Wisconsin Gen Z voters discuss their top election issues of 2024
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- 538's Galen Druke speaks to young voters in Wisconsin about the cost of living, President Joe Biden's age and the Israel-Hamas war.
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I’d be interested to hear how the non college educated gen z crowd feels as opposed to hearing the opinions on what college educated gen zers think about them.
Well just graduated high school and we are very liberal but we are also from central NJ so 🤷♂️
Also minority Gen Zers.
@@PremierCCGuyMMXVISpeak for yourself. Most non college gen zers in North Jersey I have found love Trump.
I want to say thanks to the participants in sharing their opinions and participating in a discussion.
Gen Z is less Democratic? Can we get a crosstab on that for college education and gender?
... And not a focus group of just college kids?
are you talking about the Dem party, or democracy in general?
I think they were saying that in the context of the two-way polling for Trump vs Biden.
They referenced a poll with a larger sample size that shows the Gen Z Democratic support evaporating.
Not sure what timeframe the poll was from, but different things could be affecting that, ie. Gaza, economic issues, Biden's age, etc.
Idk if they polled for Democrat vs Republican in general to see the difference if any either, but that would be another place to look.
Well, the RNC addressed exactly 0 of these issues over 3 days.
But what forgien policy besides cuddling with despots did, Trump even do?
Well he's the first president in 50 years not to start a war so thats nice. He took office with on the brink of war with N. Korea, and by the end he went into N Korea without any security detail. The Abraham peace accords were amazing dialing down tension in the middle east. He deterred Russia from doing squat, while under Biden, Obama, Bush, and Clinton Russia was extremely aggressive and even took territory.
@@crankydragon World peace.
@@ningxiawolfberry didn't happen...even if it did it's not the way to go about. And it's not like you can even back your claim up. It doesn't take a whole lot to figure out that, Trump is a traitor that would sell us out for a shiny object. Not a quality object.....just a shiny one.
@@ningxiawolfberry It's those same people who claim we should not negotiate with terrorists will also try to make that same empty claim.
@@ningxiawolfberry As far as I'm concerned, MAGA and the Taliban.....same, they're just brown...not much else different.
I wonder what the (male) pro Trump Gen Zer thinks about Republican proposals to restore/expand the draft.
I think it's a good idea. Russia and China will come for us soon, we better be ready.
Russia and China will come for us soon, we better be ready.
Where is that coming from? Who is saying that?
@@ningxiawolfberryThe Republican Party wants to expand selective service to include females and then require all public school graduates to take the military entrance exam.
These kids are already above 97% of the populace in terms of intelligence and articulation.
Unfortunately, you are correct.
I was pleasantly surprised by how respectful the coversation was from both the left-leaning and right-leaning kids, that they (and Galen) listened without any overt judgement to whomever was speaking. That’s something I see too little of in social media comment sections.
Really, they seem very misinformed. They believe lies that the media and politicians propagate.
Intelligence among people is declining actually.
what are you talking about, "just about everything" isn't an answer, there is no point. I mean they are articulating they are know nothing. intelligence? lol
The guy in the middle needs to do his research 😮
Lol. I think you actually need to do your research. Liberals are so funny.
Have they read Project 2025? That is the only issue now. To stop the implementation of 2025 as the new American constitution.
so you want more government and bureaucracy?
Why? It's great.
Fearmongering
The 180 the GOP has done with respect to foreign policy is remarkable. As recently as 2012 every Republican candidate/Convention speech was still praising the legacy of Ronald Reagan, Obama practically laughed off Romney's concerns about Putin, and now it seems like Joe Biden is a closer to Ronald Reagan (Foreign policy only) than Trump
TThis discussion needs to be more balanced since you have a young advocate who stands to benefit. It is silly that you did not screen the fact that he works for a candidate, and his commentary is replete with talking points.
Just by looking at the trio i guess correctly who was gonna support who, but gdi the Trump supporter is a foreign policy student . . . he must not be a very good one if he can look at Trump as a beacon of American leadership abroad. Maybe later in this round we can see the particular issue that that has him convinced that Trump is his leader but so help me if he says Ukraine, nuclear weapons proliferation, freedom of navigation, and deterrence of a invasion of Taiwan.
what's really crazy is listening to him answer the question about "what are the biggest issues for you personally, not politically" and then present a bunch of problems democrats are trying to solve and republicans are trying to exacerbate
As a Wisconsin Gen Z voter my top issues are honesty and compassion. The right has given that up, and that's why we're losing everything tangible that is good. I too want to live in an "America that's trying." That means being curious and caring about others.
That's awesome and given the recent Supreme Court ruling on immunity, you could argue it's the most important thing to look for in a President.
I don't want to hear about race or gender, or "equity", or Alphabet people. What i do want to hear about is affordable healthcare, safe borders, more police funding, harsher prison sentences, federal jobs guarantee, raising taxes on large corporations and breaking up monopolies in tech and pharma. Once I start hearing about that maybe I'll consider voting for you. If however you make it about left cultural issues, I will vote against you.
@@rwrunning1813 Honesty and compassion? What are you talking about? Trying? Trying is intention to fail.
Dylan has drunk the Kool-aid!
I’m sure he’s more complex than that. He said he’s exposed to a lot of liberal views in college classes, but it’s possible he was raised in a very conservative home and as he’s currently staying with his grandfather probably still gets his news from right-leaning sources, and it can be very difficult and time-consuming to dissuade oneself from deeply-rooted beliefs (speaking from personal experience.)
Lol. I think biden voters have drank the Kool aid.
The level of intelligence in these kids makes me feel good about the future. The country isn't where our politics are. We are more educated and aware as individuals and its starting younger and younger. If we can just get this last old set out of the way for good. So much of Congress and politics/business at the top is filled with people that were literally grown men when MLK and JFK were assassinated. They are just holding on. Biden finally did a good thing, but the rest of the system still needs to be pushed out and let the younger adults take over. We're still letting ppl that don't even know how to properly operate the internet make decisions for a population/culture that has far surpassed them.
Oh my god imagine studying international relations and thinking Trump is a good choice because of his foreign policy 😂
I know, right? Just beyond imaginable.
ummm source?
Um Source???? lil bro????
TRUMP- ISIS Caliphate destroyed, crossing into enemy territory thus diminishing all tensions between US and North Korea, the Abraham accords, no new wars, Putin took no land. Verse
Biden - ISIS members crossing into the USA, a terrible Afghanistan withdrawal, bad trade deals, a rise in Iranian funded terrorism, The Ukrainian war, heavily disadvantaged trade alliances and agreements. Yeah, Trump was certainly worse
I was like What?
How does including someone working for a political campaign give an objective voice?
Its not objective? all three of these people are giving their opinions, thats the whole point.
Its hard to find a young voter at this point so...
Wait, no speakers in STEM?
I feel like liberal arts and humanities majors would be more likely to respond to a request to participate in a 538 panel. Lol
Great interview!
Trump said verbatim, "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore."... to the masses that stormed the capital and disrupted the peaceful transfer of power.
🤣
Even if it was an accident, he just watched it happen for 3 hours, instead of trying to stop it. He was calling the officials under siege and trying to shake them down to keep him in power, and trying to get them to go after Mike Pence. He wanted what happened to happen.
@@daaaaaave -Was Putin involved?
Trump said verbatim "Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our country. Stay Peaceful!" and "I am asking everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law and order - respect the Law and our great men and women in blue. Thank You"
@@Maximilian_IngrossoYou left out the part where the first thing he did after the violence he was watching started was to egg them on and target Pence, and then everyone had to beg him to do tell them to stop, and his staff testified that he didn’t want to mention anything about peace, and they continued to beg him for hours to tell them to leave.
I love these yungens.
The red shirt guy is the most intelligent and open minded.
I really like the guy on the far right! I think he'll go far in his career.
I was completely eye-rolling whenever he spoke. Naive but convinced of his own acumen.
Did you offer them a drink? You have one Galen.
One of them has one too... soooo. Yes.
why’s bro wearing a blazer with a tshirt lmao
okay his politics are wacky and hilarious too this is so awesome
@@hammypotato4180 lmao
@@hammypotato4180 you realize this is why dems will lose in November? Picking on the single kid voting Trump
@@elck3 I commented on him wearing a blazer and a tshirt before he even opened his mouth. Stop being goofy, idek he was voting Trump lol
dude does indeed talk like a politician....and that's not a good thing
Thanks for giving a politically underrepresented group a platform!
How do folks feel about RCV?
Riding with Biden!! No to Project 25 Vote Biden / Harris Ticket 24
PMC
Fearmongering
Shocker that the person who is completely supported by his parents financially is voting Republican and is unworried/unaffected with the economics of the country...
🤓: "Shocker that the person who is completely supported by his parents financially is voting Republican and is unworried/unaffected with the economics of the country..."
Do you know the guy?
@@theweenorman8634 damn you really got me dude
@@senoirbigboi3645 no but I listened fo the episode???
You may have missed the part where he said he’s worried about being able to support himself after college.
An old haunt of mine.
Hooray for MaFischer's! ❤
This should be interesting for a bit.
He should try a second group a couple doors over at Beans & Barley.
I wonder if he could get the this mix from the more crunchy vegan crowd.😂
It's the UW Milwaukee entertainment vibe. A couple decades ago you'd also have an option of Oriental Drugs!
Having Wisconsin native Galen on site, pays off!
My question to the trump supporter would be 'were you alive on January 6th?'
the guy in the middle is a classic example of propaganda victim.
hate to see it in real time.
I love the kid on the right. Dude is going to go far in life no matter what he chooses to do.
l is gen z and voting D
I’m scared NGL
I cant stand the guy on the right, jesus christ he's annoying
Yea, could you imagine being his father? You would never ask him a question fearing he might answer.
Shame because he clearly is the most knowledgeable of all three.
@@Lennybird91 That is completely unimpressive, even if true. I have spent enough time at "elite" universities to know that this guy is a dime a dozen. There are so many kids running around the Ivy's and Oxbridge who think they're the next president/scotus justice/whatever despite having done absolutely nothing to warrant even a fraction of the undue self confidence they have. To make matters worse, this kid goes to neither Oxbridge nor an ivy, he goes to fucking UW.
@@krystal7958 Chill out lol. He's kind of a dork. Inherited money from pappy and he's at least aware that he's breezing through life thanks to their support and not one of those "I'm here because I as such a hard worker" types.
We should hope he starts to experience real life and normalizes a bit more. The enunciation and hand gesturing was extra, but it's okay.
Imagine thinking voting matters.
👏🙈👁
Chat, are we cooked?
Edit: half way through. Yes. We are cooked.
I drifted in and out, but i felt it when the gal in the yellow jacket was frustrated over political gridlock.
She says, "were not funding our schools". Actually, record funding that isn't working.
Help me understand how the statistics specialists constantly showcase selection bias.
What was the bias here? I saw one voter against Trump, one voter for Trump, and one voter for Biden. The only way it could have been better was if they expanded the panel and added a voter against Biden or a voter for RFK, but given they just wanted 3 people, this was the most logical choice. They wanted people knowledgeable on the issues for their age, not random Joe Schmo who will likely just re-iterate talking points from either side.
Demographics of the electorate, especially when in MKE
@@JayseabeeSTL the question isn't "are these good amateur analysts?" it was "what do people your age actually care about?" And the concerns of college kids are just going to be very different from non-college kids.
Side note, 538 is getting money from right wing interests. Look it up.
Interesting, please tell me more. I think it’s being closed down. The founder is gone, website really changed. Too bad.
@@chicagomike Peter Thiel / Polymarket / political betting platform / hired Nate Silver
Nate Silver works for Polymarket now. 538 hired a new person. Thiel runs Polymarket, ABC runs 538.@@Justsomedude64
@@Justsomedude64Nate Silver is not affiliated with 538 since he was laid off by ABC.
Lol. No they don't.
lol they don’t know shit about American foreign policy
Trump 2024🇺🇸
Guns?
Versbtm podcast
At least you have video. Jesus.
This seemed to be an INCREIBLE non-representative crowd man.......
That's not possible with a group of 3
It’s not meant to be representative of the population; it’s meant to show a variety of views (from college kids.)
Wisconsin Gen Z voters would theoretically have at least half non college though....
dude in the middle is really deluded deciding to vote for trump solely to "get the foreign policy back from 4-5 years ago" you can't just go back in time lol
he's not wrong
@@nicebluejaysorry dude, wish based time travel doesnt exist
@@Austin-fc5gs obv the guy being interviewed wasnt talking literally
What _was_ the foreign policy 5 years ago? Besides Russians’ investments in Trump properties, I don’t know if he even had a policy.
@@trevinbeattie4888 it's very simple, it's called the "madman theory," yes that is literally the name of it and it can be very effective. i am not a trump voter but he employed this strategy quite successfully.
The guy who thinks he's a politician is gigacringe. The Trump guy seemed ok. The lady seemed nice but was coping in overdrive whenever she was talking about Biden, she obviously thinks he's too old and demented but is too afraid to express herself and fills her sentences with euphemisms and empty words.
I think what your referring to is legitimate fear…this isn’t acting.
Trump dude was the most deranged both of them just pissed you off because you didn’t like the points they made and that they both accurately represent people
What wars is the United States in? I am missing something?
Trump 2024
Diverse group lol
Y didn't Galen ask the Trump supporter about Trump's faculties?? Biden is doin the job now!!!
The point of this interview was to listen to these kids’ thoughts on the election issues, not to try to influence them.
Lol. You're ignorance is amazing
@GaryStahlet And u just showed urs by immediately goin to name calling bcuz u don't agree! Sounds familiar to me!!
@GaryStahlet Yea,urs is showing big time! Sad! U don't have anything intelligent say,so u name call. Smh!!
@stephaniebrooks8044 Lol. How's that border going by the way?
Ug.
Most young people (under 35) support FRK Jr.
The Wisconsin guy is just unbearable. He's like an ai that can only pull data from campaign speeches.
Why does it matter what their professors believe? Don’t they have their own ability to formulate an opinion? The focus on that is strange to me.
Middle guy is impressive.
I bet you’re not surprised that the only one with a job, and the only one who doesn’t need Ozempic, is also the only Trump supporter.
He’s a line cook only for the summer…
And she quit her good job because it was hard, and the future politician isn’t even pretending to work. There is no escaping the fact that over the last two decades the DNC has become the party of intergenerational wealth.
Our public schools have not been defunded, they have higher funding than ever before.
They just can’t educate students
I’m unable to find any sources that support that statement … or even any sources that show a clear, long-term trend on public education for more than the past couple of decades. I found one chart showing how public funding for K-12 schools changed since 2000 which varies widely by state, with a few states increasing funding and some decreasing. Another chart showed how state funding for higher education has generally decreased across the nation from 1990-2014 … as a share of general fund spending, not inflation-adjusted dollars.
He said when doing fundraising not to start at 10 smh . The middle dude doesn't saying .
Find me some gen z who have not went to a college indoctrination center.
Interesting to see all this talk about college fostering critical thinking. During the campus protests this year, we saw the exact opposite. But maybe the exception proves the rule.
Protesting against war crimes is somehow a failure of critical thinking? Could you please elaborate on this?
Its hard to express how poor your selection of people to interview was.
Aren't these people farmers and work in food production and dairy
Not anymore
These three vote on vibes over facts/policy.
This girl is so deceived
She's the only normal guest at the table
They all live at home with mom and sad
I am 69 years old. I honestly don’t understand where the younger generation got the idea that not being able to buy a home in your 20-40s was supposed to be easy! In my generation we all thought homes were super expensive and out of reach for most of us. Interest rates for homes were ALWAYS above 10% (mostly in the 12-14% range). They are now below 6%. My parents bought their first home in 1959 at 6%. I didn’t see those rates until I was 60 years old. In my life it has always been very difficult to buy a home even though I was married, university educated, good paying jobs. I just don’t think these young folks get that they are not ‘suffering’ more than their parents.
Okay but people don’t realize that this generation (my generation) has been burdened with the unequal increase that has happened with both median wages and home prices. In 2000, the median household income was $42K and the median home value was $120K which is 3x income. What has happened now is the median salary is $60K but the median home value is $400K. So it’s almost a 7x multiple versus what it was before.
Sigh -_-
Do some research man. No one said they were cheap. Tons of research on generational change on this. Maybe look into average total number of hours worked to secure a home then versus today. With more dual income households, it still doesn’t begin to account for the gap among generations.
Please know, I am just replying as a 29 year old that is doing mediocre-at-best financially, and just want to share my perspective. Not an attack on you!
The problem is that average home prices as a multiple of wages has gone way, way up. Around 1980, was something around 2-3x income. Now it is over 6x median income. This data is easy to find if you search.
Yes, there were higher interest rates historically but the cost for homes, and much else, is higher. From the late 1970s, wage stagnation has also plagued the working and much of the middle (and formerly middle) class. Those who are doing well, the highest earners, are doing much better. Not true for everyone else. An apartment in my city, a small southern New Hampshire city, is more than 50% of my monthly income on average. I'm college educated, and make over $50,000/year (and am in-line for another promotion, which will help immensely and bump my salary considerably). Sure, free trade policies of the late 20th century maybe made computers, tvs, and smartphones cheap, but the essentials aren't. Bank of America estimates we're currently in a deficit of 4 million homes. Again, my state of New Hampshire accounts for about 40,000 of those units, driving up prices in my state (hedge funds and foreign actors buying them up hasn't helped). Home ownership and wealth accumulation for millennials & gen z observably lag behind Boomer and Gen X cohorts at comparable ages.
Costs of a college education have also skyrocketed, burdening young people with a great deal of debt. I am heartened to see more of Gen Z being told there are other options instead of a college degree, that it isn't do-or-die. My post-recession cohort was told that if we weren't getting degrees, we could plan to mop floors. I went to the school that gave me the most financial aid, and I still put over 15% of my post-tax pay towards student loans, despite a great credit score and having refinanced the private loans I needed.
Not everything is worse, no. But I think for folks about my age, we are observably behind generations immediately preceding us. I don't resent the folks older than me, but I resent that we're the ones stuck reaping the consequences of bad policies from before we could even have a say. But, that's life I suppose.
@@doorsfan173 yeah but you voted for that. House prices didnt go up for no reason, all the regulation are the reason for the spike.
@@nox5555
The alternatives haven't been great. It's not like if Bush Sr. had won a 2nd term things would be sunshine and daisies right?
Dubya was terrible, and Trump's first term wasn't exactly a shining beacon on the hill.
House prices are going up because of NIMBY baboons who block new home building at every step, but safety regulations in the building codes isn't the problem.
Strict zoning rules, suburban sprawl, not allowing multi-family units, etc affect home prices much more because those are actual blockades to building more housing units.
The middle guy I think his Jewish. So he votes with Israel. His last name.
What the fuck does that even mean?
College educated gen z here to say i am centrist. First voted in ‘18 for Pritzker(IL gov race)and ‘20 voted for biden and this time(Holding my breath and taking shots after to sit with this years choices) will be voting trump. I just cant back biden as he now reminds me of my grandpa in his last few weeks..
@@LMN021 I feel like people who came of age during the Trump era don’t realize how absolutely insane he is. It’s the only explanation I can come up with for why people would vote for him because the other guy is old.
It’s not normal for a president to do so much illegal stuff and try to undermine so many basic functions of government.
How can you stomach trump?
Have you listened to Trump's ridiculous comments? Hannibal Lecter is a good guy? Sharks v boat batteries? Here's a sample quote from Trump: "AI takes literally twice the electricity that's available now in our country. Can you imagine? But instead we're spending places where they recharge electric cars." What? Tell me Trump is not in decline. And he is fascist. So, um, glad he doesn't remind you of a relative...🤷
Biden is not your Grandpa. He is the most informed person on the planet with the most powerful intelligence agencies reporting directly to him every day.
@@ALG3228what’s wrong with what Trump said about AI energy needs? It WILL require a lot of data centers that DO require a lot of energy. His point is, we are trying to add a lot of new tech that requires a LOT of energy but not planning on the stable electrical infrastructure it requires. Basically Trump should advocate we build a lot more nuclear energy plants and THEN encourage everyone to switch to electric from fossil fuels, not the other way around or try to push “renewables” that aren’t capable of providing a stable electrical base grid.
The other colorful stories you mentioned just make his speeches more interesting than the usual politician droning. Trump was talking about how unrealistic it would be to have a battery-powered yacht bc the current battery tech isn’t practical and describing the situation in a colorful way. You’re proving it was more memorable than if he had given a college lecture on battery weight and incompatibility with salt water
"College expands your world view." No, it narrows it. Your world view expands dramatically once you are out of a very left leaning educational system.
Gen Z is too gloomy. Basically a pity party.
Okay boomer
What should they be excited for in your opinion?
I'm a millennial on the younger side, so I can sort of commiserate with them, but I've got the benefit of having a few more years of work and raises.
I live with my grandfather who has a lot of money and I've never had to support myself but I'm voting for Trump because of the high cost of tattoos.
The chair of the Federal Reserve Bank that handled interest rates that lead to inflation during the pandemic, Jerome Powell, was appointed by Trump.
Biden kept him on and the inflation rate is now approaching pre-pandemic levels.
that one dude in the middle is kind of spitting facts I wonder how he tastes
How does including someone working for a political campaign give an objective voice?
they didnt find anybody else who would talk to them...
Thats why they casted a woman in her mid 30s to play Gen Z.
The point of a panel isn't to get an objective voice. They reached out to their audience and there are only so many nerds who watch 538 podcasts from the Milwaukee area willing and able to put time aside to sit down for a panel discussion.