Aikido VS Untrained Fighter
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- There are many Aikido vs videos, yet most are with compliant partners. We decided to do it the right way.
Although this is still just a first step, we did our best to do our Aikido vs video with a resisting partner, throwing any punches and going for it. Of course the next step would be to bring even more intensity and a person who is trained, so I am planning to do Aikido vs MMA round 2 video soon.
While this is officially Aikido vs Untrained Fighter, it would be close to call that it was also Aikido vs Karate, since my partner did train Karate for 8 years, yet we decided to still call it Aikido vs Untrained Fighter since he trained it a long time ago. We also did not call it Aikido vs Boxing because his boxing skills are still very new.
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The husky says "meh, I could take them both with jaw-jutsu".
Rofl :D
Thomasuki267 you're so wrong.
Its karate...
ליאת מאיר he's talking about the dog
Nicolás Paradoja I knew that LOL
ליאת מאיר for sure you meant Jawrate.
Attempts at 'live' aikido always end up looking like bad judo.
:) Your point may be right
I have been trying to figure out how to describe it, and you just nailed it.
Well it can't look like Aikido because he wears gloves... even if this would have been a cooperative training partner it couldn't look like Aikido because like 90% of the Aikido techniques rely on NOT wearing boxing gloves ;-) And the few remaining techniques that can be executed with boxing gloves are mainly some throws that are identical to Judo.
@@b00nish he used mma gloves he could grab so you arent completly right
@drsandkastenschaufel Believe me, with this gloves you can't grab in any way that comes close to the requirements of Aikido.
I think if you ever got jumped while walking your dog, your dog would react like it was the most normal thing in the world.
I wrestled with my dog all of the time, so when my brother came to visit and started wrestling with me, the dog would attack me too.
Well done m8. You are very brave. Most martial arts teachers are all talk no walk, they never try to practice what they preach in a real situation. Win or lose you get my respect.
Thanks
YES and that's EXACTLY why he's finding MOST martial arts to be totally INEFFECTIVE-- because the lousy teachers that were either totally fake- or just NOT good at what they do or CAN"T TEACH- some very good folks at practice can't teach for sh... all these situations are why he's finding out most arts are NOT effective.. a good pro at any art- can easily be VERY effective against average street BS.. and most good at their arts- unless the practitioner is VERY talented on top of his years of training.
Looks hard to use aikido
It is O_O But I am seeing how and if it's possible
Hard but not impossible. I think at some point Rokas-san will find better transitions to get himself to Aikido. Good video!
But not impossible you just gotta train the right way.
It might be possible to utilise those akido techniques on a kid, or someone a quarter of your size
My instructor always told me it works great on people that give up their momentum. Angry people or someone that isn't used to sparring and throws haymakers
Is the dog the ref?
That dog is so excited trying to help LoL
"HOOMAN YOU SEEM TO BE IN DANGER!!!!"
Great video. Thank you!
Henrique Nakamura my friends dog got concerned when I was training him. Dogs seem to like getting involved when people are training XD
"OOH OOH! YOU'RE DOING STUFF? I WANT TO DO STUFF!!"
haha yeah. was doing some light boxing sparring with my fiancee recently. The cat got upset and started squawking at us until we reassured him that it wasn't a real fight :) Then he just watched us with a 'you're idiots' expression.
One of the few honest Explorations into the effectiveness of a martial arts. I applaud your willingness to be open and learn. Keep up the good work!
Thank you!
This is important really - no other channel that I can think of, honestly sets up fights or situations that you expect them to lose. They don't genuinely test stuff out, where you see the failure. If they show failure, they show it in a "this is how it looks when it fails" kind of way.
As someone who has, in a different field, gone through just a little of what Rokas is doing - in his own wise words: "this shit ain't easy".
That's what "studying Martial Arts" actually means! Way to go, Rokas! Keep it up! 🙇
Nice to see a community taking form around this project also! May it bring insightful experiences and healthy exchange of it!
Thanks. I agree! The community aspect is amazing! It makes it go and progress so much better by learning from everyone
I once tried to help a friend train for her aikido black belt grading. It was really strange. Every time she tried any takedowns she would look at me and say something like "you should be off balance by now". I tried to be a compliant partner but because I had no idea what these takedowns were, my body just naturally did whatever to stay balanced and she grew frustrated. Granted I do have a background in traditional and sports martial arts, but she couldn't understand why she couldn't throw me around like her classmates. She then proceeded to train me how to be off balance and that's when I understood the problem: her classmates expected a fixed outcome in training and threw themselves off balance for her benefit. Aikido can be fun but I just find the practioners too compliant with one another. I'm sure there are some good aikido guys around that can toss me like a rag doll, but I have yet to experience it.
I had that experience too when I got attacked by guys who know some martial art, 3 of them were trying 3 different takedowns at the same time and I could just pull my arm free and knock one out, it’s better to find a counter in the moment then to practice a specific moves counter
Instead of using big hybrid mma gloves and boxing gloves try using the standard 4oz mma gloves. You can always throw on full headgear and a mouthpiece to protect your face from the strikes.
I usually train with 4oz and a mouthpiece, sometimes shin pads. It has a more "realistic" feel because they're smaller and allow better technique as the larger gloves get in the way.
Thanks Daniel for the advice! We are looking into getting head gear already. Could you give more details why you suggest 4oz gloves?
4oz is just the standard mma glove size. It will allow for much better grip during grabs and wont impede wrist manipulation if your opponent is wearing them too. If you arent trying to do any grabs and you just want to work on striking other gloves are good as well.
Stick to what you have for now. Your not ready for such a dramatic or drastic change in equipment. Over all as you progress eventually you will want to go bare knuckle. But your now rewiring you mind and body so take it easy. I know I did aikido my self for a while before I got in to stand up, Japanese jujutsu and eventually MMA.
Just as a reminder, headgear only protect your skin, concussions still happen. If you happen to get headgear, don't go up in the intensity of the strikes as it gives a false sensation of protection.
I am very very impressed with what you are trying to do. I a judoka but I when I lived in Japan I trained for a a year and a half with Fujitani Sensei at the Tenshin Dojo in Osaka. I left Aikido because of it consistently proved ineffective against a resisting opponent. I wish you luck in your endeavors and look forward to Your development and evolution of Aikido.
Husky comes and checks "is my master ok?". Great !
You seem to have a heavy forward lean (along your back and your neck), and tend to lead horizontally with your head. I think that is a bad tendency to have.
I agree, it´s not good for pure wrestling/grappling and terrible if striking is included.
Thanks! I keep that in mind, yet yes, I need to work more on that. Thank you for your advice
Very true, try to keep your back straight, arms up, stay sideways and if you need to get low do it with your legs without bending your back. And always go sideways, this is what Aikido is about.
Nour Eddine Yaghmour sideways is not good.
Everybody is an expert on youtube lol
May be if you try when No one has any sort of gloves or wrist wrapping on it may be easier?
I really appreciate this. Instead of constant downing a martial art, you said,"Hey! Let's improve it and make it more practical." It means a lot.
Great job!! You’ve improved so much from your first sparring session with the mma guy! You were successfully able to implement your aikido techniques. Way to go! Keep at it Rokas!
Thank You!
Take a look at this: th-cam.com/video/0j_lCc-BM8A/w-d-xo.html I think this will help you learn to close and not get hit.
Any half-witted wrestler will be able to destroy that guy
AikidoSiauliai should you be wearing this at your level?
He is trying to use Aikido moves to see what works.
Dude... I commend you for what you are doing... it takes such a strong sense of self and humbleness at your approach with an openess at true expression of what truly works in your experiments and experiences.
Your best moments here are when you throw a strike *immediately before* entering into the clinch range.
Thanks. That's a good point!
Doesn’t,t look like there is much enthusiasm to actually throw a punch
Are you sure you know Aikido??
You do understand Aikido is the defence not the attack. All you did was a poor attempt at Judo. And if you do believe that was Aikido, you dont have any talent for it.
Aikido won't work against trained fighters.
And I say that as a long time, but currently, Ex Aikido student.
Lets not be deluded about this Aikidoka of TH-cam.
Aikido isn't for combat sports.
It isn't used in MMA because it won't work. Not because it's too lethal.
And that isn't bad.
Why?
Because Aikido is useful elsewhere!
*shock horror*
*the sound of MMA fans and practitioners fainting in the background*
"How dare a Martial art not be the same as MMA and work in the cage, which means also in the street!"
Well shit, guess what? Not everything has to be for MMA.
And just because of that, it doesn't make something less legit- or automatically means "it doesn't work!"....
Aikido is legit-
Because it will work against; untrained, unsuspecting, drunk/high, attackers.
And that makes it legit enough.
Because it is applicable.
Law enforcement use it, Security use it, so yes it's legit.
Let's stop dick measuring, style vs style.
We are all Martial artists. We all train the arts.
Aikido is a tool, as much as learning how to box is.
Mix it with other styles and you get so much more to add to the package.
Currently I Box and Kickbox, but I am returning to Aikido soon, to add to my arsenal. Imagine Kickboxing mixed with Aikido.
Man that idea has my mind racing.
Martial ARTS. Get creative.
Everything has its place.
Stop being such dicks to eachother.
Open your minds for fuck sake.
The only enemies we should all have are against;
No touch, McDojo's, Fake Black Belts, Fraud teachers and styles, Teachers who abuse their students physically, mentally and financially, Buy your black belt courses!!
I'm really enjoying these videos. Much respect for what you are doing here, admitting that your chosen style wasn't quite up to scratch in a modern setting and actively trying to fix the problems rather than burying your head in the sand takes balls man.
Thank You!
I've always liked the use of aikido I'm sure you have seen the works of Dan the wolfman using aikido it seems aikido is a martial art that counters not exactly an untrained person but more of an actual trained artist using its confusing ways and from judokas or bjj people wondering "where is this takedown is from?" A counter counter if you will.
Personally on an average person it seems possible if you can absorb some punches in the meantime but as a fellow black belt in an mma system I used a basic aikido wrist lock to submit a former high school wrestler and current deputy. With ease by confusion kinda like drunken boxing both maybe meh on an average joe but seems effective on martial artists that aren't trained in either and dont understand the technique and it just shuts their brain off for some reason. May just be speculation just a theory I had for awhile can definetly be debated.
Look man, I really like what you do, and I respect you a lot as a martial artist, if for nothing but your dedication. But when the only wins Aikido can pick up is “Aikido vs literally nothing” I think we can afford to let the art pass on.
How do you think this video would go after the 6 months program of mma? Just trying to pull off aikido techniques against an "untrained striker"?
Yeh quietly following your progress... excellent stuff mate. Reminds me of Bruce Lee’s exploratory development and learning... which led him to greatness.
TheUnfetteredOne wtf
yeh throwing a couple punches is prob the best way to get in range for yur wrestling or aikido locks.
It's very good that you're doing this and filming it. Not only is it good for you, but I think it will be good for a lot of open minded individuals that stumble on to this.
Thank you
I like this sparring match vs your first one with the trained MMA fighter. Very specific, you were not afraid to get hit this time. The confidence in your ability to handle some punches really comes through. You looked a lot more comfortable in your own skin and dealt with random attacks more relaxed. Great improvement!
I hate comments with criticism of application, but I dare add something to help. The transition points of going from fighting to Aikido are the keys to making Aikido work. That is where Aikido lacks, its transitions do not adapt or harmonize with a different type of attack. BJJ, wresting, and boxing have some great transitions that you could use to get to Aikido. You used a couple that seemed effective. Here are some that I like to use during sparring to transition to Aikido:
1. Jab counter: slip to the outside of the jab and simultaneously counter with your own lead hand for an irminage to the face (or just a jab counter).
2. Jab-cross counter: slip outside of jab then cover for cross, catch the elbow, tenkan, koykunage/sumiotoshi
3. Offensive back fist: trap lead hand, back fist to the outside of the head, pull head down, kaiten nage
And there are many many more that can transition real nice. Good luck!
Thanks Cesar! By the way, I wanted to check, if I remember you live in UK. May I ask where in UK?
AikidoSiauliai I live in the U.S., specifically Houston, Texas.
Cesar Aguirre wasn't scared to take a hit? Did I just watch a different video? He showed lots of improvement yes, but he'd flail his arms every time he thought he was gonna get hit instead of countering.
I'm not even subscribed to this channel yet I'm getting recommended.
Whatever it is you're doing, from what I heard you're trying to add things more to your aikido, good luck.
Thanks!
You look like your fighting your future self with that haircut.
Kas lietuviai spauskit like
I guess it would have been easier to perform real Aikido techniques without those boxing gloves because they seem to limit you in terms of proper grabing.
I love the dog. So cute.
I've trained aikido for a few months and I'm a lot better than this
Can't lie this is making me want to go learn aikido just so i can try to blend it with some bjj, catch wrestling and boxing. The thing about sparring like that is that you're not being given enough energy to really do something with it. Do some drills where you're getting legit committed punches thrown and drill at least one technique full speed till completion. Wish i knew the names of the moves so i could give an example lol
Lol :D Sounds great :) Thanks for sharing
basically, if he was throwing real punches, he would have beat the shit out of you. You didn't duck or react or anything, you were jist knowing he will not hit you.
I agree. The untrained guy didn't hit hard...
If anyone's planning to rush through punches in order to get an underhook or a wristlock - the chance he'll get knocked out is quite big
Anton St
They're practicing and learning
Give em a break.
And full contact would look nothing like this on either side.
True but you gotta start somewhere
I'm just stating the obvious. Practice means to at least have SOME intention to the punch, so the other person doesn't just ignore it. Sting him a little once or twice, so he knows he must not ignore what's coming.
You may be the most honest aikido practicioner in the world. You will suck at first of course but I see great potential of creating something knew with experience. Keep exploring and practicing, we may learn a lot from you. Aikido revolution!
It doesn't make sense to try an aikido technique with a boxing glove or even an mma glove, is very difficult, is not the same grab the joint to grab the glove.
With a lot of respect rokas you have to practice your footwork, aikido has a good footwork applied properly, and also a more solid base to avoid takedowns, also your blocks and defense.
Thats my advice, I love your work man!!
Thank you!
The fact that you're pressure testing your aikido is excellent. It's also clear that with some of your techniques were effective. Keep up the great work.
It's great seeing you test your aikido skills in sparring against different styles and levels of competency while adding to your skill set from other arts.
3 things.
1. Looks life you're trying to recreate Japanese jujitsu when you add bjj and punches in. I think if you want to keep it aikido you should avoid striking altogether and focus on throws and escaping from grappling then maybe the spirit of aikido is still there. (Not saying you shouldn't practice those things).
2. If you ditch the punches ditch the gloves. They just get in the way and in full contact fighting they're more dangerous than bare fists. Even the punches you throw now look like taking the gloves off wouldn't make a difference.
3. Love what you're trying to do. Keep it up.
Thanks!
Aikido has been changed from a fighting form to an art to a fighting form and back to an art again many time over the years. To make it work against modern opponents who aren't in full classical armor. I would add some wrestling, bjj or sambo and some form of striking. I don't hate aikido but when I was mostly untrained often I was too much for aikido black lets to handle. Im not some high level pro or anything fancy, a black belt should be able to handle them self against me. So I don't trust it as a stand alone style to protect my family with. Nothing against the art it's just I only have but so much time to train so the training has to be practical.
Thank you for sharing your honest and vulnerable training journey. Many people get discouraged by the rough learning process, but I'm so happy to see you display confidence and humility.
Dog was best part of the video
2:35 out side trip, to side control with double wristlock grip nice
Also at 3:57 i think the trip you were looking for might have been available if you had a tighter overhook on that guys left arm since you were dragging him around trying to get him off balance, good work though
Thanks!
Excellent! Great to see you so humbly allowing us to watch your failures and successes. It's a very useful experiment. Interestingly, as you adapt the aiki techniques a little, they get very close to (standing) BJJ techniques despite you deliberately trying not to use BJJ. Essentially, what works, works! All martial arts, IMHO, when pushed to use their effective techniques only, end up looking surprisingly alike.
Good points! I was talking about this with my fighting coach as well and he said something I liked as well: that all effective techniques end up looking similar even in different styles, because they are effective so they are universal :)
loved the dog
You have a very interesting youtube channel. If you dance tango then you dance tango. People should respect their martial arts they train, but it is not wrong to learn more and see things in different light. I did taekwondo over 15 years and after that did aikido, mma and bjj. When I did aikido there wasnt room for taekwondo, it was pointless, because I trained aikido. Same thing with bjj. Taekwondo didnt help with me when I trained bjj. But when I trained mma, very short time, but still, taekwondo helped me a lot, but still the technics differs from taekwondo..Aikido and bjj function perfectly when work with young and adults patients. This is also for Nurses, doctors etc: MAPA=Management of Actual or Potential Aggression. Keep up the good work but dont lose yourself in this "what is the best" thing...
Man, definitely seeing stuff moving with this.
Obviously it's not there yet, but this is going in a cool direction. I noticed the irimi nage as well! :D
Super neat idea to set up a "control" sparring session to have something to compare to - like that a lot!
Thanks!
Great start! Definitely looking better already than your Aikido vs MMA. Great also you got some Aikido techniques in there, glad to see Aikido can work! Please keep pressure testing and find out what works best.
Will do! Thank you
qnz_78 I don't think that is exactly working, mainly because he seems so much exposed to be hit by an "untrained" fighter.
The moves seems to work only when the aikido guy just ignore hits as nothing...
In a real fight, the aikido guy should probably be found bleeding on the ground. And this is a little sad...
CopernicoTube I agree. You commit to the technique and take a big risk. It can work but probably but success percentage will depend on how well you've practiced it with a high level of resistance. But again personally it's probably something I won't do unless there's a special reason like taking down a drunk friend.
Basic headmovent, parry punches and moving diagonally rather than back and forth and it would elevate your game at that time some
happy to see your improvment
A lot of improvements, honestly I continue to be impressed with your dedication, some interesting exchanges in that video.
Edit : You could probably be more aggressive in those clinch exchanges. I think that's probably a natural grappler habit hehe, you guys are stubborn in there, always trying to keep pulling off whatever just failed while you get kneed in the ribs. The clinch is heaven for a lot of strikers, if what you initiated failed, don't stick in there unless you intend to dish out some punishing yourself before you attempt a take down again. Otherwise you're just digging yourself into a lot of trouble.
first protect yourself dont attack- counter
good that you are trying to train diffrent. O-sensei himself said the aikido im doing today will not be the aikido im doing tomorow ;). search for the book aikido ground fiting and aikido atemi book mabe some intresting things in there
As we all see here...this boxing style jumping..is a sport....not a killing attack...or a determined life defending determinant technique...so it would be..aikijutsu hard core...1..2..3...step...that's how much one has....in a fight in a war situation ...bouncers.. Bodyguards know it..1..2..3...run or attack..1...2...3
Hey, I know you cancelled the project, but I do not see really a try out to use aikido here. No distance control, you initiate attacks, no pulling opponent's center (hips) in your stance. I would think aikidoka should work more on distance to get out from the attack and when the attacker get angry about it and use more force and mass, you should use his force to pull out him from balance.
Although I do understand. I had similar project years ago... and find out aikido is not suitable for self defence anymore and I quit. Meantime I tried judo, TKD, karate, krav maga and bjj and found out aikido gave me great skills except techniques, which are very limted in use.
Where's your Shomen Uchi? Tenchinage? Ikkyo? And get rid of the gloves... Not practical and you'll never grab someone with them on. Get rid of them and try to use your aikido training and not your fear. Also, I agree with rawsnl. Learn Judo... O'sensei learned it as a teenager and there is a lot of cross over between the two.
Nice Osoto ;)
I think maybe your aikido would work better if you improve your footwork and maybe get use to punches without flinching.
Fun vid! Keep it up.
I did aikido for 1 year then I quit because was totally useless on self-defense, and I needed a martial arts for defend my self against bullys. So I start taekwondo for being beated buy bullys and on tatami xD. I can't give you tips cause you r a master, but if I would IMHO you play too much aggressive, while aikido is a full defense stance arts. So play as a wait and focus on grab on armpit, that is easier to grab then wrist.
Best video yet in respect of starting to play with it all and discover...the only bit I'm really not keen on is how you give up your own structure so easily, either trying to clinch or in the middle of 'grappling' - maybe that's the MMA and BJJ coming through, but give up your structure like that and you're asking to be owned...break their structure, their kuzishi, I am guessing that is aikido principles too, they're very important in my opinion.
You are doing all better... a lot better. To give better comments I would prefer that repetitions of Aikido techniques were in big size (and slow motion) instead of your face... then I could detail... I am using a cell phone right now... maybe I check again later using a tablet... 😓
Good point. I said the same to the editing guy about small size, yet it was too late :D
AikidoSiauliai of course I am not against your face... my English is not so good sometimes 😃
Respectfully asked (hopefully). Why do you insist on wearing Hakama in these types of videos?
Sure, it's a good question :) It's more for video presentation purpose. It makes it easier for people to realize that I am the Aikido guy. Also, I can't lie, it does help with getting more views to keep this project going. Unfortunately, that is how TH-cam works. Nevertheless, I enjoy wearing my hakama :)
3:05 to 3:11 you could use the wristlock to perform an armbar from bjj
You are crouching too much, this can lead to a head kick or knee in the future, don't take that as a habit.
Nice spar, you improved a lot, keep going i like what are you doing.
of course you know Aikido far better than me but your approach seems very preposterous:
1) why are you doing Aikido with gloves?
2) Aikido is supposed to be using the adversary's motion, directing and redirecting it but here you are the one charging. I would expect him to attack and you to anticipate his charges
The problem is you actually need a jab to distract long enough to bridge.
Thanks. I was discovering that more at the end of the sparring. Need to work on that. I'm still unused to strike :)
You don’t seem to know what to do with your upper body. Your timing is way off. Your ability to move in on your opponent, to create a bridge has not yet formed. I wonder if you had started with another martial art first and then added Aikido to it, if you would have a better sense of what to do.
I had the audio off at first and I was watching the vid thinking, "the untrained dude doesn't look untrained" but you covered him being kyokushin which is a rowdy karate. like really rowdy. I had to rewind. He's clearly kept some of the skill from his training
A quick note on your foot work, don't step forward like you're walking when you come after him. Your balance will be terrible if you're caught in the middle of it. There are rare exceptions but for the most part, shuffle, don't walk or run in.
Thanks for the tip. Yes, I was also a bit confused with having more difficulties with him then planned and then realized he did have training :D Will be cool though, since he will continue to develop along side my training and the challenge will keep rising :)
You should learn some thai boxing, clinching would help you a lot, be able to close the distance more easy with knee and punches and sweeps would help, and can go hard without hurt each other,
Nicee, very nice! Love what you are doing with aikido keep on questioning everything not just aikido!
Having fun is ok, doing some punching sparring also, but IMHO this has nothing to do with Aikido...
I currently train in a Korean traditional martial art that has elements of Taekwondo, Hapkido, and Judo (as in we train with punches, kicks, pressure points, joint locks, throws, and falling techniques) and I have recently started training in BJJ to help develop my close range skills. I see how training in both styles helps me in the other. One such example is that when I spar in BJJ, I have no problems engaging while standing up and looking to throw/sweep someone to the ground vs resorting to pulling guard to bring the fight to the ground quickly. I also have learned quickly how to deal with grips and recognize when I am in danger (even though I may not always know how to deal with the threat). Due to rolling after class, I have learned how to better train/drill the jointlocks as well as I have better cardio for when I am doing forms.
My biggest advice for modernizing aikido is implementing sparring involving strikes but encourage the joint locks/throws/sweeps so that it forces the practicioner to learn how to use those techniques while being punched/kicked. Keep up the work!
Always question your teachers methods (not meaning asking "why this? why this?...")
But question your teacher, meaning question yourself. Why the application, why doing something. If you can't understand?? Don't spend years perfecting nothing.
It’s always stupid to say “something vs something”, as in reality it is always just “somebody vs somebody”. Not to mention that the person who dares to call himself “Aikido” has the level of a rather okeyish 2.kyu at the best (which is not so bad, but still very-very far from being on the level to be identified with the Martial Art itself)!
If you was in a real fight with someone trying to hurt you,ALL THE STUFF YOU LEARNED WOULD GET YOU HURT YOU PROVE AIKIDO IS FOR meditation and living peacefully it is not a real world SELF DEFENSE ART
What do you think of Realni Aikido? As contrasted with mainline Aikido for example.
I spotted something and again I just had to wait til the end where you identified it yourself. Good job with your analysis. I was going to mention the korogashi leaving the back of your head open to his punches which would be a very vulnerable spot to be hit. BJJ can have the same issue going for certain leg attacks. I see people go for them in MMA and leave themselves open for punches with all limbs focused on one leg and none for defense.
Good point!
Sorry to be blunt, but aikido looks so awful. People were pointing out that Aikido is garbage 20-30 years ago and, unsurprisingly, nothing has changed. You could refine it for years and it would still be bad Judo.
Just do more effective arts (Judo, Boxing, MT, BJJ, etc)!
Most people would be better off just lifting weights than doing aikido. Even doing nothing might be preferable.
Though it’s nice to be so brave to explore all sides of a martial art, but at this level would be much better not to make TH-cam videos from them. ...More or less 10-20 years more of this exploration would be still needed, before I would recommend this.
You forgot the basic of Aikido standing stance! Take this advice from a Silat master: don't try to be like a boxer but just be who you are, which is an Aikidoka! I suggest you watch the demonstration of Silat Suffian Bela Diri (SSBD) on Maul565 channel. Hopefully you'll learn something! Be proud of your Aikido style and remember the adage of the founding father of Aikido!
th-cam.com/video/YNCl21xQ5WE/w-d-xo.html (SSBD against boxer jab)
th-cam.com/users/Maul565videos (Maul565 videos collection)
GET RID OF THE GLOVES.
Wear a face mask or practice with open handed strikes thrown slower. The large clumsy gloves are not helping you learn anything.
Do you realize that you are afraid of your opponents strikes? If you watch your video you should see it.
Do you see that you do not know how to deflect his strikes?
Do you clearly understand that you are unable to shift your head and body out of the way in a safe and practical way?
Your fear is preventing progress. You have to learn to stay calm and move correctly.
Aikido and other martial art techniques cannot be applied as long as your fear controls you.
So, you need to learn how to deflect his strikes in a safe and effective way, while shifting your head out of the way.
Clinching will come later. Don't move your feet yet. You awkward stepping is preventing you from learning how to shift your head and use your arms.
Start by learning to handle punches with MINIMAL or NO stepping.
You should work on basic things like this..
1. How to deflect jabs - lead hand ONLY
2. How to DUCK or COVER against lead hooks.
3. How to deflect rear hand straight punches.
4. How to Duck and cover against rear hand hooks.
You need to be able to EASILY and CALMLY handle these 4 strikes while standing in place
Once you can do that better without fear, you'll be ready to learn how to clinch correctly.
These are BASIC skills that EVERY boxer knows.
Don't overthink...just respond on his attacked based on what you have learned from your training...i think you're being overwhelmed by all the martial arts you been feeding yourself...i think you need to improve on your footwork my friwnd..godbless you in ur career.👍
Hey i am just a guy who is practising another martial art(Not aikido).My opinion is the reason why your aikido don't work is about your lack of physical strength(i don't mean to judge you).For example Mma guys do lift.Karate pricks do lift too.You should lift or do atleast calisthenics to build yourself up
Keep up the good work! Aikido needs you.
Thank you!
From what ive gathered from u
-Aikido has a quite toxic system and family tree amongst the higher belts
-aikido provides little to no practical self defence
-aikido cannot translate well into other martial arts
So like.....whats the point of doing aikido...? Like...for real though i wanted to do western boxing,judo,brazilian jiujitsu and aikido to be like....complete...but it doent seem worth it
Hi I would like to demand : I'm 35 years old and I have the chance to practice aikido. I'm looking for inner peace through martial arts and learn some defense techniques. Would you suggest it to me ? I'm not new to martial arts, I've practiced Wing Chun, Kempo, karate and muay thay. Thanks for the answer !
How come you're not training for being disarmed? That's where judo and jujitsu come into play. Judo is your defense when you've lost your sword . Jujitsu is what you use after you have removed your opponents sword. It's all the extensions. Your sword is your hands . Right. Lol .
I dont understand why youre making fun of Aikido. I started training in Aikido when i was 10 years old, after watching under siege and yes I know some people dont like Steven seagal but it inspired me. I went to study with the great white tiger while he was still forming the UFC with Mr. Frank Dux and they used me as an example of how a 10 year old boy weighing 80lbs can easily stop a 200lb boxer with out even gettting hit. I also learned the death touch but i can not use on it anyone for obvious reasons. People only talk crap about Ninjaitsushotojutsu and Aikido el stevo no touch empty hand bullshitokungfuo because they are whimps, and know their worthless MMA is no match for us in real life hand to hand to the death combat. ive studied at the yellow bamboo, the black belch academy, and even a little at My Hero Academia, so I know what im talking about. Aikido is the most lethal combat style ever made, and to suggest other wise is preposterous !!
I see no boxing gloves (how are you supposed to use nikyo, sankyo, gokyo, etc with boxing gloves?), the Aikido guy on a fucking fighting stance that defeats the entire purpose of aikido (surprising your opponent the moment he initiates the altercation and ending it with one technique) and NO atemi which Yamada and Donovan sensei have both said are 90% of the technique. I don't know who taught you Aikido, but it looks they forgot to tell you that Aikido is not for the ring, it's for the streets where there are NO RULES.
Use your tai sabaki, too.
It's mainly beacuse bad practicioner. Aikido wont work without good principal approach first in the situation. Its technique wont work unless you can get the chance, otherwise you'll be dumped.
A trip or two but in general no Aikido posture. You've proved that it does not work against a non-compliant partner. Unfortunately, years wasted. Study boxing and BJJ. Good luck and thanks for posting.
I think you are really trying. I just think your Aikido skills need a lot more improvment.
At the moment I think your aikido is just to weak for practical use.
As your skills improve you will get better. But right now you will not be able to defend yourself just using Aikido.
I read that when Ueshiba Morehei started teaching Aikido he just accepted students that already had black belts(In Kendo, Judo, and Karate etc.).
Meaning they already knew self-defence. But learned how not to harm the attacker and still neutralize the opponent.
If those punches were real the aikido guy would have been in serious problem... Enjoyable video though, really instructional
I think you should switch the gloves for head gear. That would be a more realistic situation. In a real fight, no one has gloves or gi. It would be more conducive to wrist techniques. I have to admit, I did train a little in boxing so I don't shy away from a punch. The last real fight that I was forced into with a BJJ practitioner, I used a kotegaeshi type of outside wrist grab, flipped him over and ended up breaking his wrist. I know this because I'm also an xray tech and shot the xray after bandaging his wounds. When it's a real fight, people commit to their punches and give themselves more easily to an Aikido technique. You want to blend with that power. Your gloves have you standing like a novice boxer bending over like a novice wrestler. Take them off and stand like a real Aikidoka. Allow them to commit to their attack so you can commit to your technique. This comment is meant to be constructive criticism, sorry if it sounds otherwise.
This is excruciating... and utter bollox.
The bloke in the dress with his effected hairdo is trying hard..
But the boxer is merely tapping or 'touch pointing' the idiot.. and almost in slow motion for him too.
There were DOZENS of occasions where the boxer could have knocked the tits bloody stupid head off..
Most chinese/japanese styles are great when used against dancing partners, or just maybe against someone who knows nothing at all and is very unfit.
This is why you never see them practised (for long...) in MMA.
Although, I must admit it does 'look good' when you see two 'artists' doing their choreographed dancing together!
Or practising kata..
You won't learn anything by having your opponents dance and be so servile to you. ~
And for goodness sake do not ever, (ever..) convince yourself that you can set about a boxer and win..
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Dude is a fraud! 1. Aikido is a non-striking art. 2. Aikido is a non-competition art. 3. Aikido does not use a boxing/combative stance. 4. Aikido is not an offensive art, it requires using your opponents striking momentum in a combination of foot work and wrist locks to guide off balance and subdue. I don't know what your background is, but that is not Aikido.
The striker, ain't "untrained". He's like, intermediate level and pretty good for that level. Beginners and untrained people, don't move that well with good points of defense. These friendly type sparring, always heavily favor the grappler because the grappler can go up to 100% power & intensity while the striker is only tapping.
This is not aikido. No aikido basic fundamentals: stance, posture, stepping offline, connection, blending, balance taking, technique, etc. This looked like two amatuer mma fighters going at it. Perhaps it's not the martial art, but the martial artist that is to blame for poor performance. IMO