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- This video shows more steam locomotives from all over North America that I think should be restored to operating condition.
Disclaimer: All Images and Songs used in this video belong to their respective owners.
Note: At the time this video was posted, my sources said that Pere Marquette 1225 was out of service. As of now this information is no longer accurate, as the locomotive is now operational once again.
You know you're a serious foamer when you suggest restoration of UP 9000. It can never run again due to its rigid wheelbase and most of these other engines won't ever be restored either. Cotton belt 819 is being restored to active service in fits and starts. They need a place to run. Restoration of a steam locomotive is an absolute logistics NIGHTMARE. You have to run the engines somewhere and that requires cooperation with class 1 roads. You have to have the infrastructure to maintain and house the thing and most importantly you need investors. Can these locomotives be restored? Yes, anything can be restored with enough money thrown at it. The point is, SHOULD any of these be restored? In short, no, not without a series of miracles.
So you're the Ian Malcolm of railfans? Well just know this: trains, uh, find a way.
@@justinratcliffe947 no, I'm not the pessimistic jerk of railfans. I'm realistic. They literally can't run 9000 due to the rigid wheelbase anywhere but on the plains. And it's a literal nightmare of logistics to restore, maintain and run a steam locomotive in the modern Era. I'm a realist, not a pessimist.
@@ChargerusPrime In all fairness my comment was a joke
@@justinratcliffe947 it's not a joking matter as I have actually been looking into owning and restoring a steam locomotive.
@@ChargerusPrime Well hell I honestly wanna do the same thing. In fact I'd love to have my own railroad museum. But I'm not rich so that's never gonna happen for me
GTW 4070 is already being restored in Cleveland.
Pere Marquette 1225 is back in service now. When you made this video you should put in the notes that she had to get her wheels done and maintenance and 1225 is restored and in operation
When I made this video over 6 months ago, my sources said at that time the locomotive was currently unserviceable. I apologize that that's no longer accurate, but I am very happy that the locomotive is operational once again.
1225 is back in service
the 1225 is back in service
4-12-2 is basically Impossible to operate because it’s Frame is to Large for any railroad line and the thing is basically no class one want operate it
It was designed to operate on the Great Plains, not in the mountains.
As of writing this comment, it has just been announced that 1225 will be returning to excursion service for the holiday season!
B&LE 643 is getting a cosmetic restoration by Age of steam roundhouse
0:06 can be restored, but needs a new boiler.
0:15 1225 just returned to service
0:20 I don’t know what condition it is in.
0:27 1551 is actually scheduled to be restored
0:34 bruh where the heck would 9000 run?
0:41 4079 is actually being restored
1225 will return to operation. It's currently just undergoing mechanical repairs.
Great to know.
Where are you gonna run the 9000?????
Canadian Pacific 4-4-4 Jubilees in America really But LMS Jubilees okay this is Confusing and very Interesting but that,s for now.
2:54 That’s Canadian National 5703 disguised as 5700. The real 5700 got scrapped back in the 1960’s.
Pee Marquette 1225 is operational now.
Hey, sl regarding nkp 170 I also wish she would be restored, however after thoroughly investigating, her boiler is extremely thin, and you woukd have to fully recast it to get it good again, (or idk, add more steel onto it, im not a train mechanic IDK)
As with any project like this it needs a king’s ransom in money to return a locomotive to steam. Then there is the maintenance of said project.
Let’s face it there isn’t the money for basic preventive maintenance on those locomotives in store or on display now.
And as time progresses the skills needed to restore and maintain those already running are dying out.
Where can UP's 4-12-2 operate if restored? Are all of the drive wheels flanged? Will UP take it home and restore it as they did with 4014, 3985, the 4-8-4?
The two pairs of center drive wheels are blind, I believe. Also, this would be a 3 or 4 million dollar project, at least. Where would that money come from?
@@larryc8568 Thank you. Makesense to have no flanges there. From where did the money come for 4014?
4014's restoration came out of UP's own pocket, since they were going to use her in excursion service, as a (bigger) replacement for 3985.
@@kristoffermangila I understood that 4014 was restored at the request of a wealthy donor who funded the entire project because he or she wanted to see a Big Boy run.
Just awfull jumpin music completely unnecessary Ruins a great post
Hello Local former Pittsburgh resident here! Funny thing about 643 is that she was restored to run in the 90's But CSX Would not let her run because she was to big. Sadly the man who owned her passed and the P&LE was sold fully to CSX Where 643 resided inside the P&LE Shops in Mkeesrocks. After a snow storm caused the shed in 2009 to FALL ON HER She was moved to where she sat then. she is the most wasted potential of steam railroading ever. instead used for me to climb on as a kid growing up. good memories of mine but still sad she never got her chance
Thanks for this video. Interesting locomotives. I believe it's important to get them under cover ... either in a shed or at least a roof over them. I've seen many locos that were once easily restored left out in the weather turn into a rusting hulk that was way too expensive to restore. With the cost of restoration as it is, a roof over them is an investment.
CN 1551 is a potential restoration to operation candidate, because it is on the Age of Steam Roundhouse’s list of locomotives to be restored to operation in the future. Also, GTW 4070 is already being worked on to be restored to operation.
1:25 I agree with this one, it’s one of my favorite PRR steam locomotives
lotta mistakes in your video.
I live in Worthington OH,just down the street from the railway salvage yard that they call a museum. It is shameful that corporate funding can't be obtained to preserve some of these engines. We have multi million dollar businesses here locally that could help. Unfortunately they just don't care. 😢
As I understand it, PM 1225 is being converted to oil and will be back on line in 2024.
My special needs son recommends that instead of converting it to oil 🛢 they use torrefied biomass instead.
Actually? Darn
WAIT WHAT THERE CONVERTING 1225 TO BURN OIL NOOOOOO
@@ETHANTHEGOAT33 What’s so bad about 1225 being converted to burn oil?
C&O Allegheny 1604 at B&O Museum in Baltimore...
i have news i dont think cp 2929 will ever come back to service she is in really poor bad condition from being outside for years and years 592 might have a chance to come back to service cause she is in really good condition 819 might come back its just UP BANNING FORGIN ENGINES ON THEIR LINES 170 MIGHT be able to be restored but she is in a little bad condition 604 same as 170 334 is in bad condition so i dont think they can come back to service UNLESS they rebuild her intirely 8380 is in poor condition so i dont think she can get restored 643 is in really poor condition like 2929 so i dont think she can either 328 has a chance to go into good condition 490 is in good condition same as 2500 and 5700 610 is kinda in parts right now or she is in bad condition and the only possible place so she can come is if she had a intire rebuild. souther n railway 385 is in bad condition so she cant come back unless they have like a rebuild like 2101 or 2102 did 578 has a chance to come back same as 29. NYC 2933 can come back easily cause they kept her in really good condition. btw this is all my opinion if they can come back to operation
The Bessemer and Lake Erie loco got my attention. The B&LE was a U.S. Steel railroad whose only purpose was to transport iron ore from Conneaut to the mills near Pittsburgh. Today, it's owned by the CN. Once the Edgar Thompson plant is closed down the railroad line will be closed and abandoned.
1225 is currently undergoing a much needed rebuild. It should be running again in a few years.
Isn't she operating for 2023 winter season?
Actually After The 2021 Season 1225 Was Out Of Service For Some Heavy Repairs And New Drive Wheels And Shoes Needed New Ones It Took About A Through Out 2022 And Late 2023 And Is Back In Service
You should add to the list the Allegeny too. Norfolk and Western need to rebuilt the Y6b series again. The Y6b, Allegeny and DM&IR 2-8-8-4 are the real competitor to The Big Boy 4014. (Sorry if my sentences have some grammatical mistake because English is not my mother tounge mother?
oh I would love to see the Allegheny h8 return to service but there are only 2 left and one is in no shape or form going to be able to be restored and the other is inside and would take an effort to move mountains to get it out if they even allow the transfer to happen from the henry ford village in the first place, but that said where would you run it the thing is a monster with a boiler rated at 8000 hp and said to be the biggest boiler ever put on a locomotive save for maybe the s1, the y6b and 1218 yea I could see that if you get a good drive behind it aside all the money factors and wishes, but if we can build stuff from scratch, the the wiscasset watervill and farmington engines in new england and scratch build the prr t1 there is not much we could not do, seems though as far as experimental projects there is a real lack of will from people in the usa yet in the uk and mackwell the continue pushing the envolope even though with some of the builds it is a blank canvas to put all the advancements porta came up with togather in one, it is however a matter of very expensive money to do the research and making of the parts for advanced exaust or a gas maker firebox, though the use of rifled or corrugated boiler tubes that would add even more effecency and perhaps power could be viable though more expensive.
Under NO circumstances should they rebuild a Y6b
@@Jeisr4207-bc5ui why is that we could always use more examples of running steam though there is only soo much to go around for resources even in this great big nation of ours
@@manga12 We already have a Y6a still around, and that’s that
@@Jeisr4207-bc5ui I thought you ment making the y6b run again, that would be a massive undertaking as well, and they were made I think more for lower end high power pulling so speed might not be their forte for mainline running on power, would be nice to see 614 and 1218 run again though, though the 1218 would be a massive undertaking gathering up all the parts, or remaking what needed done, though its not like we are incapable of doing it it just a matter of money and time, but I would really love to see a b and o t3 be made, they didn't save any of them and it was the last to have a fire on the very first common carrior railroad, and there are like no running mountain class locos in the usa, but it would be a massive undertaking I am sure they have all the drawings at mount clare though or in california, though all the guys that worked on them are pretty much extinct though I think I know one in garrett here that worked during the era in the roundhouse thats still alive that was my dads cousins dad but he is really old and I am not sure how much longer he would have or how much he remembers, if only our town had enough to be able to buy the one that was offered it by the b and o but they could not and all the t3s were cut up I think in ohio, though I found written story of them taking things apart like the drive rods and pipes in garrett in the yard, we were the last bastion of active steam on the baltimore and ohio to my knowlege half way to chicago from willard, and had soo much history here including the biggest roundhouse for 12 years till it was cut almost in half in the depression but still 18 bays actually two days from now the 25 of november 1963 they announced the roundhouse was to be torn down, and that was finsihed january 23 1964 they left one pit and runthough track though for inspecting of diesles till I think 1968 when it says in the historical society books that the last remenents of the roundhouse were torn down, sarry the massive discourse, but its something I would love to see but dont have anyware near deep enough pockets to attempt, though I do vol in the shop with nkp 765 and learned much about the parts and how to clean the engine which is a massive job in of its self just the firebox alone, takes a few hours to take out the 5 sets of nine firebricks that make up the brick arch then scraping all the ash out of the grates and clinkers, to dump then prob another hour or 2 for blowing out all 200 something pipes and flues. and drilling out and inspecting the staybolts.and scooping out all the ash and remaining clinker from the smokebox yea its a dirty good time.
Okay first of all, this is my version of the steam locomotive that would be restored because in this video it sometimes makes a tiny 0 sense for all of them to run again. remember how you can't rebuild everything?
So here's my list:
1. Pere Marquette 1225
2. Norfolk & Western 1218 (Basically like Christopher Kovacs said in part 3 of Jim van der Kolk's Top 20 Favorite Steam Locomotives Video that it's not to big of a nightmare, it would be possible to restore it if you throw enough money on it, and many of the missing parts can be remade)
3. Norfolk & Western 2156 (If it gets a new frame cast)
4. Chicago, Burlington, & Quincy 3003 (Because we need a US 4-6-4 Hudson running an excursion service)
5. Frisco 1522 (one of only 4-8-2 Mountain-Types to have been in excursion in North America. The others being Canadian National 6060 and 6043, and Illinois Central 2613 which is extinct)
6. Southern Pacific 4460 (if enough funds are raised so it will run again)
7. Texas & Pacific 610 (It is the only 2-10-4 that have operated in excursions, but hopefully someday it might make a comeback)
8. Southern Pacific 5021 (If it gets a new cylinder or frame casted because when it was being moved back to the Rail Giants Train Museum (Los Angeles Country Fair plex), It damaged those 2 parts that I mentioned earlier, and we need a 4-10-2 in an excursion service one of those days) and Canadian Pacific 3001 (Because it is one of only 2 CP 4-8-4 left in the world)
9. Santa Fe 5000 "Madame Queen" (we need another 2-10-4 in excursion service)
10. Santa Fe 5011 (Same I said with ATSF 5000)
11. Bessemer & Lake Erie 643 (Same thing with 5000 and 5011 maybe after it's cosmetic restoration, display for a few years, and when the Ohio Central Railroad reopens again) and Canadian National 5700 (They should restore it so it will be one of the CN 4-6-4s to run again)
12. Western Pacific 334 (They should use it for excursions at a tourist railroad somewhere in California, and it should be another WP steam locomotive in excursion just like 0-6-0 #165) and Boston & Maine 410 (They should restore because it is one of only 2 surviving B&M 0-6-0s left in the entire world)
13. Union Pacific 3206 (It needs to be the first UP 4-6-2 in excursions) and Canadian National 6400 (Since it's the only preserved streamlined Canadian 4-8-4 Confederation in Canada, It deserves a chance to run again)
14. Nickel Plate Road 170 (It should be another 4-6-4 in excursions), Frisco 4500 (Needs to be restored by the Oklahoma Heritage Railway Association after they're done with Baldwin 2-6-2 Praire #207, and 4524 (If the St. Louis Steam Train Association is coming back, then they should restore it after they're done with 1522 if it gets new parts casted even though it is possible for this locomotive to run again)
15. Cotton Belt 819 (They should restore it so UP may allow it to run on their mainline), and Western Maryland 202 (Because it is one of only 2 surviving WM steam locomotives, then they should restore it maybe at the Potomac Eagle Scenic Railroad in West Virginia)
16. Grand Trunk Western 6323 and 6325 (6323 should be purchased by a different railroad association so it will be used for mainline excursions, and 6325 should run again on the Ohio Central Railroad if it reopens again)
17. Santa Fe 3450 (They should restore it so it would be used for mainline excursions at a railroad association), 5931 (It needs to be the 2-10-4 Selkirk to run in Canada), and CP 2929 (It needs to be the 4-4-4 jubilee to run again)
18. New York Central 3001 (It has to be one of the NYC steamers to run in excursion service), 6721 (It needs to be one of the first steam locomotives of the Adirondack Railroad in Utica, NY), and 5780 (It should run on the Arcada & Attica Railroad)
19. Pennsylvania Railroad 460 (It should run along side 1361 and owned by the Railroader's Memorial Music for Mainline excursions), 6755 (It has to be another 4-8-2 to run again by different railroad association), and 4483 (They should run it on a tourist railroad that can handle gentle curves)
19. Baltimore & Ohio 4500 and 5300 (They need to be one of the first B&O Steamer that has to run in excursions in the preservation era)
20. Grand Trunk Western 8380 (It needs to be the first ever 0-8-0 to run in the preservation era) and Virginian #4 (They need to restore it so it will be the only Virginian steam locomotive in excursions since it is the ONLY one left IN THE ENTIRE WORLD) and Delaware, Lackawanna, & Western Railroad 952 (It should be the 3rd camelback locomotive to run in excursions at the Cape May Seashore Lines, Tuckahoe, NJ.)
there is a hudson already operating, CP 2816
NKP 170 can not run because it has a thin boiler
@@tunnel6334 IK, but maybe if the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad purchases the locomotive, it maybe able to have a chance of running again. That way, we would have another NKP a US 4-6-4 Hudson operating again that all lot of us do a don’t know this, ATSF 3460 Class 4-6-4 3463 is currently being restored by the Coalition for Sustainable Rail to operating condition.
I agree I would love to see these steam locomotive being restored to operating condition oneday in the future
0:27 The Age of Steam Roundhouse announced that 1551 is one of the potential engines to be restored to operational condition after 19. The latter is now nearly finished.
1:09 6000 is a great experimental engine but only when burning coal, not to mention that it would be a general nightmare to maintain.
I don’t care how much money it takes or how long it takes but they need to restore
New York Central 2933 in my opinion
*Perlman has been summoned*
@@GoofyVirginian630 "I WANT THAT STEAM ENGINE"
I absolutely agree. After all, it is one of only two surviving New York Central 4-8-2s, and one of maybe about five New York Central steam locomotives left altogether, all of which are on display. So they should definitely restore 2933 to operation because I think it truly deserves to run again.
@@jctrainz Run it on former NYC tracks
Show pearlman who's boss
2:19 How the heck are we going to restore that?
Hampton and Branchville 44
be nice to see them all in service every railroad needs a mascot locomotive
So here's my take on this video. I think the B&O 2-8-2 #4500 would be a more appropriate and conventional steam engine to restore for excursion service on the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad. The CPR 2929 would be better off sold to a railroad museum in Canada where it belongs, because it is a Canadian steam engine, and not an American one. The Southern Railway 2-8-0 #385 could be restored as well, but being a relatively small engine, it would fit in perfectly with pulling excursion trains at either the Kentucky Railway Museum in New Haven, KY, or the Stone Mountain Scenic Railroad near Atlanta, GA. Finally, if the PRR 2-8-0 #7688 were restored to operational condition, then it would be right at home pulling excursions at the National Railroad Historic Site in Scranton, PA.
Most of those engines could not pull enough cars to pay for the insurance in this day and age. Restore an 0-6-0? Once you restore it what do you have? The idea of restoring a lot of those Locomotives is "rail buffonery" for people who stand around and take pictures.
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1401 was put into place and the museum building was built around it. I think that the Southern looked into that.
I found a steam locomotive that should be restored in Washington Courthouse, Ohio.
Lemme guess, its one of the C&O Kanawha, right? Well, its not gonna run, for one, the local government do not want it to leave, and more importantly, its firebox grates were removed in the '80s - to be used on Pere Marquette 1225.
@@kristoffermangila I don't know the title or the exact type of it, but I do know that it's a tender engine.
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Where is Yellow stone steam locomotive?
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It was nice to see C&O 490 run again 3:48
Don’t forget Chessie System 2101
It's in too bad a shape, I'm afraid. The insides are badly damaged from the late 70s. 2100 is being restored to operation though!
the 2101 is going to be restored and is undergoing operational restoration right because I saw the video of it being moved to the shops a d I just want to know if it’s cosmetic or operational restorations
@@sarahendrix6842 2101 is being cosmetically restored.
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2317 is being evaluated for restoration to service last I mentioned if it isn’t the one with the cracked frame
3254 had the cracked frame
@@frankclemence1681 3254s frame isn’t cracked it’s bent
2317s tender has a rusty frame i mean maybe it can be restored but they are restoring 3713
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To all of you who don't like the music: You need to creat your own videos on your own channel. That way you can all do everything right!!
You just like to spend and waste other people's money! They are sweet to see running but to much time and money to keek running!
Gtw 4070 is being restored to operation
I've read that we have around 150 steam locomotives in at least occasional operation in the USA. That should be enough, as there's at least one of every widely used wheel arrangement, so anyone can see one if they wish. Maybe the available zeal and money would be better used to build a replica of the Graf Zeppelin in time for the centenary of the Weltflug of 1929.
Canadian Pacific number 29 cannot be restored to running condition is impossible can only be used for static display. It was burned in a shed fire a few years back and to much of it was distroyed to ever be brought back. To restore this locomotive you would totally have to remanufacter the entire engine it is beyond repair.