of joints in driveshaft, steering columns, pto shafts, CV shafts, etc. Just remove the grease fitting to allow grease to not pressurize. Sometimes that's the only realistic option to persuade stubborn pats to seperate.
@@marktolman6037 I have bigger torches airco pro, than you, I have heated Joints to the point that the fractured the need bearings in the joints, I have always found it's often best to use the more gentile methods. The greese fiting doesn't matter when the needle bearings are ruined by the heat. One way to do it and save the needle bearing is to place the Ujoint in water when heating the shaft.
@@carrollsanders9376 Nice. It could be you are using too much heat than necessary. I've never fractured a needle bearing...and can reuse a joint after being heated...but usually the only time I'm heating a u joint to the point of fracturing, I'm replacing anyways...
I did pay for them, that's how I got them... I figured people would like to see the cost of rebuilding something like this. Not everyone has tons of money to spend.
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Thoroughly enjoyed this video .. stumbled across it searching Bush hog rebuilds.. THANKS
Glad you liked it. Thanks
You did a nice job on that cutter! And thank you for explaining how that clutch goes together, I just rebuilt the exact same one on mine, unfortunately I didn’t have much information to go on, now I’ll take mine apart and loosen the castle nut, I’ve definitely got it too tight, ha ha! Thanks so much
Thanks, and I'm glad it helped.
@@marktolman6037 if you ever get into working on the underside with blades and such, I’d be very interested in seeing how that part is supposed to work, I’ve severely modified mine to trim snowmobile trails, so I’m kinda shooting in the dark, ha ha
Mark, this was an EXCELLENT how to do it video. Thanks for posting.
Thank you!
I’ve had that same model John Deere brush hog for 24 years and never had a single problem with it. Best money l ever spent.
That's good to hear! Hopefully I can get that kind of time out of this one. Seems very well built
We had a 7’ version of that JD cutter on our farm. Loved it. Well built & very heavy!
Also ran the Ford 8600, 9600 & 9700 tractors. Loved them too! Good on fuel. Still have the 8600 & 9600 tractors on the farm today!
What a nice setup! What tractor did you use the 7' cutter on? I've been wanting a 7' or a small batwing, but I'm not sure the 5000 is enough tractor...
@marktolman6037 we ran a 15ft batwing with a 5000 along as ya had weight on the front it did good
What does Derek Say..."Vice Grips... The greatest tool EVER mad"
Very true!
Cool resto man. Pretty amazing that you were able to salvage that slip clutch!
Thanks. Definitely made me work for it!
Did a great job bringing the brush hog back to life 👍🏻
Thank you!
Good video. Thanks for making. I have a 205 gyramor that I will be rebuilding.
Those are cool old mowers
Great rebuild and hopefully will last for a long time
It's been through 2 seasons now, still working great. Thanks
For the dipstick maybe tack a strip of metal to the proper sized pipe plug (if its NTP) or a bolt. If you're feeling fancy you could cut off an old metal dipstick...
Great video! I just recovered a 48inch Land Pride left in a backyard for a decade or more. Trying to get it back to operating condition!
Thanks, great find! Best of luck
nicely done ..personaly i wouldnt have fooled with the slip clutch most of the time time there more trouble than there worth...i still use the old sheer bolt system on mine .this has inspired me refurbish my bushog..love you videos and that old ford 5000..i run a ford 3000 from 1974 and the longer the video the better .
Thanks. If that stuff isn't right, it drives me nuts! I had to fix it just so I could sleep at night lol. Nice tractor, love the 1000 series Fords.
Show off some pics when you get your bush hog done!
You sir are an excellent mechanic but also are an excellent refurbish specialist, I noticed the clips about going to Dad's shop to use his 20 to press, your dad taught you well in shop principles that no doubt gave you inspiration to continue in wrenching. Job well done for you and your Dad I know that he is proud of you. from a 70 yr old mechanic dad.
38:05 "don't worry about those runs, you can't see them from your house" is literally a metaphor for the world we live in today. 😂💯💯
@jasondedic "just call me max coverage"
Impressive 👍🏻. Came out pretty damn nice. Makes me want to refurbish things even more
Thank you! Alot of work, but nice to have the old iron working and looking good again
Great rebulid man. I rebulid and basically make whole new decks for the 14ft JD’s for our farm to sell. I would give one tip that will save you a lot of money. A lot of them high dollar bearings and seals from JD you can buy cheaper from napa and are better quality. And for the small models like this they might not be crazy expensive. But for the 14ft model there over 100 dollars while napa is like 20. Glad to see someone else do this kinda thing. Great job man.
@Redneck_scientist_kp_1210 Thanks for the advice, and thanks for watching. I like keeping the old stuff working.
You did a very good job that ford 5000 can more than handle it a 7ft cutter is more what it could do but you use what you got like you attention to details on everything you do was a nice job
Thanks, much appreciated
Just the film I needed to see! thanks for your well made, explain it even better tutorial. And yes I subscribed.🤠
Thank you!
I bet the cost of those parts has doubled in three years!
I maintain a 6 year old 825i Gator with Delux cab, a x350 mower, my 1951 JD A, all prices have doubled+ in the last 4 years 😲😲😲😲😲
As far as the dipstick is concerned, get a brass plug and braise a brass rod into it.
Then notch the end for the level indicator marks.
Works the same and lasts much longer than any plastic 1 will.
Good Job and great video. It surprising to me how sketchy that tail wheel setup is on an otherwise very well built brush hog.
It could have been better designed, that's for sure
Thanks for the trick with the vise-grips pretty niffty.
Thanks, good trick to pull out once in a while
I love your videos, i learn a lot of mecanics with them
Thank you, thanks for watching
got it repaired and looking good enough to take it to town
Thanks, I'll have to take it for a lap through town before I start using it
Great video! Been using for it this 709 repair of my own. Where did you order the bronze shim before the castle nut and codder pin? Also what size? Just curious
Nice! I ordered that through John Deere, it was listed on the parts diagram. I don't recall a size...sorry.
Great video!! Very informative!! Thx
Thanks
It doesn’t take much to take care of stuff and protect it with just old peace’s of sheet metal and rope or weights
She’ll work again 😊
Very true. Thanks
Nice rebuild, well done!
Thanks!
Very nice presentation; but will it hog? Yup. But mercy sakes, John Deering with a Ford NH. lol
Thanks! Haha it's a sin, I know! I'll get a green tractor some day soon...
Blue towing green.
Pretty representative dynamic IMO. ;)
Nice work, well done
@@bigred06100 thanks!
Hey mark is that dip stick a pipe thread if so get a pvc square plug drill a hole put a rod through and finger tight
Yes it is pipe taper. That's a much better idea than spending what John Deere wants for the dip stick!
Welding a longer handle on the nut wrench will give you much better leverage.
had to rewind and make sure my eyes didn't deceive me on the 6.5 engine cover
Yes, you are seeing just fine! Not many people will recognize that...
Great job my friend
Thanks!
Nice job on the rebuild.
Thanks!
Well done and you kept it interesting!
Thank you!
Well done. Real well. A slow revving bearing can be a bit tight.
Thanks
Great video, I just got a 709 and have to do a lot of the same things. 1 question is what is the issue of the operators manual that you have? The serial number tag is missing from my 709 but it has the same clutch as yours.
Thanks! Operators manual- John Deere # OMW37995 c7
Technical manual - John Deere # TM1384 (01may87)
Thanks!
Very nice work sir! Did you seal that top plate on the gearbox with either a gasket or silicone?
Thank you! Yes, I used ultra black permatex. Seems to do the trick just fine.
I think you need to bring in the driveshaft inside and make a plastic bag to seal it from the elements also I put anti seize on those grease. Fitting s
Yes that's a good idea! Luckily where the tractor sleeps now is under cover! Enough room for the bush hog on back
Beautiful good job!👍🏽🙂
Thank you!
Nice project.
Thanks
⚠️ PTO guards prevent sudden Death ⚠️
Deadly dismemberment happens quicker than I can type this. Don't be a smarty pants. 👍
I did the same thing,paid 300 for it sitting in the woods, completely redone for about 400 include paint and decals, worth about 4k now
As I was getting blades they show those cutter also running 4 blades like a chopper for corn stalks I guess I know it doesn't slack up on 3in pines,cuts and chops up
@@jeffross8716 that would definitely be something cool to see. Love these bush hogs
27:26 I thought universal joints need to be different vs the same. Maybe that’s just for vehicles?
Good video, ì think a quick repaint of green wouldn't go a miss 😉 then it will last years
Thanks! In the last scene I did show painting it up nice, hopefully it will look good for a while
@@marktolman6037 yes you did mark, unfortunately I had to cut the video short as I had a works call, I never saw the end until now, i made a comment when I left for work, the Bush cutter looks great now, 👍 enjoy
@@martingale7760 No worries! Thanks, it's been a good mower so far! I have already mowed for a season since publishing the video. Check out my mowing video...
th-cam.com/video/AOU2rAc1Ikg/w-d-xo.html
@@marktolman6037 I love watching old machines working, back in the day ( 1972) when I was 17 years old and just left education I trained as an agricultural engineer, then worked on a 2000 acre organic farm, with horses, stears, sheep, for 14years, ( Ford plus New Holland ) check out a book called Rushall The story of an Organic Farm, By Barry Wookey my Boss ,
My love of framing and old machines working.
@@martingale7760 that sounds like a really cool experience to be able to live through. Agriculture is always interesting to learn about. Plus all the machines you get to be around.
My dad had a 1973 Ford 3500 and a 5’ shredder. Now I know why he was absolutely religious about greasing everything and checking the gearbox fluid on that shredder.
Grease is cheaper than steel
Looks and works good
Thanks!
Parts that go together with John Deere Green paint are 2x what most other brands are.
Truth
like the chain top link. I tell people about that and they look at me like I'm crazy.
It does in a pinch! I've mowed alot of acres that way, still havent gotten a proper top link...
@@marktolman6037 don't need 1 all they do is tear up the hog frame.
@@larryhearell9580 yeah I probably wont get one haha
Great use of the foot vise to get the nut off the clutch. Good stuff man!
Thanks!
Nice job.
Thanks
I am looking to buy a used bush hog and want to avoid paying super high prices for parts like you had to. Do you have any recommendations as to what types of bush hogs are cheap to service and get parts for? thanks for any help
Land Pride and Woods are a good brand to go with. I have a Land Pride bush hog and a Woods finish mower. Parts are reasonably priced and available, as long as you don't have antique models that are outdated.
@@marktolman6037 thanks. could you have just got a generic clutch and installed it on this brush hog? I see them new for $70 on ebay
As far as the older john deere cutters go, no, not without some machine work. It's how the clutches connect to the gear box that differs.
@@marktolman6037 ok. so I should just look for something other the JD. Can't I just hook a slip clutch to the pto shaft?
@narcissistinjurygiver2932 Absolutely. A lot of people don't use slip clutches, but I prefer to have one. If you are handy, any brush cutter will work. I have used my John Deere for years, and it's extremely heavy duty. At least the series I have, can't speak for newer ones.
Wow obove and beyond on a brush hog that gets beat to hell any way
I agree. It doesnt get too beat up with me using it, I'm pretty easy on it for the most part. Gets stored inside. It still looks great after 2 mowing seasons.
Watching him is like watching my wife work on stuff
Not sure what to say to that
I've got same cutter on my 5600 no problem I pit 1000$ worth of weights on my front
Nice, the weight out front must make a difference
How can anyone leave an expensive piece of equipment out in the elements to rot?
Not sure, but it happens much too often!
To be honest I thought the bill would be more than $300 for those parts...
Excelent. Thanks ...
my uncle has a mx 6 jd brush hog my dad used his 860 ford, and it brush hog just fine he tried his 8n wouldn't even lift it
Haha that's alot of weight!
@marktolman6037 the 860 front end will bounce up and down when you let the clutch out and have the brushog raised up
@@ThatMinnesotaFarmer have to be careful going up hills and slopes
@@marktolman6037 yep
Grease is cheaper than steal
Words of wisdom
Where did you get the great cover what happened to the cover ????
Are you referring to the 6.5 GM diesel engine cover?
I miss my ford 5000
Good Skills...
Thanks
Very god
Riveting video!
Many thanks
Der Bart wirkt wie ein Fremdkörper😂
one of the tools you are using is not called a torch, the proper name is "gas axe"
🤣 haha my apologies
Hey mark what that open hole on the deck top ?
Access to the nuts that hold the blades on the stump jumper.
Yes
Why not sharpen the blades
Luckily, blades were new when I got the cutter! Just covered in a layer or thin rust. They came right to the front the first time I used the mower.
What did the blades look like?
Almost new, prior owners must have changed them and stopped using it.
Is that 606 model or a 616 model?
609
Question why not just boil the shaft in water and vinegar and eat all the rust off over night, Instead of doing it the hard way?
Vinegar and water is a good household solution to remove light surface rust, but not so much for severe rust, galling and corrosion. There are certain acid baths and electric processes used to remove heavy penetrating rust, but I found it's easier and quicker to use heat and force. Heat actually allows the external metal to expand, allowing for separation. I have freed many a stuck part that way, like rusted tow hitches in receivers, nuts and bolts, leaf springs shackle bolts, tools, etc.
@@marktolman6037 It depends on the concentration of acidic acid in vinegar and the temperature of the bath, I also use Torches. But you have to be careful with universal joint bearings.
@@carrollsanders9376 U joints are quite resilient, I've heated dozens of joints in driveshaft, steering columns, pto shafts, CV shafts, etc. Just remove the grease fitting to allow grease to not pressurize. Sometimes that's the only realistic option to persuade stubborn pats to seperate.
@@marktolman6037 I have bigger torches airco pro, than you, I have heated Joints to the point that the fractured the need bearings in the joints, I have always found it's often best to use the more gentile methods. The greese fiting doesn't matter when the needle bearings are ruined by the heat. One way to do it and save the needle bearing is to place the Ujoint in water when heating the shaft.
@@carrollsanders9376 Nice. It could be you are using too much heat than necessary. I've never fractured a needle bearing...and can reuse a joint after being heated...but usually the only time I'm heating a u joint to the point of fracturing, I'm replacing anyways...
grow up and pay for your parts, you think they should give them to you.
I did pay for them, that's how I got them... I figured people would like to see the cost of rebuilding something like this. Not everyone has tons of money to spend.