Finishing our First Season (What's Next?) - MLB The Show 24 Franchise (Year 1) Ep.8

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  • @CadChamberlain
    @CadChamberlain 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    -4.5 Career WAR for Jo Adell makes him one of the worst players in MLB history

    • @MrHurriicaneLP
      @MrHurriicaneLP  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      I think his slugging % just cured whatever attachment/curiosity I've had the past year

  • @patriotsrock1557
    @patriotsrock1557 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    “You’re all old, just like me” lol love the series keep it up!

  • @Lunar_Shots
    @Lunar_Shots 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I personally resent that “you’re all old just like me”😂😂 gonna be 27 this year and been watching you since I was 14 my my how the time flies, great content as always brother

  • @albedo1237
    @albedo1237 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    One thing I would like to see is you playing in the style of the team. For instance, the A’s are a low budget, home grown team. The cardinals are known for trading and extending players that are about to hit free agency

  • @Dran_Kito
    @Dran_Kito 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    You should probably keep Arenado just so that you don't have to replace arguably your best every day player with a rush job or another expensive temporary placeholder.

    • @niks2392
      @niks2392 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      If he doesn't think the roster will be competitive, trading Arenado and getting a cheap one year deal/maybe a prove it deal would be way smarter. Either getting a better pick in the draft or even more value for future trades

    • @Dran_Kito
      @Dran_Kito 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@niks2392 the thing is, he can trade Arenado later in the year after a potential player has had time to develop and take his spot (assuming one is on the roster), he can keep him if they are winning and making a push, or sell him to a contender for another team's promising prospect. I think moving him in the offseason is a premature move when the guy didn't regress and can help younger guys develop.

    • @FTLnovaKid
      @FTLnovaKid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Dran_KitoProblem is how fast he regresses. And how much less you will get for him if you wait.

    • @michaelpatras9970
      @michaelpatras9970 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He’s going to regress like crazy and the team isn’t going to be a WS contender next year. Easy trade imo

  • @HaezeusYT
    @HaezeusYT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    There is a hidden “release” timing on classic pitching. Not sure if it’s been said before but to get good timing you have to push your pitch button again after you start your windup but when the pitcher is about to release the ball

  • @jaybou007
    @jaybou007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Gray and Arenado are keepers for the moment. They are cornerstones you can’t really get rid of at the moment. My take is to focus on two to four projects instead of having an entire team filled with hit or miss young guns.

    • @MickeyMo600
      @MickeyMo600 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Gray is also important because the pitching is awful and empty.

  • @paulkollars6667
    @paulkollars6667 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I'm inclined to agree with others to keep Arenado for now. Maybe look to trade a different vet for his eventual replacement. Let them develop while Arenado play out his contract.

  • @alexvandierendonck3317
    @alexvandierendonck3317 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Cutter are a pitch that is mainly used to run inside to the opposite handed batter

  • @CadChamberlain
    @CadChamberlain 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Throwing a right handed slider inside to lefties is definitely a good option

  • @griffinfuller2567
    @griffinfuller2567 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Something to remember about the Cardinals, they will spend some money to stay competitive. One of the few teams who don’t usually outright tank or give away seasons

  • @CadChamberlain
    @CadChamberlain 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This offseason should bring a bunch of guys in on one year deals. Its never a bad idea to sign some to one year deals and flip them for some prospects at the deadline. This farm system desperately needs it.

  • @SanFranFan30
    @SanFranFan30 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MLB the Show is wild, Wilmer Flores really finished the season with a .328 BA and 40 HRs.

  • @CookieGod16
    @CookieGod16 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    You're series are just too good

  • @StateoftheFranchiseGaming
    @StateoftheFranchiseGaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    SDS has stated they havent touched gameplay and honestly i dont feel theyve touched gameplay in about 2 years specifically hitting. Im okay with it as the hitting seems to be in a good place unlike the online crowd who may see otherwise. I'd like to see you adhere to Arenados' no trade clause but finding his band-aid and moving him to DH (defense permitting) so someone else can hold down 3B. With the right moves this team can be competitive in '25 and Postseason bound by '26. Nolan can be productive through age 35 as his potential presents a buffer to him completely falling off a cliff attribute wise.

  • @abhijaynmbnvbcv
    @abhijaynmbnvbcv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Ive been waiting for this for so long as a cardinals fan. Thank you for being awsome!

  • @KingKasper69
    @KingKasper69 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cutters up and in can be effective against opposite handed batters. Sinkers and circle change also have good results with the same situation

  • @nfugitt89
    @nfugitt89 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The most realistic move for Arenado would probably be letting him play another season and a half before cutting him. A trade wouldn't be too impossible (remember the Longoria to the Giants trade?) but if it happens it would have to be a pure salary dump where you get a C or D potential guy that is basically just there to have an actual trade to make

  • @TeamTipidis
    @TeamTipidis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Re: Adding Prospects to 40-Man
    If you know a prospect is Rule 5 Eligible in the coming offseason and you know you’re going to add him to the 40-man anyway, you might as well add him and call him up when rosters expand if you think he’s ready and want to get an extended look at him. Won’t burn an option year as long as he stays up for the last couple weeks. Guys like Saggese, Graceffo, Hence, and Roby all need to be protected *this winter* anyway, so you wouldn’t have lost anything by adding them during the season like you were afraid of. Their clocks would’ve started next season regardless.

    • @MrHurriicaneLP
      @MrHurriicaneLP  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Feels early for Hence to be R5 eligible. But if I can see that ahead of time then yes I can start that clock.

    • @TeamTipidis
      @TeamTipidis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MrHurriicaneLP As a ‘20 HS draftee, Hence will need to be added this off-season. Game says “No” for R5 during the season but will switch once you advance. Fangraphs Depth Charts are a great resource to let you know what year prospects need to be added!

  • @frankchialastri7374
    @frankchialastri7374 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Future reference for Fernandez work the fastball outside to get ahead in the count then pump cutters inside all day on lefty’s and every once in a while a back door slider on the outside corner after consecutive cutters on the hands. He actually has a nice pitch repertoire to face lefties. Think of what Mariano Rivera did with one pitch being the cutter he lived in in lefty hitters hands for years

  • @HiddenPanths
    @HiddenPanths 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Drop that off-season, dad

  • @kthompson2162
    @kthompson2162 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The whole “Masyn Winn Topic” - instances like this, I wish there was an “offseason training program” to give say 2-3 players throughout your entire organization that you choose to have “extra work” done with these players. Not saying each time they just blossom into a superstar, but to see additional growth the player may be able to accomplish. Sometimes this training will help them grow 1, 2, 3 overall, and on the flip side sometimes the player will lose some potential or overall. Help you be able to see what you could expect out of the player for the next year.
    And if they would do something like this, say you pick these “2-3” players at the start of the offseason, and you get the results in the last year of the offseason.

  • @brycenhenry9905
    @brycenhenry9905 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    C-Contreras
    1B-Walker
    2B-Gorman
    SS-Donovan/Winn
    3B-Arenado (Trade @ Deadline)
    LF-$$ FREE AGENT $$
    CF-Edman (Trade @ Deadline?)
    RF-Nootbar
    DH vs R-Gorman
    DH vs L-Contreras

  • @robertwages2974
    @robertwages2974 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Gotta keep arenado and gray! Help stay competitive and still develop players. We don’t have a 3b prospect

  • @chinopinowarrior9022
    @chinopinowarrior9022 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really hoping we get another Cody Bellinger and Teoscar Hernandez-like reclamation project FA sign then trade! The Belly resurgence then trade for Miguel Vargas and Teoscar trade for Trey Sweeney were key parts of the A's rebuild. Looking forward to the offseason!

  • @javiayer9545
    @javiayer9545 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just found the channel and I’m loving the Cards series. Seeing Wong and Carpenter warms my heart and I’m excited for next season👍🏽

  • @andramada__
    @andramada__ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For pitching, I use Pulse pitching. It does affect accuracy, but at least it won't always be very late timing

  • @holdenrozof5972
    @holdenrozof5972 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    with just signing gray, i think you let him around, he’s a fantastic starter that you can throw out there, and with a couple young guys in the farm looking to come up, their potential punch with gray could be nice. if it doesn’t work out that way, you can always look to move him at the end of his deal or extend him depending on regression and results.

  • @yeet-prime
    @yeet-prime 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Look into guys like Jake Junis and Tony Gonsolin in the offseason. They play way above their C potentials in my experience
    Also agree Winn should go to AAA and Edman can be moved to SS to open up an outfield slot

  • @tncaneman
    @tncaneman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you player lock with pitchers, you can hold the right stick down and the camera will auto follow the ball on plays

  • @docmach9388
    @docmach9388 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Something the game should add is offseason growth. Doesn’t have to be a ton, but prospects do work and get better in the offseason

  • @BREAKINGMLB
    @BREAKINGMLB 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hence, Roby and Graceffo are all gonna be rule 5 eligible after the season so you are gonna have to add them to the 40 man anyway so you should have at least seen what they can do!

    • @TeamTipidis
      @TeamTipidis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This! Yes, I was thinking the exact same thing.

  • @Barista.Nathan
    @Barista.Nathan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't quite realize it when Victor Scott was up, but especially with Matt Carpenter and Kolton Wong in the lineup, this was a pathetically slow team by the end of the year. One of the consequences of being old is being slow, and this team has no gas. Certainly something to consider among the veterans to be signed in the off-season.

  • @cp3ep
    @cp3ep 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you keep Gray and Arenado, you’re going nowhere IMO. Sell high on them IF you can get young players that are ready for MLB play now.

  • @Kanester1290
    @Kanester1290 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your videos and glad I found the series. Try pressing X again when you think the pitcher should release the ball. I did not think it was a thing on classic but I've gotten good and perfect pitch releases when doing that.

  • @NightHowl86
    @NightHowl86 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would take a good look at Lane Thomas he's a free agent and could start vs lefties and be a valuable bat off the bench vs lefties plus he's a good fielder with speed for like a late game defensive replacement guy.

  • @BrewhouseSports
    @BrewhouseSports 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ep. 9 plz. Loving this.

  • @VonRye
    @VonRye 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Are you doing any individual training on these guys? I put 90% of the pitchers on per 9 training, and the hitters are either working on contact, or vision/discipline/clutch. Also, Donovan needs to be hitting 1 or 2, the guy is a hit machine.

    • @StateoftheFranchiseGaming
      @StateoftheFranchiseGaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm convinced training doesn't work or it's impact isn't differentiated from performance to know if it truly does work

    • @VonRye
      @VonRye 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@StateoftheFranchiseGaming If it was somehow marked with a different color to show it comes from training, that would be quite helpful

    • @StateoftheFranchiseGaming
      @StateoftheFranchiseGaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VonRye they used to have a 'Year to Date' or YTD for progression & regression up until I think MLB the Show 13. Training points and performance points still weren't accounted for separately but at least you can see the general direction

    • @MrHurriicaneLP
      @MrHurriicaneLP  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes I've edited all the training and will reevaluate it all again for year 2

  • @niks2392
    @niks2392 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you don't think the roster will be competitive, trading Arenado and getting a cheap one year deal/maybe a prove it deal seems way smarter. Either you get a better pick in the draft (if the player doesn't work out) or even more value for future trades

  • @deathminder9206
    @deathminder9206 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I traded for Isaac in a Rockies franchise. At first I platooned him then he grew into a 40hr guy. I nicked named him Baby Yordan.

  • @thegift40
    @thegift40 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this series

  • @tylerhayes4623
    @tylerhayes4623 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you change Librators Position from a RP to an SP he will go up to a 74/75ovr pitcher. He will still play the same just gives you a better reflection of him compared to other SP's

  • @tayy137
    @tayy137 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the videos cane. Excited for all to come

  • @romelomorales25
    @romelomorales25 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would definitely fill out rotation with some older guys on a one year deal and let young pitchers develop in minors and maybe try signing youngish infield in FA especially with a weak farm system for infield

  • @louisb9359
    @louisb9359 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great year! Maybe test hall of fame pitching for spring training

  • @kilamunis3019
    @kilamunis3019 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Use pulse pitching on hall of fame it plays better and for the most part still shows the skill set of the pitchers

  • @twism242
    @twism242 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trading Arenado before regressing isn't a bad idea. I think the Guardians would make a lot of sense for him. Unless the cpu went nuts Guardians should have posistion guys in Arias, Freeman, Valera, Noel and Manzardo. They also have a collection of younger pitchers in Curry, Allen, Cantillo and Campbell. A package of 2 or 3 could go a long way.. A bat like that in the AL central would make a big difference, it is probably the Guardians biggest weakness which is why it makes some sense for them with Bieber hitting FA iirc and having that $ to reallocate.

  • @RonnieG
    @RonnieG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't wait for the offseason next episode.

  • @Dex-tj4cl
    @Dex-tj4cl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see you pick up Dylan Crews from the Nationals if possible. Would make me really happy to see him develop in your farm system.

  • @MackeyD3
    @MackeyD3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's probably worth trying Hall of Fame again in sspring training. All-Star seems a little too easy

  • @wrtrext
    @wrtrext 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember to look for the players other teams drafted but couldn’t sign when you get to the offseason

  • @aaronsanders4122
    @aaronsanders4122 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It might be best to trade Gray for some infield prospects in order to free up some money and get maybe a guy or two that could be a part of future plans at pitcher in free agency that’s a little bit proven or just some stopgaps, but keeping Gray wouldn’t be a bad idea either he just eats up a good amount of money for a few years

  • @BBsWrldxX
    @BBsWrldxX 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you should build around Jordan Walker He’s my favorite non pitcher of build around your young BP of the future

  • @niveh115
    @niveh115 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If classic pitching is still very late on release maybe u should try the timing pitching

  • @LETSGOPENZ14
    @LETSGOPENZ14 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny that Jo is actually having a good year in real life hitting

  • @brandanlbarrios
    @brandanlbarrios 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should definitely keep Gray. Having a good veteran pitcher on the roster is important.

  • @epikfishy5814
    @epikfishy5814 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    love u cane

  • @ronfor1
    @ronfor1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi dude love your content! I just started a franchise of my own and I’m not sure about a few things.
    First what are your mode-specific settings especially about the lineups and rotation. Do you always set the lineup? Because I don’t want do mess with it for EVERY game, but on the other hand I want to change lineups for longer periods if a player is cold/hot.
    And the second question is how do you decide which game do you fully play?

    • @MrHurriicaneLP
      @MrHurriicaneLP  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can just set your preferred lineup in franchise. I mess with mine just because I like to tinker with things.
      To decide which games I'll play I try to find games that either have an importance, have a pitcher I specifically want to use, or an opponent I want to face.

  • @rodneymorin6778
    @rodneymorin6778 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, had to bring up the 2011 thing huh, cane?
    I graduated in 11. 13 years ago sounds so far away. 😂

  • @michaelplowman8674
    @michaelplowman8674 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will preface by saying I'm a Cubs fan so there is a part of me that wants you to fail horrifically.
    That out of the way, picking when, if ever, to trade Arenado is crucial. 3B is such a bereft position that letting go of a guy his caliber is rough. I would advise just seeing what you are offered for him.
    SP wise, you should have one year left with Milkolas and Matz with options on Gibson and Lynn. Cut the lesser of Gibson and Lynn and use that 5th spot either for a FA or bring up a guy.
    After that, look to improve 1 or two position player spots and never stop looking for pen help. Concentrate on guys who can do well with runners on and pitchers with low walk rates. Ks look cool, but outs are outs.

  • @frankchialastri7374
    @frankchialastri7374 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait a minute why is Donovan solano in ur bench? When Nolan got injured I get it calling up carpenter but solano has been great def would okay him ahead of carpenter

  • @Soggychiken123
    @Soggychiken123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m a little worried about Tink getting rule 5 drafted if he’s not on the 40 man

    • @VonRye
      @VonRye 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tink doesnt have to be on the 40-man until he's at least 23 yrs old

  • @samdeabler9979
    @samdeabler9979 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can’t get enough of this series

  • @arin2583
    @arin2583 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Coaching staff needs to be upgraded so these youngsters are being utilized to their fullest potential

  • @MaverickGaming4st
    @MaverickGaming4st 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see your Cardinals pick up Matt Brash or Bryan Woo in a trade with the Mariners. In real life before the season, it seemed like the Cardinals and mariners were destined to make a trade together with the mariners pitching being stellar and the cardinals having some extra bats that they could move

  • @braydenbays1962
    @braydenbays1962 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s the song at the beginning cane?

  • @KyuubiKid1121
    @KyuubiKid1121 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should make a play for ashby again. It just makes sense in my opinion

  • @joeymorini7685
    @joeymorini7685 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my opinion you shouldn’t trade the vets the cardinals are too big a market to need to tear it down, you can retool around the vets while also finding room for the young guys. St. Louis should never be bad

  • @corybye5958
    @corybye5958 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like how they showed Ohtani at a 98 and going down in development 😂😂😂

  • @kevincurry4735
    @kevincurry4735 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep Arenado think about using him as a DH and look for a young 3rd baseman in Free Agency.

  • @ReDubs_
    @ReDubs_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gray should go. lots of young pitching talent in the farm. sign a vet to a 1 year to fill his hole this off-season and look to the future. with all the young talent especially in the pitching category 2-4 years from now is the likely time the competitive window for this team will open

    • @ReDubs_
      @ReDubs_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      to add on... with the injury i don't think an Arenado trade would be realistic in the off-season. if he performs well he could be a deadline move next year but in my opinion no team would take a risk like that on an old 3B coming off and injury with a big contract

  • @KingKrakenSports
    @KingKrakenSports 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did anyone else notice the Rockies finished 52 games back?

  • @bdt4010
    @bdt4010 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you play all star the higher rated player with high k-per9 will perform better in game

  • @RobertMessenger91
    @RobertMessenger91 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trade arenado at the deadline if we havent made bug strides.
    While lesko and co. Are good, thats 3 guys at most right now that you arent even close to having contribute quite yet.
    Use these older players to rebuild that farm asap

  • @paulmd7747
    @paulmd7747 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man, you have a pretty empty farm system. TIME TO GET DRAFTING!

  • @CookieBanana
    @CookieBanana 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anyone have any good recommendations to use in this years Show?

  • @CadChamberlain
    @CadChamberlain 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cane not beating the oldhead allegations with only talking about hitters' batting average and RBI totals

  • @iTzKaiBUD
    @iTzKaiBUD 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would try to find a more productive FA to replace arenado with much less AAV

  • @deathminder9206
    @deathminder9206 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    to me if they are 32 or older you trade them. The game, especially for pitchers, starts regressing you hard around that age. There are exceptions but on the whole its not good.

  • @gavinwhalen6124
    @gavinwhalen6124 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think gray and arenado definitely should stay. can’t see the cardinals moving on from them this year

  • @deathminder9206
    @deathminder9206 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should have sold at the deadline. You knew in your heart this team was not as good as they played.

  • @JasonArnold117
    @JasonArnold117 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do not get rid of Arenado!!

  • @FTLnovaKid
    @FTLnovaKid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🔥🔥

  • @brycenhenry9905
    @brycenhenry9905 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Trade…
    Pallante for a Lefty Bullpen arm
    Carlson for INF equivalent player

    • @brycenhenry9905
      @brycenhenry9905 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      INF being a 3B with long shot Arenado replacement potential?

  • @ZackFlowers21
    @ZackFlowers21 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heandog Cy Young 😏

  • @tomlehmann306
    @tomlehmann306 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d keep arenando and Sonny gray

  • @MickeyMo600
    @MickeyMo600 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍👍👍

  • @josh58025
    @josh58025 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cane, Im using all of your settings, except im playing on Legend hitting and pitching and i just had a no hitter going into the 7th in the world series vs the Dodgers with Alek Manoah on the Blue Jays. You can totally use Legend/Legend or Hall of fame. Just take your time with hitting and pitching. You seem to rush your pitches and im not sure if you look at hot/cold zones or the batters special abilities or whatever its called. Definitely important to scout your opponent. And your batting always improves throughout your series. Id switch it to the more challenging setting. Nobody wants to watch someone play with easy settings.

  • @GibletOfFire7
    @GibletOfFire7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Juan Soto could be part of your core. 26 years old A potential 90+ overall

  • @kevincurry4735
    @kevincurry4735 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trade Adell for a minor league infield depth.

  • @travisisaacs1936
    @travisisaacs1936 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how cane sells the commitment to mediocrity. We’re not gonna go after the big name free agents just the guys that suck and can fill roles.

  • @steaglesfan5686
    @steaglesfan5686 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    trade sonny trade nolan trade mikolas

  • @dcanngieter
    @dcanngieter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im severely disappointed you didnt trade Nolan smh

  • @RonnieG
    @RonnieG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Get rid of arenado. It's best for the current and future of the team.