With the news of how the AH will work in Global release " Gear obtained from instanced content such as Co-op Dungeons and Guild Raids are also not eligible to be listed in the Auction House." It would appear that way of making Lucent is out for Global.
If i don't have a static group or guild for my alts, is it still profitable to make alts ? How would you go around doing things if you were in my place ? Thanks for answering.
how much should I invest into my alts on launch? Should I just get the bare minimum that is required to join the group dungeons? Should I go for purple waepons at all or chill on blue forever? I guess once T2 gets released I would have to push these alts a bit further so they are able to farm that t2 gear
@@Miele__ similar he said, bro definitely didn't go outside and work, how the fck can you compare grinding in game with working IRL!!! if I work 8 hours straight can I compare this really to 8 Hours Straight IN GAME Grinding xD, deluluuuu
@@smoothvblack3496 he made a good point tho, but at the end it depends on how stable ur financial situation is(to be able to spend in game), so idk why you got so mad on him calling him a child, kid and that he needs to grow up lol.. I think people like you should grow up ;)
I don't get it I'm from the Philippines and the game is already officially launched for most of SEA region so why play on Amazon's NA servers and suffer from almost 200 ping when Asia servers are already globally available.
FYI if you're from the Philippines, your ping in NA West is around 120. 200+ is only if you go to NA East, which you shouldn't. If you even lower ping, you go to JP. You can see the english localization in KR is pretty horrendous atm, half the stuff that comes out every update is in korean still and google translate isn't always the best. You're more than free to stay on KR, but just know that majority are going to leave for the Amazon launch. Some people like myself are gonna maintain our characters just to test new content when it comes out.
You forgot to mention theres a limited amouny of times you can sell an item per week to make an item into a litograph i think they only allow it twice per item bc of the materials are on a weekly cd (the ink). Same with the extract trait stones you only have a limited amount per week you can extract traits and put it on the AH so you have to pick carefully to maximize and you limit how much lucent you can make.
As f2p start play in hyperboost, i gain 1600 lucent just selling item, mostly trait or that red blue yellow stone. I guess that kinda ok if you ask me 😊 But it also thank to hyperboost token, if in main server..idk if i can get that lucent amount. Just sitting on t1 dungeon and still never touch t2 bcoz i lazy to learn mech 😂
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this is exactly like LoA just less alts but same amount of time in game 20k tokens x3 farm and sell 9 dungeons between all chars farm and sell gvg events grind/ overworld dungeon grind. hahaha ffs so glad I found a guild already for NA launch. Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in. Thank goodness I don't get FOMO.. Wait what's that a new way to make lucent you say?! ok gotta go xD
What about the gear on the said alts? Being in quest greens and blues untraited has to be a pain to run dungeons everyday, even with a static. At first it's better to trait them full blue or sell everything you find that has good traits? I would tend to sell all the epics but fully upgrade the blue gear if I need the traits, what do you think?
It's up to each party to decide if they want to start keeping gear or when they decide to build up CP to do T2 dungeons. If everybody in the static knows the mechanics, the dungeon will go smooth. If they wanna take it to the next level, just have 4 Xbow DPS.
@@Xolem49 Yessir, and some blues like the quest set you get for more dps. Now that they make it so easy to level up skills, the dungeons are a joke as long as you know the mechs.
@@LittleFattyGaming u mentioned that ud be stuck on the t2 pieces if u bought them early. is that even true with unlock stones? or are u assuming we wont have them on EU release
@@GOGOGOTKM They wouldn't be stuck on it forever, no. But you generally don't want to equip a piece before you've upgraded the traits on it a bit, since a T1 variant with full traits would just be better. Not to mention, before they raised the CP req for t2 dungeons, we were able to do them at minimum as long as the party knew the mechanics. As soon as people hit that 2.5k req, they'll hit the ground running when it comes to farming T2 dungeons, so the gap wont be as huge as some people might assume.
TLDR: Hinder your own progression by selling the valuable and good traits to whales (for a "premium") and always be atleast 1 step behind them, while working 3 times as hard and when actually "catching up" in the lategame, be suprised that the next patch (including new gear and progression) comes out and repeat the process whilst never be able to enjoy the gear and game like the whale does.
People here failed to understand that most whalers are smart players. They know how to maximize swiping and grinding materials. Alot of top 1 players in KR believe it or not are P2W players. These players know how to utilize swiping and grinding efficiently. They climb to the top alot faster than F2P players for that reason. You can tell yourself "Ohh I am stronger than P2W players" but in reality ur not the CP difference is huge u will barely see a swiper / hard core grinder in the same field as you maybe in PvP but they are already mostly working on there 5k CP gear while u still on ur 2.5k CP. Trust me u can believe all u want that u are in the same lv as P2W players but in reality ur not. U all failed to realize that P2W players are dumb players who just swipe carelessly but u all dead wrong. Those top 10 players in KR are P2W players and also hard core grinders.
@@Lawrencezo that's the thing. Who cares about whales spending and getting that "5K" cp and still getting owned by a group of 3-4k cp players in a ZvZ scenario.
Hence the "you'll outpace spenders that dont grind." and the "you wont be able to be even with whales, but you'll catch up eventually" because gear is still capped. Runes are heavy challenge dungeon grind. Why I also say that it doesn't matter if someone whales to hit 5k CP when your whole guild is on average 3.5-4k AND RISING. Everything you said I've already mentioned and tackled in the video. And yes, the few whales that actually grind will surpass you quick. I don't think anybody needed you to explain that. You might as well have told people 1+1 is more than 1.
@@LittleFattyGaming Hence why most F2P players are still delusional when they think that they are in the same lv as a whale P2W players who grinds the game LMAO!!. Look at the top kill rankings all those guys are P2W players and also a hardcore grinders. Mind you videos like this will help P2W players more to maximize their grinding options by fully utilizing this method of grinding. Saying that F2P players are always gonna be playing catch up to those top elite P2W players tht knows how to grind.
WRONG! these microtransaction is what allows a Free to Play game to be FREE for broke bums. Oh wait... you expect NC Soft to spend millions of dollars and years of labor to develop a game that you can play completely for free? Wow, entitled much?
@@Lawrencezo nope , the end game gear is T2 set right now , there is no higher cap then T2 gear set . You can get it everywhere now especially after the update.., maybe u not grind enough to get the end game equipment
@@tenebb Basically this. Lawerncezo is misunderstanding a very crucial part of progression: There's a hard cap. People who grind will inevitably catch up. You cant whale out parchments or runes either, and the same grinders will be able to progress hard. The only valid argument he has had so far is "you won't catch up with the spenders that also hardcore grind." But I mean, duh. No kidding, right? I never said you'd be able to out-Lucent the people who are whales and grinders at the same time. Mostly because that's common sense. But a hardcap will be reached eventually, that is a fact.
@@LittleFattyGaming LMAO u can literally buy runes off the cash shop with battle pass and bonus bundles each month. Parchment is so easy to farm in open world dungeons also having solent bonus stats for grind farming is alot easier and gains more advantage. Paying for it solent bonus features for $10 a month greatly benefits P2W players. The thing that I don't know if you realize there's a thing called "NEW EXPANSION" where they increase the lv cap, new gears, new maps, new materials to farm. And mind you that is happening soon. So yea there's no hard cap for people who spends money lol. For sure for F2P players there is a major HARD cap with the endless brainless grind they have to do just to reach the top of the ladder.
Can currency and equipment be exchanged between main and secondary characters?
You can sell items on your main. and buy it on your Alt to transfer currency.
Lucent is shared between all your characters on the same account. You'll have to use your alt's income for your main since gear storage is not shared.
How soon would you say to make an alt? Do it as soon as I hit 50 on my main or wait a few days?
as soon as you can without missing out on events on your main at 50
With the news of how the AH will work in Global release " Gear obtained from instanced content such as Co-op Dungeons and Guild Raids are also not eligible to be listed in the Auction House." It would appear that way of making Lucent is out for Global.
Extract traits = sell traits.
What would you suggest on how to sell traits, use trait extraction stones or the lithograph way?
You're gonna have to extract them
If i don't have a static group or guild for my alts, is it still profitable to make alts ? How would you go around doing things if you were in my place ? Thanks for answering.
Random queues work too since you get bonus stats for doing it.
so u have to lvl up total 3 lvl 50 chars n gear em up for these dung runs? sounds like alot of work to me
It's light work if you compare it to Lost Ark
how much should I invest into my alts on launch? Should I just get the bare minimum that is required to join the group dungeons? Should I go for purple waepons at all or chill on blue forever?
I guess once T2 gets released I would have to push these alts a bit further so they are able to farm that t2 gear
You can slowly raise them up to be able to do T2, but you want to sell all the high value traits early on wen they're at their most expensive.
Right, but how are you supposed to post things on auction house if your lucent is 0?
you dont need lucent to post it.
On average with these grind hard methods, how much lucent you get per month?
Fully depends on your server's economy and the traits you drop on equipment pieces you get from runs.
20k tokens goes away in 1.5 hours, what to do after, where to farm lucent when you don’t have tokens ?
Farm your alts tokens, and if those are out, farm overworld. Once you start doing challenge dungeons you won't have any downtime anymore.
Or you can spend this time working and simply buy lucents xD
I know you still a child but you will grow up one day have a nice trip kid
Grinding IRL vs grinding in game are pretty similar, but you can be proud of the former lol
@@Miele__ similar he said, bro definitely didn't go outside and work, how the fck can you compare grinding in game with working IRL!!! if I work 8 hours straight can I compare this really to 8 Hours Straight IN GAME Grinding xD, deluluuuu
@@smoothvblack3496 he made a good point tho, but at the end it depends on how stable ur financial situation is(to be able to spend in game), so idk why you got so mad on him calling him a child, kid and that he needs to grow up lol.. I think people like you should grow up ;)
@@NeelixMaster Sounds more like as if you don't like your job
Keep mking TNL videos
I don't get it I'm from the Philippines and the game is already officially launched for most of SEA region so why play on Amazon's NA servers and suffer from almost 200 ping when Asia servers are already globally available.
FYI if you're from the Philippines, your ping in NA West is around 120. 200+ is only if you go to NA East, which you shouldn't. If you even lower ping, you go to JP.
You can see the english localization in KR is pretty horrendous atm, half the stuff that comes out every update is in korean still and google translate isn't always the best. You're more than free to stay on KR, but just know that majority are going to leave for the Amazon launch. Some people like myself are gonna maintain our characters just to test new content when it comes out.
You forgot to mention theres a limited amouny of times you can sell an item per week to make an item into a litograph i think they only allow it twice per item bc of the materials are on a weekly cd (the ink). Same with the extract trait stones you only have a limited amount per week you can extract traits and put it on the AH so you have to pick carefully to maximize and you limit how much lucent you can make.
The video I just released expands more on what to do with gear that you get from this farming
As f2p start play in hyperboost, i gain 1600 lucent just selling item, mostly trait or that red blue yellow stone. I guess that kinda ok if you ask me 😊 But it also thank to hyperboost token, if in main server..idk if i can get that lucent amount. Just sitting on t1 dungeon and still never touch t2 bcoz i lazy to learn mech 😂
You'll earn more in main servers at launch because people will pay more. As long as you grind for it, you're all good to go.
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what class nova
this is exactly like LoA just less alts but same amount of time in game 20k tokens x3 farm and sell 9 dungeons between all chars farm and sell gvg events grind/ overworld dungeon grind. hahaha ffs so glad I found a guild already for NA launch. Just when I thought I was out they pull me back in. Thank goodness I don't get FOMO.. Wait what's that a new way to make lucent you say?! ok gotta go xD
No worries, you'll still be relevant in castle sieges as long as you play a meta-class.
What about the gear on the said alts? Being in quest greens and blues untraited has to be a pain to run dungeons everyday, even with a static.
At first it's better to trait them full blue or sell everything you find that has good traits? I would tend to sell all the epics but fully upgrade the blue gear if I need the traits, what do you think?
It's up to each party to decide if they want to start keeping gear or when they decide to build up CP to do T2 dungeons. If everybody in the static knows the mechanics, the dungeon will go smooth. If they wanna take it to the next level, just have 4 Xbow DPS.
@@LittleFattyGaming So quest greens is fine if the party knows the mechanics then, alright thanks a lot.
@@Xolem49 Yessir, and some blues like the quest set you get for more dps. Now that they make it so easy to level up skills, the dungeons are a joke as long as you know the mechs.
@@LittleFattyGaming u mentioned that ud be stuck on the t2 pieces if u bought them early. is that even true with unlock stones? or are u assuming we wont have them on EU release
@@GOGOGOTKM They wouldn't be stuck on it forever, no. But you generally don't want to equip a piece before you've upgraded the traits on it a bit, since a T1 variant with full traits would just be better.
Not to mention, before they raised the CP req for t2 dungeons, we were able to do them at minimum as long as the party knew the mechanics. As soon as people hit that 2.5k req, they'll hit the ground running when it comes to farming T2 dungeons, so the gap wont be as huge as some people might assume.
first again
Undefeated
This guy is destroying the market already..
Nah not everybody has the willpower to grind 😂
TLDR: Hinder your own progression by selling the valuable and good traits to whales (for a "premium") and always be atleast 1 step behind them, while working 3 times as hard and when actually "catching up" in the lategame, be suprised that the next patch (including new gear and progression) comes out and repeat the process whilst never be able to enjoy the gear and game like the whale does.
You might want to rewatch the video again, you seem to have missed a pretty crucial part.
LF transitioning to full time TH-camr and no more livestream?
Nah im still streaming just uploading videos leading to launch
People here failed to understand that most whalers are smart players. They know how to maximize swiping and grinding materials. Alot of top 1 players in KR believe it or not are P2W players. These players know how to utilize swiping and grinding efficiently. They climb to the top alot faster than F2P players for that reason. You can tell yourself "Ohh I am stronger than P2W players" but in reality ur not the CP difference is huge u will barely see a swiper / hard core grinder in the same field as you maybe in PvP but they are already mostly working on there 5k CP gear while u still on ur 2.5k CP. Trust me u can believe all u want that u are in the same lv as P2W players but in reality ur not. U all failed to realize that P2W players are dumb players who just swipe carelessly but u all dead wrong. Those top 10 players in KR are P2W players and also hard core grinders.
doesn't matter, they can't 1 vs guild anyway
@@tsuyax6054 who the hell 1 vs a guild anyway? Lol are you delusional lol?
@@Lawrencezo that's the thing. Who cares about whales spending and getting that "5K" cp and still getting owned by a group of 3-4k cp players in a ZvZ scenario.
Hence the "you'll outpace spenders that dont grind." and the "you wont be able to be even with whales, but you'll catch up eventually" because gear is still capped. Runes are heavy challenge dungeon grind.
Why I also say that it doesn't matter if someone whales to hit 5k CP when your whole guild is on average 3.5-4k AND RISING. Everything you said I've already mentioned and tackled in the video.
And yes, the few whales that actually grind will surpass you quick. I don't think anybody needed you to explain that. You might as well have told people 1+1 is more than 1.
@@LittleFattyGaming Hence why most F2P players are still delusional when they think that they are in the same lv as a whale P2W players who grinds the game LMAO!!. Look at the top kill rankings all those guys are P2W players and also a hardcore grinders. Mind you videos like this will help P2W players more to maximize their grinding options by fully utilizing this method of grinding. Saying that F2P players are always gonna be playing catch up to those top elite P2W players tht knows how to grind.
how are people playing?? who do i need to stab?
Here you go brother: th-cam.com/video/VksUqymo1ws/w-d-xo.html
If you're in SEA just use your country when it asks you when registering.
Not if the spender also does this. Do not support companies with microtransactions.
WRONG! these microtransaction is what allows a Free to Play game to be FREE for broke bums.
Oh wait... you expect NC Soft to spend millions of dollars and years of labor to develop a game that you can play completely for free? Wow, entitled much?
im F2P but my equip is the same as spenders 😊
Lol probably not a spender. Cuz u will get melted in PvP if u go toe to toe with a real P2W players / hardcore grinders. Keep living the Lala land lol
@@Lawrencezo nope , the end game gear is T2 set right now , there is no higher cap then T2 gear set . You can get it everywhere now especially after the update.., maybe u not grind enough to get the end game equipment
@@tenebb Basically this. Lawerncezo is misunderstanding a very crucial part of progression: There's a hard cap.
People who grind will inevitably catch up. You cant whale out parchments or runes either, and the same grinders will be able to progress hard.
The only valid argument he has had so far is "you won't catch up with the spenders that also hardcore grind." But I mean, duh. No kidding, right? I never said you'd be able to out-Lucent the people who are whales and grinders at the same time. Mostly because that's common sense. But a hardcap will be reached eventually, that is a fact.
@@tenebb Are you top 5 in kill Ranking in PvP?
@@LittleFattyGaming LMAO u can literally buy runes off the cash shop with battle pass and bonus bundles each month. Parchment is so easy to farm in open world dungeons also having solent bonus stats for grind farming is alot easier and gains more advantage. Paying for it solent bonus features for $10 a month greatly benefits P2W players. The thing that I don't know if you realize there's a thing called "NEW EXPANSION" where they increase the lv cap, new gears, new maps, new materials to farm. And mind you that is happening soon. So yea there's no hard cap for people who spends money lol. For sure for F2P players there is a major HARD cap with the endless brainless grind they have to do just to reach the top of the ladder.