there is a guy that uses capoeira in mma and it is pretty brutal.He is a son of mestre Bambam, but I forgot his name. And it is really like Ramsey said - the guy have pretty solid fighting skills like bjj and shit and most of his fights he wins on the ground, however, he frequently uses capoeira moves and when they land they are devastating.I have seen him pretty much decapitate a guy with meia lua de compasso. You can search for "capoeira in MMA" or something, you will find him
“If you want to learn to swim jump into the water. On dry land no frame of mind is ever going to help you.” -Bruce Lee. You have to fight to get better at fighting, if you wanna win fights with Capoeira you have to fight with it and figure out how to apply it on a resisting opponent. Can't wait for the technique video! great video as always.
@@SicFromTheKush no, you're socially inept. You've assumed he's being ignored when there's no solid evidence for that. He's socially adept for trying a different avenue to be sure.
@@benjaminlamptey1867 no, youre socially inept for replying to a year old comment. Read before you put your 2 cents in. Btw, i was right, ramsey ignores him
I remember I did Capoeira about 14 years ago. It helped tremendously for my agility in judo and I remember my Brazilian instructor Luis being very good at BJJ often winning tournaments. It helps when you take a bit from everything. No it will not be effective on its own but has merits for flexibility, body control and other areas which can assist in learning other effective styles.
Capoeira training emulates gymnastics in many ways (and you build up great dynamic upper body pressing strength), and gymnasts are some of the most well rounded athletes on the planet (who also translate really well into martial arts, especially grappling) with great flexibility and strength. Capoeira also gives you great all around mobility (and much of modern no mobility training is derived from training methods like those in Capoeira). I would honestly recommend anyone interested in martial arts to train like this, Ido Portal, before he went completely off the wall with the culty nonsense, based quite a bit of his training in a hybrid of gymnastics, Capoeira, and hand balancing/acrobatics, and say what you want about the guy, he could move through a variety of ranges of motion very easily, and he taught other people to do the same (before he went all culty).
I got into capoeira while already doing kickboxing and a few other TMA. I definitely learned a few tricky setups for kicks and footsweeps that worked well for me so there was some carryover. We had our Capoeira professor come spar with our kickboxing students a few times and he could clown on people and do pretty well with no other training. I think the biggest benefit though was massive improvements in balance and agility; i felt like a damn ninja half the time.
Here in Brazil they teach how to use most of the capoeira moves in real fights in the circles (A.K.A rodas), by doing sparring with the students. The main problem is the fact that capoeira (so as any other older martial art) has many lineages, the two main are "Capoeira de Angola" (tradicional, which most of the people mistaken with a dance) and "Capoeira Regional" (founded in the 30's, more fighting involved, more standed up, altough still on the ground) and in the Capoeira "from" Angola there are a lot of misconceptions while the art is being taught, especially when the capoeira master makes the same mistake as the Kung Fu master and many others tradicional martial arts; Which is not sparring.
Pedro Alexandre Dillemburg yeah. it also depends on how you train. I live in las vegas and am in a capoeira group. anytime we practice or do rodas, we do train as a martial art(although we try not to hurt each other). personally, I pretend the roda is a sparring scenario using only that style. similar to chi-sao in wing chun. I've gotten popped and taken down a number of times. my batizado is coming up so I'll probably get taken down more. my instructor once landed a bençao square on my body.
Hisoka Morrow personally, I have trained in bjj. I'm not familiar with that other style. and nothing wrong with learning different styles. that what mma means or at least what it originally meant before it became fixed on specific styles. and capoeira is definitely good for conditioning.
@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 luta livre is an art that came from catch wrestling and had a big rivarly with bjj back in the days, bjj absorbed a lot techniques and stategies from luta livre especially in no gi, the no gi brazilian style of grappling untill 90s in brazil was luta livre and was the art ofpoor who couldnt afford a gi. Yes today mma is just boxing,muay thai wrestling and bjj(no gi grappling). Capoiera is beautiful art maybd is good for conditioning but is very hard to use it against a trained opponent
Just found your channel and I had to subscribe. Great voice made for radio. As for Capoeira, my good man you are spot on correct. I will say this, the way Capoeira is taught and practiced today is no where near the way it was used back old days.
Speaking for myself , "That will never work in a fight " means " I suck at that" . I am a TERRIBLE high kicker , so i assume everybody else is too. And then THWIP! There's a foot in my face. I have seen all kinds of things work in both ring fights and street fights that have low odds of working but that particular fighter knew when and how to do it. My best shot is the most cliche' , old school one in the books. A Ridge hand. I know...it shouldn't work, but i have super long arms and can bring it up like a TKD switch kick and crash right through a guard or wrap around it. Or look at Benny the Jet and that spinning back kick, or Andy Hug (R.I.P.) and that axe kick. Didn't Keith Hackney use a straight up Ranger choke against Joe Son in UFC 4? As for Capoeira , a quick search will show many examples of it working , and not working , in MMA fights. That wheel kick is crazy fast and heavy.
Hey, Ramsey. I'm Brazilian and have a certain know how of capoeira. It is a martial art disguised as a dance as you said. It was created by the slaves to fight their masters in their escape to the quilombos. They disguised it that way so nobody really knew what was going on and thought it was just a traditional African dance. In my experience with fighting, I had the pleasure (or not) of fighting two capoeiristas and I can tell you they beat the hell out of me. As any martial art you gotta train a lot, and these two particular individuals did that. They were what is called "tarimbado", which is the equivalent of being a black belt or above and, dude, when they are not "gingando", which is that dance like movement they do with their legs while fighting and go straight to kicking, you just can't tell where they hit you from. In one of these times, the guy could bow like when you're dodging a punch in boxing, but under a low kick to the thigh I landed on him AND kicked me with his heel on my head. I'm obviously not saying it's the best thing ever, but it is really effective if practiced properly. Combine with boxing and bjj or any ground fighting style and the person would probably be the next UFC champion... or at least get close. Hope I clarified somethings about it. I'm not a specialist in capoeira. I am in kung fu, not capoeira, so forgive me if there's any mistake. That's just my experience with it
I can't tell you enough how happy I am to hear you put the "afro" before "Brazilian" when you started describing it. I can tell you for real trained at least for a hot second just from that alone.
I do not practice Capoeira, but I've seen a lot of it here in Brazil. I guess that, around the world, they teach only the moves and stuff, but not the mindset. Capoeira is about "malandragem" (streetwise, bascially). You won't be able to do all the break dancing stuff in a real fight situation, but will still be able to put a front kick on an average person. Capoeira was bred in probably one of the most violent and dangerous envoriments in the world, and is seen as a legit self defense system in a place where people actually are forced into dangerous situations often. Not because of the moves, not because of the break dancing. All because of the mindset. Having streetwise, all the time.
I've been saying this for years, but many folks don't understand what is meant by "knowing how to fight", because they train drills & light sparring. Wrestling and fencing are the safest methods of learning to go all out with minimal injury.
About wrestling I have to disagree...it is just the injuries take longer to appear. Most people who do wrestling or grappling, will have spinal issues, disc protrussions and hernias...all contact sports are going to be detrimental on your health when you spar and fight...that is why many people just train for fun and avoid sparring or full contact. Nowadays it is the thing to show how effective our fighting art is by doing contact competituions, but most people think with a young person mindset, they dont think that in the long term, such practice will lead to injuries. It is a personal choice, as long as someone is informed they can think whats best for them.
Ι did muay thai for a period of time my school was under imba and i did muay boran also. Muay boran is not just a styles it has vatious styles there are 4 main style one from north thailand one from South one fro east and one from center. Muay boran has form thats can help with mt techniques there are forms for knees elbows etc, also has headbutts and a lot a grappling not ground grappling is more about clinch throws sweep and standing subs. Also muay boran is the base of muay lert rit that is a system which created from thai special forces but have also a civilian version and you can watch seminars or after a time that train in mb you can learnt it. Mb is not like mt, the philosophy is that if a strike or attack came you either dodge or block it and counter attack as soon as possible, if the distance close when you will grapple. The guard is different, and it s practice under thai music at least the forms. There is a style that called muay thai chaya that even have a little bit of ground fight. The most important is that focus how to survive no to score points and is not like mt that you need conditioning or an aged limit, mb is simple and can practice from all ages. Is difficult to find a good academy plus it will be seem boring at first. The most schools of muay boran also focus on demo and train people in mt also, ramsey is right muay boran is like taulu wushu kun fu it focus on demo, it s hard to find good mb outside thailand.
Any recommendations to schools that teach muay chaya in Thailand, my thai language skills are limited so would prefer classes with understandable english :) im also interested in Muay lertrit and the other ancient styles that is disconnected from sports or point fighting. Regards Richard
I heard from somewhere mauy boran has ground fighting as well as it has all the mauy thai striking,clinch fighting, standing grappling and dirty tactics, I would love to learn mauy boran.
I'm learning Muay Boran in my MMA class. It's very unorthodox, but it's really cool and useful cuz my classmates use it in state level fights and the opponents don't know wtf to do! What's even cooler is that exact move you were talking about in the video was taught to me recently!
@ Ramsey Dewey. You absolutely hit the nail on the head. In striking combat, the two most important things are the distance (range management), and fight rhythm ( timing). Incidentally, these two important factors are not taught at muayboran dojos. I've yet to see a muayboran teacher with experience fighting at professional level.
"anything that makes you a better athlete makes you a better fighter...but just doing athletic things....(will get your arse kicked) this should be self-evident" So well said but so many will not recognize that. Another great video, Mr. Ramsey BTW, the double fisted uppercut may have come from the weapons form. The outside wrists protects the wrists from being slashed vs modern Muay Thai with the wrist on the outside. And as for the bad techniques, my sensei still says" get your mind out of your ass. Learn how to fight and have great base and there will be no BAD techniques..."
As for someone that has practiced Capoeira for a long time, I can easily say there is way too many Capoeira mestres do not teach proper fighting application for Capoeira.
Trained pretty heavily in Muay Boran and Lethwei in my 20's. I used to do security at illegal raves and worked as a bouncer and it was useful in the real.
I was playing around with a friend once and I did a Martelo de negitiva and he was like “ What was that”? I said capoeira it’s a Brazilian martial art. That’s proof that capoeira can work if u have a good base( for me that would be boxing/BJJ). Great video as always Mr Dewey!
I’ve been training capoeira on and off for 14 years. Been stead the past two years, now I agree with what you’re saying but the more advanced you get at least in my capoeira club we use a lot of contact and take downs. My hand eye coordination has gotten so much better I feel a lot quicker and we’re taught to always keep our eyes on our opponents. Yes we use acrobatic movements but that’s to add finesse
The thing is people are judging these traditional styles in a modern context, which makes sense when your goal is to step into a MMA ring or learn the most effective techniques for a street fight, but all of these traditional styles have a historical context that everyone seems to just brush off. There's a long story behind why traditional martial arts like Capoeira was made, and why it was good for it's time. But it's like you said in the video, as long as you have the fundamentals and knowledge of how modern fighting works you can incorporate (almost) anything into your kit.
And I am very curious about the capoeira movement you want to show us. I look forward to it! (PS: sorry if my english sounds a bit weird as it might be a bit germanized :D )
A very fair review of one third of Capoeira. I fully agree that the folkloric side is very fun not really ready for prime time. I will add IMHO that it will improve reading your opponent. Tournament, contact not exhibition, is a completely different beast and not to hard to find. Comat capoeria is a house of another color my friend. It is much closer to boxing than you would expect. Be well sir, and keep doing good. Love the honesty and the humility in your work.
also, as a capoeira practitioner, and martial artist, I'd like to see a video on how you use what you learned in capoeira and added it to your style. would definitely help me out.
Cordao de ouro is a style of capoeira that mainly focuses on acrobatics and flexibility more than other capoeira styles. I found that training muay thai later it helped alot with not being stiff like others in muay thai. So.... yeah, good points Ramsey.
I've been fighting muay thai for 4 years, but i aways trained with self defense purposes. When it was about a year and some months, i started training daily with the thai instructor and the thai master. Anyway, they study and test some muay boran techniques and i could learn and test them in sparring, guess what, it works (at least for me). In general, Muay Boran has the same muay thai defences and strikes, but with some other ways of defending and atacking that were/are forgotten in muay thai. MB guard is different too, and the stance provides a lower center of gravity. Today i'm still a thai practicioner, but i try to mix what i know of MB/MT/ and Wrestling. Lately i've found good content on YT, check out Muay Boran Academy, i think you will find at least something useful.
Muay Boran is very similar to the Khmer art of Bokator, which I got to train a bit at Mr Ly Gym in Siem Reap in Cambodia. I got to record 2 videos on it, one called Kung Fu Kicks vs Bokator, which shows the animal styles of Bokator and some awesome counters to my kicks, as well as one on Kun Khmer which is to Bokator what Muay Thai is to Muay Thai. Very interesting to hear your thoughts on this Ramsey, keep up the great work, I'd like to see more videos like this one :)
Agree 200%, must learn to fight with striking and grappling. Then with the right fight IQ from at least sparring experience, much capoeira can be translated into real combative. 3 examples of probably more. 1) The Ginga whilst hand fighting leads to wrestling/grappling/throwing/kuzushi applications, 2) Ginga is a great switch hitting strategies. 3) if the Ginga is aligned so the base position is at a 45 degree diagonal as opposed to square facing an opponent, there is a boxing footwork application right there. My late brother taught me some Muay Chaiya. As for Muay Boran abstract demonstrations, and forms, especially the hand binding movement, a lot of the applicazioni are done in fights by the Golden Era fighters. It’s all there in the trap fight for clinch and elbow setups. My late brother also pulled off that said “Hanuman presents the Ring” double punch on me. He set it up by spam threatening feinting and throwing low kicks. Caught me with it clean then used it to set up a step behind sweep and dump. He would have KO me but he controlled it, so no TBI. But I certainly went for a ride. Lol. Still training to this day.
My muay thai instructor shows us some muay boran every other lesson. I learnt the double uppercut, it can be used like a push, push the guy back. Well I did it in sparring against this mouthy guy who trains "Krav Maga" as well, it was a push from the guard as you explained. Didn't see it coming and fell on his arse! He asked me what the hell that was and I said "oh I just pushed you. What, don't they teach you how to avoid that in krav maga?" Anyway, nice video. Wanting to learn to fight in the first place was why I quit Krav Maga in the first place and train muay thai now.
@@oneguy7202 yeap. I trained for nearly a year at one, then did one class at my friends club. The latter was unreal; stress drills, multiple attackers and most importantly de-esculation/evasion. It was real and legit, I wasn't ready because I was in the krav maga bubble. I carried on at my first gym for a bit longer but it got worse. When I saw certain people getting yellow belts, I realised how flawed it was. The muay thai lot used to be on after us and I was always scared of them. That was when I knew I had to join up.
Hey Ramsey. There is a nice Brazilian movie from 2009 called "Besouro" (I believe it was translated as "The Assailant" in English). It features Capoeira much like Kung Fu is portrayed in Chinese movies and it makes a lot of references to the local folklore and superstition. For those who are interested in nice choreographic movements and afro-descended culture, I highly recommend it. Cheers.
what about traditional martial arts like bajiquan (a chinese military martial art) that trains in both katas yet is rather nonflashy? I have been training in it for 3 years and have utilized many techniques in sanda fights and even some boxing matches (both of which I have done for only about a year). Is it still a matter of learning how to fight first considering how I learned the martial art first?
It’s the same thing I say with hapkido, luckily my teacher has us do mini rolling sessions and flow sparring using Muay Thai techniques in hapkido. Because he also teaches Muay Thai and BJJ.
There are a lot of historical accounts of traditional martial arts for example from Okinawa and China, where many things were originally or at least quite extensively dance or entertainment.
Great video. Know how to fight first and then you can always add your own flair to it. Very true P.S. I'm definitely interested in that caporeia techniques video
Hey coach! Love your stuff, your mindset and the way you approach things has been not only informative but inspiring. I'm a beginner Martial artist and I've been taking Jeet kune do classes for the past two months and I can already tell I wanna do martial arts for the rest of my life. Not concerned about defense or being a professional fighter(although I would like to try competing. You say martial arts is the pursuit of the truth the truth I'm after is what am I capable of.) For me it's all about the joy of motion. My question: is it too early for me to start trying more esoteric and flashy things for fun or should I keep to the basics?
Hi Ramsey, long time watcher, new to mma, although i have done bbj for about a year in total, but i also have done capoeira for 3 years when i was a kid. I am so excited you touched the topic of capoeira ( even though your portugues isnt the best XD ) but i wanted to ask you since you did taekwondo and capoeira, if you think they are fundamentaly the same? not in like rules wise, but i mean in a more technique stand point. cause i see taekowondo and all the kicks, at least the more practical ones are basically the same as capoeira, with the exception of the kicks from the ground of capoeira, and the capoeira takedowns. P.S. I think capoeira gets a bad rap for not being an actual combat art anymore, but i believe that it has some fundamentals that new fighters dont learn, like balance, momentum, speed, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY flexibility, which helps me sooo much in BJJ. this just comes for my love of capoeira, where if it wasnt for my bjj coach letting me train for free, i would of been doing capoeira, cause my cardio and flexibility is very poor. Keep doing your videos mister ramsey!
Well, I am not a fighter, but I can say for sure that all has to do about body structure - our body moves in only a certain amount of ways, making styles close to one another, but Capoeira has more "devilishness" because the "ginga" does not telegraph from where the strike comes, making almost impossible to an adversary know where a kick or a punch will come, and thanks to the more flowing nature of Capoeira, you can gather more kinetic force allowing for a strike much more powerful than one practiced by traditional styles. I hope the information is useful. Oh, I'm from Brazil, so I know a thing or two about Capoeira, even if not a practitioner, but I am a good observer.
Hey Ramsey, I just had a quick question on how to approach a certain situation. I've always loved watching MMA and when I was young I did some wrestling and Tae Kwon Do where my favorite thing to do was to put my forms and techniques to use in sparring. Life happened and I became too busy to do it. Now, it's been a few years, and I've been looking into joining some form of gym. There is a variety around me and a specific few I am interested in, but I've run into the issue of people close to me being concerned for my well being if I train and spar frequently. In specific, my significant other is scared I'll get hurt and doesn't want me to train. I can see it is a legitimate concern in her eyes and don't want her worrying, however I seek the thrill of training and sparring that I used to get. Could you offer any advice as to how I may be able to ease her mind and make her feel more comfortable with me training?
Thanks for the info, I agree with the 'learn how to fight first' before trying to incorporate extras; but couldn't Muay Boran be the vehicle that teaches you the effective fighting techniques?
Question: In one of your video you speculated in future there could be paid rookie MMA matches based on hype of Logan vs KSI. Do you think the outcome of that match might have ruined it? In short, their boxing match ended somehow in draw and they will have rematch in short amount of time. Everyone that paid for tickets didnt't see who would win unless they pay more and they even made video before the match that using money is only way to see it as they have active group striking down any video that will be posted online for free.
"Only the Strong" was a great movie. Back in the day Caporiea was used in duels often w straight razors. Caporiea works great in that context (dueling against a similarly trained fighter) but unarmed against a boxer or grappler....I won't put money on it.
If you think about the nature of the Trans Atlantic slave trade, you'll realize that many of the slaves that arrived were POW's that were sold into slavery by their enemies. Meaning they were already trained and battle tested warriors that understood the applications of what they were doing in the roda. So it makes sense that Capoeira as seen in many schools might be difficult to grasp in the hands of someone without prior fighting experience.
what's your opinion on the boyka movies and how they represent cage fighting as a whole. I personally love and admire actors like Scott Adkins and Michael jai white which inspired me to start getting into mma in the first place.
Oh, I didn’t know you did Capoeira! I thought you might have laughed off that thought I was having about using it to help counter my kick being caught, but possibly not. I honestly don’t know much about the style other than observation, but you feel it would make for a good rebound attack when someone catches your leg in a kick?
And here is a classic defence at against boca da calca/double leg take down with (we are grappling the pants and using the apparel as weapon). th-cam.com/video/aowrcvjJ5uE/w-d-xo.html It’s a long video, the double leg take down is at 13:30-14:00. Headbutts are there too later.
Thanx. Ramsey. I teached capoeira for 20 years and could support your conclusion. Most if not all "capoeira fights" I've evidenced were either dull ineffective brawl or (which is worse) obscene violating safety rules of roda by one athlet. To my earnest opinion, the closest match to capoeira fighter is Lomachenko with his sense of timing and distance in combat. Save for boxing punches his evasive style is genuine fighting capoeira, which principle goals are not hit but evade and no fancy acrobatics at all.
Coach do you have any ideas on how to spar without equipment. I wanna spar with my friends but I am afraid of injuring them and also don't have enough money to afford equipment or a membership to a gym.
Very well explained sir . A smart fighter will analyse adapt and then try it out to see if it can work in is way of fighting , lol even learning how to runn away can save a lot of trouble .
Im a new subscriber i really like what you are doing its really interesting. I personally am a Nidan in kyokushin karate and I will be competing in Shangai this november. I would have like to come to your gym but i don't know if i will have the time. Maybe if I ever comback in china.
That uppeward ellbow you are talking about works effectively. I know i've used it effectively in a fight. and that elbow is also found in our kung fu style
Muay Boran allows wrestling, lockdowns, elbows over the skull, and actually uses spin back kicks and wheel kicks, the modern muay thai removed those techniques. They also dont cover the left said of the head when kicking or elbowing, but actually letting the whole arm cover the face in a 45 degree angle. Most thais dont know muay boran, only people who have been trained by a few specific monks knows muay boran. I could name one and he's name is Kru Oh, he teaches people in phuket. Muay Boran is the krav maga of Thailand, and its not a martial art, its a self defense and combat style.
Hello guys! I am Brazilian and I'd like to talk a little about these martial arts. Well, have you all every really seen a the most martial pat of ancient capoeira? Capoeira, once the practioner take the lethal tecquines over, can be as deadle as any other form of martial art. In Brazil, we generally see sport program teams which uses only the artistical part of capoeira intead of studying and training the ancient moviments of the martial art. Believe guys, Capoeira has a lot of lethal strikes that can lead other fighters into troubles when it is used in a no-rules combar system!
Please if you can, have a look at a martial art Keysi Fighting Method. I'm particularly interested in your analysis of its defense known as "the thinking man" as they say it was built around your insticts. It has been claimed to be created from life experiences off the streets and studies of other martial arts.
superb video dude. capoeira was tamed during the 20th century and violently repressed in the 19th century. Until the 1930s it was an illegal practice in Brazil. with this, much of its more aggressive techniques were lost like the haedbuts, the practice with razors, blows that aimed to break bones like the shin bone, etc
Muay Boran, Bokator , Letwei and Muay Lao can be easily adpted to modern figh systems, what can bring good advantages to the fighter who decides to lead a combat by using its strikes.
I get the impression that capoeira used to be something different 100 years ago when I read about the earliest Gracie judo matches vs capoeira practitioners.
I have to agree with you on the capoeira part. I am a current practitioner of the style and want to adapt some of it to my style. now yes, I would never use capoeira exclusively in any fight unless 1: I trained it like that, 2: I had been learning it for yrs. remember it was developed by slaves because they couldn't learn how to fight or practice martial arts, etc. it was forbidden/illegal. but they were determined to fight for their freedom and had to figure something out. what better way than to hide in plain sight. practice by concealing behind dance like moves. and with music just adds to the disguise. also imagine a slave owner being rough with a slave. do you think he'd expect a meia lua de compasso, no. the style is designed to be illusive. sneaky. similar to the original ninja. I would also agree with saying learn other combative styles either first, or alongside capoeira so you can learn to fit the pieces if/where they can.
Hi Ramsey, I've been doing capoeira most my entire life and have never even hear of it being martialised, (except for that time Conor McGregor used a few compassos), I would love to see a video on it being used in MMA!
Anyone doubting Muay Boran should go to Tiger Muay Thai in Phucket and look for Kru Oh. The same way the Western guys respect the Muay Thai trainers, those trainers respect Kru Oh. In his career he beat something like fifty or sixty guys in old school bare knuckle matches using Muay Boran. He's a fairly small guy but his level of ability is amazing.
Now i want to watch Warrior King (The Protector in the US) there's an awesome Muay Boran vs Capoeira fight in it. Tony Jaa is one talented choreographer.
I've been seeing a lot of videos of you about capoeira (not really following the order of publication...), and as as 6 years capoeira practitioner with no real fighting experience (1 year of savate 10 years ago, picking up BJJ right now at 35), I share most of your views on that art. I think you already mentioned that capoeiristas do not call themselves "fighters" but "players" (jogadores). But I think there is a real difference between the capoeira that exported itself out of Brazil and the on that is taught inside that country (with obviously huge disparities inside that group as well, Brazil is a huge country). Capoeira had a great success in Europe, especially into middle class and kids, based on an image of "friendly sport". I've heard many people saying "What I like about capoeira is that there is no contact" (I usually answer that "What I like about talking to people is that there is no insults") But in Brazil, it's image is quite different. It has sometimes a much more violent approach, and more oriented toward fighting, including striking and grappling techniques borrowed from any martial art, including elbows or headbutts (Mestre Pastinha used to say "Capoeira is all that the mouth eats"). It's funny that you say "capoeira is good for MMA, if you already know how to fight" (I totally agree. I kind of know a few things about capoeira, and I think I would get positively smoked by any basically trained fighter), because, the way I feel many capoeira masters think (or at least, it's my perception of it) is "learn how to fight, and you will be a better capoeirista". By the way. Did you get a capoeira nickname?
What do you think of American kenpo and kajukenbo? Your thoughts. By the by i follow your videos and i like your tone and approach. It is the correct blend of rationality experience and humility. What a martial artist should be. Keep it up
Also Capoeira has elbow strikes and the most powerful kick in martial arts. Has a long name and I forgot it, but I have also seen Capoeira kicks land in MMA. Technically, Capoeira started in Angola to an extent, but was fully developed in Brasil. Therefore it is usually referred to as an Afro-Brazilian art(as you mentioned) or better yet, Angolan-brazilian, if my research is correct(you never know with the internet). But also Capoeira builds a balanced physique and makes your shoulders strong as fuck. Every Capoeira person Ive seen who is advances looks like they could do a physique or bodybuilding competition too. Plus the awesome music and culture. I plan to learn it when I get the chance, but the closest school to me is in like Chicago lol.
Sorry, Ramsey, did you say Tony Franklin? Rich Franklin was the former Middleweight champion that Anderson defeated twice actually - if i'm not mistaken.
Kristjen Štjuprić Tony Fryklund is a retired fighter who fought in many organizations including the UFC in which his KO by Silva with that elbow was a highlight reel event. Dewey has the correct name/fighter.
I have studied capoirea for some years on and off. The average school is not going to teach you to fight . But to day you have to look around for a place that will show you how to used the different movements in a real fight
I think Muay Boran focuses on singular definitive crippling moves because in group combat(war) there is no feeling out period or rounds or rules or referee,... take one guy out and move on to the next, also by the time you are engaging the enemy "bare knuckled" you have lost your weapon and things have already gone wrong that day.
Hello Ramsey, This is not relevant to the topic in this video. I have problem in doing exercise, only about 25 minutes and then my muscles hurt like hell and this also affect in the next day which I hurt even more than the aftermath. And I cannot really exercise more while I really want to exercise more and even everyday but this hurting muscles not allow me to do so, would you help me with this ?
My group was a real deal old school combative martial arts school but obviously for my Meastre he taught the hippies and kids dance and play but the fighting part was for only those who wanted to learn how to fight and won’t cry and sue if we get hurt & oh boy we got hurt.
Other than being untested, there is another issue with martial arts with "forms." The way that karate and other martial arts with "forms" are taught these days is backwards. The old way of teaching involved years of practicing basic punches, kicks, blocks, and grappling techniques before learning their forms. Now, the form is one of the first things that a beginner learns. As a result, many practitioners practice, what the Japanese call, "igata," instead of "kata." "Igata," literally means, "dead kata." Modern practitioners, on the whole don't understand the basics well enough for these long forms to make sense. For that reason, this story about the Spider doesn't surprise me. No one would question the idea that Silva deeply understands the basics, in addition to having impressive (to say the least) ring experience. He is well-positioned to understand complicated moves like that elbow.
Now this is proper combat mentality.there are more thing to consider than black and white concepts such as this just does or doesnt work.its more about HOW you train.some thing that ppl who dont train right cant understand.
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I would love to see a technique video on capoeira and the possible uses in an MMA fight. That would be a fantastic video!
there is a guy that uses capoeira in mma and it is pretty brutal.He is a son of mestre Bambam, but I forgot his name. And it is really like Ramsey said - the guy have pretty solid fighting skills like bjj and shit and most of his fights he wins on the ground, however, he frequently uses capoeira moves and when they land they are devastating.I have seen him pretty much decapitate a guy with meia lua de compasso. You can search for "capoeira in MMA" or something, you will find him
There aren't any uses in an MMA fight
Marcus Aurelio and Ossoduro are decent guys who use capoeira in mma.
marcos aurelio was a beast
"There aren't any uses in an MMA fight" Are you sure about that? th-cam.com/video/ghPZdV23uoM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/fYr94Usdd0g/w-d-xo.html
“If you want to learn to swim jump into the water. On dry land no frame of mind is ever going to help you.” -Bruce Lee. You have to fight to get better at fighting, if you wanna win fights with Capoeira you have to fight with it and figure out how to apply it on a resisting opponent. Can't wait for the technique video! great video as always.
True shit
pandacommanda1 Bruce Lee was possibly a good swimmer. never practiced real fighting though, either on land or in the water.
@@siddified your a clown
@@bk-wi3wo yeah and you lost.
@@siddified sure.if you say so lol👍
Hey Ramsey! Didn't manage to connect with you through e-mail. Let me know if there was a problem or if you would like to postpone our talk.
Martial Arts Journey would be great to listen a podcast with both of you . Your channel is great.
This is not how you contact people. If be ignored you, hop off. Youre socially inept
All my TH-camrs know each other. It's a plague.
@@SicFromTheKush no, you're socially inept. You've assumed he's being ignored when there's no solid evidence for that. He's socially adept for trying a different avenue to be sure.
@@benjaminlamptey1867 no, youre socially inept for replying to a year old comment. Read before you put your 2 cents in. Btw, i was right, ramsey ignores him
I remember I did Capoeira about 14 years ago. It helped tremendously for my agility in judo and I remember my Brazilian instructor Luis being very good at BJJ often winning tournaments. It helps when you take a bit from everything. No it will not be effective on its own but has merits for flexibility, body control and other areas which can assist in learning other effective styles.
Capoeira training emulates gymnastics in many ways (and you build up great dynamic upper body pressing strength), and gymnasts are some of the most well rounded athletes on the planet (who also translate really well into martial arts, especially grappling) with great flexibility and strength. Capoeira also gives you great all around mobility (and much of modern no mobility training is derived from training methods like those in Capoeira).
I would honestly recommend anyone interested in martial arts to train like this, Ido Portal, before he went completely off the wall with the culty nonsense, based quite a bit of his training in a hybrid of gymnastics, Capoeira, and hand balancing/acrobatics, and say what you want about the guy, he could move through a variety of ranges of motion very easily, and he taught other people to do the same (before he went all culty).
I does have elbow strikes too I have seen
I got into capoeira while already doing kickboxing and a few other TMA. I definitely learned a few tricky setups for kicks and footsweeps that worked well for me so there was some carryover. We had our Capoeira professor come spar with our kickboxing students a few times and he could clown on people and do pretty well with no other training. I think the biggest benefit though was massive improvements in balance and agility; i felt like a damn ninja half the time.
Here in Brazil they teach how to use most of the capoeira moves in real fights in the circles (A.K.A rodas), by doing sparring with the students. The main problem is the fact that capoeira (so as any other older martial art) has many lineages, the two main are "Capoeira de Angola" (tradicional, which most of the people mistaken with a dance) and "Capoeira Regional" (founded in the 30's, more fighting involved, more standed up, altough still on the ground) and in the Capoeira "from" Angola there are a lot of misconceptions while the art is being taught, especially when the capoeira master makes the same mistake as the Kung Fu master and many others tradicional martial arts; Which is not sparring.
Pedro Alexandre Dillemburg yeah. it also depends on how you train. I live in las vegas and am in a capoeira group. anytime we practice or do rodas, we do train as a martial art(although we try not to hurt each other). personally, I pretend the roda is a sparring scenario using only that style. similar to chi-sao in wing chun. I've gotten popped and taken down a number of times. my batizado is coming up so I'll probably get taken down more. my instructor once landed a bençao square on my body.
Why pratice capoeira there you can learn luta livre or bjj.
Hisoka Morrow personally, I have trained in bjj. I'm not familiar with that other style. and nothing wrong with learning different styles. that what mma means or at least what it originally meant before it became fixed on specific styles. and capoeira is definitely good for conditioning.
@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 luta livre is an art that came from catch wrestling and had a big rivarly with bjj back in the days, bjj absorbed a lot techniques and stategies from luta livre especially in no gi, the no gi brazilian style of grappling untill 90s in brazil was luta livre and was the art ofpoor who couldnt afford a gi. Yes today mma is just boxing,muay thai wrestling and bjj(no gi grappling). Capoiera is beautiful art maybd is good for conditioning but is very hard to use it against a trained opponent
Hisoka Morrow luta livre were ufc 1 like bouts in brazil, i think you're mistaking it for mexican lucha libre, which is pretty much pro wrestling.
Just found your channel and I had to subscribe. Great voice made for radio.
As for Capoeira, my good man you are spot on correct. I will say this, the way Capoeira is taught and practiced today is no where near the way it was used back old days.
Speaking for myself , "That will never work in a fight " means " I suck at that" . I am a TERRIBLE high kicker , so i assume everybody else is too. And then THWIP! There's a foot in my face. I have seen all kinds of things work in both ring fights and street fights that have low odds of working but that particular fighter knew when and how to do it. My best shot is the most cliche' , old school one in the books. A Ridge hand. I know...it shouldn't work, but i have super long arms and can bring it up like a TKD switch kick and crash right through a guard or wrap around it. Or look at Benny the Jet and that spinning back kick, or Andy Hug (R.I.P.) and that axe kick. Didn't Keith Hackney use a straight up Ranger choke against Joe Son in UFC 4? As for Capoeira , a quick search will show many examples of it working , and not working , in MMA fights. That wheel kick is crazy fast and heavy.
Hey, Ramsey. I'm Brazilian and have a certain know how of capoeira. It is a martial art disguised as a dance as you said. It was created by the slaves to fight their masters in their escape to the quilombos. They disguised it that way so nobody really knew what was going on and thought it was just a traditional African dance.
In my experience with fighting, I had the pleasure (or not) of fighting two capoeiristas and I can tell you they beat the hell out of me. As any martial art you gotta train a lot, and these two particular individuals did that. They were what is called "tarimbado", which is the equivalent of being a black belt or above and, dude, when they are not "gingando", which is that dance like movement they do with their legs while fighting and go straight to kicking, you just can't tell where they hit you from.
In one of these times, the guy could bow like when you're dodging a punch in boxing, but under a low kick to the thigh I landed on him AND kicked me with his heel on my head. I'm obviously not saying it's the best thing ever, but it is really effective if practiced properly. Combine with boxing and bjj or any ground fighting style and the person would probably be the next UFC champion... or at least get close.
Hope I clarified somethings about it. I'm not a specialist in capoeira. I am in kung fu, not capoeira, so forgive me if there's any mistake. That's just my experience with it
I can't tell you enough how happy I am to hear you put the "afro" before "Brazilian" when you started describing it. I can tell you for real trained at least for a hot second just from that alone.
I do not practice Capoeira, but I've seen a lot of it here in Brazil. I guess that, around the world, they teach only the moves and stuff, but not the mindset. Capoeira is about "malandragem" (streetwise, bascially). You won't be able to do all the break dancing stuff in a real fight situation, but will still be able to put a front kick on an average person. Capoeira was bred in probably one of the most violent and dangerous envoriments in the world, and is seen as a legit self defense system in a place where people actually are forced into dangerous situations often. Not because of the moves, not because of the break dancing. All because of the mindset. Having streetwise, all the time.
So glad you got an XLR audio system. Sounds so crisp and clean
You should be a radio host. Or a professional MMA commentator. You have the know-how, the experience, and the voice.
Look up Elizeu Zaleski Dos Santos if you want to see a Capoeira practitioner fighting in MMA. He's awesome.
Elizeu Zaleski Capoeira dos Santos. And he will be the first to admit it is not an effective martial art
I've been saying this for years, but many folks don't understand what is meant by "knowing how to fight", because they train drills & light sparring. Wrestling and fencing are the safest methods of learning to go all out with minimal injury.
About wrestling I have to disagree...it is just the injuries take longer to appear. Most people who do wrestling or grappling, will have spinal issues, disc protrussions and hernias...all contact sports are going to be detrimental on your health when you spar and fight...that is why many people just train for fun and avoid sparring or full contact. Nowadays it is the thing to show how effective our fighting art is by doing contact competituions, but most people think with a young person mindset, they dont think that in the long term, such practice will lead to injuries. It is a personal choice, as long as someone is informed they can think whats best for them.
Ι did muay thai for a period of time my school was under imba and i did muay boran also. Muay boran is not just a styles it has vatious styles there are 4 main style one from north thailand one from South one fro east and one from center. Muay boran has form thats can help with mt techniques there are forms for knees elbows etc, also has headbutts and a lot a grappling not ground grappling is more about clinch throws sweep and standing subs. Also muay boran is the base of muay lert rit that is a system which created from thai special forces but have also a civilian version and you can watch seminars or after a time that train in mb you can learnt it. Mb is not like mt, the philosophy is that if a strike or attack came you either dodge or block it and counter attack as soon as possible, if the distance close when you will grapple. The guard is different, and it s practice under thai music at least the forms. There is a style that called muay thai chaya that even have a little bit of ground fight. The most important is that focus how to survive no to score points and is not like mt that you need conditioning or an aged limit, mb is simple and can practice from all ages. Is difficult to find a good academy plus it will be seem boring at first. The most schools of muay boran also focus on demo and train people in mt also, ramsey is right muay boran is like taulu wushu kun fu it focus on demo, it s hard to find good mb outside thailand.
Any recommendations to schools that teach muay chaya in Thailand, my thai language skills are limited so would prefer classes with understandable english :) im also interested in Muay lertrit and the other ancient styles that is disconnected from sports or point fighting. Regards Richard
I heard from somewhere mauy boran has ground fighting as well as it has all the mauy thai striking,clinch fighting, standing grappling and dirty tactics, I would love to learn mauy boran.
I'm learning Muay Boran in my MMA class. It's very unorthodox, but it's really cool and useful cuz my classmates use it in state level fights and the opponents don't know wtf to do! What's even cooler is that exact move you were talking about in the video was taught to me recently!
@ Ramsey Dewey. You absolutely hit the nail on the head. In striking combat, the two most important things are the distance (range management), and fight rhythm ( timing). Incidentally, these two important factors are not taught at muayboran dojos. I've yet to see a muayboran teacher with experience fighting at professional level.
I am a native portuguese speaker, the portuguese I have heard you speak was always cool man! Boa boa!
"anything that makes you a better athlete makes you a better fighter...but just doing athletic things....(will get your arse kicked) this should be self-evident"
So well said but so many will not recognize that.
Another great video, Mr. Ramsey
BTW, the double fisted uppercut may have come from the weapons form. The outside wrists protects the wrists from being slashed vs modern Muay Thai with the wrist on the outside.
And as for the bad techniques, my sensei still says" get your mind out of your ass. Learn how to fight and have great base and there will be no BAD techniques..."
9:00 Silva sure takes his pillow-fighting seriously!
I found your channel a couple of hours ago and I find it very interesting and professional, great job coach :)
So basically - learn basics and sparr with moving resisting oponent.
As for someone that has practiced Capoeira for a long time, I can easily say there is way too many Capoeira mestres do not teach proper fighting application for Capoeira.
Trained pretty heavily in Muay Boran and Lethwei in my 20's. I used to do security at illegal raves and worked as a bouncer and it was useful in the real.
I was playing around with a friend once and I did a Martelo de negitiva and he was like “ What was that”? I said capoeira it’s a Brazilian martial art. That’s proof that capoeira can work if u have a good base( for me that would be boxing/BJJ). Great video as always Mr Dewey!
I’ve been training capoeira on and off for 14 years. Been stead the past two years, now I agree with what you’re saying but the more advanced you get at least in my capoeira club we use a lot of contact and take downs. My hand eye coordination has gotten so much better I feel a lot quicker and we’re taught to always keep our eyes on our opponents. Yes we use acrobatic movements but that’s to add finesse
I really enjoyed this video and the story! Thank you Ramsey!
'I know that worked in Karate Kid 3 but that wasn't real. That was a movie, my friends'
What!? NASA propaganda!
is that a 10th planet bash/reference?
Sufyan Ahmad not directly 10th planet, but it's the kind of thing Bravo would say as long as he can find a youtuber that says it
The thing is people are judging these traditional styles in a modern context, which makes sense when your goal is to step into a MMA ring or learn the most effective techniques for a street fight, but all of these traditional styles have a historical context that everyone seems to just brush off. There's a long story behind why traditional martial arts like Capoeira was made, and why it was good for it's time.
But it's like you said in the video, as long as you have the fundamentals and knowledge of how modern fighting works you can incorporate (almost) anything into your kit.
Thank you very much for your thougts on those two topics! I didn't expect that you would answer those questions so fast :)
And I am very curious about the capoeira movement you want to show us. I look forward to it! (PS: sorry if my english sounds a bit weird as it might be a bit germanized :D )
A very fair review of one third of Capoeira. I fully agree that the folkloric side is very fun not really ready for prime time. I will add IMHO that it will improve reading your opponent. Tournament, contact not exhibition, is a completely different beast and not to hard to find. Comat capoeria is a house of another color my friend. It is much closer to boxing than you would expect. Be well sir, and keep doing good. Love the honesty and the humility in your work.
also, as a capoeira practitioner, and martial artist, I'd like to see a video on how you use what you learned in capoeira and added it to your style. would definitely help me out.
Love your video's. Got a new subscriber and your Portuguese sounds good enough🥊
The videos are great the portuguese sounds awful ^^
As a Brazilian guy, I must say that your Portuguese pronunciation did not cringed me at all
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Mr. Dewey, what are your thoughts on Lethwei? I'm currently training to fight in it.
Cordao de ouro is a style of capoeira that mainly focuses on acrobatics and flexibility more than other capoeira styles. I found that training muay thai later it helped alot with not being stiff like others in muay thai. So.... yeah, good points Ramsey.
I've been fighting muay thai for 4 years, but i aways trained with self defense purposes. When it was about a year and some months, i started training daily with the thai instructor and the thai master. Anyway, they study and test some muay boran techniques and i could learn and test them in sparring, guess what, it works (at least for me). In general, Muay Boran has the same muay thai defences and strikes, but with some other ways of defending and atacking that were/are forgotten in muay thai.
MB guard is different too, and the stance provides a lower center of gravity.
Today i'm still a thai practicioner, but i try to mix what i know of MB/MT/ and Wrestling.
Lately i've found good content on YT, check out Muay Boran Academy, i think you will find at least something useful.
Muay Boran is very similar to the Khmer art of Bokator, which I got to train a bit at Mr Ly Gym in Siem Reap in Cambodia. I got to record 2 videos on it, one called Kung Fu Kicks vs Bokator, which shows the animal styles of Bokator and some awesome counters to my kicks, as well as one on Kun Khmer which is to Bokator what Muay Thai is to Muay Thai. Very interesting to hear your thoughts on this Ramsey, keep up the great work, I'd like to see more videos like this one :)
It s like bando and leathwei.
The first time I was introduced to copoeira was the movie Blood sport and Only the Strong with Marc Dacascas from the John Wick 3 movie.
Agree 200%, must learn to fight with striking and grappling. Then with the right fight IQ from at least sparring experience, much capoeira can be translated into real combative. 3 examples of probably more. 1) The Ginga whilst hand fighting leads to wrestling/grappling/throwing/kuzushi applications, 2) Ginga is a great switch hitting strategies. 3) if the Ginga is aligned so the base position is at a 45 degree diagonal as opposed to square facing an opponent, there is a boxing footwork application right there. My late brother taught me some Muay Chaiya. As for Muay Boran abstract demonstrations, and forms, especially the hand binding movement, a lot of the applicazioni are done in fights by the Golden Era fighters. It’s all there in the trap fight for clinch and elbow setups. My late brother also pulled off that said “Hanuman presents the Ring” double punch on me. He set it up by spam threatening feinting and throwing low kicks. Caught me with it clean then used it to set up a step behind sweep and dump. He would have KO me but he controlled it, so no TBI. But I certainly went for a ride. Lol. Still training to this day.
My muay thai instructor shows us some muay boran every other lesson. I learnt the double uppercut, it can be used like a push, push the guy back. Well I did it in sparring against this mouthy guy who trains "Krav Maga" as well, it was a push from the guard as you explained. Didn't see it coming and fell on his arse! He asked me what the hell that was and I said "oh I just pushed you. What, don't they teach you how to avoid that in krav maga?"
Anyway, nice video. Wanting to learn to fight in the first place was why I quit Krav Maga in the first place and train muay thai now.
Most km schools are just bullshit
@@oneguy7202 yeap. I trained for nearly a year at one, then did one class at my friends club. The latter was unreal; stress drills, multiple attackers and most importantly de-esculation/evasion. It was real and legit, I wasn't ready because I was in the krav maga bubble. I carried on at my first gym for a bit longer but it got worse. When I saw certain people getting yellow belts, I realised how flawed it was. The muay thai lot used to be on after us and I was always scared of them. That was when I knew I had to join up.
Hey Ramsey. There is a nice Brazilian movie from 2009 called "Besouro" (I believe it was translated as "The Assailant" in English). It features Capoeira much like Kung Fu is portrayed in Chinese movies and it makes a lot of references to the local folklore and superstition. For those who are interested in nice choreographic movements and afro-descended culture, I highly recommend it. Cheers.
good movie
what about traditional martial arts like bajiquan (a chinese military martial art) that trains in both katas yet is rather nonflashy? I have been training in it for 3 years and have utilized many techniques in sanda fights and even some boxing matches (both of which I have done for only about a year). Is it still a matter of learning how to fight first considering how I learned the martial art first?
It’s the same thing I say with hapkido, luckily my teacher has us do mini rolling sessions and flow sparring using Muay Thai techniques in hapkido. Because he also teaches Muay Thai and BJJ.
There are a lot of historical accounts of traditional martial arts for example from Okinawa and China, where many things were originally or at least quite extensively dance or entertainment.
Great video. Know how to fight first and then you can always add your own flair to it. Very true
P.S. I'm definitely interested in that caporeia techniques video
Hey coach! Love your stuff, your mindset and the way you approach things has been not only informative but inspiring. I'm a beginner Martial artist and I've been taking Jeet kune do classes for the past two months and I can already tell I wanna do martial arts for the rest of my life. Not concerned about defense or being a professional fighter(although I would like to try competing. You say martial arts is the pursuit of the truth the truth I'm after is what am I capable of.) For me it's all about the joy of motion. My question: is it too early for me to start trying more esoteric and flashy things for fun or should I keep to the basics?
Go for it!
*Didn't knew the story behind Anderson's Upward Elbow*
Got my interest and searched it.
It just proves that if it works, it isnt stupid.
Hi Ramsey, long time watcher, new to mma, although i have done bbj for about a year in total, but i also have done capoeira for 3 years when i was a kid. I am so excited you touched the topic of capoeira ( even though your portugues isnt the best XD ) but i wanted to ask you since you did taekwondo and capoeira, if you think they are fundamentaly the same? not in like rules wise, but i mean in a more technique stand point. cause i see taekowondo and all the kicks, at least the more practical ones are basically the same as capoeira, with the exception of the kicks from the ground of capoeira, and the capoeira takedowns.
P.S. I think capoeira gets a bad rap for not being an actual combat art anymore, but i believe that it has some fundamentals that new fighters dont learn, like balance, momentum, speed, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY flexibility, which helps me sooo much in BJJ. this just comes for my love of capoeira, where if it wasnt for my bjj coach letting me train for free, i would of been doing capoeira, cause my cardio and flexibility is very poor.
Keep doing your videos mister ramsey!
Well, I am not a fighter, but I can say for sure that all has to do about body structure - our body moves in only a certain amount of ways, making styles close to one another, but Capoeira has more "devilishness" because the "ginga" does not telegraph from where the strike comes, making almost impossible to an adversary know where a kick or a punch will come, and thanks to the more flowing nature of Capoeira, you can gather more kinetic force allowing for a strike much more powerful than one practiced by traditional styles.
I hope the information is useful.
Oh, I'm from Brazil, so I know a thing or two about Capoeira, even if not a practitioner, but I am a good observer.
Muay Boran Chaiya, I’d suggest the guy who asked the question check out Pedro Solana.
You mean his MuaySangha style? I am still not shure what to think about it...
Hey Ramsey,
I just had a quick question on how to approach a certain situation. I've always loved watching MMA and when I was young I did some wrestling and Tae Kwon Do where my favorite thing to do was to put my forms and techniques to use in sparring. Life happened and I became too busy to do it. Now, it's been a few years, and I've been looking into joining some form of gym. There is a variety around me and a specific few I am interested in, but I've run into the issue of people close to me being concerned for my well being if I train and spar frequently. In specific, my significant other is scared I'll get hurt and doesn't want me to train. I can see it is a legitimate concern in her eyes and don't want her worrying, however I seek the thrill of training and sparring that I used to get. Could you offer any advice as to how I may be able to ease her mind and make her feel more comfortable with me training?
Yes tutorial. Oh my goodness such a good idea. Mayilu encompason 💃
Thanks for the info, I agree with the 'learn how to fight first' before trying to incorporate extras; but couldn't Muay Boran be the vehicle that teaches you the effective fighting techniques?
Might seem like an irrelevant question, but on another note, what kind of music do you like? Artists and genras, that kind of thing.
The movie "Only The Strong" had a really cool depiction of capoeira :) not sure how accurate it is but made it look really cool :)
Question: In one of your video you speculated in future there could be paid rookie MMA matches based on hype of Logan vs KSI. Do you think the outcome of that match might have ruined it?
In short, their boxing match ended somehow in draw and they will have rematch in short amount of time. Everyone that paid for tickets didnt't see who would win unless they pay more and they even made video before the match that using money is only way to see it as they have active group striking down any video that will be posted online for free.
"Only the Strong" was a great movie. Back in the day Caporiea was used in duels often w straight razors. Caporiea works great in that context (dueling against a similarly trained fighter) but unarmed against a boxer or grappler....I won't put money on it.
If you think about the nature of the Trans Atlantic slave trade, you'll realize that many of the slaves that arrived were POW's that were sold into slavery by their enemies. Meaning they were already trained and battle tested warriors that understood the applications of what they were doing in the roda. So it makes sense that Capoeira as seen in many schools might be difficult to grasp in the hands of someone without prior fighting experience.
what's your opinion on the boyka movies and how they represent cage fighting as a whole. I personally love and admire actors like Scott Adkins and Michael jai white which inspired me to start getting into mma in the first place.
Oh, I didn’t know you did Capoeira! I thought you might have laughed off that thought I was having about using it to help counter my kick being caught, but possibly not. I honestly don’t know much about the style other than observation, but you feel it would make for a good rebound attack when someone catches your leg in a kick?
And here is a classic defence at against boca da calca/double leg take down with (we are grappling the pants and using the apparel as weapon).
th-cam.com/video/aowrcvjJ5uE/w-d-xo.html
It’s a long video, the double leg take down is at 13:30-14:00. Headbutts are there too later.
Thanx. Ramsey. I teached capoeira for 20 years and could support your conclusion. Most if not all "capoeira fights" I've evidenced were either dull ineffective brawl or (which is worse) obscene violating safety rules of roda by one athlet. To my earnest opinion, the closest match to capoeira fighter is Lomachenko with his sense of timing and distance in combat. Save for boxing punches his evasive style is genuine fighting capoeira, which principle goals are not hit but evade and no fancy acrobatics at all.
Been training capoeira for over 20 years and I end most of my fights with headbutt to the teeth, most effective technique of capoeira ever
Coach do you have any ideas on how to spar without equipment. I wanna spar with my friends but I am afraid of injuring them and also don't have enough money to afford equipment or a membership to a gym.
God Bless You! 100% Awesome Video! Stay Strong Friend
doesn't a double uppercut have less leverage? how do you torque it?
Very well explained sir . A smart fighter will analyse adapt and then try it out to see if it can work in is way of fighting , lol even learning how to runn away can save a lot of trouble .
Im a new subscriber i really like what you are doing its really interesting.
I personally am a Nidan in kyokushin karate and I will be competing in Shangai this november.
I would have like to come to your gym but i don't know if i will have the time.
Maybe if I ever comback in china.
That uppeward ellbow you are talking about works effectively. I know i've used it effectively in a fight. and that elbow is also found in our kung fu style
Thx so much man :) im so proud of my teacher he puts a lot of emphasis on the fighting aspect ^^ but with nothing evil behind it xd Cheers
Muay Boran allows wrestling, lockdowns, elbows over the skull, and actually uses spin back kicks and wheel kicks, the modern muay thai removed those techniques. They also dont cover the left said of the head when kicking or elbowing, but actually letting the whole arm cover the face in a 45 degree angle. Most thais dont know muay boran, only people who have been trained by a few specific monks knows muay boran. I could name one and he's name is Kru Oh, he teaches people in phuket. Muay Boran is the krav maga of Thailand, and its not a martial art, its a self defense and combat style.
Hello guys!
I am Brazilian and I'd like to talk a little about these martial arts.
Well, have you all every really seen a the most martial pat of ancient capoeira?
Capoeira, once the practioner take the lethal tecquines over, can be as deadle as any other form of martial art.
In Brazil, we generally see sport program teams which uses only the artistical part of capoeira intead of studying and training the ancient moviments of the martial art.
Believe guys, Capoeira has a lot of lethal strikes that can lead other fighters into troubles when it is used in a no-rules combar system!
Please if you can, have a look at a martial art Keysi Fighting Method. I'm particularly interested in your analysis of its defense known as "the thinking man" as they say it was built around your insticts. It has been claimed to be created from life experiences off the streets and studies of other martial arts.
superb video dude. capoeira was tamed during the 20th century and violently repressed in the 19th century. Until the 1930s it was an illegal practice in Brazil. with this, much of its more aggressive techniques were lost like the haedbuts, the practice with razors, blows that aimed to break bones like the shin bone, etc
You can find these in capoeira Angola schools.
Muay Boran, Bokator , Letwei and Muay Lao can be easily adpted to modern figh systems, what can bring good advantages to the fighter who decides to lead a combat by using its strikes.
I get the impression that capoeira used to be something different 100 years ago when I read about the earliest Gracie judo matches vs capoeira practitioners.
I have to agree with you on the capoeira part. I am a current practitioner of the style and want to adapt some of it to my style. now yes, I would never use capoeira exclusively in any fight unless 1: I trained it like that, 2: I had been learning it for yrs.
remember it was developed by slaves because they couldn't learn how to fight or practice martial arts, etc. it was forbidden/illegal. but they were determined to fight for their freedom and had to figure something out. what better way than to hide in plain sight. practice by concealing behind dance like moves. and with music just adds to the disguise. also imagine a slave owner being rough with a slave. do you think he'd expect a meia lua de compasso, no. the style is designed to be illusive. sneaky. similar to the original ninja. I would also agree with saying learn other combative styles either first, or alongside capoeira so you can learn to fit the pieces if/where they can.
Hi Ramsey, I've been doing capoeira most my entire life and have never even hear of it being martialised, (except for that time Conor McGregor used a few compassos), I would love to see a video on it being used in MMA!
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Anyone doubting Muay Boran should go to Tiger Muay Thai in Phucket and look for Kru Oh. The same way the Western guys respect the Muay Thai trainers, those trainers respect Kru Oh. In his career he beat something like fifty or sixty guys in old school bare knuckle matches using Muay Boran. He's a fairly small guy but his level of ability is amazing.
Now i want to watch Warrior King (The Protector in the US) there's an awesome Muay Boran vs Capoeira fight in it. Tony Jaa is one talented choreographer.
You mean ong bak?
Nah Ong-Bak was about a stolen Buddha statue, in Warrior King he was hunting down poachers who stole his elephant.
I've been seeing a lot of videos of you about capoeira (not really following the order of publication...), and as as 6 years capoeira practitioner with no real fighting experience (1 year of savate 10 years ago, picking up BJJ right now at 35), I share most of your views on that art. I think you already mentioned that capoeiristas do not call themselves "fighters" but "players" (jogadores). But I think there is a real difference between the capoeira that exported itself out of Brazil and the on that is taught inside that country (with obviously huge disparities inside that group as well, Brazil is a huge country).
Capoeira had a great success in Europe, especially into middle class and kids, based on an image of "friendly sport". I've heard many people saying "What I like about capoeira is that there is no contact" (I usually answer that "What I like about talking to people is that there is no insults")
But in Brazil, it's image is quite different. It has sometimes a much more violent approach, and more oriented toward fighting, including striking and grappling techniques borrowed from any martial art, including elbows or headbutts (Mestre Pastinha used to say "Capoeira is all that the mouth eats").
It's funny that you say "capoeira is good for MMA, if you already know how to fight" (I totally agree. I kind of know a few things about capoeira, and I think I would get positively smoked by any basically trained fighter), because, the way I feel many capoeira masters think (or at least, it's my perception of it) is "learn how to fight, and you will be a better capoeirista".
By the way. Did you get a capoeira nickname?
What do you think of American kenpo and kajukenbo? Your thoughts.
By the by i follow your videos and i like your tone and approach. It is the correct blend of rationality experience and humility. What a martial artist should be. Keep it up
Also Capoeira has elbow strikes and the most powerful kick in martial arts. Has a long name and I forgot it, but I have also seen Capoeira kicks land in MMA. Technically, Capoeira started in Angola to an extent, but was fully developed in Brasil. Therefore it is usually referred to as an Afro-Brazilian art(as you mentioned) or better yet, Angolan-brazilian, if my research is correct(you never know with the internet). But also Capoeira builds a balanced physique and makes your shoulders strong as fuck. Every Capoeira person Ive seen who is advances looks like they could do a physique or bodybuilding competition too. Plus the awesome music and culture. I plan to learn it when I get the chance, but the closest school to me is in like Chicago lol.
I love your voice man 😀
Sorry, Ramsey, did you say Tony Franklin? Rich Franklin was the former Middleweight champion that Anderson defeated twice actually - if i'm not mistaken.
Kristjen Štjuprić Tony Fryklund is a retired fighter who fought in many organizations including the UFC in which his KO by Silva with that elbow was a highlight reel event. Dewey has the correct name/fighter.
As a Brazilian I can say your accent is really cute.
Had to watch the clip to be sure it was the elbow I was thinking of. I can't believe Anderson's coach thought that elbow was useless.
I have studied capoirea for some years on and off. The average school is not going to teach you to fight . But to day you have to look around for a place that will show you how to used the different movements in a real fight
I think Muay Boran focuses on singular definitive crippling moves because in group combat(war) there is no feeling out period or rounds or rules or referee,... take one guy out and move on to the next, also by the time you are engaging the enemy "bare knuckled" you have lost your weapon and things have already gone wrong that day.
Ramsey, you are pronouncing in Spanish some of the capoeira techinique names. But in general you did well.
I just went to see that fight of Silva, and yes, it was straight out of Ong Bak
Hello Ramsey, This is not relevant to the topic in this video. I have problem in doing exercise, only about 25 minutes and then my muscles hurt like hell and this also affect in the next day which I hurt even more than the aftermath. And I cannot really exercise more while I really want to exercise more and even everyday but this hurting muscles not allow me to do so, would you help me with this ?
What are you doing for exercise?
mostly swing wooden sword in the set and basic kick from taekwondo added inbetween to rest and balance my exercise.
Best wisdom for application . _
This video answered my previous question too I suppose. And I guess the answer was pretty obvious, practice and test it with an opponent. Haha
Don't know how to fight yet, but I'm getting there.👊👊
My group was a real deal old school combative martial arts school but obviously for my Meastre he taught the hippies and kids dance and play but the fighting part was for only those who wanted to learn how to fight and won’t cry and sue if we get hurt & oh boy we got hurt.
Other than being untested, there is another issue with martial arts with "forms." The way that karate and other martial arts with "forms" are taught these days is backwards. The old way of teaching involved years of practicing basic punches, kicks, blocks, and grappling techniques before learning their forms. Now, the form is one of the first things that a beginner learns. As a result, many practitioners practice, what the Japanese call, "igata," instead of "kata." "Igata," literally means, "dead kata." Modern practitioners, on the whole don't understand the basics well enough for these long forms to make sense.
For that reason, this story about the Spider doesn't surprise me. No one would question the idea that Silva deeply understands the basics, in addition to having impressive (to say the least) ring experience. He is well-positioned to understand complicated moves like that elbow.
Great video coach !! Your Portuguese accent wasn't that bad xD.
Now this is proper combat mentality.there are more thing to consider than black and white concepts such as this just does or doesnt work.its more about HOW you train.some thing that ppl who dont train right cant understand.